Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Members, Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) RR_, , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > Lilly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Member, Basically it is one of the house requiring sacrifice and is of moksha sthan..Provides a insight to better his/her aspiration.It is no doubt mysterious house as a secret house.If one can successful analyse 8th house in any chart,the rest of the aspect of any event can easily be understood and anlysed.Beauty or other wise,one has to take up issues with a plain and sincere outlook towrds this hosue aprt from all other issues of jyotish. Vedic Jyotish concepts require proper initiaton apart from one's own interest to understand various complex issues relating to palnets,destiny and Dhrma.As part of 12 houses of 8th house is prominent for longevity purpose.For female horoscopes it promotes her style of life and increases security concerns and gives satisfacton of her womanhood. 8th house is not dreaded house nor it's dasa.It goes with the label of malefic house.benifics of 8th reduce malefic effects and promote 8th relating to ayush and for a woman as 2nd 2 7th help in prosperity.Being a secret house and in kalpurusha assigned the role of generative organs.it has many good things.As 12th to 9th a Dharma house.can make the native to keep him evn spirtual to ward off problems and to enhance moral strength.8th is also 4th to 4th and the signification are never too harsh for anlysis.It has also other issues which perhaps take away patience if under problems and under sufferings Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 The beauty of 8th house! Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:12 PM  Dear Members, Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > RR_, > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > Lilly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Lilly, I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Lilly, > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! RR , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > Lilly > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 A misleading header/thread and airing views like://good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body// These r convictions of people right or wrong.Not certainly what learners have to b concerned and for other knowledgeable Jyotishis to address.JR's ideals have to main concerns to serve members with honest and sincere approach to stand by them and help them to come out of their hardships. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: The beauty of 8th house! Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:38 PM  Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > RR_, > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > Lilly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Have you seen this art movie directed by Deepa Mehta " WATERS " dealing with such social issues..The movie dealt with what happened to widows and took you back to the 40's of India. The movie opened in the Toronto International Film Festival and was voted the top ten movies in Canada (2005). Ok, I am going off topic again..Will stop now.. Lilly , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > Lilly > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 not a proper reference to deal in JR Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: The beauty of 8th house! Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:12 PM  Have you seen this art movie directed by Deepa Mehta " WATERS " dealing with such social issues..The movie dealt with what happened to widows and took you back to the 40's of India. The movie opened in the Toronto International Film Festival and was voted the top ten movies in Canada (2005). Ok, I am going off topic again..Will stop now.. Lilly , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > Lilly > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 How about that movie about a Psychic? Whats'er name now ... Juhi Chawlaa (?)... Every astrologer MUST see it! Kismet Konnection, if I recall correctly!! RR , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > not a proper reference to deal in JR > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:12 PM > > >  > > > > > Have you seen this art movie directed by Deepa Mehta " WATERS " dealing with such social issues..The movie dealt with what happened to widows and took you back to the 40's of India. The movie opened in the Toronto International Film Festival and was voted the top ten movies in Canada (2005). > > Ok, I am going off topic again..Will stop now.. > Lilly > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 We(the JR group) are not into BOLLY filams. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > How about that movie about a Psychic? Whats'er name now ... Juhi Chawlaa (?)... > > Every astrologer MUST see it! Kismet Konnection, if I recall correctly!! > > RR > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > not a proper reference to deal in JR > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:12 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Have you seen this art movie directed by Deepa Mehta " WATERS " dealing with such social issues..The movie dealt with what happened to widows and took you back to the 40's of India. The movie opened in the Toronto International Film Festival and was voted the top ten movies in Canada (2005). > > > > Ok, I am going off topic again..Will stop now.. > > Lilly > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Meaningful logic if understood in proper perspective.Issue rferred in Daksha yagna/ relating Sita jiSati Savitri known as Pativrata and one among to be equated with reverred Devi Ahalya are karan janmas.Their analogy with the caption as given has no relevance.Persistence finds only to resolve curiosity but not of concern for many other members. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: The beauty of 8th house! Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:15 PM  Wasn't SATI the lady who brought her husband back to life with her power of devotion, bahkti, and sincerity as the hindu mythology goes.. Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > A misleading header/thread and airing views like://good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body// > These r convictions of people right or wrong.Not certainly what learners have to b concerned and for other knowledgeable Jyotishis to address.JR's ideals have to main concerns to serve members with honest and sincere approach to stand by them and help them to come out of their hardships. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:38 PM > > >  > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives...Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Sometimes a Metaphor becomes a historical incident, Dada! Like some of the combinations in Bhanumati kaa Astro-Pitaara! , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Meaningful logic if understood in proper perspective.Issue rferred in Daksha yagna/ relating Sita jiSati Savitri known as Pativrata and one among to be equated with reverred Devi Ahalya are karan janmas.Their analogy with the caption as given has no relevance.Persistence finds only to resolve curiosity but not of concern for many other members. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:15 PM > > >  > > > > > Wasn't SATI the lady who brought her husband back to life with her power of devotion, bahkti, and sincerity as the hindu mythology goes.. > > Lilly > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > A misleading header/thread and airing views like://good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body// > > These r convictions of people right or wrong.Not certainly what learners have to b concerned and for other knowledgeable Jyotishis to address.JR's ideals have to main concerns to serve members with honest and sincere approach to stand by them and help them to come out of their hardships. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 10:38 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives...Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Prashant, Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM Re: The beauty of 8th house! Â OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! RR , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > Lilly > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 MAYA Teray kitnay ROOP! Astrology of PADAS and three types of KARAKAs and a human and a keeta sign ruled by two planets, and the symbolisms that are common across the vargas while the planet alone remains true and real (whether in Kshetra or no matter which other varga...!), as long as one is using Drig calculations such as NASA JPL routines and Swiss Ephemeries, although a few question those conventions as we all have seen! What more does one need, to give Jyotish the Academy Awards of BEST MAYA BUSTER? Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > We(the JR group) are not into BOLLY filams. > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > How about that movie about a Psychic? Whats'er name now ... Juhi Chawlaa (?)... > > > > Every astrologer MUST see it! Kismet Konnection, if I recall correctly!! > > > > RR > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > not a proper reference to deal in JR > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > Saturday, January 16, 2010, 11:12 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you seen this art movie directed by Deepa Mehta " WATERS " dealing with such social issues..The movie dealt with what happened to widows and took you back to the 40's of India. The movie opened in the Toronto International Film Festival and was voted the top ten movies in Canada (2005). > > > > > > Ok, I am going off topic again..Will stop now.. > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Thanks Manoj ji Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > Â > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Sharma Ji, A Humble request! I can see your frustration, but please don't loose your cool as everyone deserves a chance. We are all hear to learn, and contribute whatever little we know in this great forum. People have different ways to express themselves, so not everyone's post will make sense to us..If something is bothering please politely address it to the individual. Lilly , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > Â > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Rohiniranjan, As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. Please stop this nonsense; will you.... ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Thanks Manoj ji Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Prashant, > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dear Manoj_jee, A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! Best Regards, Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Rohiniranjan, > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Thanks Manoj ji > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > RR > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... ms ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Dear Manoj_jee, A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! Best Regards, Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Rohiniranjan, > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Thanks Manoj ji > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > RR > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > Best Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... ________________________________ Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > Best Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > ms > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Dear Manoj_jee, > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > Best Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! BRAVO! , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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