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Dear Members

 

th thread must have been edited by some1/any1 in the thread whatever the feels

they r lost within the wrong thread.

 

such requests have been made from time to time and no one is really doing their

BIT here sadly.

 

sure this was a great natural tragedy as Hillar clinton said next to the Asinan

Tsunami in the damage, devestation to both human lives and their assets

 

with shattered lives already torn by civil war, drug syndicates.

 

we hope this tragedy at least unites them and move forward in all areas of

progressive living and give up their civil war, drugs swing for good as long as

possible all progressive societies do have them but less to poor nations who

suffer from all sides even this ugly side

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

 

Fri, January 15, 2010 9:19:56 AM

Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

 

 

 

Good night sweet, sweet, sweeter than saccharine children :-)

My heart goes out to the people of Haiti..

Tonight I shall pray for all my children(including those who lost their lives in

this event).

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> My Governor General is Haitian! We feel their and Her pain!

>

> RR_;

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Share with Haiti people.they deserve too.As a group I share.An occassion too

seriously to pray for them

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > Â

> >

> > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >

> > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> >

> > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:57 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > ARE YOU SERIOUS?

> >

> > My condolences :-(

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Date with AAA........Mmm. ......... .......A

> > >

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > >

> > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:49 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 23!

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Let us regroup on this theme and review this after 3rd February 2010!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him

galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive ÂÂÂ

in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that asÂÂÂ

qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort

tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂÂÂ

 Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > > > ÂÂÂ

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ÂÂÂ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Divine Surya Putra's,

> > > > >

> > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec

from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also

life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took

divine birth..Don't you children forget that!!

> > > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain

simple brain think again,

> > > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things

out okay baccha!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Amma

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the

center of our galaxy :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and

heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at

the center of the Universe (as we see it!).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent

sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the

rest of the 9 yards!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we

know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated

(heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework

'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not

have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have

benefitted from it and associated advice!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet

that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the

nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and

then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of

KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the

cat dragged-in becomes the gospel!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA

knows it all! ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady,

firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other

graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to

everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth.

> > > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as

in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya

baba!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests

that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get

worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes

one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially

the children feel the impact the most!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father

Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action

(cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and

order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that

we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave

when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun

relates to both of them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more

intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > well rohini ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and

not celebrating. then you wont need toÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the

lost lives in the earthquake.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > santhosh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in

Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do

not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath

Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating

''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard.

> > > > > > > > > > With thanks &

regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÃÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚Â

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM

> > > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚Â

> > > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget

who the other assailants were!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this

forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not

rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course

for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you

MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals

whom you have helped through astrology!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler

YUGA ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Prashant Ji and members

Except this : " Good night sweet, sweet, sweeter than saccharine children :-) " the

rest and the feelings towars the people of Port as Prince,our heart goes to

them.

We certainly share their grief,worry and pain.we stand united in our

melanchology to pray for them.

Gods acts some times are very curt and we do not whether such ghastly inidents

beyond measure have any significance particulalry thos already limping to raise

heads.

 

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/14/10, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: My heart goes out to the people of Haiti..

 

Thursday, January 14, 2010, 11:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Members

 

th thread must have been edited by some1/any1 in the thread whatever the feels

they r lost within the wrong thread.

 

such requests have been made from time to time and no one is really doing their

BIT here sadly.

 

sure this was a great natural tragedy as Hillar clinton said next to the Asinan

Tsunami in the damage, devestation to both human lives and their assets

 

with shattered lives already torn by civil war, drug syndicates.

 

we hope this tragedy at least unites them and move forward in all areas of

progressive living and give up their civil war, drugs swing for good as long as

possible all progressive societies do have them but less to poor nations who

suffer from all sides even this ugly side

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Fri, January 15, 2010 9:19:56 AM

Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

 

Good night sweet, sweet, sweeter than saccharine children :-)

My heart goes out to the people of Haiti..

Tonight I shall pray for all my children(including those who lost their lives in

this event).

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....>

wrote:

>

> My Governor General is Haitian! We feel their and Her pain!

>

> RR_;

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > Share with Haiti people.they deserve too.As a group I share.An occassion too

seriously to pray for them

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > Â

> >

> > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >

> > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> >

> > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:57 PM

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> > ARE YOU SERIOUS?

> >

> > My condolences :-(

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Date with AAA........Mmm. ......... .......A

> > >

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > >

> > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:49 PM

> > >

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > 23!

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Let us regroup on this theme and review this after 3rd February 2010!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Appa poor man is treated with no symapathy as v misplace with him

galaxy and then centre him in universe.jyotish is taking dive ÂÂÂ

in divina MAA or Ma lap.Amaa knows certainly not that asÂÂÂ

qualified as jaad buddhi.Ants theory gives meaning and the collective effort

tiny beings make marvellous instance to be minded.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂÂÂ

 Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > > > ÂÂÂ

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:15 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ÂÂÂ

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Divine Surya Putra's,

> > > > >

> > > > > Maybe Appa dearest appears as a tine, tiny dot, or even a small spec

from where you are siting, but he is certainly the center of universe(and also

life giver) to AMMA(metaphorically speaking) through which you children took

divine birth..Don't you children forget that!!

> > > > > Before you children put another scientific logic in Amma's plain

simple brain think again,

> > > > > Amma is " jaad buddhi " (made of earth)as in very slow to figure things

out okay baccha!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Amma

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't think Sun is the center of the Universe! It is not even the

center of our galaxy :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun is at the center of our solar system as per astronomers and

heliocentric astrologer, but the rest of us actually think that we (earth) is at

the center of the Universe (as we see it!).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That is how we 'create' through our perceptions and apparent

sighting, phenomenoa such as retrogression, combustion, conjunction, and the

rest of the 9 yards!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now we know that Sun is not burning mercury or venus or jupiter, we

know that mars right now is not retrograde in reality, nor is it debilitated

(heliocentric view would probably put in or close to its exaltation sign ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Those are physical and tangible realities!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yet we know that geocentric/geotopic al perspective and framework

'works' or so many intelligent, pragmatic persons over the centuries would not

have kept embracing, and nurturing the astrological framework and many have

benefitted from it and associated advice!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hence it is obvious that it is not the Pinda/body/physical planet

that is producing the effect. Even the mathematical crossings that create the

nodes are not producing the effects. Although most of us keep saying that and

then we and the world begins to believe in that being a reality and all kind of

KOOKIE theories involving vibrations and fine radiations and whatever else the

cat dragged-in becomes the gospel!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am but an ordinary mortal ant! What do I know! But I am sure AMMA

knows it all! ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun(father)is as the center of the universe is always steady,

firm, and fixed in his ways! He never falls short of his duty unlike other

graha's. He does selfless seva each and every day by giving life, light to

everyone, sustains, and nurtures all beings on earth.

> > > > > > > It is actually Amma that we need to worry about when she erupts(as

in volcanoes), and shakes(as in earthquakes) when not under the control of surya

baba!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun is the father, Santhosh ... I hope not Jyotishi contests

that unless they are starting some weird system, yet again!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When the father crosses the Dehleej, the threshold children get

worried! Because we have been told, conditioned that crossing a threshold makes

one vulnerable and when father is vulnerable, the rest of the family, especially

the children feel the impact the most!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mesha, Karka, Tula, Makar are the four samkrantis whence Father

Sun who is fixed (permanent) moves from ambivalence (mutable) to action

(cardinal) before coming back home to rest (fixed)!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Solar individuals love constancy and continuity, familiarity and

order! Motion makes them quesey and yet it energizes them hence the duality that

we witness in aries and libra. Moon and saturn determine how sun would behave

when in cancer and capricorn! Jupiter and mars if so placed help too, for Sun

relates to both of them.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Like I said earlier: As below so above! You all are way more

intelligent than I can ever be. Let me not waste your time with details!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > well rohini ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i think the correct usage is observing makara sankranti and

not celebrating. then you wont need toÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

complaint. it is a day you pray to god and hence we can definitely pray for the

lost lives in the earthquake.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > santhosh

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thu, 14 January, 2010 9:09:34 AM

> > > > > > > > > Re: OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > > > > > > How can anyone celebrate when " brothers " and 'sisters' in

Haiti are dying and suffering what many on the other side of this very world do

not have an idea or CARE! AMAZINGLY CALLOUS!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath

Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji & others,Good Morning,We are celebrating

''Makar Sankranti'' today.We will discuss again in this regard.

> > > > > > > > > > With thanks &

regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÃÃ\

¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚Â

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thu, January 14, 2010 8:12:37 AM

> > > > > > > > > > OPEN CHALLENGE!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚Â

> > > > > > > > > > This is my open challenge to Gopu, Dhirendra and I forget

who the other assailants were!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Instead of squirming in your tight chairs, SHOW us on this

forum how you would discuss astrology so that everyone benefits! Please do not

rehash already written material (BORING!). A link would be acceptable of course

for that is good reference and does not waste bandwidth!

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> > > > > > > > > > If you have the gumption to criticise and attack others, you

MUST show your mettle and what you have done for Astrology or for individuals

whom you have helped through astrology!

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> > > > > > > > > > Or else, hold your peace! This is 2010 and not some simpler

YUGA ;-)

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