Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir, > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/Koil/Mushraf) > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24 > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > >  > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > cliks and they live a happy life. >  >  > regards, > k.gopu > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > >  > > Rohini Ji, > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > >  > > Krishnan ji, > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > Take care...! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Thanks! I did not know about this practice -- presumably amongst certain Hindus settled in the West? I can only hope that such PAPAs were doing whatever they thought was best for their progeny. Other than that, no comments :-) RR , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. > Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! > > Lilly > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/Koil/Mushraf) > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > > cliks and they live a happy life. > >  > >  > > regards, > > k.gopu > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > > > >  > > > > Rohini Ji, > > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > > > >  > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > > > Take care...! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ay_APPA, How did you assume I was talking about Hindu's settled in the west?? In case you forgot Dharni AMMA is round, as in not flat or linear. East, West concepts are all presumably only valid from the point where we stand on this earth. East can be anyone residing east of you, or an eastern state for that matter..By the way I was talking about a grandmother in India who got married to someone from an eastern state back 60+ years ago.. Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Thanks! I did not know about this practice -- presumably amongst certain Hindus settled in the West? > > I can only hope that such PAPAs were doing whatever they thought was best for their progeny. Other than that, no comments :-) > > RR > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. > > Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! > > > > Lilly > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/Koil/Mushraf) > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > > > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > > > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > > > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > > > cliks and they live a happy life. > > >  > > >  > > > regards, > > > k.gopu > > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > Rohini Ji, > > > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > > > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > > > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > > > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > > > > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > > > > > Take care...! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I did say, " presumably! " :-) We should talk one of these days, about generalizing an instance or one case or one horoscope into portraying it as a 'trend' or norm! Don't feel bad, many jyotishis and other types of astrologers too do that all the time! It is a very misleading practice when the background details are not provided, such as single-factor statements on internet forum that are offered as fait accompli! RR , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Ay_APPA, How did you assume I was talking about Hindu's settled in the west?? > In case you forgot Dharni AMMA is round, as in not flat or linear. East, West concepts are all presumably only valid from the point where we stand on this earth. East can be anyone residing east of you, or an eastern state for that matter..By the way I was talking about a grandmother in India who got married to someone from an eastern state back 60+ years ago.. > > Lilly , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Thanks! I did not know about this practice -- presumably amongst certain Hindus settled in the West? > > > > I can only hope that such PAPAs were doing whatever they thought was best for their progeny. Other than that, no comments :-) > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. > > > Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/Koil/Mushraf) > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > > > > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > > > > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > > > > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > > > > cliks and they live a happy life. > > > >  > > > >  > > > > regards, > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Rohini Ji, > > > > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > > > > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > > > > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > > > > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > > > > > > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > > > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > > > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > > > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > > > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > > > > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > > > > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > > > > > > > Take care...! > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Members, We have been informing that predective tools avaialble in jyotish are of immense value and available for those who wants to prevent/avoid emberassment in life.It provides prior understanding and paves way to handle issues without loosing hearts in crisis times. ''Matching of the Horoscopes " is for people knowing language and it helps in enlightenment evn if ambiguous. When happiness is there between them better we complements for their element of decisiveness and clinch the issue in favour of Kanya from west. Satwicks are preferred over Rajasik and Tamsik people.Language does not come in the way as skills have intrinsic value and preferrences. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Kanya from the west! Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:55 PM  Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Sir, > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/ vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/ Koil/Mushraf) > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .> wrote: > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .> > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > >  > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > cliks and they live a happy life. >  >  > regards, > k.gopu > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > >  > > Rohini Ji, > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > >  > > Krishnan ji, > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > RR_, > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > Take care...! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Satvik by birth or satwic by Manasa, Vacha, Karmana, Dada ;-) On the other hand, is it not a good idea for marriages to remain somewhat samadharmi? What would be the outcome of bringing a satwic to marry a tamasica -- on both partners? Is it even something to worry about, because, aren't all marriage made in heaven, melapak or not? Then Divorces were perhaps made in Heaven too! One can't have it both ways -- have your cake and eat it too! Some say that marriages are made in heaven but broken on Earth. I think that is like bending the rules to one's liking and convenience! When it serves our argument we call everything destined, but then when we need to argue against something we use the opposite stance. At least I have been consistent and honest about destiny and free-will! Or my views about those! RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Members, > We have been informing that predective tools avaialble in jyotish are of immense value and available for those who wants to prevent/avoid emberassment in life.It provides prior understanding and paves way to handle issues without loosing hearts in crisis times. > ''Matching of the Horoscopes " is for people knowing language and it helps in enlightenment evn if ambiguous. > When happiness is there between them better we complements for their element of decisiveness and clinch the issue in favour of Kanya from west. > Satwicks are preferred over Rajasik and Tamsik people.Language does not come in the way as skills have intrinsic value and preferrences. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Kanya from the west! > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:55 PM > > >  > > > > Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. > Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! > > Lilly > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/ vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/ Koil/Mushraf) > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24@ .> wrote: > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@ .> > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > > cliks and they live a happy life. > >  > >  > > regards, > > k.gopu > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > > > >  > > > > Rohini Ji, > > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > > > >  > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > > > Take care...! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Heaven happends to be one end and the other extreem end cited was Hell with Earth forming a 3 D context. Marraige is an accepted arrangement between two hetrosexuals(only in the context of happy receprocations) have been adored and respected in terms of Heaven. The issues coming out of livelihood and insecurity posing a threat to the accepted arrangement and survival by way of dominance becomes a factor.Earth,the third dimension is not so sapcious as the two far off remote and conceptual world of extreemities. It is in this marraiges endorses a concept of responsibilty,to make the place(Earth) where the livelihood is to make them as Heaven or Hell by their endorsement of mutuality and respect. Now the various equations made by the human being through their mind,action and reciprocal beahviours have all elements to succeed and fail.These issues are the real concerns to validate the present times often termed as Kailyuga.The ratios of tamsic,rajsic and satwic are only meant for understanding behavior patterns for a pleasent,happy,memoroable and successful association of Mankind.Here East and West perspective have no difference. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services (For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma  --- On Fri, 1/22/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Kanya from the west! Friday, January 22, 2010, 6:12 PM  Satvik by birth or satwic by Manasa, Vacha, Karmana, Dada ;-) On the other hand, is it not a good idea for marriages to remain somewhat samadharmi? What would be the outcome of bringing a satwic to marry a tamasica -- on both partners? Is it even something to worry about, because, aren't all marriage made in heaven, melapak or not? Then Divorces were perhaps made in Heaven too! One can't have it both ways -- have your cake and eat it too! Some say that marriages are made in heaven but broken on Earth. I think that is like bending the rules to one's liking and convenience! When it serves our argument we call everything destined, but then when we need to argue against something we use the opposite stance. At least I have been consistent and honest about destiny and free-will! Or my views about those! RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Members, > We have been informing that predective tools avaialble in jyotish are of immense value and available for those who wants to prevent/avoid emberassment in life.It provides prior understanding and paves way to handle issues without loosing hearts in crisis times. > ''Matching of the Horoscopes " is for people knowing language and it helps in enlightenment evn if ambiguous. > When happiness is there between them better we complements for their element of decisiveness and clinch the issue in favour of Kanya from west. > Satwicks are preferred over Rajasik and Tamsik people.Language does not come in the way as skills have intrinsic value and preferrences. > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > Kanya from the west! > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:55 PM > > >  > > > > Not too long ago PAPA from the west, happily performed Kanya-daan of their daughters to the " brahmins of the east " .. For some reason(not know to me) eastern brahmins were highly sought after for marriage purpose, even though they spoke a foreign language and had different dietary needs..So when the freshly married Kanya arrived at the door-step of her newly adopted family, and despite not able to speak a lick of her new family language, or even tasted their food was still highly entertained from her In-laws. > Kanya quickly adapted & adjusted well to the her new clan, and all this without even matching the horoscope!!! > > Lilly > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > It is not always through parents and the adult individuals as per their wish canadopt for Institutional tie up by way of a traditional/ vedic Kalyanam or by way solemnising in a holy place b4 priests(church/ Koil/Mushraf) > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Thu, 1/21/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24@ .> wrote: > > > > > > K Gopu <kgopu_24@ .> > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Thursday, January 21, 2010, 12:58 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > dear shri krishnaji, > > Very nicely explained. If there is mental compatability all the negative > > factors of the chart gets reduced and the couple' s marital life is > > harmonious. Sometimes marriages not arranged by parents also > > cliks and they live a happy life. > >  > >  > > regards, > > k.gopu > > > > --- On Wed, 1/20/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote: > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > > Re: Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 12:01 PM > > > >  > > > > Rohini Ji, > > Marraige as per conventions and as per socital limitations is one and only kind of arrangements between hetero sexuals with the sole aim of sharing of concerns,live togther happily and promote progeny by fulfilling desires. > > Marriaged if arranged(not out of one's own choice) can last as long if the two individuals feel comfortable able to have same wave length.Mutual respect of feelings,comforts and have prominence and respect.When ever these basics(of any marraige) are flouted,they lead to collapse.This comes out of discord ,loss of trust and even conceit. > > As long as these basics are born in mind by the two people,all doshas get cancelled and harmony prevails.if any one at any time ignores,disrespects ,toys with ego,they are bound to fall through.Every thing has a limit.This limit is the Lakshmana Rekha.when not crossed,it is a life full of duets. > > Considering the social situations ,Marriage is an arrangement between two persons.Today the geneder basis also is not a matter.In that context arranged arrangements can last as long the two individuals would like to continue to have.Their longevity can be anything depending the emotional quotient. > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > (For all counseling services) > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > >  > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:04 PM > > > >  > > > > Krishnan ji, > > > > Seriously -- how long do we think, ARRANGED MARRIAGES are going to last in Human Society? I mean the entire world, of course! > > > > Not a challenge, but just something to take a deep breath and realistically ponder about! > > > > RR_, > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > Some issues like this were widely discussed and opined .v r in favour or against for such doshas.probably the decison to atke the firm view is left to the one who has to finally decide good or bad. > > > Aditi was informed of theory as put in texts and it;s practical impct of good and bad has lot of vascillation from true to false. > > > V have done our things by giving theoritical implications and left to the native to have good faith and all consequences to count but not to falme the old version nor the one who judgesd and made a positive suggestion. > > > The bhakoota dosha is just coined,perhaps to " prevent " some thing may happen.In fact all doshas have some base in our texts.Some tool courage and challenged and r happy and few were also quarrentined for their revolt against Dharam/Sastras or what ever. > > > This also reminds me a recent query dealing with marriage problem and in which,the girls parents came up with a stern attitude that astrologically this relationship acn not end up in meaning marraige. > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > (For all counseling services) > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > >  > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: query - bhakut dosha > > > > > > Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:27 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Aditi, > > > > > > Jyotish is a very 'empirical' subject that also has a rather HEAVY didactic end! If you take up any traditional, classical text on Jyotish, you will find that it is choc-full of rules and yogas and so on, but other than one or two text-books (out of the few dozens that you hear of on Jyotish fora -- BPHS, Vrihajjataka, Phaladeepika, Deve Keralam, Uttarkalamrita, ad infinitud... ) NO EXAMPLES are provided! One can only deduce that the 'workbooks' with examples and so on somehow miraculously got destroyed or were only provided in Gurukool type settings (after one enrolled in the academy which was not easy from what I hear!). > > > > > > Before you make a decision that could affect human lives, whether it is Bhakoot or NBRY -- please make sure that you follow-up the theory with examples! Or else you would end up blaming Jyotish! > > > > > > Also, please remember: One robin does not signal the spring and one locust (TIDDA) does not warn of a famine! > > > > > > Take care...! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , aditi budhiraja <aditi_budhiraja@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello/ Namaste, > > > > > > > > Please could all the respected astrologers make me understand what is bhakut dosha? > > > > > > > > Also, how dangerous it is when considered from the match making point of view? > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Aditi Budhiraja > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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