Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Sir ji; I am also not using contrast for describing rules of ad-campaigns. Regards Kulbir Bains. rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Thu, 14 Jan 2010 3:33 am Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! Praajee, Please read what I posted and take a minute to absorb and understand! I was using an analogy! Does that surprise you?? RR_, , Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains wrote: > > > Sir RR ji. > //So now we all must pay for the keys to start the car? > depends upon one's status. > if one deserves even top brands give cars / not only keys for driving/ as an honour. > Again depends whether it is honour for the person or endorsement of company's product. > > > > Regards > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, 14 Jan 2010 3:08 am > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > So now we all must pay for the keys to start the car? > > Only on Seinfeld on comedy channel!! > > RR_, > > , Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir RR ji; > > > >  " Supply always comes on the heels of demand.†Robert Collier > > > > payment should always be in one's coin. > > > > I would like to put as NEEYUT NU MURAAD. intentions govern the outcome. > > > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Thu, 14 Jan 2010 2:36 am > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > I was watching a silly Seinfeld comedy show earlier and Jerry was in a car showroom to buy a car and his neurotic friends were doing their usual song and dance around the theme! > > > > In the end, Elaine broke up with her new boyfriend and grumpy as he was when he returned to add up Jerry's invoice he kept adding all kinds of items and in the end said, Keys -- 200Dollars! > > > > " KEYS! " , Jerry Exclaimed! > > > > " How are you going to start the car? " , the ex-boyfriend of Elaine asked! > > > > What a demand, indeed!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu ji; Since your goodself seems to have penchant for > > > throwing challenges. > > > > > > I request you to lead by example, A gentleman should always practice > > > what he preaches. > > > > > > So why don't you take head on the challenges as listed below. There is a > > > hefty prize money. If not interested in money, the like of you should > > > attempt at least for sake of honour. > > > > > > 1. The Science and Rationalists' Association of India (Bengali > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language> : Bharatiya Bigyan O > > > Yuktibadi Samiti) is predominantly a rationalist > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalist> group based in Kolkata > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkata> , India > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India> The group offers a prize of Rs. > > > 25,00,000 > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_for_evidence_of_the_paranor\ > > > mal> to anyone who can make accurate astrological > > > predictions/calculations under proper observing conditions > > > > > > 2. THE HINDU > > > > > > Online edition of India's National Newspaper > > > Thursday, May 14, 2009Rationalists' challenge to astrologers on poll > > > result > > > > > > Staff Reporter > > > > > > VIJAYAWADA: Rationalists and humanists have challenged astrologers and > > > other purveyors of superstition to predict election result accurately > > > and win a cash prize of Rs. 1 crore. > > > > > > Taking strong exception to the manner in which politicians had been > > > virtually prostrating before the `so-called' astrologers and > > > soothsayers in an attempt to find out their political fortunes, members > > > of the Indian chapter of the International Humanist and Ethical Union > > > (IHEU), Manava Vikas Vedika, Indian Radical Humanist Association, > > > Hyderabad Rationalist Forum and its affiliated organisations like Jana > > > Vignana Vedika and the Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations > > > have together thrown the gauntlet at the much-sought after astrologers > > > who have been in great demand in this election season. > > > > > > Seeking to disagree with the contention that astrology was also a > > > science, they wondered as to why astrologers aired diverse predictions > > > about the poll outcome. > > > > > > The questionnaire prepared by them include queries on the next Prime > > > Minister of the country, the combination of parties that would form the > > > government at the Centre, number of seats to be won by the major > > > political parties, next Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh and name of the > > > astrologer who would win this contest. > > > > > > Last date > > > > > > The last date for sending entries is May 15. > > > > > > Entries must be sent by registered post or courier in a sealed cover and > > > accompanied by a demand draft for Rs. 10,000 drawn in favour of Jana > > > Vignana Vedika. > > > > > > Printer friendly page > > > <http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=20090514588005\ > > > 00.htm & date=2009/05/14/ & prd=th & > > > > Send this article to Friends by E-Mail > > > <http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/pgemail.pl?date=2009/05/14/ & \ > > > prd=th & > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " > > > <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others, > > > > > > > > I wonder! where were these " scholars " when cats & dogs take over > > > the " group " ? > > > > > > > > One come with " worlds greatest Astrologer " and another calls for jihad > > > on classics. > > > > > > > > You want serious Astrology? > > > > > > > > Here is an excercise for you. > > > > > > > > Here are two set of Birth data. > > > > Set 1 > > > > A) 25-Sep-1974; 2:22PM, Cochin > > > > B) 14-Nov-1969; 1:45AM, Cochin > > > > B) 07-Oct-1972; 12:30AM, Cochin > > > > > > > > Set 2 > > > > A) 13-Oct-1969; 11:12 AM, Cochin > > > > B) 15-Dec-1961; 12:30 PM, Cochin > > > > C) 01-May-1971; 5:15 PM, Cochin > > > > D) 03-Feb-1968; 1:15 PM, Cochin > > > > E) 01-APr-1962; 4:05 PM, Cochin > > > > > > > > In the two sets, Fathers & Mothers are different > > > > > > > > A) Identify in each set the factor that indetifies that Father of > > > these children are same and Mother is Same. > > > > B) Identify the gender of the Natives. > > > > > > > > I don't want any links or long articles. But simple 1,2 3 > > > identification. > > > > > > > > A word to the Moderator: Prevention is better than Cure. > > > > (we have heard enough of the democratic principles). > > > > > > > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not > > > rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of > > > course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show > > > your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom > > > you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > regards > > santhosh > > > >  > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > >  > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > With thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > >  > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear All, First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > surya baba!! > > Lilly > > <%40>, > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > <%40>, > Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > regards > > > santhosh > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > <%40> > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > >  > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear, If Mangal In neecha rasi should triger such earthquakes, Here is list of periods Mangal was in Karkata Along with Sun Sign from 1990 to 2020. From To Sun Mars 16-May-91 15-Jun-91 Vrish Kark 16-Jun-91 15-Jul-91 Mithuna Kark 4-Nov-92 15-Nov-92 Thula Kark 16-Nov-92 28-Nov-92 Vrish Kark 29-Nov-92 30-Nov-92 Vrish Kark-R 1-Dec-92 15-Dec-92 Vrish Kark-R 16-Dec-92 22-Dec-92 Dhanu Kark-R 15-Apr-93 14-May-93 Mesh Kark 15-May-93 12-Jun-93 Vrish Kark 24-Sep-94 17-Oct-94 Kanya Kark 18-Oct-94 16-Nov-94 Thula Kark 17-Nov-94 22-Nov-94 Vrischik Kark 10-Feb-95 12-Feb-95 Makara Kark-R 13-Feb-95 14-Mar-95 Kumbh Kark-R 15-Mar-95 24-Mar-95 Meena Kark-R 25-Mar-95 14-Apr-95 Meena Kark 15-Apr-95 10-May-95 Mesh Kark 31-Aug-96 16-Sep-96 Simh Kark 17-Sep-96 16-Oct-96 Kanya Kark 17-Oct-96 19-Oct-96 Thula Kark 12-Aug-98 16-Aug-98 Karkat Kark 17-Aug-98 16-Sep-98 Simh Kark 17-Sep-98 27-Sep-98 Kanya Kark 23-Jul-00 16-Aug-00 Karkat Kark 17-Aug-00 7-Sep-00 Simh Kark 5-Jul-02 16-Jul-02 Mithun Kark 17-Jul-02 16-Aug-02 Karkat Kark 17-Aug-02 19-Aug-02 Simh Kark 15-Jun-04 16-Jul-04 Mithun Kark 17-Jul-04 31-Jul-04 Karkat Kark 25-May-06 15-Jun-06 Vrish Kark 16-Jun-06 12-Jul-06 Mithun Kark 29-Apr-08 14-May-08 Mesh Kark 15-May-08 14-Jun-08 Vrish Kark 15-Jun-08 21-Jun-08 Mithun Kark 6-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 Kanya Kark 18-Oct-09 16-Nov-09 Thula Kark 17-Nov-09 15-Dec-09 Vrischik Kark 16-Dec-09 20-Dec-09 Dhanu Kark 21-Dec-09 14-Jan-10 Dhanu Kark-R 15-Jan-10 12-Feb-10 Makara Kark-R 13-Feb-10 10-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark-R 11-Mar-10 14-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark 15-Mar-10 13-Apr-10 Meena Kark 14-Apr-10 14-May-10 Mesh Kark 15-May-10 26-May-10 Vrish Kark 10-Sep-11 17-Sep-11 Simh Kark 18-Sep-11 17-Oct-11 Kanya Kark 18-Oct-11 30-Oct-11 Thula Kark 19-Aug-13 16-Sep-13 Simh Kark 17-Sep-13 5-Oct-13 Kanya Kark 31-Jul-15 17-Aug-15 Karkat Kark 18-Aug-15 15-Sep-15 Simh Kark 12-Jul-17 16-Jul-17 Mithun Kark 17-Jul-17 16-Aug-17 Karkat Kark 17-Aug-17 27-Aug-17 Simh Kark 23-Jun-19 16-Jul-19 Mithun Kark 17-Jul-19 8-Aug-19 Karkat Kark The above includes periods when Mars was retrograde also. You may be surprised to find how many of earthquakes (of this strength and mass human destruction) have occured during these periods Keep in mind that earthquakes do occur practicaly now & then at any part of the world from very mild to slightly noticable (may be around 4 on ritcher scale) that do not do much harm.   A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil Thu, January 14, 2010 9:28:09 PM Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! Dear All, First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > surya baba!! > > Lilly > > <%40>, > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > <%40>, > Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > celebrating. then you wont need toﾂ complaint. it is a day you pray to god > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > regards > > > santhosh > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > <%40> > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > ﾂ > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > With thanks & regards,ﾃ㤠> > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I know there are a few comedians on this channel who normally stay in their caves, and come out to eat peanuts and to bask in the creative warmth of PAPA SUN when one hears their nimble squeaks, but no no the keys are still free, as long as you pay for the CAR-MA ;-) Rohiniranjan , Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains wrote: > > > Sir RR ji. > //So now we all must pay for the keys to start the car? > depends upon one's status. > if one deserves even top brands give cars / not only keys for driving/ as an honour. > Again depends whether it is honour for the person or endorsement of company's product. > > > > Regards > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, 14 Jan 2010 3:08 am > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > So now we all must pay for the keys to start the car? > > Only on Seinfeld on comedy channel!! > > RR_, > > , Kulbir Bains <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir RR ji; > > > >  " Supply always comes on the heels of demand.†Robert Collier > > > > payment should always be in one's coin. > > > > I would like to put as NEEYUT NU MURAAD. intentions govern the outcome. > > > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Thu, 14 Jan 2010 2:36 am > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > I was watching a silly Seinfeld comedy show earlier and Jerry was in a car showroom to buy a car and his neurotic friends were doing their usual song and dance around the theme! > > > > In the end, Elaine broke up with her new boyfriend and grumpy as he was when he returned to add up Jerry's invoice he kept adding all kinds of items and in the end said, Keys -- 200Dollars! > > > > " KEYS! " , Jerry Exclaimed! > > > > " How are you going to start the car? " , the ex-boyfriend of Elaine asked! > > > > What a demand, indeed!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " kulbir " <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu ji; Since your goodself seems to have penchant for > > > throwing challenges. > > > > > > I request you to lead by example, A gentleman should always practice > > > what he preaches. > > > > > > So why don't you take head on the challenges as listed below. There is a > > > hefty prize money. If not interested in money, the like of you should > > > attempt at least for sake of honour. > > > > > > 1. The Science and Rationalists' Association of India (Bengali > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language> : Bharatiya Bigyan O > > > Yuktibadi Samiti) is predominantly a rationalist > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalist> group based in Kolkata > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolkata> , India > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India> The group offers a prize of Rs. > > > 25,00,000 > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_for_evidence_of_the_paranor\ > > > mal> to anyone who can make accurate astrological > > > predictions/calculations under proper observing conditions > > > > > > 2. THE HINDU > > > > > > Online edition of India's National Newspaper > > > Thursday, May 14, 2009Rationalists' challenge to astrologers on poll > > > result > > > > > > Staff Reporter > > > > > > VIJAYAWADA: Rationalists and humanists have challenged astrologers and > > > other purveyors of superstition to predict election result accurately > > > and win a cash prize of Rs. 1 crore. > > > > > > Taking strong exception to the manner in which politicians had been > > > virtually prostrating before the `so-called' astrologers and > > > soothsayers in an attempt to find out their political fortunes, members > > > of the Indian chapter of the International Humanist and Ethical Union > > > (IHEU), Manava Vikas Vedika, Indian Radical Humanist Association, > > > Hyderabad Rationalist Forum and its affiliated organisations like Jana > > > Vignana Vedika and the Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations > > > have together thrown the gauntlet at the much-sought after astrologers > > > who have been in great demand in this election season. > > > > > > Seeking to disagree with the contention that astrology was also a > > > science, they wondered as to why astrologers aired diverse predictions > > > about the poll outcome. > > > > > > The questionnaire prepared by them include queries on the next Prime > > > Minister of the country, the combination of parties that would form the > > > government at the Centre, number of seats to be won by the major > > > political parties, next Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh and name of the > > > astrologer who would win this contest. > > > > > > Last date > > > > > > The last date for sending entries is May 15. > > > > > > Entries must be sent by registered post or courier in a sealed cover and > > > accompanied by a demand draft for Rs. 10,000 drawn in favour of Jana > > > Vignana Vedika. > > > > > > Printer friendly page > > > <http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=20090514588005\ > > > 00.htm & date=2009/05/14/ & prd=th & > > > > Send this article to Friends by E-Mail > > > <http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/pgemail.pl?date=2009/05/14/ & \ > > > prd=th & > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " > > > <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others, > > > > > > > > I wonder! where were these " scholars " when cats & dogs take over > > > the " group " ? > > > > > > > > One come with " worlds greatest Astrologer " and another calls for jihad > > > on classics. > > > > > > > > You want serious Astrology? > > > > > > > > Here is an excercise for you. > > > > > > > > Here are two set of Birth data. > > > > Set 1 > > > > A) 25-Sep-1974; 2:22PM, Cochin > > > > B) 14-Nov-1969; 1:45AM, Cochin > > > > B) 07-Oct-1972; 12:30AM, Cochin > > > > > > > > Set 2 > > > > A) 13-Oct-1969; 11:12 AM, Cochin > > > > B) 15-Dec-1961; 12:30 PM, Cochin > > > > C) 01-May-1971; 5:15 PM, Cochin > > > > D) 03-Feb-1968; 1:15 PM, Cochin > > > > E) 01-APr-1962; 4:05 PM, Cochin > > > > > > > > In the two sets, Fathers & Mothers are different > > > > > > > > A) Identify in each set the factor that indetifies that Father of > > > these children are same and Mother is Same. > > > > B) Identify the gender of the Natives. > > > > > > > > I don't want any links or long articles. But simple 1,2 3 > > > identification. > > > > > > > > A word to the Moderator: Prevention is better than Cure. > > > > (we have heard enough of the democratic principles). > > > > > > > >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not > > > rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of > > > course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show > > > your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom > > > you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Although this time around, Shenoy jee, mars is staying in cancer for way longer than usual... , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear, > > If Mangal In neecha rasi should triger such earthquakes, > > Here is list of periods Mangal was in Karkata Along with Sun Sign from 1990 to 2020. > > From To Sun Mars > 16-May-91 15-Jun-91 Vrish Kark > 16-Jun-91 15-Jul-91 Mithuna Kark > 4-Nov-92 15-Nov-92 Thula Kark > 16-Nov-92 28-Nov-92 Vrish Kark > 29-Nov-92 30-Nov-92 Vrish Kark-R > 1-Dec-92 15-Dec-92 Vrish Kark-R > 16-Dec-92 22-Dec-92 Dhanu Kark-R > 15-Apr-93 14-May-93 Mesh Kark > 15-May-93 12-Jun-93 Vrish Kark > 24-Sep-94 17-Oct-94 Kanya Kark > 18-Oct-94 16-Nov-94 Thula Kark > 17-Nov-94 22-Nov-94 Vrischik Kark > 10-Feb-95 12-Feb-95 Makara Kark-R > 13-Feb-95 14-Mar-95 Kumbh Kark-R > 15-Mar-95 24-Mar-95 Meena Kark-R > 25-Mar-95 14-Apr-95 Meena Kark > 15-Apr-95 10-May-95 Mesh Kark > 31-Aug-96 16-Sep-96 Simh Kark > 17-Sep-96 16-Oct-96 Kanya Kark > 17-Oct-96 19-Oct-96 Thula Kark > 12-Aug-98 16-Aug-98 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-98 16-Sep-98 Simh Kark > 17-Sep-98 27-Sep-98 Kanya Kark > 23-Jul-00 16-Aug-00 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-00 7-Sep-00 Simh Kark > 5-Jul-02 16-Jul-02 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-02 16-Aug-02 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-02 19-Aug-02 Simh Kark > 15-Jun-04 16-Jul-04 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-04 31-Jul-04 Karkat Kark > 25-May-06 15-Jun-06 Vrish Kark > 16-Jun-06 12-Jul-06 Mithun Kark > 29-Apr-08 14-May-08 Mesh Kark > 15-May-08 14-Jun-08 Vrish Kark > 15-Jun-08 21-Jun-08 Mithun Kark > 6-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 Kanya Kark > 18-Oct-09 16-Nov-09 Thula Kark > 17-Nov-09 15-Dec-09 Vrischik Kark > 16-Dec-09 20-Dec-09 Dhanu Kark > 21-Dec-09 14-Jan-10 Dhanu Kark-R > 15-Jan-10 12-Feb-10 Makara Kark-R > 13-Feb-10 10-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark-R > 11-Mar-10 14-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark > 15-Mar-10 13-Apr-10 Meena Kark > 14-Apr-10 14-May-10 Mesh Kark > 15-May-10 26-May-10 Vrish Kark > 10-Sep-11 17-Sep-11 Simh Kark > 18-Sep-11 17-Oct-11 Kanya Kark > 18-Oct-11 30-Oct-11 Thula Kark > 19-Aug-13 16-Sep-13 Simh Kark > 17-Sep-13 5-Oct-13 Kanya Kark > 31-Jul-15 17-Aug-15 Karkat Kark > 18-Aug-15 15-Sep-15 Simh Kark > 12-Jul-17 16-Jul-17 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-17 16-Aug-17 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-17 27-Aug-17 Simh Kark > 23-Jun-19 16-Jul-19 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-19 8-Aug-19 Karkat Kark > > The above includes periods when Mars was retrograde also. > > You may be surprised to find how many of earthquakes (of this strength and mass human destruction) have occured during these periods > > Keep in mind that earthquakes do occur practicaly now & then at any part of the world from very mild to slightly noticable (may be around 4 on ritcher scale) that do not do much harm. > >   > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil > > Thu, January 14, 2010 9:28:09 PM > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > Dear All, > First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra > (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes > is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of > astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav > Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > > surya baba!! > > > > Lilly > > > > <%40>, > > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40>, > > Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > > celebrating. then you wont need toﾂ complaint. it is a day you pray to god > > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > <%40> > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > With thanks & regards,ﾃ㤠> > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dear rohini ji, It surely could be one of the factors but not the only one or even the prime cause. Since it stays for a longer period, the issue is much more complex. Why this day itself? Why didn't it happen in any other months? Why those cordinates? (Haiti) So there has to be additional factors, that should be working in tandom with mars. If you remember the tsunami days, there were reports that it was triggered due to the weight of Very high-rise buildings that were built in Indonesia, singapur etc. But what triggered this event in Haiti? why unprecendented cold wave now? (-20deg in germany) Is there a relationship? A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, January 15, 2010 12:16:35 AM Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!  Although this time around, Shenoy jee, mars is staying in cancer for way longer than usual... , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear, > > If Mangal In neecha rasi should triger such earthquakes, > > Here is list of periods Mangal was in Karkata Along with Sun Sign from 1990 to 2020. > > From To Sun Mars > 16-May-91 15-Jun-91 Vrish Kark > 16-Jun-91 15-Jul-91 Mithuna Kark > 4-Nov-92 15-Nov-92 Thula Kark > 16-Nov-92 28-Nov-92 Vrish Kark > 29-Nov-92 30-Nov-92 Vrish Kark-R > 1-Dec-92 15-Dec-92 Vrish Kark-R > 16-Dec-92 22-Dec-92 Dhanu Kark-R > 15-Apr-93 14-May-93 Mesh Kark > 15-May-93 12-Jun-93 Vrish Kark > 24-Sep-94 17-Oct-94 Kanya Kark > 18-Oct-94 16-Nov-94 Thula Kark > 17-Nov-94 22-Nov-94 Vrischik Kark > 10-Feb-95 12-Feb-95 Makara Kark-R > 13-Feb-95 14-Mar-95 Kumbh Kark-R > 15-Mar-95 24-Mar-95 Meena Kark-R > 25-Mar-95 14-Apr-95 Meena Kark > 15-Apr-95 10-May-95 Mesh Kark > 31-Aug-96 16-Sep-96 Simh Kark > 17-Sep-96 16-Oct-96 Kanya Kark > 17-Oct-96 19-Oct-96 Thula Kark > 12-Aug-98 16-Aug-98 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-98 16-Sep-98 Simh Kark > 17-Sep-98 27-Sep-98 Kanya Kark > 23-Jul-00 16-Aug-00 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-00 7-Sep-00 Simh Kark > 5-Jul-02 16-Jul-02 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-02 16-Aug-02 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-02 19-Aug-02 Simh Kark > 15-Jun-04 16-Jul-04 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-04 31-Jul-04 Karkat Kark > 25-May-06 15-Jun-06 Vrish Kark > 16-Jun-06 12-Jul-06 Mithun Kark > 29-Apr-08 14-May-08 Mesh Kark > 15-May-08 14-Jun-08 Vrish Kark > 15-Jun-08 21-Jun-08 Mithun Kark > 6-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 Kanya Kark > 18-Oct-09 16-Nov-09 Thula Kark > 17-Nov-09 15-Dec-09 Vrischik Kark > 16-Dec-09 20-Dec-09 Dhanu Kark > 21-Dec-09 14-Jan-10 Dhanu Kark-R > 15-Jan-10 12-Feb-10 Makara Kark-R > 13-Feb-10 10-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark-R > 11-Mar-10 14-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark > 15-Mar-10 13-Apr-10 Meena Kark > 14-Apr-10 14-May-10 Mesh Kark > 15-May-10 26-May-10 Vrish Kark > 10-Sep-11 17-Sep-11 Simh Kark > 18-Sep-11 17-Oct-11 Kanya Kark > 18-Oct-11 30-Oct-11 Thula Kark > 19-Aug-13 16-Sep-13 Simh Kark > 17-Sep-13 5-Oct-13 Kanya Kark > 31-Jul-15 17-Aug-15 Karkat Kark > 18-Aug-15 15-Sep-15 Simh Kark > 12-Jul-17 16-Jul-17 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-17 16-Aug-17 Karkat Kark > 17-Aug-17 27-Aug-17 Simh Kark > 23-Jun-19 16-Jul-19 Mithun Kark > 17-Jul-19 8-Aug-19 Karkat Kark > > The above includes periods when Mars was retrograde also. > > You may be surprised to find how many of earthquakes (of this strength and mass human destruction) have occured during these periods > > Keep in mind that earthquakes do occur practicaly now & then at any part of the world from very mild to slightly noticable (may be around 4 on ritcher scale) that do not do much harm. > >   > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil@ ...> > > Thu, January 14, 2010 9:28:09 PM > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > Dear All, > First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra > (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes > is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of > astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav > Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > > surya baba!! > > > > Lilly > > > > <% 40. com>, > > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > > celebrating. then you wont need toﾂ complaint. it is a day you pray to god > > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > With thanks & regards,ﾃ㤠> > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 One planet Earth(our residence), one father SUN, and one precious Life is what we have now, so lets All(children of one mother earth) hold hands and collectively pray, and help our fellow brothers and siters(mars) at this very moment of distress before we shall all perish from the face of this earth. Lilly , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear rohini ji, > > It surely could be one of the factors but not the only one or even the prime cause. > > Since it stays for a longer period, the issue is much more complex. Why this day itself? Why didn't it happen in any other months? Why those cordinates? (Haiti) > > So there has to be additional factors, that should be working in tandom with mars. > > If you remember the tsunami days, there were reports that it was triggered due to the weight of Very high-rise buildings that were built in Indonesia, singapur etc. But what triggered this event in Haiti? why unprecendented cold wave now? (-20deg in germany) Is there a relationship? > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, January 15, 2010 12:16:35 AM > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > >  > Although this time around, Shenoy jee, mars is staying in cancer for way longer than usual... > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear, > > > > If Mangal In neecha rasi should triger such earthquakes, > > > > Here is list of periods Mangal was in Karkata Along with Sun Sign from 1990 to 2020. > > > > From To Sun Mars > > 16-May-91 15-Jun-91 Vrish Kark > > 16-Jun-91 15-Jul-91 Mithuna Kark > > 4-Nov-92 15-Nov-92 Thula Kark > > 16-Nov-92 28-Nov-92 Vrish Kark > > 29-Nov-92 30-Nov-92 Vrish Kark-R > > 1-Dec-92 15-Dec-92 Vrish Kark-R > > 16-Dec-92 22-Dec-92 Dhanu Kark-R > > 15-Apr-93 14-May-93 Mesh Kark > > 15-May-93 12-Jun-93 Vrish Kark > > 24-Sep-94 17-Oct-94 Kanya Kark > > 18-Oct-94 16-Nov-94 Thula Kark > > 17-Nov-94 22-Nov-94 Vrischik Kark > > 10-Feb-95 12-Feb-95 Makara Kark-R > > 13-Feb-95 14-Mar-95 Kumbh Kark-R > > 15-Mar-95 24-Mar-95 Meena Kark-R > > 25-Mar-95 14-Apr-95 Meena Kark > > 15-Apr-95 10-May-95 Mesh Kark > > 31-Aug-96 16-Sep-96 Simh Kark > > 17-Sep-96 16-Oct-96 Kanya Kark > > 17-Oct-96 19-Oct-96 Thula Kark > > 12-Aug-98 16-Aug-98 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-98 16-Sep-98 Simh Kark > > 17-Sep-98 27-Sep-98 Kanya Kark > > 23-Jul-00 16-Aug-00 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-00 7-Sep-00 Simh Kark > > 5-Jul-02 16-Jul-02 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-02 16-Aug-02 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-02 19-Aug-02 Simh Kark > > 15-Jun-04 16-Jul-04 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-04 31-Jul-04 Karkat Kark > > 25-May-06 15-Jun-06 Vrish Kark > > 16-Jun-06 12-Jul-06 Mithun Kark > > 29-Apr-08 14-May-08 Mesh Kark > > 15-May-08 14-Jun-08 Vrish Kark > > 15-Jun-08 21-Jun-08 Mithun Kark > > 6-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 Kanya Kark > > 18-Oct-09 16-Nov-09 Thula Kark > > 17-Nov-09 15-Dec-09 Vrischik Kark > > 16-Dec-09 20-Dec-09 Dhanu Kark > > 21-Dec-09 14-Jan-10 Dhanu Kark-R > > 15-Jan-10 12-Feb-10 Makara Kark-R > > 13-Feb-10 10-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark-R > > 11-Mar-10 14-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark > > 15-Mar-10 13-Apr-10 Meena Kark > > 14-Apr-10 14-May-10 Mesh Kark > > 15-May-10 26-May-10 Vrish Kark > > 10-Sep-11 17-Sep-11 Simh Kark > > 18-Sep-11 17-Oct-11 Kanya Kark > > 18-Oct-11 30-Oct-11 Thula Kark > > 19-Aug-13 16-Sep-13 Simh Kark > > 17-Sep-13 5-Oct-13 Kanya Kark > > 31-Jul-15 17-Aug-15 Karkat Kark > > 18-Aug-15 15-Sep-15 Simh Kark > > 12-Jul-17 16-Jul-17 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-17 16-Aug-17 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-17 27-Aug-17 Simh Kark > > 23-Jun-19 16-Jul-19 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-19 8-Aug-19 Karkat Kark > > > > The above includes periods when Mars was retrograde also. > > > > You may be surprised to find how many of earthquakes (of this strength and mass human destruction) have occured during these periods > > > > Keep in mind that earthquakes do occur practicaly now & then at any part of the world from very mild to slightly noticable (may be around 4 on ritcher scale) that do not do much harm. > > > >   > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil@ ...> > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 9:28:09 PM > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > Dear All, > > First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra > > (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes > > is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of > > astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav > > Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > > > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > > > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > > > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > > > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > > > surya baba!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > > > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > > > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > > > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > > > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > > > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > > > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > > > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > > > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > > > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > > > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > > > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > > > celebrating. then you wont need toﾂ complaint. it is a day you pray to god > > > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > > > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > > > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > > > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > With thanks & regards,ﾃ㤠> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > > > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > > > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > > > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > > > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Shenoy jee, I was just providing a nuance to consider and certainly not suggesting that Mangal Dada is causing all the problems! You know how I feel about one factor astrology ;-) Please see my reply to Vinay Jha Saheb about the importance of weather predictions! RR , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Dear rohini ji, > > It surely could be one of the factors but not the only one or even the prime cause. > > Since it stays for a longer period, the issue is much more complex. Why this day itself? Why didn't it happen in any other months? Why those cordinates? (Haiti) > > So there has to be additional factors, that should be working in tandom with mars. > > If you remember the tsunami days, there were reports that it was triggered due to the weight of Very high-rise buildings that were built in Indonesia, singapur etc. But what triggered this event in Haiti? why unprecendented cold wave now? (-20deg in germany) Is there a relationship? > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, January 15, 2010 12:16:35 AM > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > >  > Although this time around, Shenoy jee, mars is staying in cancer for way longer than usual... > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear, > > > > If Mangal In neecha rasi should triger such earthquakes, > > > > Here is list of periods Mangal was in Karkata Along with Sun Sign from 1990 to 2020. > > > > From To Sun Mars > > 16-May-91 15-Jun-91 Vrish Kark > > 16-Jun-91 15-Jul-91 Mithuna Kark > > 4-Nov-92 15-Nov-92 Thula Kark > > 16-Nov-92 28-Nov-92 Vrish Kark > > 29-Nov-92 30-Nov-92 Vrish Kark-R > > 1-Dec-92 15-Dec-92 Vrish Kark-R > > 16-Dec-92 22-Dec-92 Dhanu Kark-R > > 15-Apr-93 14-May-93 Mesh Kark > > 15-May-93 12-Jun-93 Vrish Kark > > 24-Sep-94 17-Oct-94 Kanya Kark > > 18-Oct-94 16-Nov-94 Thula Kark > > 17-Nov-94 22-Nov-94 Vrischik Kark > > 10-Feb-95 12-Feb-95 Makara Kark-R > > 13-Feb-95 14-Mar-95 Kumbh Kark-R > > 15-Mar-95 24-Mar-95 Meena Kark-R > > 25-Mar-95 14-Apr-95 Meena Kark > > 15-Apr-95 10-May-95 Mesh Kark > > 31-Aug-96 16-Sep-96 Simh Kark > > 17-Sep-96 16-Oct-96 Kanya Kark > > 17-Oct-96 19-Oct-96 Thula Kark > > 12-Aug-98 16-Aug-98 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-98 16-Sep-98 Simh Kark > > 17-Sep-98 27-Sep-98 Kanya Kark > > 23-Jul-00 16-Aug-00 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-00 7-Sep-00 Simh Kark > > 5-Jul-02 16-Jul-02 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-02 16-Aug-02 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-02 19-Aug-02 Simh Kark > > 15-Jun-04 16-Jul-04 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-04 31-Jul-04 Karkat Kark > > 25-May-06 15-Jun-06 Vrish Kark > > 16-Jun-06 12-Jul-06 Mithun Kark > > 29-Apr-08 14-May-08 Mesh Kark > > 15-May-08 14-Jun-08 Vrish Kark > > 15-Jun-08 21-Jun-08 Mithun Kark > > 6-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 Kanya Kark > > 18-Oct-09 16-Nov-09 Thula Kark > > 17-Nov-09 15-Dec-09 Vrischik Kark > > 16-Dec-09 20-Dec-09 Dhanu Kark > > 21-Dec-09 14-Jan-10 Dhanu Kark-R > > 15-Jan-10 12-Feb-10 Makara Kark-R > > 13-Feb-10 10-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark-R > > 11-Mar-10 14-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark > > 15-Mar-10 13-Apr-10 Meena Kark > > 14-Apr-10 14-May-10 Mesh Kark > > 15-May-10 26-May-10 Vrish Kark > > 10-Sep-11 17-Sep-11 Simh Kark > > 18-Sep-11 17-Oct-11 Kanya Kark > > 18-Oct-11 30-Oct-11 Thula Kark > > 19-Aug-13 16-Sep-13 Simh Kark > > 17-Sep-13 5-Oct-13 Kanya Kark > > 31-Jul-15 17-Aug-15 Karkat Kark > > 18-Aug-15 15-Sep-15 Simh Kark > > 12-Jul-17 16-Jul-17 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-17 16-Aug-17 Karkat Kark > > 17-Aug-17 27-Aug-17 Simh Kark > > 23-Jun-19 16-Jul-19 Mithun Kark > > 17-Jul-19 8-Aug-19 Karkat Kark > > > > The above includes periods when Mars was retrograde also. > > > > You may be surprised to find how many of earthquakes (of this strength and mass human destruction) have occured during these periods > > > > Keep in mind that earthquakes do occur practicaly now & then at any part of the world from very mild to slightly noticable (may be around 4 on ritcher scale) that do not do much harm. > > > >   > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil@ ...> > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 9:28:09 PM > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > Dear All, > > First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra > > (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes > > is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of > > astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav > > Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > > > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > > > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > > > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > > > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > > > surya baba!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > > > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > > > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > > > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > > > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > > > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > > > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > > > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > > > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > > > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > > > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > > > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > > > celebrating. then you wont need toﾂ complaint. it is a day you pray to god > > > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > > > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > > > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > > > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > With thanks & regards,ﾃ㤠> > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > > > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > > > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > > > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > > > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Ha Ha, looks like Ma has been noshing on Charvak! , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > One planet Earth(our residence), one father SUN, and one precious Life is what we have now, so lets All(children of one mother earth) hold hands and collectively pray, and help our fellow brothers and siters(mars) at this very moment of distress before we shall all perish from the face of this earth. > > Lilly > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear rohini ji, > > > > It surely could be one of the factors but not the only one or even the prime cause. > > > > Since it stays for a longer period, the issue is much more complex. Why this day itself? Why didn't it happen in any other months? Why those cordinates? (Haiti) > > > > So there has to be additional factors, that should be working in tandom with mars. > > > > If you remember the tsunami days, there were reports that it was triggered due to the weight of Very high-rise buildings that were built in Indonesia, singapur etc. But what triggered this event in Haiti? why unprecendented cold wave now? (-20deg in germany) Is there a relationship? > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Fri, January 15, 2010 12:16:35 AM > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > >  > > Although this time around, Shenoy jee, mars is staying in cancer for way longer than usual... > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear, > > > > > > If Mangal In neecha rasi should triger such earthquakes, > > > > > > Here is list of periods Mangal was in Karkata Along with Sun Sign from 1990 to 2020. > > > > > > From To Sun Mars > > > 16-May-91 15-Jun-91 Vrish Kark > > > 16-Jun-91 15-Jul-91 Mithuna Kark > > > 4-Nov-92 15-Nov-92 Thula Kark > > > 16-Nov-92 28-Nov-92 Vrish Kark > > > 29-Nov-92 30-Nov-92 Vrish Kark-R > > > 1-Dec-92 15-Dec-92 Vrish Kark-R > > > 16-Dec-92 22-Dec-92 Dhanu Kark-R > > > 15-Apr-93 14-May-93 Mesh Kark > > > 15-May-93 12-Jun-93 Vrish Kark > > > 24-Sep-94 17-Oct-94 Kanya Kark > > > 18-Oct-94 16-Nov-94 Thula Kark > > > 17-Nov-94 22-Nov-94 Vrischik Kark > > > 10-Feb-95 12-Feb-95 Makara Kark-R > > > 13-Feb-95 14-Mar-95 Kumbh Kark-R > > > 15-Mar-95 24-Mar-95 Meena Kark-R > > > 25-Mar-95 14-Apr-95 Meena Kark > > > 15-Apr-95 10-May-95 Mesh Kark > > > 31-Aug-96 16-Sep-96 Simh Kark > > > 17-Sep-96 16-Oct-96 Kanya Kark > > > 17-Oct-96 19-Oct-96 Thula Kark > > > 12-Aug-98 16-Aug-98 Karkat Kark > > > 17-Aug-98 16-Sep-98 Simh Kark > > > 17-Sep-98 27-Sep-98 Kanya Kark > > > 23-Jul-00 16-Aug-00 Karkat Kark > > > 17-Aug-00 7-Sep-00 Simh Kark > > > 5-Jul-02 16-Jul-02 Mithun Kark > > > 17-Jul-02 16-Aug-02 Karkat Kark > > > 17-Aug-02 19-Aug-02 Simh Kark > > > 15-Jun-04 16-Jul-04 Mithun Kark > > > 17-Jul-04 31-Jul-04 Karkat Kark > > > 25-May-06 15-Jun-06 Vrish Kark > > > 16-Jun-06 12-Jul-06 Mithun Kark > > > 29-Apr-08 14-May-08 Mesh Kark > > > 15-May-08 14-Jun-08 Vrish Kark > > > 15-Jun-08 21-Jun-08 Mithun Kark > > > 6-Oct-09 17-Oct-09 Kanya Kark > > > 18-Oct-09 16-Nov-09 Thula Kark > > > 17-Nov-09 15-Dec-09 Vrischik Kark > > > 16-Dec-09 20-Dec-09 Dhanu Kark > > > 21-Dec-09 14-Jan-10 Dhanu Kark-R > > > 15-Jan-10 12-Feb-10 Makara Kark-R > > > 13-Feb-10 10-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark-R > > > 11-Mar-10 14-Mar-10 Kumbh Kark > > > 15-Mar-10 13-Apr-10 Meena Kark > > > 14-Apr-10 14-May-10 Mesh Kark > > > 15-May-10 26-May-10 Vrish Kark > > > 10-Sep-11 17-Sep-11 Simh Kark > > > 18-Sep-11 17-Oct-11 Kanya Kark > > > 18-Oct-11 30-Oct-11 Thula Kark > > > 19-Aug-13 16-Sep-13 Simh Kark > > > 17-Sep-13 5-Oct-13 Kanya Kark > > > 31-Jul-15 17-Aug-15 Karkat Kark > > > 18-Aug-15 15-Sep-15 Simh Kark > > > 12-Jul-17 16-Jul-17 Mithun Kark > > > 17-Jul-17 16-Aug-17 Karkat Kark > > > 17-Aug-17 27-Aug-17 Simh Kark > > > 23-Jun-19 16-Jul-19 Mithun Kark > > > 17-Jul-19 8-Aug-19 Karkat Kark > > > > > > The above includes periods when Mars was retrograde also. > > > > > > You may be surprised to find how many of earthquakes (of this strength and mass human destruction) have occured during these periods > > > > > > Keep in mind that earthquakes do occur practicaly now & then at any part of the world from very mild to slightly noticable (may be around 4 on ritcher scale) that do not do much harm. > > > > > >   > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Acharya Shushil Awasthi Prabhakar <acharyashushil@ ...> > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 9:28:09 PM > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > Dear All, > > > First you see Mangal in Karkt mean in Nich rashi and Mangal as Bhumiputra > > > (Sun of earth) and sun of this earth in trouble so please think earthquakes > > > is result of Mangal and every action of this Universe is the result of > > > astrology and every thing is the requirement of the time (Vinash for Nav > > > Srajun) understand and sun is also facing trouble. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and > > > > fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He > > > > does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, > > > > sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in > > > > volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of > > > > surya baba!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless > > > > they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! > > > > Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one > > > > vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially > > > > the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who > > > > is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) > > > > before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! > > > > Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we > > > > witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave > > > > when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for > > > > Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent > > > > than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com>, > > > > Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not > > > > celebrating. then you wont need toﾂ complaint. it is a day you pray to god > > > > and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > ﾂ > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are > > > > dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not > > > > have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar > > > > Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > With thanks & regards,ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ﾃ㤠> > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the > > > > other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how > > > > you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash > > > > already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for > > > > that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST > > > > show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals > > > > whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dear Lilly, I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) Those are physical and tangible realities! Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) RR , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > regards > > > santhosh > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > >  > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Divine Surya Putra's, Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! Amma , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Lilly, > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive  in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that as qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM  Divine Surya Putra's, Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! Amma , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > Dear Lilly, > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! Divine Surya Putra's, Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! Amma , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Lilly, > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > >  > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Let us regroup on this theme and review this after 3rd February 2010! :-) RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive  in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that as qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM > > >  > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > Amma > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > RR > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 23! , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Let us regroup on this theme and review this after 3rd February 2010! :-) > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive  in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that as qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > Amma > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Yes, I believe that kind of forms the crux of the 2012 theme! It is not that the sun is at the centre of galaxy but that the center of the galaxy lies in Dhanu constellation (more accurately: is viewed in Sagittarious when viewed from the Earth-perspective (like ant was saying ;-)) spank in the middle of mars and venus! Thomas Razzetto (2008) has written a good article if you are interested. Sadly, I do not have the full link but google should bring it up if you put in the name, year and 2012 keywords! 'appy readin' RR_, , santhosh10 wrote: > > Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > Amma > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > RR > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 AY_Yappa Milky Way..Silky Whey, GA_lexy & WA_lexy what does Amma know? Amma knows she raised you children do be wise, and brimming & shinning with " light " wherever you go. Why the dates keep changing divine putra? Amma , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Yes, I believe that kind of forms the crux of the 2012 theme! It is not that the sun is at the centre of galaxy but that the center of the galaxy lies in Dhanu constellation (more accurately: is viewed in Sagittarious when viewed from the Earth-perspective (like ant was saying ;-)) spank in the middle of mars and venus! > > Thomas Razzetto (2008) has written a good article if you are interested. Sadly, I do not have the full link but google should bring it up if you put in the name, year and 2012 keywords! > > 'appy readin' > > RR_, > > , santhosh10@ wrote: > > > > Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > Amma > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Does Amma know herself? ;-) .... Because the default dasa is not the same as the one that really applies in a certain " case " ! :-) RR_, , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > AY_Yappa > > Milky Way..Silky Whey, GA_lexy & WA_lexy what does Amma know? > Amma knows she raised you children do be wise, and brimming & shinning with " light " wherever you go. > Why the dates keep changing divine putra? > > Amma > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Yes, I believe that kind of forms the crux of the 2012 theme! It is not that the sun is at the centre of galaxy but that the center of the galaxy lies in Dhanu constellation (more accurately: is viewed in Sagittarious when viewed from the Earth-perspective (like ant was saying ;-)) spank in the middle of mars and venus! > > > > Thomas Razzetto (2008) has written a good article if you are interested. Sadly, I do not have the full link but google should bring it up if you put in the name, year and 2012 keywords! > > > > 'appy readin' > > > > RR_, > > > > , santhosh10@ wrote: > > > > > > Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > > > Amma > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Dada, Remember that experiment that you may have done in physics lab when in school! A plane with a weight placed on it was gradually lifted with 'silky' movement (no jerks!!) and at a certain point the weight slid down ever so little! The next tiny 'lift' then made the weight slide down the plane! In proverbial terms this physics experiment is very same as the straw that broke the camel's back! :-) Let us talk on 23rd February about this theme! Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive  in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that as qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM > > >  > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > Amma > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > RR > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Putra, What do you mean by the default dasa is not applying? Speak in a language that Amma can understand. I am afraid you children may not know Amma completely at this point, but hopefully Appa Ji(knower of all 3 aspects of time) will shed his mighty " light " on all you little ones..You do know that all of you lucky stars were raised in Amma's lap including asuras, devtas and manshuyas. Amma , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Does Amma know herself? ;-) > > ... Because the default dasa is not the same as the one that really applies in a certain " case " ! :-) > > RR_, > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > AY_Yappa > > > > Milky Way..Silky Whey, GA_lexy & WA_lexy what does Amma know? > > Amma knows she raised you children do be wise, and brimming & shinning with " light " wherever you go. > > Why the dates keep changing divine putra? > > > > Amma > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I believe that kind of forms the crux of the 2012 theme! It is not that the sun is at the centre of galaxy but that the center of the galaxy lies in Dhanu constellation (more accurately: is viewed in Sagittarious when viewed from the Earth-perspective (like ant was saying ;-)) spank in the middle of mars and venus! > > > > > > Thomas Razzetto (2008) has written a good article if you are interested. Sadly, I do not have the full link but google should bring it up if you put in the name, year and 2012 keywords! > > > > > > 'appy readin' > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , santhosh10@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> > > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > > > > > Amma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Date with AAA........Mmm.................A Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 1/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:49 PM  23! , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > Let us regroup on this theme and review this after 3rd February 2010! :-) > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive  in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that as qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > Amma > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Amma noshed on Charvaak Dada. I do not like that! I am not talking to Amma anymore :-( <GUFFAW!> RR_, , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Putra, What do you mean by the default dasa is not applying? Speak in a language that Amma can understand. > > I am afraid you children may not know Amma completely at this point, but hopefully Appa Ji(knower of all 3 aspects of time) will shed his mighty " light " on all you little ones..You do know that all of you lucky stars were raised in Amma's lap including asuras, devtas and manshuyas. > > Amma > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Does Amma know herself? ;-) > > > > ... Because the default dasa is not the same as the one that really applies in a certain " case " ! :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > AY_Yappa > > > > > > Milky Way..Silky Whey, GA_lexy & WA_lexy what does Amma know? > > > Amma knows she raised you children do be wise, and brimming & shinning with " light " wherever you go. > > > Why the dates keep changing divine putra? > > > > > > Amma > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, I believe that kind of forms the crux of the 2012 theme! It is not that the sun is at the centre of galaxy but that the center of the galaxy lies in Dhanu constellation (more accurately: is viewed in Sagittarious when viewed from the Earth-perspective (like ant was saying ;-)) spank in the middle of mars and venus! > > > > > > > > Thomas Razzetto (2008) has written a good article if you are interested. Sadly, I do not have the full link but google should bring it up if you put in the name, year and 2012 keywords! > > > > > > > > 'appy readin' > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , santhosh10@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> > > > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 > > > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > > > > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > > > > > > > Amma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 ARE YOU SERIOUS? My condolences :-( Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Date with AAA........Mmm.................A > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:49 PM > > >  > > > > 23! > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > Let us regroup on this theme and review this after 3rd February 2010! :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive  in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that as qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > > > Amma > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 But Why beta? Selfless Amma has no enmity with anyone!! Who is Charvvaka dada? Amma , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Amma noshed on Charvaak Dada. I do not like that! I am not talking to Amma anymore :-( <GUFFAW!> > > > RR_, > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Putra, What do you mean by the default dasa is not applying? Speak in a language that Amma can understand. > > > > I am afraid you children may not know Amma completely at this point, but hopefully Appa Ji(knower of all 3 aspects of time) will shed his mighty " light " on all you little ones..You do know that all of you lucky stars were raised in Amma's lap including asuras, devtas and manshuyas. > > > > Amma > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Does Amma know herself? ;-) > > > > > > ... Because the default dasa is not the same as the one that really applies in a certain " case " ! :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > AY_Yappa > > > > > > > > Milky Way..Silky Whey, GA_lexy & WA_lexy what does Amma know? > > > > Amma knows she raised you children do be wise, and brimming & shinning with " light " wherever you go. > > > > Why the dates keep changing divine putra? > > > > > > > > Amma > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I believe that kind of forms the crux of the 2012 theme! It is not that the sun is at the centre of galaxy but that the center of the galaxy lies in Dhanu constellation (more accurately: is viewed in Sagittarious when viewed from the Earth-perspective (like ant was saying ;-)) spank in the middle of mars and venus! > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Razzetto (2008) has written a good article if you are interested. Sadly, I do not have the full link but google should bring it up if you put in the name, year and 2012 keywords! > > > > > > > > > > 'appy readin' > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , santhosh10@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Surya may not be in the physical centre of milky way galaxy, but it is at the centre of gravity of the galaxy. It is at the region of the milky way where maximum life energy is concentrated. Further the milky way itself is at the centre of gravity point of the whole universe, thereby making sun at the centre of the universe. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> > > > > > > Fri, 15 Jan 2010 01:15:20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Divine Surya Putra's, > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took divine birth..Don't you children forget that!! > > > > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain simple brain think again, > > > > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things out okay baccha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Amma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the center of our galaxy :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at the center of the Universe (as we see it!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the rest of the 9 yards! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated (heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopical perspective and framework 'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have benefitted from it and associated advice! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the cat dragged-in becomes the gospel! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA knows it all! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady, firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth. > > > > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya baba!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially the children feel the impact the most! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action (cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun relates to both of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and not celebrating. then you wont need to complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the lost lives in the earthquake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating ''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM > > > > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget who the other assailants were! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals whom you have helped through astrology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler YUGA ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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