Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 MS i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 Good Morning Prashan Bhai, I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 MS, whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads where is the 8th house here I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around this holds good for u too same I did say on Gopu ji also he did kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole ms ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house! We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > ms > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 The choice is easy! Responsibility (KID that needs a ride come morning!) or Reluctance (to go to sleep and get the rest that you deserve!). I am working tonight, and already got my rest earlier this afternoon! Just being honest and transparent! :-) You are a good man -- we all like you! Go to bed :-) Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > ________________________________ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > >  > MS, > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > where is the 8th house here > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > this holds good for u too > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > ms > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 sure it will prashant bhai...i live in toronto ms ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Sun, January 17, 2010 1:03:40 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01  MS i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 Good Morning Prashan Bhai, I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to ____________ _________ _________ __ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 MS, whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads where is the 8th house here I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around this holds good for u too same I did say on Gopu ji also he did kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole ms ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house! We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > ms > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 We should have lunch one of these days :-) Rohiniranjan , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > that's an elder brotherly advice...and I will surely listen to that... > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, January 17, 2010 1:04:24 AM > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > >  > The choice is easy! > > Responsibility (KID that needs a ride come morning!) or Reluctance (to go to sleep and get the rest that you deserve!). > > I am working tonight, and already got my rest earlier this afternoon! > > Just being honest and transparent! :-) > > You are a good man -- we all like you! Go to bed :-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > >  > > MS, > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > where is the 8th house here > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > this holds good for u too > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > ms > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 MS i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 Good Morning Prashan Bhai, I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to ________________________________ Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 MS, whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads where is the 8th house here I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around this holds good for u too same I did say on Gopu ji also he did kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ________________________________ Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole ms ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM Re: The beauty of 8th house! We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) RR_, , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > ms > > > > >________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > >  > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > ms > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________ > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 But the 8th also holds the KUNDALINI! ;-) Not a beast (TYPO!) but be the best insect that one can be! :-) Some Schools have seen the insect, the Eagle and the Dove, all rolled into the randhra, as some still choose to call it. Even those who have so brilliantly dissected perception from the obvious! <too mystical for you, Santhosh jee ...?> AND how come YOU are not asleep yet? ;-) Regards -- and Thanks!! RR_, , santhosh10 wrote: > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > MS > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > ________________________________ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > MS, > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > where is the 8th house here > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > this holds good for u too > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ________________________________ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > ms > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > ms > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Only what pkt wrote used to be mystical for me. Miss all the exotic buildings and roads. Sleep at noon??? I sleep only at night. Regards Santhosh Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:28:34 Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 But the 8th also holds the KUNDALINI! ;-) Not a beast (TYPO!) but be the best insect that one can be! :-) Some Schools have seen the insect, the Eagle and the Dove, all rolled into the randhra, as some still choose to call it. Even those who have so brilliantly dissected perception from the obvious! <too mystical for you, Santhosh jee ...?> AND how come YOU are not asleep yet? ;-) Regards -- and Thanks!! RR_, , santhosh10 wrote: > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > MS > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > >________________________________ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > >________________________________ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > MS, > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > where is the 8th house here > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > this holds good for u too > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > >________________________________ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > ms > >________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > ms > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Who is " pkt " ? You are now beginning to worry me, a bit! <<NOT!>> Napoleon the great Libra Bone-Apart used to take a 'nap' even in the midst of a battle-field behind a Cannon! Libra is so interesting! It brings into play the dramas of Napoleon, Akbar, Hitler and Gandhijee, and many other 'JEES' more modern! Where the balance " HANGS " as many believe...! ;-) RR_, , santhosh10 wrote: > > Only what pkt wrote used to be mystical for me. Miss all the exotic buildings and roads. Sleep at noon??? I sleep only at night. > > Regards > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani > Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:28:34 > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > But the 8th also holds the KUNDALINI! ;-) > > Not a beast (TYPO!) but be the best insect that one can be! :-) > > Some Schools have seen the insect, the Eagle and the Dove, all rolled into the randhra, as some still choose to call it. > > Even those who have so brilliantly dissected perception from the obvious! <too mystical for you, Santhosh jee ...?> > > AND how come YOU are not asleep yet? ;-) > > Regards -- and Thanks!! > > RR_, > > , santhosh10@ wrote: > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > MS > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > >________________________________ > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > MS, > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > where is the 8th house here > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > this holds good for u too > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > >________________________________ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > ms > > > >________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. Lilly , santhosh10 wrote: > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > MS > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > ________________________________ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > MS, > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > where is the 8th house here > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > this holds good for u too > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ________________________________ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > ms > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > ms > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM  I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. Lilly , santhosh10@. .. wrote: > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > Santhosh > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > <> > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > MS > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > MS, > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > where is the 8th house here > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > this holds good for u too > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > ms > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > RR_, > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > ms > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > >  > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > >  > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > Lilly > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > <> > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > MS > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > MS, > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > where is the 8th house here > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > this holds good for u too > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > ms > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes into the bahavs and signs with lordships Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM  So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > >  > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > Lilly > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > <> > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > MS > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > MS, > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > where is the 8th house here > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > this holds good for u too > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > ms > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE. The whole forum knows about it.... > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > >  > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.flickr. com/gift/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan. Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes into the bahavs and signs with lordships > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM > > >  > > > > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. > > Lilly > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > > > Lilly > > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > > Santhosh > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > > <> > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > MS > > > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > MS, > > > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > > where is the 8th house here > > > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > > this holds good for u too > > > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > > ms > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The whole forum knows about it.... > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Lilly, You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has 22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic than OBAMA? :-) I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the wall (one factor astrology!) RR_, , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan. > > Lilly > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes into the bahavs and signs with lordships > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. > > > > Lilly > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > > > <> > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > MS, > > > > > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > > > where is the 8th house here > > > > > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > > > this holds good for u too > > > > > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > > > ms > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The whole forum knows about it.... > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Please don't compare my chart to some great man!! There is a difference of ASMAN & PATAL between our lives..Mr. President may have less AV points in some houses, but he definitely has " special yoga's " to get him at this post..How can a man achieve such heights of success without the chart promising it? Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Lilly, > > You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has 22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic than OBAMA? :-) > > I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the wall (one factor astrology!) > > RR_, > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan. > > > > Lilly > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes into the bahavs and signs with lordships > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > > > > <> > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MS, > > > > > > > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > > > > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > > > > where is the 8th house here > > > > > > > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > > > > this holds good for u too > > > > > > > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > > > > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > > > > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > > > > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > > > > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The whole forum knows about it.... > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Yet another illustration of one factor can be deceptive...! , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Please don't compare my chart to some great man!! There is a difference of ASMAN & PATAL between our lives..Mr. President may have less AV points in some houses, but he definitely has " special yoga's " to get him at this post..How can a man achieve such heights of success without the chart promising it? > > Lilly > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Lilly, > > > > You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has 22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic than OBAMA? :-) > > > > I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the wall (one factor astrology!) > > > > RR_, > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan. > > > > > > Lilly > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes into the bahavs and signs with lordships > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > > > > > <> > > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > > > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > > > > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MS, > > > > > > > > > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > > > > > > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > > > > > where is the 8th house here > > > > > > > > > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > > > > > this holds good for u too > > > > > > > > > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > > > > > > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > > > > > > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > > > > > > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > > > > > > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The whole forum knows about it.... > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 True chart may promise many things to attain dizzy heights.Yet 8th remains as 8th.Low scores of 8th is not uncommon.Iam no eception to number less than 21. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 Sunday, January 17, 2010, 1:34 PM  Please don't compare my chart to some great man!! There is a difference of ASMAN & PATAL between our lives..Mr. President may have less AV points in some houses, but he definitely has " special yoga's " to get him at this post...How can a man achieve such heights of success without the chart promising it? Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > Lilly, > > You have 22 AV points in your 8th, while Barack OBama has only 21! Barack has 22 AV points in his lagna while you have 36! Does that make you more charismatic than OBAMA? :-) > > I hope you see the " problem " with hanging your hat on a single nail on the wall (one factor astrology!) > > RR_, > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > All in reference to 8th is weak, and NEECHA!! It will take a lot of hard work, patience,endurance etc to get the 8th back again to UCHAA sthan. > > > > Lilly > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > score of 18 or 48 in 8th is not index for any thing.Bhavat Bahava concepts.strength of ruler of 8th H,with lagna perspective sound as better judgemets. 8th alone is not a house of curse.or bliss.Much more wisdom goes into the bahavs and signs with lordships > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:59 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess it also translate into lack of happiness from marriage partner as it is a mangalaysthan for women..Also can't count on spouse for financial support as 2nd from 7th house. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Not a bad score.low grades what is it they have 2 worry about? > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't know Santosh Ji as my 8th house is completely weak(bal avastha) with the lowest SAV points of just 18 :-(.. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , santhosh10@ .. wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is precisely why ppl are scared of 8th bhava. It brings with it so much acrimony, death of honour and respect, and misunderstandings (this time not a typo) > > > > > Thanks lilly for introducing the thread and thanks honourable members for demonstrating via a live drama, the meaning of house 8. It is definitely a beauty and a beast bhava. > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> > > > > > Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:03:40 > > > > > <> > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > MS > > > > > > > > > > i know u also live in US so same holds good4u2, time2sleep whatever but I wish the thread from 8th house at least ends. > > > > > as it has lost direction after a good start... a balarishta case I guess > > > > > > > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:22:36 AM > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Morning Prashan Bhai, > > > > > I want to go to sleep, but Rohiniranjan is not letting me to > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:50:11 AM > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of MS,. RR,, Lilly 17/01 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MS, > > > > > > > > > > whether it is EST OR PST.RRji lives in canada, so it is his time to sleep now. > > > > > > > > > > now abt his posts i have made enough requests as a member and as a moderator also andnot just to him anyone engaging in useless, dead horses [threads > > > > > where is the 8th house here > > > > > > > > > > I have asked everyone to chage the thread once they lost direction in it and still wander, blurt their rubbish around > > > > > this holds good for u too > > > > > > > > > > same I did say on Gopu ji also he did > > > > > > > > > > kettle calling the pot black or whatever as when he named JR becoming a private chatrting room when Krishna ji was one in the chats he has been the most consistant, selfless professional yet a good astrologer in the same length works hard > > > > > > > > > > on RRji's part u can read my views any no of times for yrs, he is knowledgable, I wish he shares his experiences randomly with us > > > > > > > > > > i don;t want ppl to miusue the freedom of speech by posting substanceless, and personal clashes in the forums this can be private mail plz > > > > > > > > > > don't have another 100+ or 200+ posts of more non-sense than astro. have a mix we can't eat salt alone but salt adds life to our diet if it is in a healthy limit > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 11:02:20 AM > > > > > Re: Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > if you are there, believe me, I would be run to the North pole > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:23:16 AM > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > We should hold a world-wide conference of Forum one of these days, perhaps in South India where the climate is warm and friendly and the BEST FOOD ever anywhere in the WORLD -- and 'touch base' in a Divya manner! Will you COME? :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why me? You are the one who is shenshah of NONSENSE.ÃÆ'‚ The whole forum knows about it.... > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sun, January 17, 2010 12:17:20 AM > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Did you mean to write, " than " and not 'then'? > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us just declare you the Emperor of NONSENSE and enter your name in the Hall of Fame in Jyotish! > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be appeased and quietened then, Sir? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are such a jerk....you continue and believe you me I can perpetuate more nonsense then you... > > > > > > > ms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:58:25 PM > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Dear Manoj_jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A member from the very inception of this forum! WOW! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, who is this " Goupji " you were so worried about? Did you mean, " Gopijee " or 'Gopu_jee " , both wonderful human beings from my viewpoint! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you have this reluctance to name people who are NICE? I think everyone is very nice here, including you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will stop the " nonsense " as soon as you do...! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, > > > > > > > > As adamant as you are (in Hindi it is called Dheet), you still responded to my following email. I had requested you in all my humility, not to respond to my email. You still did....well, that reinforces my belief you are so very dheet. You had no business to show disrespect to Goupji when he had not addressed his mail to you. > > > > > > > > I also felt that you were trying to show your upmanship to some of nicest members on this forum ( i do not want to name them) who are trying to help people in dire straits. > > > > > > > > Please stop this nonsense; will you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 11:44:56 PM > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks Manoj ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of your 'friends' have confusedly addressed me as 'Madam'! At least you were paying attention ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > Will you be doing something about this guy; I am so sick of reading the emails of this person....I have been a member of this forum ever since this was incepted. You have ignored pleas from some very humble and respected people like Gopuji....It is my fervent plea that you at least let tell this guy not to post any frivolous postings... > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan, I just thought I will tell you, do not respond to this email. I am talking to the moderator of this group, and whatever action, he deems fit, will be taken. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ ___ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, January 16, 2010 10:59:12 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: The beauty of 8th house! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\ €¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\ ‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\ Å¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > OR -- Learning anything, for that matter! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagine a MUMMY enrolling in an advanced course in Quantum Physics!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right lets just drop this as I can see it's headed in the wrong direction..Personal beliefs should not come in one's way in learning joytisha!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would not be able to answer that question, AMMA! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no experience or recollection of how it feels to be a woman! No woman should ever begin to feel so dependent on their husband that life ends with him and SUICIDE remains the only option -- particularly when she decides to kill herself! Just realize that TODAY, it is an OPTION, but not too many years ago, it was a SOCIALLY-IMPOSED decree! And even those MAs who escaped the burning PYRE, their individual lives were made so insipit and so BLANK that perhaps socially-imposed death would have been a welcome relief for them! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many more aspects of this complex social policy and politics that we better not discuss or we will get the sleeping dogs aroused again, as the ancient saying goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common now RR_Ji, what women will not dread being a widow(especially when she is not that old!)? > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so wrong with SATI..What if the women wishes to be united with her pati in the afterlife? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it so bad for a women to die for her husband(her undying devotion, and who means everything to her!!)..I think back in those good old rajput days the women died for their husband in order to protect the purity of her body, so she doesn't get taken as a slave to another man.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They should be hunkering down to learn astrology and not peck at scraps and run with it! The people who dread the dasa of 8L.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please share what are the 'right reasons' as you claimed or learned somewhere or from someone :-)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th cannot be all that bad! It is the house of Mangalya for a woman, or avoidance of widowhood -- a big fear in ancient days when Man used to be the sole wage-earner and society's sadistic glare fell on the innocent woman and some of those were even burned alive in ancient times -- often enough and even queens -- to show up in Around the world in 80 days! Girish Karnad and Ayesha Takiya and Gul Panagh were very convincing in that movie based against the Rajasthani backdrop, more recently! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th also has been misrepresented as the house of death! Heck no! It is the house of longevity and so is the 8th from it -- The Third! It is the houses in the loss or 12th from those that kill and are marakas -- 2nd and 7th :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturn the BAD BOY, the AYUSHKARAKA in the 8th gives a long life (if other Gotees match up in the chart!) and is an example of the KBN principle that many worshipped for long time, and many still do! They were looking at the wrong KARAKATTWA, perhaps!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now DIG DEEPER! This is not a wild goose chase, I promise you! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most often people dread running the dasa of 8L(for all the right reasons)..But 8th house also holds a key to many important aspects of our lives..Any members would like to elaborate on this topic further? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > Looking for the perfect gift? 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