Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ...! RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > ________________________________ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ...! RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ...! > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 my apoloiges; it was again a typo; retarted=retarded, lest you will again point out " did you mean retarded " ? as retarded as you are... ________________________________ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:28 AM Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!  As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ...! RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! BRAVO! , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole ms ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > ms > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 You did not really mean, " Take him out " , did you! WOW -- SERIOUS LANGUAGE!! , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! > > BRAVO! > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 WELCOME TO SANTA CLAUS! <HOHOHO!> :-) , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > ms > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 on a serious note, why not amend your ways Rohiniranjan. I thought Jyotisha makes people very humble and good jyotisha understand people's sufferings. However, you claim to be " dedicated to jyotisha " , and you still do whatever you are doing (I am at loss of words in explaining your conduct). Or is it because you yourself had a very good life, good career (if that professorial job you find it very good and cost and cashy), you think you have all the right to ridicule people ! Karmas fella karmas...will come back to haunt you one day; perhaps not in this life, but definitely in the next one...rohiniranjan you know better than me...don't you???? ms ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:25:49 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ...! > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 you don't talk about language...your language is so sick! ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:35:07 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  You did not really mean, " Take him out " , did you! WOW -- SERIOUS LANGUAGE!! , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! > > BRAVO! > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Go to sleep or the kid would have to wake you up, rather than the other way around as young parents should :-) It is about duty!! RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > on a serious note, why not amend your ways Rohiniranjan. I thought Jyotisha makes people very humble and good jyotisha understand people's sufferings. However, you claim to be " dedicated to jyotisha " , and you still do whatever you are doing (I am at loss of words in explaining your conduct). Or is it because you yourself had a very good life, good career (if that professorial job you find it very good and cost and cashy), you think you have all the right to ridicule people ! Karmas fella karmas...will come back to haunt you one day; perhaps not in this life, but definitely in the next one...rohiniranjan you know better than me...don't you???? > ms > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:25:49 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ....! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I must say now, Well said! Have a Good Night... ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:40:19 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Go to sleep or the kid would have to wake you up, rather than the other way around as young parents should :-) It is about duty!! RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > on a serious note, why not amend your ways Rohiniranjan. I thought Jyotisha makes people very humble and good jyotisha understand people's sufferings. However, you claim to be " dedicated to jyotisha " , and you still do whatever you are doing (I am at loss of words in explaining your conduct). Or is it because you yourself had a very good life, good career (if that professorial job you find it very good and cost and cashy), you think you have all the right to ridicule people ! Karmas fella karmas...will come back to haunt you one day; perhaps not in this life, but definitely in the next one...rohiniranjan you know better than me...don't you???? > ms > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:25:49 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ....! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 OOPS! Please do not get sick HERE please...! The bathroom is right over there...! Karma, my dear friend is always about MIRROR! Please ask your Teacher and HE will tell you ...! My best wishes to you and HAPPY DREAMS! Rise and Shine with the SUN tomorrow and let another wonderful day begin...! :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > you don't talk about language...your language is so sick! > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:35:07 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > You did not really mean, " Take him out " , did you! WOW -- SERIOUS LANGUAGE!! > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! > > > > BRAVO! > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Finally, you agreed, ONCE AGAIN...! ;-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > I must say now, Well said! Have a Good Night... > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:40:19 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Go to sleep or the kid would have to wake you up, rather than the other way around as young parents should :-) > > It is about duty!! > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > on a serious note, why not amend your ways Rohiniranjan. I thought Jyotisha makes people very humble and good jyotisha understand people's sufferings. However, you claim to be " dedicated to jyotisha " , and you still do whatever you are doing (I am at loss of words in explaining your conduct). Or is it because you yourself had a very good life, good career (if that professorial job you find it very good and cost and cashy), you think you have all the right to ridicule people ! Karmas fella karmas...will come back to haunt you one day; perhaps not in this life, but definitely in the next one...rohiniranjan you know better than me...don't you???? > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:25:49 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ....! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 my teacher is none other than Lord Mahadev; and that is precisely the reason I have strength to fight demons (I am not saying demons like you)... ms ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:45:32 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  OOPS! Please do not get sick HERE please...! The bathroom is right over there...! Karma, my dear friend is always about MIRROR! Please ask your Teacher and HE will tell you ...! My best wishes to you and HAPPY DREAMS! Rise and Shine with the SUN tomorrow and let another wonderful day begin...! :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > you don't talk about language...your language is so sick! > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:35:07 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > You did not really mean, " Take him out " , did you! WOW -- SERIOUS LANGUAGE!! > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! > > > > BRAVO! > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I am not dheet; if you have antying that makes sense, I will lap it up...but I have no appetite for nonsense... ms  ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:46:49 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  Finally, you agreed, ONCE AGAIN...! ;-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > I must say now, Well said! Have a Good Night... > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:40:19 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Go to sleep or the kid would have to wake you up, rather than the other way around as young parents should :-) > > It is about duty!! > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > on a serious note, why not amend your ways Rohiniranjan. I thought Jyotisha makes people very humble and good jyotisha understand people's sufferings. However, you claim to be " dedicated to jyotisha " , and you still do whatever you are doing (I am at loss of words in explaining your conduct). Or is it because you yourself had a very good life, good career (if that professorial job you find it very good and cost and cashy), you think you have all the right to ridicule people ! Karmas fella karmas...will come back to haunt you one day; perhaps not in this life, but definitely in the next one...rohiniranjan you know better than me...don't you???? > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:25:49 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ....! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 NOW you have really broken my heart " DADA/BHAI " by saying that -- ;-) , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > my teacher is none other than Lord Mahadev; and that is precisely the reason I have strength to fight demons (I am not saying demons like you)... > ms > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:45:32 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > OOPS! Please do not get sick HERE please...! The bathroom is right over there...! > > Karma, my dear friend is always about MIRROR! > > Please ask your Teacher and HE will tell you ...! > > My best wishes to you and HAPPY DREAMS! Rise and Shine with the SUN tomorrow and let another wonderful day begin...! :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > you don't talk about language...your language is so sick! > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:35:07 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > You did not really mean, " Take him out " , did you! WOW -- SERIOUS LANGUAGE!! > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! > > > > > > BRAVO! > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 have a good night... ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, January 17, 2010 12:59:54 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house!  NOW you have really broken my heart " DADA/BHAI " by saying that -- ;-) , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > my teacher is none other than Lord Mahadev; and that is precisely the reason I have strength to fight demons (I am not saying demons like you)... > ms > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:45:32 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > OOPS! Please do not get sick HERE please...! The bathroom is right over there...! > > Karma, my dear friend is always about MIRROR! > > Please ask your Teacher and HE will tell you ...! > > My best wishes to you and HAPPY DREAMS! Rise and Shine with the SUN tomorrow and let another wonderful day begin...! :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > you don't talk about language...your language is so sick! > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:35:07 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > You did not really mean, " Take him out " , did you! WOW -- SERIOUS LANGUAGE!! > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > now i am really going to sleep; you have played your innings and now are walking into sunset--or almost. I have a kid and I really need to go to sleep because I have to take him out early morning tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:18:40 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > AMMA sent BAD Dada to his room to SLEEP ...! > > > > > > BRAVO! > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 You are tired, overworked, upset and angry, Manoj_bhai! But at the wrong person for the wrong reason! :-( Be well and wake up early! Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > I am not dheet; if you have antying that makes sense, I will lap it up...but I have no appetite for nonsense... > ms > >  > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:46:49 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Finally, you agreed, ONCE AGAIN...! ;-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > I must say now, Well said! Have a Good Night... > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:40:19 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Go to sleep or the kid would have to wake you up, rather than the other way around as young parents should :-) > > > > It is about duty!! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > on a serious note, why not amend your ways Rohiniranjan. I thought Jyotisha makes people very humble and good jyotisha understand people's sufferings. However, you claim to be " dedicated to jyotisha " , and you still do whatever you are doing (I am at loss of words in explaining your conduct). Or is it because you yourself had a very good life, good career (if that professorial job you find it very good and cost and cashy), you think you have all the right to ridicule people ! Karmas fella karmas...will come back to haunt you one day; perhaps not in this life, but definitely in the next one...rohiniranjan you know better than me...don't you???? > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:25:49 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Did you mean to spell it " retarDed " , DADA/BHAI? > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > As I always suspected, you are mentally retarted; you really think this time is early to bed???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:19:45 AM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Early to bed, early to rise, makes a DADA/BHAI healthy, wealthy and wise ....! > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, Amma, I heed to your advice and I am going to sleep... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:07:19 AM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > STOP it children! I can't stand to see people fight..Enough with this childish MAYAvi game.. WE have better things to do on this group- LEARN JOYthisha! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 You're a bit too predictable - the use of the " M " word (and I don't mean " Manoj " , which isn't your real name, as most of us know!) - and the " F " word - following your usual pattern ....now it was a little silly using those 2 words, as you've spoilt enough lists using them, wasn't it?? Interesting how you suddenly came - and left the instant I hinted WHO you were to the list - but I'm sure you'll be " gracing " us with your presence with yet another alias in the near future - but a tip! Don't use the M and F words in your next " list incarnation " - the limited language leads right back to...you! ======== - Manoj Sharma Monday, January 18, 2010 12:07 AM Fw: Re: The beauty of 8th house! Again Sateesh's private mail to me...and of course my response ----- Forwarded Message ---- Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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