freely providing my primers (about 400 pages all told) FOR more Jyotsh content plz

January 17, 2010

DEAR rrJI

THIS WILL BE NICE IF U CAN GIVE A LINK TOT THE SAME HERE AND GROUP FILE LINKS

ALSO FOR EZ REF AND PPL CAN PICK a few pages for discussiion REGULALRY AND IN

CASE U HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ALREADY DONE BY OTHERS CAN ADD A SEPERATE REF TO

THE SAME WILL HELP PPL LEARN, UNDERSTAND BETTER

SORRY ABT THE CAPS....just by oversight

.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Sun, January 17, 2010 5:05:28 AM

Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01- more Jyotsh content plz

Kumar ji,

Unfortunately, Internet discussions -- in my observations -- have always fallen

short. It is too crowded, with too many levels of understanding or application

or even sincerity. The reason I keep repeating about 'rehashing' is that for any

serious treatment of the subject, discussion is not the way to go, particularly

when short attention spans and childish malice at heart and other insecurities

are involved and rampant.

Anyways, I have been freely providing my primers (about 400 pages all told) for

a long long time. I do not feel it necessarily to copy and paste what has

already been written, available for FREE and way better than any patchy

conversational and discontinuous postings that jyotish discussion fora are

capable of, due to the format and other dynamics.

Any sincere and serious members can write to me (use the send mail option) and I

will have those sent to them (5.66 MB attachments) as a gift.

Rohiniranjan

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear RRJI

>

> even the great astrological magazine did reproduce some articles from the past

only way the newer generations will know about them

>

> so we can still bring back some old topics that have been well done, debated

in the past, this ppl like u who have been for ong in forums can say and lead we

can disagree on matters as it is natural to have the same or a different view

from the established but not something contradictory as KP does

> one hand bash yogas, write works with Lagna or chandra as the basis and still

dismiss it midway the books withut clearing out the rubbish according to them

just lagna matters no longer chandra [if one of the 2 is strong]

>

> like wise on yogas , vargas they make a hue and cry yet some elements in them

use it and EVEN KP's books do quote of them so when we come up with strange out

of the box iceas it must be as said not confuse ppl

>

> we can have nwer topics also come in as many preceptions, professions have

added value to the LIVELIHOOD area of life so has marriage as a instution too

decline, become a contract/lease kind today so how Jyotish can guide, assist ppl

in need can be our focus on and there is enough of material amoung us on this

surely

>

> i am restating I am not usig anyones msg of attacking us but we can surely

keep such criticisms away, i am equally sure they also have a responsiblity to

the subject merely calling us a private chat room grp will not help if they love

Jyotish they can direct us from the erring course to our destination.

>

> best wishes

>

> .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Sat, January 16, 2010 9:56:13 AM

> Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01

>

> Dear Prashant_jee and others on this forum,

>

> I hear you! All of YOU, really! But here is my problem:

>

> What is this JYOTISH that you all want to hear and see, mostly, often,

sometimes? Is it merely REHASHED old writings and copy and paste segments from

published books that at least I have seen on other forums from Great Writers!

>

> Or does one want to read garbled, half-truths and indecipherable messages

poorly formatted and in some cases with 'Andaas' -- strange characters that get

in the way of the text and what one is trying to say for valid or invalid

reasons -- all justified, of course!

>

> There is PLENTY that has been written about jyotish and most of it is

available for free! But who has the time or SINCERITY to read?

>

> Someone burns the midnight oil and takes the time to post a painstakingly

written research article with lots and lots of examples and the half-baked

critics come out with their cocky attitudes and create more confusion because

they are half-cocked and have neither the ability or experience to write clearly

and in details! Or with examples!

>

> Friend or Foe, I challenge each and everyone of you to come forth and show

your brilliance and dedication and not the two or three syllable sentences that

you are capable of!

>

> The peanuts are on me if you manage to ...

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji

> >

> > thanks for the supprt/assurances and this was what I meant by my

posts/intervention I am as much worried like any member be it Gopu ji or anyone

when we drift too far from the subject and I AM NOT AVERSE TO DIVERSITY,

occassional does of fresh air, reliving moments either, which add spice to our

lives and the forum as well.

> >

> > But the need to bring back Jyotish center stage is our collective

respomsiblity, goal always and am happy to see VRY, Gulika etc and other

elements taking over the threat sun's placement. let the thread sutibly be

re-phrased in replies by members

> >

> > as always when I can add something i will surely do.as said i t is a

collective job. less of the moderator as a person, more as a fellow astrologer

is what I love to be seen doing. this is possible only witht he co-operation of

one and all.

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, January 16, 2010 8:58:15 AM

> > Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01

> >

> > Prashant_jee,

> >

> > I was not trying to force you to write etc. It is good to hear that there

are so many of us volunteers who pitch in, and can help this forum.

> >

> > Please take your time and never feel pressed to write or lead any threads or

discussion. This is a very democratic and compared to many others, a very civil

and mostly affectionate forum. Yes we have banters and some trouble-makers who

hardly ever contribute anything meaningless other than their personal angst

cropping up and so on, but even the deadliest malaria-bearing mosquitos can be

thwarted through well-known preventive measures!

> >

> > NOT TO WORRY ONE BIT SIR!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RRji,

> > >

> > > I hope know my answer even before I reply.

> > >

> > > 1 that whenever I find time I have certainly not shyed away from sharing

what i know recent one on Eclipses even y'day is a case in point.

> > > 2. where i can't fill in i have solicited help from members like u,

krishna ji, Suresh babu ji, M tripathi ji, rafel g, , though others like Gopu,

Nikit, anup, gaurav ghosh ... also did their bit on and off.

> > > 3. my time constraints I have been sharing with some of the seniors

privately and NOT MUCH has changed, whatever time I get am surely doing what i

can, my reading of queries itself has dropped in the past 2 yrs plus as much as

I like to keep it on a good level.

> > > 4, previously cooking i had options of doing it on and off m now full

time. esp no salt, no oils stuff for my mother and the rest me, father normal

stuff my niece is here on a holiday got stuck in the situation inbetwen that

came in and have still maanaged to give her the best time, attn i can within my

limits a week more to go hope to make it a better visit, and repeat one next

summer from Down Under.

> > > 5. i have stepped in only when someone or other has pointed out to a

drift, abuse or a drag or snags in postings from itself kind, never pushed

any agenda or been doing what is not in the best interests of the group, JYOTISH

AT LARGE.

> > > 5, i will still try to put in some new threads when there is a drift, LET

ME WORK ON THEM but need some continuity from others as well

> > >

> > > 5a. 2 news items of interest to astrology y'day also DID NOT get a single

reply

> > > retrogression of Mars, and MP in UK who used astrology effectively unlike

the hypocrites or pseudo secular politicians of India

> > > regards/

> > >

> > > 5b. but with ur rich experience and yrs in diff forums u can LEAD THE WAY

surely we r behind u, assure u of support as well.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 8:32:35 AM

> > > Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01

> > >

> > > Dear Prashant jee,

> > >

> > > Please do not take this the wrong way!

> > >

> > > Since you have been forced into this moderator role by some NAUGHTY/NUTTY

elements, you have stopped posting any astrological posts!

> > >

> > > Avoid these intentional distractions from Trojans who prey on your

wonderful inner self and instead show us your wonderful astrological self! I am

counting on that! You are a wonderful moderator and a beautiful soul!! Now SHOW

it!!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mebers,

> > > >

> > > > We r already on course to another 100+ posts today also but like this

post that is

> > > > NOT A ASTRO CONTENT, I hope we do return to the path chosen for the

group

> > > > if there r is topic running pl do start a thread to awakem/rejindle a

useful thread from any work or examples u have een in ur astrological study

journey plz...

> > > > lets make it a habit to stick to such paths occassional drift, a dose of

variety is fine

> > > > not the reverse of it.

> > > >

> > > > and pl do edit the threads suitable

> > > > it is misleading to still talk of movies, meera bhajans, hema malini etc

under

> > > >

> > > > " Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1 "

> > > >

> > > > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

January 17, 2010

Sorry Sir! It is ONLY available for the asking BUT absolutely for FREE.

I have observed out of academic interest some of the 'characters' on Internet

Jyotish domain for a long time, and have my reasons for that policy -- if you do

not mind! ;-)

Rohiniranjan

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> DEAR rrJI

>

> THIS WILL BE NICE IF U CAN GIVE A LINK TOT THE SAME HERE AND GROUP FILE LINKS

ALSO FOR EZ REF AND PPL CAN PICK a few pages for discussiion REGULALRY AND IN

CASE U HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ALREADY DONE BY OTHERS CAN ADD A SEPERATE REF TO

THE SAME WILL HELP PPL LEARN, UNDERSTAND BETTER

>

> SORRY ABT THE CAPS....just by oversight

>

> .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 5:05:28 AM

> Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01- more Jyotsh content plz

>

> Kumar ji,

>

> Unfortunately, Internet discussions -- in my observations -- have always

fallen short. It is too crowded, with too many levels of understanding or

application or even sincerity. The reason I keep repeating about 'rehashing' is

that for any serious treatment of the subject, discussion is not the way to go,

particularly when short attention spans and childish malice at heart and other

insecurities are involved and rampant.

>

> Anyways, I have been freely providing my primers (about 400 pages all told)

for a long long time. I do not feel it necessarily to copy and paste what has

already been written, available for FREE and way better than any patchy

conversational and discontinuous postings that jyotish discussion fora are

capable of, due to the format and other dynamics.

>

> Any sincere and serious members can write to me (use the send mail option) and

I will have those sent to them (5.66 MB attachments) as a gift.

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRJI

> >

> > even the great astrological magazine did reproduce some articles from the

past only way the newer generations will know about them

> >

> > so we can still bring back some old topics that have been well done, debated

in the past, this ppl like u who have been for ong in forums can say and lead we

can disagree on matters as it is natural to have the same or a different view

from the established but not something contradictory as KP does

> > one hand bash yogas, write works with Lagna or chandra as the basis and

still dismiss it midway the books withut clearing out the rubbish according to

them just lagna matters no longer chandra [if one of the 2 is strong]

> >

> > like wise on yogas , vargas they make a hue and cry yet some elements in

them use it and EVEN KP's books do quote of them so when we come up with strange

out of the box iceas it must be as said not confuse ppl

> >

> > we can have nwer topics also come in as many preceptions, professions have

added value to the LIVELIHOOD area of life so has marriage as a instution too

decline, become a contract/lease kind today so how Jyotish can guide, assist ppl

in need can be our focus on and there is enough of material amoung us on this

surely

> >

> > i am restating I am not usig anyones msg of attacking us but we can surely

keep such criticisms away, i am equally sure they also have a responsiblity to

the subject merely calling us a private chat room grp will not help if they love

Jyotish they can direct us from the erring course to our destination.

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, January 16, 2010 9:56:13 AM

> > Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01

> >

> > Dear Prashant_jee and others on this forum,

> >

> > I hear you! All of YOU, really! But here is my problem:

> >

> > What is this JYOTISH that you all want to hear and see, mostly, often,

sometimes? Is it merely REHASHED old writings and copy and paste segments from

published books that at least I have seen on other forums from Great Writers!

> >

> > Or does one want to read garbled, half-truths and indecipherable messages

poorly formatted and in some cases with 'Andaas' -- strange characters that get

in the way of the text and what one is trying to say for valid or invalid

reasons -- all justified, of course!

> >

> > There is PLENTY that has been written about jyotish and most of it is

available for free! But who has the time or SINCERITY to read?

> >

> > Someone burns the midnight oil and takes the time to post a painstakingly

written research article with lots and lots of examples and the half-baked

critics come out with their cocky attitudes and create more confusion because

they are half-cocked and have neither the ability or experience to write clearly

and in details! Or with examples!

> >

> > Friend or Foe, I challenge each and everyone of you to come forth and show

your brilliance and dedication and not the two or three syllable sentences that

you are capable of!

> >

> > The peanuts are on me if you manage to ...

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RRji

> > >

> > > thanks for the supprt/assurances and this was what I meant by my

posts/intervention I am as much worried like any member be it Gopu ji or anyone

when we drift too far from the subject and I AM NOT AVERSE TO DIVERSITY,

occassional does of fresh air, reliving moments either, which add spice to our

lives and the forum as well.

> > >

> > > But the need to bring back Jyotish center stage is our collective

respomsiblity, goal always and am happy to see VRY, Gulika etc and other

elements taking over the threat sun's placement. let the thread sutibly be

re-phrased in replies by members

> > >

> > > as always when I can add something i will surely do.as said i t is a

collective job. less of the moderator as a person, more as a fellow astrologer

is what I love to be seen doing. this is possible only witht he co-operation of

one and all.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 8:58:15 AM

> > > Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01

> > >

> > > Prashant_jee,

> > >

> > > I was not trying to force you to write etc. It is good to hear that there

are so many of us volunteers who pitch in, and can help this forum.

> > >

> > > Please take your time and never feel pressed to write or lead any threads

or discussion. This is a very democratic and compared to many others, a very

civil and mostly affectionate forum. Yes we have banters and some trouble-makers

who hardly ever contribute anything meaningless other than their personal angst

cropping up and so on, but even the deadliest malaria-bearing mosquitos can be

thwarted through well-known preventive measures!

> > >

> > > NOT TO WORRY ONE BIT SIR!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear RRji,

> > > >

> > > > I hope know my answer even before I reply.

> > > >

> > > > 1 that whenever I find time I have certainly not shyed away from

sharing what i know recent one on Eclipses even y'day is a case in point.

> > > > 2. where i can't fill in i have solicited help from members like u,

krishna ji, Suresh babu ji, M tripathi ji, rafel g, , though others like Gopu,

Nikit, anup, gaurav ghosh ... also did their bit on and off.

> > > > 3. my time constraints I have been sharing with some of the seniors

privately and NOT MUCH has changed, whatever time I get am surely doing what i

can, my reading of queries itself has dropped in the past 2 yrs plus as much as

I like to keep it on a good level.

> > > > 4, previously cooking i had options of doing it on and off m now full

time. esp no salt, no oils stuff for my mother and the rest me, father normal

stuff my niece is here on a holiday got stuck in the situation inbetwen that

came in and have still maanaged to give her the best time, attn i can within my

limits a week more to go hope to make it a better visit, and repeat one next

summer from Down Under.

> > > > 5. i have stepped in only when someone or other has pointed out to a

drift, abuse or a drag or snags in postings from itself kind, never pushed

any agenda or been doing what is not in the best interests of the group, JYOTISH

AT LARGE.

> > > > 5, i will still try to put in some new threads when there is a drift,

LET ME WORK ON THEM but need some continuity from others as well

> > > >

> > > > 5a. 2 news items of interest to astrology y'day also DID NOT get a

single reply

> > > > retrogression of Mars, and MP in UK who used astrology effectively

unlike the hypocrites or pseudo secular politicians of India

> > > > regards/

> > > >

> > > > 5b. but with ur rich experience and yrs in diff forums u can LEAD THE

WAY surely we r behind u, assure u of support as well.

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 8:32:35 AM

> > > > Re: another 100+ day ?... 16/01

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant jee,

> > > >

> > > > Please do not take this the wrong way!

> > > >

> > > > Since you have been forced into this moderator role by some

NAUGHTY/NUTTY elements, you have stopped posting any astrological posts!

> > > >

> > > > Avoid these intentional distractions from Trojans who prey on your

wonderful inner self and instead show us your wonderful astrological self! I am

counting on that! You are a wonderful moderator and a beautiful soul!! Now SHOW

it!!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mebers,

> > > > >

> > > > > We r already on course to another 100+ posts today also but like this

post that is

> > > > > NOT A ASTRO CONTENT, I hope we do return to the path chosen for the

group

> > > > > if there r is topic running pl do start a thread to awakem/rejindle a

useful thread from any work or examples u have een in ur astrological study

journey plz...

> > > > > lets make it a habit to stick to such paths occassional drift, a dose

of variety is fine

> > > > > not the reverse of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > and pl do edit the threads suitable

> > > > > it is misleading to still talk of movies, meera bhajans, hema malini

etc under

> > > > >

> > > > > " Re: Sun's Placement ! 12/1 "

> > > > >

> > > > > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

January 17, 2010

Dear RRji

I hope u can send me the same to my ID privately, irrespective of the time he

have spent in the subject any info is knowledge will take time out and read them

gbp_kumar

thanks

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Sun, January 17, 2010 8:29:44 AM

Re: freely providing my primers (about 400 pages all told) FOR

more Jyotsh content plz