Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ?

[Guest guest]

Whenever Chela ran into resistance, he returned to the notebook from childhood

which had a brilliant YELLOW cover with a STRONG and Brilliant RED SPINE! <still

does>

 

This notebook survived two massive floods, and many movements through this

reality and as I look at it fondly as I write to you, Dada, this somewhat

time-battered journal's cover page reads:

 

***********************************************

Good Companion

 

A book with a ink-stand and a quill next to it and a bearded figurine resting

above it!

 

Below it on the yellow background are the words in green ink: " I will work hard,

hope high and Live up to the best that is in me! "

****************************************

 

Very interesting, indeed...! I have had this journal for now close to 40 years,

have poured my soul into it but I never read its rather prophetic cover page,

until you motivated me to read it for you, today...!

 

Thank you! I was right in addressing you as Dada!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Mostly aptly referred terms.Needs refreshing as these terms when read as

mentioned (in classics) does not need to continue the thread.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ?

>

> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 10:03 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Seegrochcha - Mandochchaa!

>

> It is well known -- I wonder why the debate even arises! :-)

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dada,

> > Retrograde planets by dictum are never weak.Mercury, altering the gear to

slow is dictated by the King of Cosmic World.(Sun). It is not that some thing

intentional or unintentional that events occured.let' s rest them and agree that

the role of transit has their own share of 30-40% to reflect..The baggages r our

efforts to accumulate and to make weary in our attempts to project the light

of vedas in proper perspectives. 

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01

?

> >

> > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:57 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Prashant_ji and other Member_jees,

> >

> > Since we are expected to discuss Jyotish and patronizing, sarcastic remarks

tossed out of the corners of the mouths (an expression!) by high, medium and

*low* and the usage of english often taunted at by all and sundry -- while I

realize that western astrology and their followers have turned mercury

retrograde into a big star item and blamed it on miscommunication, computer

breakage, malfunction, mail not being delivered, payments delayed and similar

seemingly conceivable events much of this has been anecdotal! This kind of

one-factor casual astrology is often seen in lighter western astro writing and

astro-conversations (Often appearing in Mountain Astrologer and I have noticed

the tendency in that school of astrology in other eclectic forums). Such as oh

this is so because her neptune is squring her Vesta or Chiron is hiding behind

his pluto!

> >

> > Where in Jyotish literature, pray tell, has mercury retrograde been

associated with all the drama that was permitted to unfold on Jyotish Remedies?

Why was only J_R affected?

> >

> > What are these 'baggages' that Prashant jee is referring to?

> >

> > Mercury is the planet that often retrogrades, if it indeed must be blamed

for everything, somewhat lazily, then why does this not occur more often?

> >

> > I do not think serious practitioners should really use this kind of

planetary scapegoating, such as blame it on mercury! Particularly in the jyotish

domain which does not relate to such effects of mercury retrograde, sensational

though it may seem to some minds!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Members

> > >

> > > as Budha has become direct and in normal motuion I hope the past baggage

is left behind and we move on, as most have thankfully many of the DRY NUMBERS

have dwindled, lets have more substance flowing in whatever we do other than

ofcourse personal duals, left to private domain.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 20, 2010 12:56:13 PM

> > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Serious here to learn something and able to discuss meanngfully .Some body

has to have remdey for the wrong things and to hope for betterment.Before

somebody whistles and points out as a foul, we need to know that remedy lies in

prevention.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > >

> > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:08 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > JYOtish, not JOY-tish, Tigress!

> > >

> > > Transpositions of letters can get problematical and mis-leading! We are

all very SERIOUS here! :-(

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > That came from an American diplomat from WWII..Don't remember his name

off hand..I am not sure if moderator will allow much of quotes on this group

since this is primarily a joytish remedy forum.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , " nandini " <kakan_leo@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Where was that from?! Keep those coming in Lilly!

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope our gracious Moderator allows them to.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Nandini

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A quote that should inspire all of us!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the

strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.. The

credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by

dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again

and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself

in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high

achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while DARING

GREATLY so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither

victory or defeat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > GOPU JI,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WELL THIS HAS happened here manytimes, same scene with Jyotish

group, AIA TOO [AIA when i was a member did observ] and have read many commnents

to this effect. probably the grp and and the fiery elements also have a role esp

transitory ones on them as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > u can relate to them on ur own will be good, impartial, will not

take any nes except urs as u had brought in the post fromVA here may be till

then overall scene was normal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > any light u can throw on why VA HAD TAT scene, andhow did it flow

from that point a summery will do no few required max quote msg nos

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pl remember I am not holding u r anyone singulalry responsible for

the mess but surely

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if u look urs sateesh, manoj sharma, RRji, Lilly, nipuna//nandini

and a couple more did

> > > > > > > all have a role in it, least i can say is ur post was a catalyst.

and the reactiion was acidic strangely from all the players in the reaction in

spite of appeals, pleas,mwarnings nothing worked till a point of the elastic

limit...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i can safely coment on this now as all have realised the futility

of that period and fortunately msg numbers have come down to meaningful levels.

we don';t need dry numbers.a few quality wise in astrology,gen welfare, humor r

welcome

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, January 19, 2010 11:57:16 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear shri sateesh,

> > > > > > > Retro mercury shud have affected the other astro groups. it has

not

> > > > > > > happened. Probably transit mercury or any planet has to be

> > > > > > > co-related with the natal chart of the group as such. A chart has

> > > > > > > to prepared on the date of formation with time and place and then

chek

> > > > > > > whether transits are affecting.

> > > > > > > so generalised transit theory cannot be applied.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Sateesh Batas <makara@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@>

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:49 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I too was pleasantly surprised at seeing ALL mails today related

to Jyotish, and not " instant-message type chat " - quality not quantity is the

key.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Back to the subject...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for confirming - and perhaps the volume of mails has

(astrologically) been due to the increase in speed of Mercury, after it's recent

station-time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Certainly in my experience, the Mercury RX is often a cause of (or

say time of) over-communication / mis-understandings / Internet connection

problems, and so on.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed this pattern in their view?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best - Sateesh.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ========

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 1:21 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SB, S

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > yes onviously as RR ji had given its inception time, date.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > fortunately today we have less mails max 70 odd how this comes s

down further and more meaningful ones even if a few r good

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the past few days 2 days 100+ 2 days of 200+ or more of rubbish,

LESS Of JYOTISH FLOODED THE group space sadly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with one ban sure members will take the issue seriously before

becoming mis-adventorous again

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mon, January 18, 2010 11:25:26 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In respect of which chart? The JR birth chart?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ========

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Sudhir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 5:16 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And the difference of opinion and abuse was due to saade sathi

Saturn.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards'

> > > > > > > Sudhir

> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Sateesh Batas

> > > > > > > Jyotish Remedies

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 10:39 AM

> > > > > > > Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury changed from RX to FDX over the last few days - during

this " stationing " time, I wonder if the slow apparent speed contributed to the

upsurge in list posting amounts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since Mercury is for Communication, amongst other things (like

Internet, etc)...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope that is Astrological enough a post!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Iam consoled.Thanx.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Thu, 1/21/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ?

 

Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:13 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whenever Chela ran into resistance, he returned to the notebook from childhood

which had a brilliant YELLOW cover with a STRONG and Brilliant RED SPINE! <still

does>

 

This notebook survived two massive floods, and many movements through this

reality and as I look at it fondly as I write to you, Dada, this somewhat

time-battered journal's cover page reads:

 

************ ********* ********* ********* ********

Good Companion

 

A book with a ink-stand and a quill next to it and a bearded figurine resting

above it!

 

Below it on the yellow background are the words in green ink: " I will work hard,

hope high and Live up to the best that is in me! "

************ ********* ********* ********* *

 

Very interesting, indeed...! I have had this journal for now close to 40 years,

have poured my soul into it but I never read its rather prophetic cover page,

until you motivated me to read it for you, today...!

 

Thank you! I was right in addressing you as Dada!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Mostly aptly referred terms.Needs refreshing as these terms when read as

mentioned (in classics) does not need to continue the thread.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ?

>

> Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 10:03 PM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Seegrochcha - Mandochchaa!

>

> It is well known -- I wonder why the debate even arises! :-)

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dada,

> > Retrograde planets by dictum are never weak.Mercury, altering the gear to

slow is dictated by the King of Cosmic World.(Sun). It is not that some thing

intentional or unintentional that events occured.let' s rest them and agree that

the role of transit has their own share of 30-40% to reflect..The baggages r our

efforts to accumulate and to make weary in our attempts to project the

light of vedas in proper perspectives. 

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01

?

> >

> > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:57 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Prashant_ji and other Member_jees,

> >

> > Since we are expected to discuss Jyotish and patronizing, sarcastic remarks

tossed out of the corners of the mouths (an expression!) by high, medium and

*low* and the usage of english often taunted at by all and sundry -- while I

realize that western astrology and their followers have turned mercury

retrograde into a big star item and blamed it on miscommunication, computer

breakage, malfunction, mail not being delivered, payments delayed and similar

seemingly conceivable events much of this has been anecdotal! This kind of

one-factor casual astrology is often seen in lighter western astro writing and

astro-conversations (Often appearing in Mountain Astrologer and I have noticed

the tendency in that school of astrology in other eclectic forums). Such as oh

this is so because her neptune is squring her Vesta or Chiron is hiding behind

his pluto!

> >

> > Where in Jyotish literature, pray tell, has mercury retrograde been

associated with all the drama that was permitted to unfold on Jyotish Remedies?

Why was only J_R affected?

> >

> > What are these 'baggages' that Prashant jee is referring to?

> >

> > Mercury is the planet that often retrogrades, if it indeed must be blamed

for everything, somewhat lazily, then why does this not occur more often?

> >

> > I do not think serious practitioners should really use this kind of

planetary scapegoating, such as blame it on mercury! Particularly in the jyotish

domain which does not relate to such effects of mercury retrograde, sensational

though it may seem to some minds!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Members

> > >

> > > as Budha has become direct and in normal motuion I hope the past baggage

is left behind and we move on, as most have thankfully many of the DRY NUMBERS

have dwindled, lets have more substance flowing in whatever we do other than

ofcourse personal duals, left to private domain.

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> > >

> > > Wed, January 20, 2010 12:56:13 PM

> > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > >

> > >

> > > Serious here to learn something and able to discuss meanngfully .Some body

has to have remdey for the wrong things and to hope for betterment.Before

somebody whistles and points out as a foul, we need to know that remedy lies in

prevention.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > >

> > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:08 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > JYOtish, not JOY-tish, Tigress!

> > >

> > > Transpositions of letters can get problematical and mis-leading! We are

all very SERIOUS here! :-(

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

.....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > That came from an American diplomat from WWII..Don't remember his name

off hand..I am not sure if moderator will allow much of quotes on this group

since this is primarily a joytish remedy forum.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , " nandini " <kakan_leo@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Where was that from?! Keep those coming in Lilly!

> > > > >

> > > > > I hope our gracious Moderator allows them to.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Nandini

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A quote that should inspire all of us!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the

strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.. The

credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by

dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again

and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself

in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high

achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while DARING

GREATLY so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither

victory or defeat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > GOPU JI,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > WELL THIS HAS happened here manytimes, same scene with Jyotish

group, AIA TOO [AIA when i was a member did observ] and have read many commnents

to this effect. probably the grp and and the fiery elements also have a role esp

transitory ones on them as well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > u can relate to them on ur own will be good, impartial, will not

take any nes except urs as u had brought in the post fromVA here may be till

then overall scene was normal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > any light u can throw on why VA HAD TAT scene, andhow did it flow

from that point a summery will do no few required max quote msg nos

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pl remember I am not holding u r anyone singulalry responsible for

the mess but surely

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if u look urs sateesh, manoj sharma, RRji, Lilly, nipuna//nandini

and a couple more did

> > > > > > > all have a role in it, least i can say is ur post was a catalyst.

and the reactiion was acidic strangely from all the players in the reaction in

spite of appeals, pleas,mwarnings nothing worked till a point of the elastic

limit...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i can safely coment on this now as all have realised the futility

of that period and fortunately msg numbers have come down to meaningful levels.

we don';t need dry numbers.a few quality wise in astrology,gen welfare, humor r

welcome

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, January 19, 2010 11:57:16 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear shri sateesh,

> > > > > > > Retro mercury shud have affected the other astro groups. it has

not

> > > > > > > happened. Probably transit mercury or any planet has to be

> > > > > > > co-related with the natal chart of the group as such. A chart has

> > > > > > > to prepared on the date of formation with time and place and then

chek

> > > > > > > whether transits are affecting.

> > > > > > > so generalised transit theory cannot be applied.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Sateesh Batas <makara@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@>

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:49 PM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I too was pleasantly surprised at seeing ALL mails today related

to Jyotish, and not " instant-message type chat " - quality not quantity is the

key.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Back to the subject...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for confirming - and perhaps the volume of mails has

(astrologically) been due to the increase in speed of Mercury, after it's recent

station-time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Certainly in my experience, the Mercury RX is often a cause of (or

say time of) over-communication / mis-understandings / Internet connection

problems, and so on.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed this pattern in their view?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best - Sateesh.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ========

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 1:21 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SB, S

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > yes onviously as RR ji had given its inception time, date.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > fortunately today we have less mails max 70 odd how this comes s

down further and more meaningful ones even if a few r good

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the past few days 2 days 100+ 2 days of 200+ or more of rubbish,

LESS Of JYOTISH FLOODED THE group space sadly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with one ban sure members will take the issue seriously before

becoming mis-adventorous again

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mon, January 18, 2010 11:25:26 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In respect of which chart? The JR birth chart?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ========

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Sudhir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 5:16 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > And the difference of opinion and abuse was due to saade sathi

Saturn.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards'

> > > > > > > Sudhir

> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Sateesh Batas

> > > > > > > Jyotish Remedies

> > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 10:39 AM

> > > > > > > Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

2010

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mercury changed from RX to FDX over the last few days - during

this " stationing " time, I wonder if the slow apparent speed contributed to the

upsurge in list posting amounts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since Mercury is for Communication, amongst other things (like

Internet, etc)...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope that is Astrological enough a post!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I am glad you felt consoled, Krishnan jee! :-)

 

How can Controllers be Neutral, by the way? Let us look into that, now that we

have your attention...?

 

 

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Iam consoled.Thanx.

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 1/21/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ?

>

> Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:13 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Whenever Chela ran into resistance, he returned to the notebook from childhood

which had a brilliant YELLOW cover with a STRONG and Brilliant RED SPINE! <still

does>

>

> This notebook survived two massive floods, and many movements through this

reality and as I look at it fondly as I write to you, Dada, this somewhat

time-battered journal's cover page reads:

>

> ************ ********* ********* ********* ********

> Good Companion

>

> A book with a ink-stand and a quill next to it and a bearded figurine resting

above it!

>

> Below it on the yellow background are the words in green ink: " I will work

hard, hope high and Live up to the best that is in me! "

> ************ ********* ********* ********* *

>

> Very interesting, indeed...! I have had this journal for now close to 40

years, have poured my soul into it but I never read its rather prophetic cover

page, until you motivated me to read it for you, today...!

>

> Thank you! I was right in addressing you as Dada!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Mostly aptly referred terms.Needs refreshing as these terms when read as

mentioned (in classics) does not need to continue the thread.

> >

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan

> > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > (For all counseling services)

> > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> >  

> >

> > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01

?

> >

> > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 10:03 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Seegrochcha - Mandochchaa!

> >

> > It is well known -- I wonder why the debate even arises! :-)

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dada,

> > > Retrograde planets by dictum are never weak.Mercury, altering the gear to

slow is dictated by the King of Cosmic World.(Sun). It is not that some thing

intentional or unintentional that events occured.let' s rest them and agree that

the role of transit has their own share of 30-40% to reflect..The baggages r our

efforts to accumulate and to make weary in our attempts to project the

light of vedas in proper perspectives. 

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > (For all counseling services)

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can

Control Them "

> > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > >  

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > >

> > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:57 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Prashant_ji and other Member_jees,

> > >

> > > Since we are expected to discuss Jyotish and patronizing, sarcastic

remarks tossed out of the corners of the mouths (an expression!) by high, medium

and *low* and the usage of english often taunted at by all and sundry -- while I

realize that western astrology and their followers have turned mercury

retrograde into a big star item and blamed it on miscommunication, computer

breakage, malfunction, mail not being delivered, payments delayed and similar

seemingly conceivable events much of this has been anecdotal! This kind of

one-factor casual astrology is often seen in lighter western astro writing and

astro-conversations (Often appearing in Mountain Astrologer and I have noticed

the tendency in that school of astrology in other eclectic forums). Such as oh

this is so because her neptune is squring her Vesta or Chiron is hiding behind

his pluto!

> > >

> > > Where in Jyotish literature, pray tell, has mercury retrograde been

associated with all the drama that was permitted to unfold on Jyotish Remedies?

Why was only J_R affected?

> > >

> > > What are these 'baggages' that Prashant jee is referring to?

> > >

> > > Mercury is the planet that often retrogrades, if it indeed must be blamed

for everything, somewhat lazily, then why does this not occur more often?

> > >

> > > I do not think serious practitioners should really use this kind of

planetary scapegoating, such as blame it on mercury! Particularly in the jyotish

domain which does not relate to such effects of mercury retrograde, sensational

though it may seem to some minds!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@

....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Members

> > > >

> > > > as Budha has become direct and in normal motuion I hope the past baggage

is left behind and we move on, as most have thankfully many of the DRY NUMBERS

have dwindled, lets have more substance flowing in whatever we do other than

ofcourse personal duals, left to private domain.

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

> > > >

> > > > Wed, January 20, 2010 12:56:13 PM

> > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Serious here to learn something and able to discuss meanngfully .Some

body has to have remdey for the wrong things and to hope for betterment.Before

somebody whistles and points out as a foul, we need to know that remedy lies in

prevention.

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > Cyber Jyotish Services

> > > > (For all counseling services)

> > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January

20/01 ?

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:08 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > JYOtish, not JOY-tish, Tigress!

> > > >

> > > > Transpositions of letters can get problematical and mis-leading! We are

all very SERIOUS here! :-(

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

.....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > That came from an American diplomat from WWII..Don't remember his name

off hand..I am not sure if moderator will allow much of quotes on this group

since this is primarily a joytish remedy forum.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > , " nandini " <kakan_leo@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Where was that from?! Keep those coming in Lilly!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope our gracious Moderator allows them to.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Nandini

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A quote that should inspire all of us!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how

the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better..

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred

by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short

again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends

himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high

achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while DARING

GREATLY so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither

victory or defeat.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > GOPU JI,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > WELL THIS HAS happened here manytimes, same scene with Jyotish

group, AIA TOO [AIA when i was a member did observ] and have read many commnents

to this effect. probably the grp and and the fiery elements also have a role esp

transitory ones on them as well.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > u can relate to them on ur own will be good, impartial, will not

take any nes except urs as u had brought in the post fromVA here may be till

then overall scene was normal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > any light u can throw on why VA HAD TAT scene, andhow did it

flow from that point a summery will do no few required max quote msg nos

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > pl remember I am not holding u r anyone singulalry responsible

for the mess but surely

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if u look urs sateesh, manoj sharma, RRji, Lilly,

nipuna//nandini and a couple more did

> > > > > > > > all have a role in it, least i can say is ur post was a

catalyst. and the reactiion was acidic strangely from all the players in the

reaction in spite of appeals, pleas,mwarnings nothing worked till a point of the

elastic limit...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i can safely coment on this now as all have realised the

futility of that period and fortunately msg numbers have come down to meaningful

levels. we don';t need dry numbers.a few quality wise in astrology,gen welfare,

humor r welcome

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tue, January 19, 2010 11:57:16 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear shri sateesh,

> > > > > > > > Retro mercury shud have affected the other astro groups. it has

not

> > > > > > > > happened. Probably transit mercury or any planet has to be

> > > > > > > > co-related with the natal chart of the group as such. A chart

has

> > > > > > > > to prepared on the date of formation with time and place and

then chek

> > > > > > > > whether transits are affecting.

> > > > > > > > so generalised transit theory cannot be applied.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards,

> > > > > > > > k.gopu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Sateesh Batas <makara@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@>

> > > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:49 PM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Prashant,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I too was pleasantly surprised at seeing ALL mails today related

to Jyotish, and not " instant-message type chat " - quality not quantity is the

key.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Back to the subject...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for confirming - and perhaps the volume of mails has

(astrologically) been due to the increase in speed of Mercury, after it's recent

station-time?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Certainly in my experience, the Mercury RX is often a cause of

(or say time of) over-communication / mis-understandings / Internet connection

problems, and so on.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed this pattern in their view?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best - Sateesh.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ========

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 1:21 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 20/01 ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > SB, S

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > yes onviously as RR ji had given its inception time, date.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > fortunately today we have less mails max 70 odd how this comes s

down further and more meaningful ones even if a few r good

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the past few days 2 days 100+ 2 days of 200+ or more of rubbish,

LESS Of JYOTISH FLOODED THE group space sadly

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with one ban sure members will take the issue seriously before

becoming mis-adventorous again

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mon, January 18, 2010 11:25:26 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In respect of which chart? The JR birth chart?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ========

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Sudhir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 5:16 AM

> > > > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > And the difference of opinion and abuse was due to saade sathi

Saturn.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards'

> > > > > > > > Sudhir

> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Sateesh Batas

> > > > > > > > Jyotish Remedies

> > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 10:39 AM

> > > > > > > > Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts -

mid-January 2010

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mercury changed from RX to FDX over the last few days - during

this " stationing " time, I wonder if the slow apparent speed contributed to the

upsurge in list posting amounts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Since Mercury is for Communication, amongst other things (like

Internet, etc)...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hope that is Astrological enough a post!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >