Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 It is absolutely not the case, in my experience, Sir. Not just prevention -- although like in health conditions, prevention is the ideal remedy! The case I described in details was an instance where the problem had started and mismanaged by certain 'jyotishi/s' and when the person came to me for a second opinion and received good and balanced and effective advice. I am not bragging, but simply highlighting the point again, that the way people have started tossing gemstone advice and this mantra or that mantra or this pooja or that pooja is not really responsible! If three astrologers give three types of gemstone recommendation, three ishta devtaas and five different types of religious upaayes, imagine the confusion in the poor querent :-) This obviously becomes more apparent on public channels but it is perhaps all over the place! The astro-consumer is becoming saavy too as we hear from time to time a request for a second opinion in increasing numbers! If this is the state of STANDARDIZATION and uniformity in the field of Jyotish that five EXPERTS come to SEVEN different remedies or treatment protocols, how DARE we call Jyotish a SCIENCE? Again, I am not being provocative towards individuals, but just the current STATUS QUO in Jyotish. There is surely something seriously amiss, whether you all like it or not or wish to sweep the dirt away under the rug! And truth be told, the VARIABILITY is way greater in the REMEDIAL JYOTISH than in PHALIT JYOTISH and even smaller in GANIT SKANDHA! I hope the english was simple enough and the TRUTH CLEAR ENOUGH and characteristically D-I-R-E-C-T as always...! :-) Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Serious here to learn something and able to discuss meanngfully .Some body has to have remdey for the wrong things and to hope for betterment.Before somebody whistles and points out as a foul, we need to know that remedy lies in prevention. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:08 PM > > >  > > > > JYOtish, not JOY-tish, Tigress! > > Transpositions of letters can get problematical and mis-leading! We are all very SERIOUS here! :-( > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > That came from an American diplomat from WWII..Don't remember his name off hand..I am not sure if moderator will allow much of quotes on this group since this is primarily a joytish remedy forum. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " nandini " <kakan_leo@> wrote: > > > > > > Where was that from?! Keep those coming in Lilly! > > > > > > I hope our gracious Moderator allows them to. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nandini > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > A quote that should inspire all of us!! > > > > > > > > It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while DARING GREATLY so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither victory or defeat. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GOPU JI, > > > > > > > > > > WELL THIS HAS happened here manytimes, same scene with Jyotish group, AIA TOO [AIA when i was a member did observ] and have read many commnents to this effect. probably the grp and and the fiery elements also have a role esp transitory ones on them as well. > > > > > > > > > > u can relate to them on ur own will be good, impartial, will not take any nes except urs as u had brought in the post fromVA here may be till then overall scene was normal > > > > > > > > > > any light u can throw on why VA HAD TAT scene, andhow did it flow from that point a summery will do no few required max quote msg nos > > > > > > > > > > pl remember I am not holding u r anyone singulalry responsible for the mess but surely > > > > > > > > > > if u look urs sateesh, manoj sharma, RRji, Lilly, nipuna//nandini and a couple more did > > > > > all have a role in it, least i can say is ur post was a catalyst. and the reactiion was acidic strangely from all the players in the reaction in spite of appeals, pleas,mwarnings nothing worked till a point of the elastic limit... > > > > > > > > > > i can safely coment on this now as all have realised the futility of that period and fortunately msg numbers have come down to meaningful levels. we don';t need dry numbers.a few quality wise in astrology,gen welfare, humor r welcome > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > > > > > > > > Tue, January 19, 2010 11:57:16 AM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri sateesh, > > > > > Retro mercury shud have affected the other astro groups. it has not > > > > > happened. Probably transit mercury or any planet has to be > > > > > co-related with the natal chart of the group as such. A chart has > > > > > to prepared on the date of formation with time and place and then chek > > > > > whether transits are affecting. > > > > > so generalised transit theory cannot be applied. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Sateesh Batas <makara@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@> > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > > > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > I too was pleasantly surprised at seeing ALL mails today related to Jyotish, and not " instant-message type chat " - quality not quantity is the key. > > > > > > > > > > Back to the subject... > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for confirming - and perhaps the volume of mails has (astrologically) been due to the increase in speed of Mercury, after it's recent station-time? > > > > > > > > > > Certainly in my experience, the Mercury RX is often a cause of (or say time of) over-communication / mis-understandings / Internet connection problems, and so on. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed this pattern in their view? > > > > > > > > > > Best - Sateesh. > > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 1:21 PM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > > > > > > > > > SB, S > > > > > > > > > > yes onviously as RR ji had given its inception time, date. > > > > > > > > > > fortunately today we have less mails max 70 odd how this comes s down further and more meaningful ones even if a few r good > > > > > > > > > > the past few days 2 days 100+ 2 days of 200+ or more of rubbish, LESS Of JYOTISH FLOODED THE group space sadly > > > > > > > > > > with one ban sure members will take the issue seriously before becoming mis-adventorous again > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@> > > > > > > > > > > Mon, January 18, 2010 11:25:26 AM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 2010 > > > > > > > > > > In respect of which chart? The JR birth chart? > > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 5:16 AM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 2010 > > > > > > > > > > And the difference of opinion and abuse was due to saade sathi Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards' > > > > > Sudhir > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Sateesh Batas > > > > > Jyotish Remedies > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 10:39 AM > > > > > Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 2010 > > > > > > > > > > Mercury changed from RX to FDX over the last few days - during this " stationing " time, I wonder if the slow apparent speed contributed to the upsurge in list posting amounts. > > > > > > > > > > Since Mercury is for Communication, amongst other things (like Internet, etc)... > > > > > > > > > > Hope that is Astrological enough a post! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Sorry sir, I missed the thread before responding to bhakoot dosha.I need to to take this also together and reassess prevention conception. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Wed, 1/20/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani STATUS REPORT 2010! Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:10 PM  It is absolutely not the case, in my experience, Sir. Not just prevention -- although like in health conditions, prevention is the ideal remedy! The case I described in details was an instance where the problem had started and mismanaged by certain 'jyotishi/s' and when the person came to me for a second opinion and received good and balanced and effective advice. I am not bragging, but simply highlighting the point again, that the way people have started tossing gemstone advice and this mantra or that mantra or this pooja or that pooja is not really responsible! If three astrologers give three types of gemstone recommendation, three ishta devtaas and five different types of religious upaayes, imagine the confusion in the poor querent :-) This obviously becomes more apparent on public channels but it is perhaps all over the place! The astro-consumer is becoming saavy too as we hear from time to time a request for a second opinion in increasing numbers! If this is the state of STANDARDIZATION and uniformity in the field of Jyotish that five EXPERTS come to SEVEN different remedies or treatment protocols, how DARE we call Jyotish a SCIENCE? Again, I am not being provocative towards individuals, but just the current STATUS QUO in Jyotish. There is surely something seriously amiss, whether you all like it or not or wish to sweep the dirt away under the rug! And truth be told, the VARIABILITY is way greater in the REMEDIAL JYOTISH than in PHALIT JYOTISH and even smaller in GANIT SKANDHA! I hope the english was simple enough and the TRUTH CLEAR ENOUGH and characteristically D-I-R-E-C-T as always...! :-) Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Serious here to learn something and able to discuss meanngfully .Some body has to have remdey for the wrong things and to hope for betterment.Before somebody whistles and points out as a foul, we need to know that remedy lies in prevention. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:08 PM > > >  > > > > JYOtish, not JOY-tish, Tigress! > > Transpositions of letters can get problematical and mis-leading! We are all very SERIOUS here! :-( > > RR > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > That came from an American diplomat from WWII..Don't remember his name off hand..I am not sure if moderator will allow much of quotes on this group since this is primarily a joytish remedy forum. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " nandini " <kakan_leo@> wrote: > > > > > > Where was that from?! Keep those coming in Lilly! > > > > > > I hope our gracious Moderator allows them to. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Nandini > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > A quote that should inspire all of us!! > > > > > > > > It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while DARING GREATLY so that his place shall never be with those timid souls who know neither victory or defeat. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > GOPU JI, > > > > > > > > > > WELL THIS HAS happened here manytimes, same scene with Jyotish group, AIA TOO [AIA when i was a member did observ] and have read many commnents to this effect. probably the grp and and the fiery elements also have a role esp transitory ones on them as well. > > > > > > > > > > u can relate to them on ur own will be good, impartial, will not take any nes except urs as u had brought in the post fromVA here may be till then overall scene was normal > > > > > > > > > > any light u can throw on why VA HAD TAT scene, andhow did it flow from that point a summery will do no few required max quote msg nos > > > > > > > > > > pl remember I am not holding u r anyone singulalry responsible for the mess but surely > > > > > > > > > > if u look urs sateesh, manoj sharma, RRji, Lilly, nipuna//nandini and a couple more did > > > > > all have a role in it, least i can say is ur post was a catalyst. and the reactiion was acidic strangely from all the players in the reaction in spite of appeals, pleas,mwarnings nothing worked till a point of the elastic limit... > > > > > > > > > > i can safely coment on this now as all have realised the futility of that period and fortunately msg numbers have come down to meaningful levels. we don';t need dry numbers.a few quality wise in astrology,gen welfare, humor r welcome > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > > > > > > > > Tue, January 19, 2010 11:57:16 AM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear shri sateesh, > > > > > Retro mercury shud have affected the other astro groups. it has not > > > > > happened. Probably transit mercury or any planet has to be > > > > > co-related with the natal chart of the group as such. A chart has > > > > > to prepared on the date of formation with time and place and then chek > > > > > whether transits are affecting. > > > > > so generalised transit theory cannot be applied. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Sateesh Batas <makara@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@> > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > > > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010, 9:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant, > > > > > > > > > > I too was pleasantly surprised at seeing ALL mails today related to Jyotish, and not " instant-message type chat " - quality not quantity is the key. > > > > > > > > > > Back to the subject... > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for confirming - and perhaps the volume of mails has (astrologically) been due to the increase in speed of Mercury, after it's recent station-time? > > > > > > > > > > Certainly in my experience, the Mercury RX is often a cause of (or say time of) over-communication / mis-understandings / Internet connection problems, and so on. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed this pattern in their view? > > > > > > > > > > Best - Sateesh. > > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 1:21 PM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 20/01 ? > > > > > > > > > > SB, S > > > > > > > > > > yes onviously as RR ji had given its inception time, date. > > > > > > > > > > fortunately today we have less mails max 70 odd how this comes s down further and more meaningful ones even if a few r good > > > > > > > > > > the past few days 2 days 100+ 2 days of 200+ or more of rubbish, LESS Of JYOTISH FLOODED THE group space sadly > > > > > > > > > > with one ban sure members will take the issue seriously before becoming mis-adventorous again > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Sateesh Batas <makara@> > > > > > > > > > > Mon, January 18, 2010 11:25:26 AM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 2010 > > > > > > > > > > In respect of which chart? The JR birth chart? > > > > > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Sudhir > > > > > > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 5:16 AM > > > > > Re: Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 2010 > > > > > > > > > > And the difference of opinion and abuse was due to saade sathi Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Regards' > > > > > Sudhir > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > Sateesh Batas > > > > > Jyotish Remedies > > > > > Monday, January 18, 2010 10:39 AM > > > > > Slow speed of Mercury - JR List posts - mid-January 2010 > > > > > > > > > > Mercury changed from RX to FDX over the last few days - during this " stationing " time, I wonder if the slow apparent speed contributed to the upsurge in list posting amounts. > > > > > > > > > > Since Mercury is for Communication, amongst other things (like Internet, etc)... > > > > > > > > > > Hope that is Astrological enough a post! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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