Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Haha! is making me work on this day of rest :-) Please use // as separators between the columns! hopefully the format works this time! # // Categories and groups // %A // %B 1 // Full Database of 19922 // 1.6916 // 4.3670 2 // Mars in one of the 6 houses // 1.6037 // 4.5522 3 // Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans // 1.7304 // 8.9854* 4 // Saturn in dosha stanas // 1.8614 // 4.3968 B3 (one with the *) is interesting! , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dada, > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting'. > > A = widowed > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > %A %B > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > RR_, > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > Unfortunately,the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dear Rohini Ji, Very thought provoking inferences from 12th house that impacts the chart/zodiac.prominent results attributable the great and misleading planets but different in nature and behaviour. the culpability of 12th might be beyond once guess,though v some time attibute negative tendencies. One of the cold and slow moving planet responsible for reverries,groping into past,feeling guilty and not letting to take pride of experiences felt through saturn and the brisk and fast moving,forceful and eager to do perform inner planet also belonging to the nature malefic but bold .egostic and able to hang on to sense of achievement seen in Mars have their degrees of share as seen from your indices Serves as useful in our understanding and assessment for matching horoscopes for compatibility and serves a lot to understand the aspects of living together in an Institution of Marraige. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:39 PM  Dada, I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . A = widowed B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible %A %B 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 B3 (one with the *) is interesting! RR_, , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > % widowed = 1.69159% > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Haan Dada! > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 There is another way at looking towards and understanding the Grammar or Astrology and its several parts of speech! Someday, I will share. Happy New Year! Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > Very thought provoking inferences from 12th house that impacts the chart/zodiac.prominent results attributable the great and misleading planets but different in nature and behaviour. > the culpability of 12th might be beyond once guess,though v some time attibute negative tendencies. > One of the cold and slow moving planet responsible for reverries,groping into past,feeling guilty and not letting to take pride of experiences felt through saturn and the brisk and fast moving,forceful and eager to do perform inner planet also belonging to the nature malefic but bold .egostic and able to hang on to sense of achievement seen in Mars have their degrees of share as seen from your indices > Serves as useful in our understanding and assessment for matching horoscopes for compatibility and serves a lot to understand the aspects of living together in an Institution of Marraige. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 12/31/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:39 PM > > >  > > > > Dada, > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > A = widowed > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > %A %B > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > RR_, > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dear Rohini ji, Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid?  regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-)  Dada, I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . A = widowed B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible %A %B 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 B3 (one with the *) is interesting! RR_, , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > % widowed = 1.69159% > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Haan Dada! > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Shenoy jee, It is free. Astrodienst has it. HNY RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? >  > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > >  > Dada, > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > A = widowed > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > %A %B > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > RR_, > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Dear Rohini ji, I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. Can you post the link, you have used? regards  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-)  Shenoy jee, It is free. Astrodienst has it. HNY RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? >  > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > >  > Dada, > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > A = widowed > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > %A %B > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > RR_, > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Shenoy jee, Astrodienst, from what I read, has acquired Rodden database and were going to offer it free to all. If they have not made it available, you will have to write to them directly, through any contact etc asking about the database and the DBMS that they have sole rights to for a couple of years now. I do not know any further than that they are sole owners and distributors for that. RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > > I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. > > Can you post the link, you have used? > > regards >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > >  > Shenoy jee, > > It is free. Astrodienst has it. > > HNY > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? > >  > > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > >  > > Dada, > > > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > > > A = widowed > > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > > > %A %B > > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > > RR_, > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Shenoy jee, try this link which I visited just now, to check things out for you: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Astro-Databank:Registration One of the items stated that they are still working on the utility to replace earlier DBMS which is now out of distribution. You may wish to write to them to get updates. The database, though, is freely available. You must have gone to some other site by mistake. Use this link and navigate a bit around the site. It is a huge site with pages which are 'work in progress', so you might need to drive around a bit. Good luck, RR_, , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Shenoy jee, > > Astrodienst, from what I read, has acquired Rodden database and were going to offer it free to all. If they have not made it available, you will have to write to them directly, through any contact etc asking about the database and the DBMS that they have sole rights to for a couple of years now. I do not know any further than that they are sole owners and distributors for that. > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. > > > > Can you post the link, you have used? > > > > regards > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM > > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > >  > > Shenoy jee, > > > > It is free. Astrodienst has it. > > > > HNY > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? > > >  > > > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > > > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > > > >  > > > Dada, > > > > > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > > > > > A = widowed > > > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > > > > > %A %B > > > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > > > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > > > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > > > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > > > > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dear Friends,, I was frequently visiting earlier the astrodeintist,it has lot of technical detials.I need to revive as the astrodeintist now has given base for effects of kuja dosha. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:51 AM  Dear Rohini ji, I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. Can you post the link, you have used? regards  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-)  Shenoy jee, It is free. Astrodienst has it. HNY RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Rohini ji, > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? >  > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > >  > Dada, > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > A = widowed > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > %A %B > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > RR_, > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Or perhaps taken away the 'base', eh Dada_bhai? ;-( If Mangal was doshi, why would it be called Mangal and not Amangal? ;-) RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friends,, > I was frequently visiting earlier the astrodeintist,it has lot of technical detials.I need to revive as the astrodeintist now has given base for effects of kuja dosha. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:51 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. > > Can you post the link, you have used? > > regards >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > >  > Shenoy jee, > > It is free. Astrodienst has it. > > HNY > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? > >  > > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > >  > > Dada, > > > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > > > A = widowed > > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > > > %A %B > > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > > RR_, > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dada, I always consider Kuja Maharaj as shubh denewale but for our conventional totewale,it is other wise. The sources of knowledge make huge difference.Mangal gives energy and kick.happiness when there it is manga and in my chart with rahu can I think as amangal(?) Thank God lagna always helps and people to explore to keep mangal predominantly good. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sat, 1/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:09 PM  Or perhaps taken away the 'base', eh Dada_bhai? ;-( If Mangal was doshi, why would it be called Mangal and not Amangal? ;-) RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Friends,, > I was frequently visiting earlier the astrodeintist, it has lot of technical detials.I need to revive as the astrodeintist now has given base for effects of kuja dosha. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:51 AM > > >  > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. > > Can you post the link, you have used? > > regards >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > >  > Shenoy jee, > > It is free. Astrodienst has it. > > HNY > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? > >  > > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > >  > > Dada, > > > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > > > A = widowed > > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > > > %A %B > > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > > RR_, > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it is sported with total confidence as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad atha hai grahon > > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar hai > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 In Varanasi, Dada, there is a sacred temple dedicated to Sankatmochan Hanumaan ji! It has a ruddy appearance to it, just like Mangal dev has and a few places on this planet of ours where ENERGY SPOTS exist! It is also a temple which for some reason attracts a lot of Rhesus monkeys who have a very ruddy Mangal perspective! MANGAL-DEV comes ALIVE there -- one has to be there to sense that, even if it is one pilgrimage that made sense upon the return and the second return! (I will try to write more elaborately about it someday, don't agonize!) -- Though it felt sad when I heard years later that Sankat_Mochan Jee was bombed! Just after the initial wrenching of heart stopped -- the soul spoke: Which other God in this Universe could absorb a bomb-blast other than the SON of Anjani and Surya? Energy and Fire and Activity and Dynamism and so on, we talk about but do we ever sit back to understand? Why Hanuman was called the son of sun? When Father is too powerful and HOT, sometimes the son becomes the messenger! Mercury or Mars? Different mythologies, I suppose! Hope I am not confusing you! Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dada, > I always consider Kuja Maharaj as shubh denewale but for our conventional totewale,it is other wise. > The sources of knowledge make huge difference.Mangal gives energy and kick.happiness when there it is manga and in my chart with rahu can I think as amangal(?) > Thank God lagna always helps and people to explore to keep mangal predominantly good. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:09 PM > > >  > > > > Or perhaps taken away the 'base', eh Dada_bhai? ;-( > > If Mangal was doshi, why would it be called Mangal and not Amangal? ;-) > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends,, > > I was frequently visiting earlier the astrodeintist, it has lot of technical detials.I need to revive as the astrodeintist now has given base for effects of kuja dosha. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> > > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > > Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:51 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. > > > > Can you post the link, you have used? > > > > regards > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM > > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > >  > > Shenoy jee, > > > > It is free. Astrodienst has it. > > > > HNY > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? > > >  > > > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > > > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > > > >  > > > Dada, > > > > > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > > > > > A = widowed > > > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > > > > > %A %B > > > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > > > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > > > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > > > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > > > > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it isÃÆ'‚ sported with total confidenceÃÆ'‚ as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad athaÃÆ'‚ hai grahonÃÆ'‚ > > > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar haiÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Dada, Fantastic reference to Sankatomochan mandir in Benares.In fact my Guru(Rita Chaubey) and my friend Vinod Mishra make visit to this mandir with all precautions to save themselves from Rhesus tribe. Couple of my visits was ofcourse b4 bombing and also couple of visits later..In my later visits I realised Kalbhairav Ji is also important as I have sani in my 8th also in watery sign and to get rid of all my failures that confirms " Man proposes God disposes " in my case.As you know my rasi lord 2nd from lagna is capricorn,a obvious link to Mangal as the house for exaltation too. Also i visited one more temple near to Simla known for Rhesus dominance is also adorned with the Hanuman Ji(Bal brahmachari) and where I find kanyaye a dwindling gender rush for getting set right their prospects of Vivah. In my entire span of service strangely i was alwys found to in close proximity to Rhesus known as " vanaras " as evn in a year back I was serving in Trikuta Hills of Himalays. No confusion at all as Lord Shri Ram trusted Maruti known as Hanumanji and conveyes(son of sun,mercury)the location of Sita Mata in Lanka. Had Sun was not responsible for sons and even existence of Mnagal and mercury would have remained in legends only.Today prominence of Mars and Mercury(for a vaishnavite like me) is in great proportion to be taken care and respected.The cosmic effects have pronounced impact on life of all living beings. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 1/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:32 AM  In Varanasi, Dada, there is a sacred temple dedicated to Sankatmochan Hanumaan ji! It has a ruddy appearance to it, just like Mangal dev has and a few places on this planet of ours where ENERGY SPOTS exist! It is also a temple which for some reason attracts a lot of Rhesus monkeys who have a very ruddy Mangal perspective! MANGAL-DEV comes ALIVE there -- one has to be there to sense that, even if it is one pilgrimage that made sense upon the return and the second return! (I will try to write more elaborately about it someday, don't agonize!) -- Though it felt sad when I heard years later that Sankat_Mochan Jee was bombed! Just after the initial wrenching of heart stopped -- the soul spoke: Which other God in this Universe could absorb a bomb-blast other than the SON of Anjani and Surya? Energy and Fire and Activity and Dynamism and so on, we talk about but do we ever sit back to understand? Why Hanuman was called the son of sun? When Father is too powerful and HOT, sometimes the son becomes the messenger! Mercury or Mars? Different mythologies, I suppose! Hope I am not confusing you! Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dada, > I always consider Kuja Maharaj as shubh denewale but for our conventional totewale,it is other wise. > The sources of knowledge make huge difference.Mangal gives energy and kick.happiness when there it is manga and in my chart with rahu can I think as amangal(?) > Thank God lagna always helps and people to explore to keep mangal predominantly good. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:09 PM > > >  > > > > Or perhaps taken away the 'base', eh Dada_bhai? ;-( > > If Mangal was doshi, why would it be called Mangal and not Amangal? ;-) > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends,, > > I was frequently visiting earlier the astrodeintist, it has lot of technical detials.I need to revive as the astrodeintist now has given base for effects of kuja dosha. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Sat, 1/2/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ ...> > > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > > Saturday, January 2, 2010, 11:51 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > I tried that site but can't seem to find the particular utility you seem to use. Further it directs to wiki project. > > > > Can you post the link, you have used? > > > > regards > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Sat, January 2, 2010 6:51:29 PM > > Re: SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > >  > > Shenoy jee, > > > > It is free. Astrodienst has it. > > > > HNY > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > Where can I get this data base? Is it free or paid? > > >  > > > regardsA.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, January 1, 2010 7:09:49 AM > > > SERENDIPITY CAN ONLY HELP ;-) > > > > > >  > > > Dada, > > > > > > I decided to extend the 'search' a bit and am glad I did, because an interesting finding emerged due to an error in the earlier filters used! I had accidentally left out the 12th house from the filter for the doshas! The following results include the 12th house and just adding that one house position brought about a big change in the %ages! Apparently the 12th house is telling us something 'interesting' . > > > > > > A = widowed > > > B = cluster of individuals who have been >15 years married or Very Happy or compatible > > > > > > %A %B > > > 1 Full Database of 19922 1.6916 4.3670 > > > 2 Mars in one of the 6 houses 1.6037 4.5522 > > > 3 Mars or Saturn in dosha sthans 1.7304 8.9854* > > > 4 Saturn in dosha stanas 1.8614 4.3968 > > > > > > B3 (one with the *) is interesting! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a database with 19922 Rodden high quality birthdata (=/>A) > > > > % widowed = 1.69159% > > > > % widowed in mangalik charts = 1.57881% > > > > % widowed in charts with mars and saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.72216% > > > > % widowed in charts with saturn in mangalik sthanas = 1.81884% > > > > > > > > People can draw their own conclusions! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Haan Dada! > > > > > Jyotish when thought over as a way to educate, never credence was seen.When some body pops up " Mangal Dosh " by way of his jyotish appraoch,it isÃÆ'‚ sported with total confidenceÃÆ'‚ as if to win T20s with Mars provided belief. > > > > > Unfortunately, the internet approach are all half baked attempts to justify for good and bad of the planets. > > > > > How ever v can not but salute Bahdur Shah ji and Ghalib ji,as the life they potrayed was to over come miseries and to postive ways of the beautiful zindagi. > > > > > let me too in the following lines convey views of Mangal Dosh as percieved > > > > > Arzoo jab ubharte hai bhool jate hai smaskar > > > > > Intezar jab karne ka hota hai yaad athaÃÆ'‚ hai grahonÃÆ'‚ > > > > > doodhna shuru karte hai jyotshon ke liye > > > > > Yeh mera parampara aur yeh mera vichar haiÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚Â\  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > Re: should manglik girl avoid getting married? > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 11:14 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishnan dada, > > > > > > > > > > I have been 'following-up' a few so called mangal dosh matches (Why do Jyotishis turn a wonderful relationship like marriage into a SPORT, a competition - A cricket MATCH? UPON which NATIONAL PRIDES seem to rely? Wise and ancient nations and CULTURES! Even those that remind us: > > > > > > > > > > " Umray Daraz maang kay laye thay Chaar Din > > > > > Do Arzoo main kat gaye Do intezaar main! " > > > > > > > > > > The famous lines from Bahadur Shah Zaffar, the last Moghul/Persian ruler of India, if I recall my history lessons! > > > > > > > > > > Some day hopefully I will get all the information and permissions to write about those, or not -- but it is not as easy and simple as is proferred on Internet or in books and article! So glibly by those who have nary a clue, let alone the experience!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Certainly not .Girls having mars in 8th(from lagna?) probably have a good and prosperous married life.it all dpends on how venus relates to Mars as well as Moon.Such questions need proper dat b4 any body could opine.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.