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MS

 

i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

 

Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

 

MS,

 

whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

 

now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

where is the 8th house here

 

I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

this holds good for u too

 

same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

 

kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private

chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

 

on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable,

I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

 

i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

 

don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

 

- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

 

if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

ms

 

____________ _________ _________ __

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

Re: The beauty of 8th house!

 

We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

 

RR_,

 

, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> ms

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> Â

> Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

>

> Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

>

> Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more

nonsense then you...

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Dear Manoj_jee,

> >

> > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> >

> > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> >

> > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> >

> > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest

members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help

people in dire straits.

> > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂÂ

> > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > >

> > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the

emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was

incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like

Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post

any frivolous postings...

> > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > >

> > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman!

No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends

with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to

kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years

ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the

burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at

scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no!

It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the

houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th

:-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life

(if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle

that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the

wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > >

> > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > >

> > > >

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The choice is easy!

 

Responsibility (KID that needs a ride come morning!) or Reluctance (to go to

sleep and get the rest that you deserve!).

 

I am working tonight, and already got my rest earlier this afternoon!

 

Just being honest and transparent! :-)

 

You are a good man -- we all like you! Go to bed :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

wrote:

>

> Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>  

> MS,

>

> whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

>

> now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> where is the 8th house here

>

> I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> this holds good for u too

>

> same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

>

> kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

>

> on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

>

> i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

>

> don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> ms

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > Â

> > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> >

> > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> >

> > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > >

> > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > >

> > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> > >

> > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > >

> > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > >

> > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > >

> > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck

at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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sure it will prashant bhai...i live in toronto

ms

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 1:03:40 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

 

MS

 

i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

MS,

 

whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

 

now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

where is the 8th house here

 

I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

this holds good for u too

 

same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

 

kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private

chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

 

on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable,

I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

 

i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

 

don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

 

- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

 

if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

ms

 

____________ _________ _________ __

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

Re: The beauty of 8th house!

 

We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

 

RR_,

 

, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> ms

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> Â

> Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

>

> Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

>

> Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more

nonsense then you...

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Dear Manoj_jee,

> >

> > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> >

> > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> >

> > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> >

> > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest

members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help

people in dire straits.

> > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂÂ

> > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > >

> > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the

emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was

incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like

Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post

any frivolous postings...

> > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > >

> > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman!

No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends

with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to

kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years

ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the

burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at

scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no!

It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the

houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th

:-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life

(if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle

that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the

wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > >

> > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > >

> > > >

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We should have lunch one of these days :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

wrote:

>

> that's an elder brotherly advice...and I will surely listen to that...

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 1:04:24 AM

> Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>  

> The choice is easy!

>

> Responsibility (KID that needs a ride come morning!) or Reluctance (to go to

sleep and get the rest that you deserve!).

>

> I am working tonight, and already got my rest earlier this afternoon!

>

> Just being honest and transparent! :-)

>

> You are a good man -- we all like you! Go to bed :-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >  

> > MS,

> >

> > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep

now.

> >

> > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> > where is the 8th house here

> >

> > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > this holds good for u too

> >

> > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> >

> > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

> >

> > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> >

> > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless,

and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> >

> > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a

mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > ms

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of

these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum

knows about it....

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > >

> > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > >

> > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > > ms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > >

> > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > >

> > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you

mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At

least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

‚

> > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not

peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for

a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used

to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent

woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough

and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise

you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

Santhosh

 

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

 

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

MS

 

i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

 

Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

 

MS,

 

whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

 

now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

where is the 8th house here

 

I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

this holds good for u too

 

same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

 

kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private

chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

 

on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable,

I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

 

i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

 

don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

 

- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

 

________________________________

Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

 

if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

ms

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

Re: The beauty of 8th house!

 

We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

 

RR_,

 

, Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> ms

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> Â

> Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

>

> Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

>

> Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more

nonsense then you...

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > ÂÂ

> > Dear Manoj_jee,

> >

> > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> >

> > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> >

> > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> >

> > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> >

> > Best Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest

members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help

people in dire straits.

> > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂÂ

> > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > >

> > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the

emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was

incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like

Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post

any frivolous postings...

> > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >________________________________

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ

> > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > >

> > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman!

No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends

with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to

kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years

ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the

burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at

scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no!

It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the

houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th

:-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life

(if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle

that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the

wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >________

> > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > >

> > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > >

> > > >

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But the 8th also holds the KUNDALINI! ;-)

 

Not a beast (TYPO!) but be the best insect that one can be! :-)

 

Some Schools have seen the insect, the Eagle and the Dove, all rolled into the

randhra, as some still choose to call it.

 

Even those who have so brilliantly dissected perception from the obvious! <too

mystical for you, Santhosh jee ...?>

 

AND how come YOU are not asleep yet? ;-)

 

Regards -- and Thanks!!

 

RR_,

 

, santhosh10 wrote:

>

> This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

> Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

>

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> MS

>

> i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

>

> ________________________________

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> MS,

>

> whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

>

> now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> where is the 8th house here

>

> I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> this holds good for u too

>

> same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

>

> kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

>

> on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

>

> i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

>

> don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> ms

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > Â

> > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> >

> > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> >

> > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > >

> > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > >

> > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> > >

> > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > >

> > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >________________________________

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > >

> > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________________________________

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > >

> > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck

at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________

> > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Only what pkt wrote used to be mystical for me. Miss all the exotic buildings

and roads. Sleep at noon??? I sleep only at night.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

 

 

" rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:28:34

 

Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

But the 8th also holds the KUNDALINI! ;-)

 

Not a beast (TYPO!) but be the best insect that one can be! :-)

 

Some Schools have seen the insect, the Eagle and the Dove, all rolled into the

randhra, as some still choose to call it.

 

Even those who have so brilliantly dissected perception from the obvious! <too

mystical for you, Santhosh jee ...?>

 

AND how come YOU are not asleep yet? ;-)

 

Regards -- and Thanks!!

 

RR_,

 

, santhosh10 wrote:

>

> This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

> Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

>

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> MS

>

> i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

>

>________________________________

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> MS,

>

> whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

>

> now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> where is the 8th house here

>

> I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> this holds good for u too

>

> same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

>

> kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

>

> on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

>

> i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

>

> don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>________________________________

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> ms

>

>________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > Â

> > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> >

> > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> >

> > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > >

> > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > >

> > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> > >

> > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > >

> > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >________________________________

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > >

> > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________________________________

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > >

> > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck

at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________

> > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Who is " pkt " ?

 

You are now beginning to worry me, a bit! <<NOT!>>

 

Napoleon the great Libra Bone-Apart used to take a 'nap' even in the midst of a

battle-field behind a Cannon!

 

Libra is so interesting! It brings into play the dramas of Napoleon, Akbar,

Hitler and Gandhijee, and many other 'JEES' more modern!

 

Where the balance " HANGS " as many believe...! ;-)

 

RR_,

 

, santhosh10 wrote:

>

> Only what pkt wrote used to be mystical for me. Miss all the exotic buildings

and roads. Sleep at noon??? I sleep only at night.

>

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

> Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:28:34

>

> Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> But the 8th also holds the KUNDALINI! ;-)

>

> Not a beast (TYPO!) but be the best insect that one can be! :-)

>

> Some Schools have seen the insect, the Eagle and the Dove, all rolled into the

randhra, as some still choose to call it.

>

> Even those who have so brilliantly dissected perception from the obvious! <too

mystical for you, Santhosh jee ...?>

>

> AND how come YOU are not asleep yet? ;-)

>

> Regards -- and Thanks!!

>

> RR_,

>

> , santhosh10@ wrote:

> >

> > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@>

> > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> >

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> > MS

> >

> > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I

wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> >

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >

> > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> >

> >________________________________

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >

> > MS,

> >

> > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep

now.

> >

> > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> > where is the 8th house here

> >

> > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > this holds good for u too

> >

> > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> >

> > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

> >

> > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> >

> > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless,

and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> >

> > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a

mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >________________________________

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > ms

> >

> >________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of

these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum

knows about it....

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > >

> > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > >

> > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > > ms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >________________________________

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÂÂ

> > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > >

> > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > >

> > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you

mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________________________________

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At

least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >________________________________

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not

peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for

a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used

to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent

woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough

and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise

you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >________

> > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with

the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

 

Lilly

 

, santhosh10 wrote:

 

> This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

> Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

>

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> MS

>

> i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

>

> ________________________________

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> MS,

>

> whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

>

> now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> where is the 8th house here

>

> I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> this holds good for u too

>

> same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

>

> kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

>

> on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

>

> i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

>

> don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> ms

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows

about it....

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >________________________________

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > Â

> > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> >

> > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> >

> > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >________________________________

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > >

> > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > >

> > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> > >

> > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > >

> > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >________________________________

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > >

> > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________________________________

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > >

> > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck

at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >________

> > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with

the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

 

Lilly

 

, santhosh10@. .. wrote:

 

> This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> Santhosh

>

> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

> Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> <>

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> MS

>

> i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish

the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

>

> G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

>

> MS,

>

> whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now.

>

> now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> where is the 8th house here

>

> I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> this holds good for u too

>

> same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

>

> kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

>

> on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

>

> i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and

personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

>

> don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix

we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

>

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> ms

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> Re: The beauty of 8th house!

>

> We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these

days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST

FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you

COME? :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum

knows about it....

> > ms

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > Â

> > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> >

> > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> >

> > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > >

> > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > >

> > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean,

" Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-)

> > >

> > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > >

> > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded

to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to

my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very

dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ÂÂ

> > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > >

> > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least

you were paying attention ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\

‚

> > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > >

> > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck

at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a

woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to

be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman

and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and

even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you!

:-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > >

> > > > >

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So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it

is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support

as 2nd from 7th house.

 

Lilly

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005

> Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha)

with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

>

> Lilly

>

> , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

>

> > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > <>

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> > MS

> >

> > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I

wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >

> > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >

> > MS,

> >

> > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep

now.

> >

> > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> > where is the 8th house here

> >

> > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > this holds good for u too

> >

> > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> >

> > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

> >

> > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> >

> > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless,

and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> >

> > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a

mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > ms

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of

these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum

knows about it....

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > >

> > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > >

> > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > > ms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > >

> > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > >

> > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you

mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At

least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\

‚

> > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not

peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for

a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used

to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent

woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough

and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise

you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

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score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava

concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better

judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes

into the bahavs and signs with lordships

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it

is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support

as 2nd from 7th house.

 

Lilly

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha)

with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

>

> Lilly

>

> , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

>

> > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much

acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a

typo)

> > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > Santhosh

> >

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > <>

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> > MS

> >

> > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I

wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

> >

> > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >

> > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> >

> > MS,

> >

> > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep

now.

> >

> > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator

also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads

> > where is the 8th house here

> >

> > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and

still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > this holds good for u too

> >

> > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> >

> > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

> >

> > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> >

> > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless,

and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> >

> > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a

mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

> >

> > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > ms

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >

> > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> >

> > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of

these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole

forum knows about it....

> > > ms

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > >

> > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the

Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > >

> > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate

more nonsense then you...

> > > > ms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > >

> > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > >

> > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you

mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint!

:-)

> > > >

> > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At

least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading

the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this

was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people

like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to

post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this

email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\

Â

> > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the

wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be

united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not

peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or

learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for

a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used

to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent

woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough

and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and

Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against

the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck

no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is

the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and

7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long

life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise

you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the

right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our

lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > > >

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All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work,

patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan.

 

Lilly

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava

concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better

judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes

into the bahavs and signs with lordships

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005

> Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

>

> Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as

it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial

support as 2nd from 7th house.

>

> Lilly

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha)

with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

> >

> > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so

much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not

a typo)

> > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for

demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > >

> > >

> > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > > <>

> > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > >

> > > MS

> > >

> > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I

wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > >

> > >

> > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > >

> > >

> > > MS,

> > >

> > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep

now.

> > >

> > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a

moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses

[threads

> > > where is the 8th house here

> > >

> > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it

and still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > > this holds good for u too

> > >

> > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> > >

> > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

> > >

> > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> > >

> > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless,

and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> > >

> > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a

mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy

limit

> > >

> > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > > ms

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > >

> > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of

these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The

whole forum knows about it....

> > > > ms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > > >

> > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in

the Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > > >

> > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can

perpetuate more nonsense then you...

> > > > > ms

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you

mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint!

:-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At

least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of

reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever

since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and

respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell

this guy not to post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to

this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum

Physics!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in

the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and

politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to

be united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying

devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old

rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of

her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not

peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed

or learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya

for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man

used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the

innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times --

often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days!

Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that

movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death!

Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It

is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd

and 7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a

long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise

you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all

the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of

our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/

> > > > > > >

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Lilly,

 

You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has 22

AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic

than OBAMA? :-)

 

I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the wall

(one factor astrology!)

 

RR_,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work,

patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan.

>

> Lilly

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> >

> > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava

concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better

judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes

into the bahavs and signs with lordships

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@>

> > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> >

> > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as

it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial

support as 2nd from 7th house.

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

> > >

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha)

with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

> > >

> > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so

much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not

a typo)

> > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members

for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > > > <>

> > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > >

> > > > MS

> > > >

> > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but

I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > MS,

> > > >

> > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to

sleep now.

> > > >

> > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a

moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses

[threads

> > > > where is the 8th house here

> > > >

> > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it

and still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > > > this holds good for u too

> > > >

> > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> > > >

> > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a

private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most

consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works

hard

> > > >

> > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> > > >

> > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting

substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> > > >

> > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have

a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a

healthy limit

> > > >

> > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > > > ms

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > >

> > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of

these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The

whole forum knows about it....

> > > > > ms

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > > > >

> > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in

the Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > > > >

> > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can

perpetuate more nonsense then you...

> > > > > > ms

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you

mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint!

:-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think

everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of

nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At

least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of

reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever

since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and

respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell

this guy not to post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to

this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he

deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum

Physics!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in

the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning

joytisha!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a

woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy

and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes

to be united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her

undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good

old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity

of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not

peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed

or learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya

for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man

used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the

innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times --

often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days!

Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that

movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death!

Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It

is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd

and 7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a

long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I

promise you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all

the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of

our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!

> > > > > > > >

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Please don't compare my chart to some great man!! There is a difference of ASMAN

& PATAL between our lives..Mr. President may have less AV points in some houses,

but he definitely has " special yoga's " to get him at this post..How can a man

achieve such heights of success without the chart promising it?

 

Lilly

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has

22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic

than OBAMA? :-)

>

> I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the

wall (one factor astrology!)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard

work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan.

> >

> > Lilly

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote:

> > >

> > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava

concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better

judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes

into the bahavs and signs with lordships

> > >

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@>

> > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner

as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial

support as 2nd from 7th house.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal

avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it

so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time

not a typo)

> > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members

for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > > > > <>

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > > MS

> > > > >

> > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever

but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I

guess

> > > > >

> > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > MS,

> > > > >

> > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to

sleep now.

> > > > >

> > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a

moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses

[threads

> > > > > where is the 8th house here

> > > > >

> > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in

it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > > > > this holds good for u too

> > > > >

> > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> > > > >

> > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming

a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the

most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length

works hard

> > > > >

> > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> > > > >

> > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting

substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> > > > >

> > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro.

have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a

healthy limit

> > > > >

> > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > > > > ms

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one

of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The

whole forum knows about it....

> > > > > > ms

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name

in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can

perpetuate more nonsense then you...

> > > > > > > ms

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did

you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my

viewpoint! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I

think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some

of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'!

At least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of

reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever

since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and

respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell

this guy not to post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond

to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action,

he deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum

Physics!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed

in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in

learning joytisha!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be

a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy

and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes

to be united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her

undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good

old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity

of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

" rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and

not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you

claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of

Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days

when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on

the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times --

often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days!

Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that

movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of

death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The

Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas

-- 2nd and 7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a

long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I

promise you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for

all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects

of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

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Yet another illustration of one factor can be deceptive...!

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> Please don't compare my chart to some great man!! There is a difference of

ASMAN & PATAL between our lives..Mr. President may have less AV points in some

houses, but he definitely has " special yoga's " to get him at this post..How can

a man achieve such heights of success without the chart promising it?

>

> Lilly

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly,

> >

> > You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack

has 22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more

charismatic than OBAMA? :-)

> >

> > I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the

wall (one factor astrology!)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard

work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava

concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better

judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes

into the bahavs and signs with lordships

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@>

> > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage

partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for

financial support as 2nd from 7th house.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@

...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them "

> > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal

avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it

so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time

not a typo)

> > > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable

members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is

definitely a beauty and a beast bhava.

> > > > > > Santhosh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > > > > > <>

> > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MS

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever

but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I

guess

> > > > > >

> > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MS,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to

sleep now.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a

moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses

[threads

> > > > > > where is the 8th house here

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction

in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > > > > > this holds good for u too

> > > > > >

> > > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR

becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has

been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the

same length works hard

> > > > > >

> > > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting

substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> > > > > >

> > > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro.

have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a

healthy limit

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > > > > > ms

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one

of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚

The whole forum knows about it....

> > > > > > > ms

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your

name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can

perpetuate more nonsense then you...

> > > > > > > > ms

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did

you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my

viewpoint! :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I

think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to

some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are

trying to help people in dire straits.

> > > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as

'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of

reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever

since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and

respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell

this guy not to post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond

to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action,

he deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\

ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum

Physics!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed

in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in

learning joytisha!!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to

be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband

that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when

she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not

too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who

escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so

BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for

them!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social

policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs

aroused again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women

wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her

undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good

old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity

of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,

" rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and

not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you

claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of

Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days

when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on

the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times --

often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days!

Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that

movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of

death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The

Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas

-- 2nd and 7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives

a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the

KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I

promise you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for

all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects

of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

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True chart may promise many things to attain dizzy heights.Yet 8th remains as

8th.Low scores of 8th is not uncommon.Iam no eception to number less than 21.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

 

Sunday, January 17, 2010, 1:34 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please don't compare my chart to some great man!! There is a difference of ASMAN

& PATAL between our lives..Mr. President may have less AV points in some houses,

but he definitely has " special yoga's " to get him at this post...How can a man

achieve such heights of success without the chart promising it?

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....>

wrote:

>

> Lilly,

>

> You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has

22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic

than OBAMA? :-)

>

> I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the

wall (one factor astrology!)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> >

> >

> > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard

work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan.

> >

> > Lilly

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava

concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better

judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes

into the bahavs and signs with lordships

> > >

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

> > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner

as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial

support as 2nd from 7th house.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can

Control Them "

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal

avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(..

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it

so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time

not a typo)

> > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members

for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a

beauty and a beast bhava.

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

> > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40

> > > > > <>

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > > MS

> > > > >

> > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever

but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends.

> > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I

guess

> > > > >

> > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai,

> > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > MS,

> > > > >

> > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to

sleep now.

> > > > >

> > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a

moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses

[threads

> > > > > where is the 8th house here

> > > > >

> > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in

it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around

> > > > > this holds good for u too

> > > > >

> > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did

> > > > >

> > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming

a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the

most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length

works hard

> > > > >

> > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is

knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us

> > > > >

> > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting

substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz

> > > > >

> > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro.

have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a

healthy limit

> > > > >

> > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole

> > > > > ms

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM

> > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > >

> > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one

of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and

the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner!

Will you COME? :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of

NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The whole forum knows about it....

> > > > > > ms

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM

> > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name

in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can

perpetuate more nonsense then you...

> > > > > > > ms

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM

> > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did

you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my

viewpoint! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I

think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan,

> > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still

responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to

respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so

very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not

addressed his mail to you.

> > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some

of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to

help people in dire straits.

> > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you....

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\

‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'!

At least you were paying attention ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma

<manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of

reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever

since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and

respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell

this guy not to post any frivolous postings...

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond

to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action,

he deems fit, will be taken.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\

¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\

€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\

‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\

Å¡ÃÆ'‚

> > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum

Physics!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed

in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in

learning joytisha!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be

a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that

life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she

decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too

many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped

the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that

perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy

and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused

again, as the ancient saying goes!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a

widow(especially when she is not that old!)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes

to be united with her pati in the afterlife?

> > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her

undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good

old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity

of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man..

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ,

" rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and

not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L..

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you

claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of

Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days

when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on

the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times --

often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days!

Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that

movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of

death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The

Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas

-- 2nd and 7th :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a

long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN

principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were

looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I

promise you! :-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for

all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects

of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

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