conjunction of jupiter and satrun- Graha Yuddha is classical 7/1

January 6, 2010

Utkal,Lalit

well u must go back to classics all over

the word Graha Yoddha is not fiction for that matter even vakra is a similar one

more a apparent motion/ entity than real but has a place due to the eleptical

orbit of the grahas in diff planes in the solar system they appear to be so but

that means it is moving in a angle that is longer to see from the earth and

appears stationary / retrograde / direct /close in conjuction-planetry war etc

we r not kids to get confused with the movie star wars at least and surely not

the rishies

pl don't mislead the general public as all important writers, comentrators worth

their salt have said, used and worked on these lines

and for a person talking of fictioous crreature giving u sermons, wisdom? it is

not part of the subject, it is a individual experience and can't be classified

or debated in any already exisiting scales. u can discuss such wisdom in a diff

level, grp that is on spiritual healling or pysche readings whatever u can call

it

all discussions, expansions within the establised, accepted principles of Vedic

jyotishya in the wide spread diversity of this great land can be shared no area

is absolute it is having multile views but still not from from overall essence

as we know

this one seems non vedic jyotish at least.

I reqauest members like

RRji, krishna ji, suresh babu ji, pt arjun ji Nikit, anup m, gopu ji,

mrityunjaya tripati, PKT if he is still around etc to add their views on the

same

best wishes

..- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

Tue, January 5, 2010 1:27:04 PM

Re: conjunction of jupiter ans satrun

pls. understand there is no planetary war that happens in jyotish, it was an

initial effort done towards understanding impact of conjunction of multiple

planets.

Sat and Jup are two diff celestial bodies with different karakatwas, sat can

never be jup or vice versa.

I wd give u charts of ppl having this yoga along with details of their life.

Regards,

Utkal.

, Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Dear kunal ji

> Thank you for putting light on this unique yoga and enriching my knowledge.

> Also the real effect of this yoga is seen if there is actual conjunction like

when both grahas are less than

> 14 degree apart.Again if they are even less than 5 degree than planetary war

takes place in which the planet

> having less degree wons, This really destroys the aspects of house in which

grhas are present and also those

> which they signify.

> Presence of this yoga in 7th house gives severe gas and joint problems like

arthritisÃ‚ etc.Ã‚

> One thing which i can say surely these persons get bad result only if they

demand so many things from lord

> but on contrary if they just pray and leave everything to lord then saturn

becomes dasa of jupiter and the best

> thing automatically occurs.

> YOURS SINCERELY

> Archita

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Utkarsh <utkarsh_vaggbhav@ ...>

>

> Mon, January 4, 2010 3:41:54 PM

> Re: conjunction of jupiter ans satrun

>

> Ã‚

> Dear Archita

>

> I have Sa+Ju in Kanya in 11th house, and both are retro, so in a way effect

10th house too! i have a friend who has Sa+Ju in Kanya in 7th house! Another

person, I know, has Sa+Ju in Sagittarius in 10th house.

>

> One thing I can say is that this yoga has the capability to paint the whole

horoscope in its colour(often a monochrome). It gives you the " tedency to

philosophise " , however, whether you profess real philosophy or not, will depend

upon other factors in the chart! Like, if you have a strong Dhimanth yoga, or

other such yogas, this " Brahma Yoga " will make your personality enigmatic and

very powerful, otherwise, it will only produce a dull person who thinks he knows

all, and tries to portray the same image...This yoga effects person's

self-perception a lot, he likes to see himself in a certain way and wants others

to see him like that! And hence, people with this yoga can be easily spotted as

traditional or religious, with philosophic approach, often trying to make sense

of righteousness!

>

> But I'll repeat, a tendency to philosophise doesn't, alone, produce a

philosopher! And so is with " Brahma Yoga " .

>

> This yoga is really bad perhaps in only one bhava i.e. 7th house.

>

> In an average person's life, natal & gochariya Ju & Sa correlate once a

lifetime, in his 60th year(the retirement age)...this brings sudden change in

life either for good, or bad, altering the course of life! In nature, this yoga

may bring catastrophes like earthquakes etc. Now in case of people with Brahma

Yoga, this event(relation of natal & gochariya Ju+Sa) happens at regular

intervals, so it can be easily said that their life is far from a smooth ride!

Whether it propells forward or pulls down, depends on individual case!

>

> I have this yoga, and I worship Krishna too, but that too in his Gopal Sundari

form(wearing sari). Needless to say, for me, spirituality, the essence of life

is encapsulated in just one word, " Ma " !

>

> Your sincerely,

> Kunal Nath.

>

January 6, 2010

Dear Prashant ji & others,

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There is no doubt that Griha Yudha happens when two tara grihas(5 planets)Â come

in close conjunction and it is surprising that the so called experienced

astrologers make such statements. This subject has been dealt in this forum

sometime back. Luminaries (Sun & Moon) do not participate in Griya Yudha. This

is because they are the King & Queen of the zodiac. This is also specified in

the classics. In spite of clarifying many times, I find that several

â€œastrologersâ€ in these forums still base their analysis on the wrong notion

that all planets participate in griha yudha. Further, though conjuction could be

found in many charts, Griha Yudha is seen in very few charts as it depends on

speed of planet and hence the time it takes to cross each other.

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There is also a wrong notion that whatever planetary position a chart indicates

relates 100% to the native alone. This is more prevalent in the starter group of

astrology. And off course considering the effects, even if they are able to

identify them specifically, from a few charts is like the story of 4 blind

persons touching the various organs of an elephant and declaring that elephant

is huge pillar etc (the one who touched its leg).

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A chart as a whole, nakshtra, tithy, karana, nithya yoga, Kalahora, lagna &

scores of other Â Â factors work in unison to form the nature, attitude, traits

of native. At the same time some of these natures gets triggered only at

appropriate time / period determined by yet another set of conditions namely

transits & dasa periods.

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Hence, The effect of griha yudha â€“ one planet is the winner while the other is

a looser; their effects becomes prevalent only at those appropriate times and

need not be through out the life of the native. Even in their own dasa / bhukti,

the said effects need not become prominent as this effect is a temp phenomenon

and as the planet has a natural course, the native may also recoup and lead a

normal life after a temp setback. However, this depends on the strength of

lagna, it lord, sun, moon, and other factors that determine the foundation

strength of the chart. It is only important when factors relating to those

planets are effective in any situation.

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The effects of planets & their combinations, whether direct in the rasi or from

Kendra trikonas depends on their gunas also part from several other factors. The

indications provided in the classics are only a quick reference and need not

exist completely in any individual. They have deep meaning as well.

Unfortunately, English language lacks the capability to justify the vastness of

Sanskrit language. For ex: Varaha Mihira says â€œghatakrith daaso annnakaroâ€.

The English translation would mean â€œone who makes earthen pots, servant and a

cookâ€. However, these words has much wider meaning & implications in real

situations. In order to understand one will have to go deep into the language.

â€œdaasoâ€ does not merely imply that the native would be servant. One has to

understand that Saturn â€“ dharma raja is with Jupiter sarveshwara karaka. The

combination implies that in the upasana, the native will accept a attitude of

servitude â€“ a daasa (servant)

of the deity. Saturn is a planet which is pitch back outside and pure white

inside â€“ right & wrong, dharma & adharma, yin & yang. The capability to

distinguish between them. That is Saturn is called yamaraja â€“ dharma raja. And

when Jupiter conjoins with it, the dharmic traits increases provided it is

supported in navamsa, dwadasamsa, trimsamsa & drekana as well. A person could

very be dharmic nature but also could use it in wrong way and yet it need not

translate into fame etc. If planets like mars or rahu conjoins (aspects) them,

it could also take a different shape.

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So one can see that the combination provided numerous permutation & combination

of effects & shapes that a living being is Â

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So if anyone is very much serious to learn astrology, get a copy of original

Sanskrit works, a Sanskrit â€“ English dictionary preferably written by M.Monier

Williams and atleast Bhagavat geetha. It is not an easy task and may take a few

years. It is not out of foolishness that traditionally it takes atleast 5- 10

years to learn, use & become capable of advising others with astrology.

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Â A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy