Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

[Guest guest]

 

 

Dear Gurudev;

Thanks for the correction.

 

" Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that

counts..

-Sir Winston Churchill

 

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of

enthusiasm.

-Sir Winston Churchill

 

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't

lose.

-Bill Gates "

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

-------------.

 

 

 

 

 

 

-.

 

--- On Thu, 21/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

>rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>

>Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 11:39 PM

>

>

> 

>Unless you are a very detached, sadhu-pravritti, pahunchay huay praani, and

probably you are :-) -- my recommendation would be to not just take just the

last chart into consideration. We all must learn from our successes and

failures, but not just the last one because then lessons will be lost and we

would be drawing the chart in the sand and retaining nothing :-)

>

>Most regular human beings learn through multiplicity of experiences, or else it

could become very chaotic! The bipolar highs and lows of successes and failures

would be damaging to the frail human psyche..

>

>RR

>

>, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Jha ji;

>> The criteria is simple;

>> No astrologer is better or worse than the last/latest chart analysed by

him/her.

>>  Regards

>> Kulbir Bains

>> ------------ -.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ____________ _________ _________ __

>> VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

>>

>> Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:40:37 AM

>> Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>>

>>  

>> Rohini Da,

>>

>> I am sure the " silent majority " wants :

>>

>> (1)correct chart analysis free of cost,

>>

>> (2)some good discussion about particular or general astrological issues

without personal attacks.

>>

>> Both issues are correlated, because correct chart analysis often entails some

discussion. Both these issues are helpful for so-called experts as well as for

so-called laymen.

>>

>> " So-called " is not used here against anyone; I really wonder sometimes how to

differentiate an expert of astrology from a layman. It is because mostly a

layman does not stick to any dogma and keeps his/her options open, and is

therefore better placed for learning something than the hardened and ossified

expert who can only teach.

>>

>> -VJ

>> ============ ====== ===

>> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear Sir RR JI;

>> > I have learnt a lot since i joined this group.

>> > Babu Suresh ji tried to explain invaluable information to me but i took it

like an offence.

>> > Very late i realised what he intended to mean.

>> > He advised me to see the correlation between lalkitab and other

classics.

>> > This gave birth to a question.

>> > Can a person with Virgo lagan do pitri rin remedy for mercury as suggested

by lalkitab.

>> > I put this question to big names in lalkitab and thry are banging

their heads against walls to find out the answer.

>> > There can be such misunderstandings (as i misinterpreted Babu Suresh Ji).

but the group is a respected platform and imparts education and grooms upcoming

astrologers.

>> > I have learnt a lot from the messages in archies written by your goodself

and all others..

>> > Thanks to all the group members.

>> > Kindly continue to promote astrology in a dignified manner.

>> > If some member with low IQ like me misunderstands, he eventually

understands with time. 

>> >  Regards

>> > Kulbir Bains

>> > ------------ -.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>> >

>> > Wed, 20 January, 2010 8:18:11 PM

>> > Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>> >

>> >  

>> > I was getting tired of that typo in the subject header: " Amuk Amuk will be

NANNED! "

>> >

>> > As if J_R were some North Indian Tandoor or bhatti!

>> >

>> > I sometimes wonder what is it?

>> >

>> > What is Jyotish Remedies Forum's current mandate?

>> >

>> > Despite what the HOME PAGE says!

>> >

>> > Have we changed a bit, have we moved ahead or backwards or have we not

moved at all and remain STATUS QUO?

>> >

>> > What do MEMBERS say?

>> >

>> > WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? Not the few vocal folks with their personal

agendas but I want to hear SINCERELY from the WALLFLOWERS -- THE SILENT

MAJORITY!

>> >

>> > PLEASE OBLIGE ME/US! Come forward and express and see democracy in action!

Without POLYTRICKS or POLITICS!

>> >

>> > Rohiniranjan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Finally can we consider Sudarshana as a Chakra serves better than Sudarshana as

Varga.

What I understand frankly varga is part of whole that is chakra.Also a potential

armour always kept in store?

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

 

 

Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

 

Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gurudev;

Thanks for the correction.

 

" Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that

counts..

-Sir Winston Churchill

 

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of

enthusiasm.

-Sir Winston Churchill

 

Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't

lose.

-Bill Gates "

 Regards

Kulbir Bains

------------ -.

 

-.

 

--- On Thu, 21/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

>rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>

>Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 11:39 PM

>

>

> 

>Unless you are a very detached, sadhu-pravritti, pahunchay huay praani, and

probably you are :-) -- my recommendation would be to not just take just the

last chart into consideration. We all must learn from our successes and

failures, but not just the last one because then lessons will be lost and we

would be drawing the chart in the sand and retaining nothing :-)

>

>Most regular human beings learn through multiplicity of experiences, or else it

could become very chaotic! The bipolar highs and lows of successes and failures

would be damaging to the frail human psyche..

>

>RR

>

>, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Jha ji;

>> The criteria is simple;

>> No astrologer is better or worse than the last/latest chart analysed by

him/her.

>>  Regards

>> Kulbir Bains

>> ------------ -.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ____________ _________ _________ __

>> VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

>>

>> Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:40:37 AM

>> Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>>

>>  

>> Rohini Da,

>>

>> I am sure the " silent majority " wants :

>>

>> (1)correct chart analysis free of cost,

>>

>> (2)some good discussion about particular or general astrological issues

without personal attacks.

>>

>> Both issues are correlated, because correct chart analysis often entails some

discussion. Both these issues are helpful for so-called experts as well as for

so-called laymen.

>>

>> " So-called " is not used here against anyone; I really wonder sometimes how to

differentiate an expert of astrology from a layman. It is because mostly a

layman does not stick to any dogma and keeps his/her options open, and is

therefore better placed for learning something than the hardened and ossified

expert who can only teach.

>>

>> -VJ

>> ============ ====== ===

>> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

>> >

>> > Dear Sir RR JI;

>> > I have learnt a lot since i joined this group.

>> > Babu Suresh ji tried to explain invaluable information to me but i took it

like an offence.

>> > Very late i realised what he intended to mean.

>> > He advised me to see the correlation between lalkitab and other

classics.

>> > This gave birth to a question.

>> > Can a person with Virgo lagan do pitri rin remedy for mercury as suggested

by lalkitab.

>> > I put this question to big names in lalkitab and thry are banging

their heads against walls to find out the answer.

>> > There can be such misunderstandings (as i misinterpreted Babu Suresh Ji).

but the group is a respected platform and imparts education and grooms upcoming

astrologers.

>> > I have learnt a lot from the messages in archies written by your goodself

and all others..

>> > Thanks to all the group members.

>> > Kindly continue to promote astrology in a dignified manner.

>> > If some member with low IQ like me misunderstands, he eventually

understands with time. 

>> >  Regards

>> > Kulbir Bains

>> > ------------ -.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>> >

>> > Wed, 20 January, 2010 8:18:11 PM

>> > Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>> >

>> >  

>> > I was getting tired of that typo in the subject header: " Amuk Amuk will be

NANNED! "

>> >

>> > As if J_R were some North Indian Tandoor or bhatti!

>> >

>> > I sometimes wonder what is it?

>> >

>> > What is Jyotish Remedies Forum's current mandate?

>> >

>> > Despite what the HOME PAGE says!

>> >

>> > Have we changed a bit, have we moved ahead or backwards or have we not

moved at all and remain STATUS QUO?

>> >

>> > What do MEMBERS say?

>> >

>> > WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? Not the few vocal folks with their personal

agendas but I want to hear SINCERELY from the WALLFLOWERS -- THE SILENT

MAJORITY!

>> >

>> > PLEASE OBLIGE ME/US! Come forward and express and see democracy in action!

Without POLYTRICKS or POLITICS!

>> >

>> > Rohiniranjan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Kulbir ji,

 

Thanks for those REMINDERS!

 

Regards,

Nandini

 

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

>

>

>  

>

> Dear Gurudev;

> Thanks for the correction.

>

> " Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue

that counts..

> -Sir Winston Churchill

>

> Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of

enthusiasm.

> -Sir Winston Churchill

>

> Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't

lose.

> -Bill Gates "

>  Regards

> Kulbir Bains

> -------------.

-.

>

> --- On Thu, 21/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> >rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> >Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >

> >Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 11:39 PM

> >

> >

> > 

> >Unless you are a very detached, sadhu-pravritti, pahunchay huay praani, and

probably you are :-) -- my recommendation would be to not just take just the

last chart into consideration. We all must learn from our successes and

failures, but not just the last one because then lessons will be lost and we

would be drawing the chart in the sand and retaining nothing :-)

> >

> >Most regular human beings learn through multiplicity of experiences, or else

it could become very chaotic! The bipolar highs and lows of successes and

failures would be damaging to the frail human psyche..

> >

> >RR

> >

> >, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Jha ji;

> >> The criteria is simple;

> >> No astrologer is better or worse than the last/latest chart analysed by

him/her.

> >>  Regards

> >> Kulbir Bains

> >> ------------ -.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

> >>

> >> Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:40:37 AM

> >> Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >>

> >>  

> >> Rohini Da,

> >>

> >> I am sure the " silent majority " wants :

> >>

> >> (1)correct chart analysis free of cost,

> >>

> >> (2)some good discussion about particular or general astrological issues

without personal attacks.

> >>

> >> Both issues are correlated, because correct chart analysis often entails

some discussion. Both these issues are helpful for so-called experts as well as

for so-called laymen.

> >>

> >> " So-called " is not used here against anyone; I really wonder sometimes how

to differentiate an expert of astrology from a layman. It is because mostly a

layman does not stick to any dogma and keeps his/her options open, and is

therefore better placed for learning something than the hardened and ossified

expert who can only teach.

> >>

> >> -VJ

> >> ============ ====== ===

> >> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sir RR JI;

> >> > I have learnt a lot since i joined this group.

> >> > Babu Suresh ji tried to explain invaluable information to me but i took

it like an offence.

> >> > Very late i realised what he intended to mean.

> >> > He advised me to see the correlation between lalkitab and other

classics.

> >> > This gave birth to a question.

> >> > Can a person with Virgo lagan do pitri rin remedy for mercury as

suggested by lalkitab.

> >> > I put this question to big names in lalkitab and thry are banging

their heads against walls to find out the answer.

> >> > There can be such misunderstandings (as i misinterpreted Babu Suresh Ji).

but the group is a respected platform and imparts education and grooms upcoming

astrologers.

> >> > I have learnt a lot from the messages in archies written by your goodself

and all others..

> >> > Thanks to all the group members.

> >> > Kindly continue to promote astrology in a dignified manner.

> >> > If some member with low IQ like me misunderstands, he eventually

understands with time. 

> >> >  Regards

> >> > Kulbir Bains

> >> > ------------ -.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >> >

> >> > Wed, 20 January, 2010 8:18:11 PM

> >> > Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >> >

> >> >  

> >> > I was getting tired of that typo in the subject header: " Amuk Amuk will

be NANNED! "

> >> >

> >> > As if J_R were some North Indian Tandoor or bhatti!

> >> >

> >> > I sometimes wonder what is it?

> >> >

> >> > What is Jyotish Remedies Forum's current mandate?

> >> >

> >> > Despite what the HOME PAGE says!

> >> >

> >> > Have we changed a bit, have we moved ahead or backwards or have we not

moved at all and remain STATUS QUO?

> >> >

> >> > What do MEMBERS say?

> >> >

> >> > WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? Not the few vocal folks with their personal

agendas but I want to hear SINCERELY from the WALLFLOWERS -- THE SILENT

MAJORITY!

> >> >

> >> > PLEASE OBLIGE ME/US! Come forward and express and see democracy in

action! Without POLYTRICKS or POLITICS!

> >> >

> >> > Rohiniranjan

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Krishnan Dada,

 

All three charts in the Sudarshan Kundali (lagna, sun, moon) belong to the same

varga (=kshetra), therefore naming it as a " varga " could create confusion

(something that seems to be created rather easily in modern students as I

gathered from someone's post here recently!). Hence, I would shy away from

calling it a Varga! There have already been created extra vargas in the past,

over and above the basic 16, vargas such as panchamsha, ashtamsha and more are

being described which will make the kaleidoscope so complex that only the finest

minds will be able to decipher or utilize these. And there are also the modern

variants of the standard vargas which make for very interesting perspectives and

sometimes throw light on the somewhat confusing Hora and Trishamsha, for

instance, as described in BPHS as well as the trine-based drekkanas.

 

But like I recently wrote somewhere, " What is in a name...? " . Though in the

recent EST magazine an article writes about the magical energy that is embedded

in a vedic name.

 

Sudarshana Kundali composite gives a interesting glimpse into the deciphering of

the unfolding of the Yogas (and arishtas) and also what I found of great benefit

in BPHS in that chapter was the clear hierarchy of responsibility of planets in

a kundali, Kshetra for sure but perhaps other vargas also.

 

Chotay munh badi baat! I better shut up before the warriors pounce on the poor

little, lovable ant, once again ;-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Finally can we consider Sudarshana as a Chakra serves better than Sudarshana

as Varga.

> What I understand frankly varga is part of whole that is chakra.Also a

potential armour always kept in store?

>

>

> Vattem Krishnan

> Cyber Jyotish Services

> (For all counseling services)

> Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them "

> Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>  

>

> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

>

>

> Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

> Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

>

> Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:29 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

>  

>

> Dear Gurudev;

> Thanks for the correction.

>

> " Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue

that counts..

> -Sir Winston Churchill

>

> Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of

enthusiasm.

> -Sir Winston Churchill

>

> Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't

lose.

> -Bill Gates "

>  Regards

> Kulbir Bains

> ------------ -.

>

> -.

>

> --- On Thu, 21/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> >rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> >Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >

> >Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 11:39 PM

> >

> >

> > 

> >Unless you are a very detached, sadhu-pravritti, pahunchay huay praani, and

probably you are :-) -- my recommendation would be to not just take just the

last chart into consideration. We all must learn from our successes and

failures, but not just the last one because then lessons will be lost and we

would be drawing the chart in the sand and retaining nothing :-)

> >

> >Most regular human beings learn through multiplicity of experiences, or else

it could become very chaotic! The bipolar highs and lows of successes and

failures would be damaging to the frail human psyche..

> >

> >RR

> >

> >, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Jha ji;

> >> The criteria is simple;

> >> No astrologer is better or worse than the last/latest chart analysed by

him/her.

> >>  Regards

> >> Kulbir Bains

> >> ------------ -.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

> >>

> >> Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:40:37 AM

> >> Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >>

> >>  

> >> Rohini Da,

> >>

> >> I am sure the " silent majority " wants :

> >>

> >> (1)correct chart analysis free of cost,

> >>

> >> (2)some good discussion about particular or general astrological issues

without personal attacks.

> >>

> >> Both issues are correlated, because correct chart analysis often entails

some discussion. Both these issues are helpful for so-called experts as well as

for so-called laymen.

> >>

> >> " So-called " is not used here against anyone; I really wonder sometimes how

to differentiate an expert of astrology from a layman. It is because mostly a

layman does not stick to any dogma and keeps his/her options open, and is

therefore better placed for learning something than the hardened and ossified

expert who can only teach.

> >>

> >> -VJ

> >> ============ ====== ===

> >> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sir RR JI;

> >> > I have learnt a lot since i joined this group.

> >> > Babu Suresh ji tried to explain invaluable information to me but i took

it like an offence.

> >> > Very late i realised what he intended to mean.

> >> > He advised me to see the correlation between lalkitab and other

classics.

> >> > This gave birth to a question.

> >> > Can a person with Virgo lagan do pitri rin remedy for mercury as

suggested by lalkitab.

> >> > I put this question to big names in lalkitab and thry are banging

their heads against walls to find out the answer.

> >> > There can be such misunderstandings (as i misinterpreted Babu Suresh Ji).

but the group is a respected platform and imparts education and grooms upcoming

astrologers.

> >> > I have learnt a lot from the messages in archies written by your goodself

and all others..

> >> > Thanks to all the group members.

> >> > Kindly continue to promote astrology in a dignified manner.

> >> > If some member with low IQ like me misunderstands, he eventually

understands with time. 

> >> >  Regards

> >> > Kulbir Bains

> >> > ------------ -.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >> >

> >> > Wed, 20 January, 2010 8:18:11 PM

> >> > Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >> >

> >> >  

> >> > I was getting tired of that typo in the subject header: " Amuk Amuk will

be NANNED! "

> >> >

> >> > As if J_R were some North Indian Tandoor or bhatti!

> >> >

> >> > I sometimes wonder what is it?

> >> >

> >> > What is Jyotish Remedies Forum's current mandate?

> >> >

> >> > Despite what the HOME PAGE says!

> >> >

> >> > Have we changed a bit, have we moved ahead or backwards or have we not

moved at all and remain STATUS QUO?

> >> >

> >> > What do MEMBERS say?

> >> >

> >> > WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? Not the few vocal folks with their personal

agendas but I want to hear SINCERELY from the WALLFLOWERS -- THE SILENT

MAJORITY!

> >> >

> >> > PLEASE OBLIGE ME/US! Come forward and express and see democracy in

action! Without POLYTRICKS or POLITICS!

> >> >

> >> > Rohiniranjan

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Gee, I hope you were not referring to me as 'Gurudev'? I do not have the white

flowing mane and beard (like Santa Claus) or the poetical/philosophical

abilities that are required for that title! ;-)

 

RR

 

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:

>

>

>  

>

> Dear Gurudev;

> Thanks for the correction.

>

> " Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue

that counts..

> -Sir Winston Churchill

>

> Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of

enthusiasm.

> -Sir Winston Churchill

>

> Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't

lose.

> -Bill Gates "

>  Regards

> Kulbir Bains

> -------------.

-.

>

> --- On Thu, 21/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> >rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> >Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >

> >Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 11:39 PM

> >

> >

> > 

> >Unless you are a very detached, sadhu-pravritti, pahunchay huay praani, and

probably you are :-) -- my recommendation would be to not just take just the

last chart into consideration. We all must learn from our successes and

failures, but not just the last one because then lessons will be lost and we

would be drawing the chart in the sand and retaining nothing :-)

> >

> >Most regular human beings learn through multiplicity of experiences, or else

it could become very chaotic! The bipolar highs and lows of successes and

failures would be damaging to the frail human psyche..

> >

> >RR

> >

> >, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Jha ji;

> >> The criteria is simple;

> >> No astrologer is better or worse than the last/latest chart analysed by

him/her.

> >>  Regards

> >> Kulbir Bains

> >> ------------ -.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

> >>

> >> Thu, 21 January, 2010 7:40:37 AM

> >> Re: Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >>

> >>  

> >> Rohini Da,

> >>

> >> I am sure the " silent majority " wants :

> >>

> >> (1)correct chart analysis free of cost,

> >>

> >> (2)some good discussion about particular or general astrological issues

without personal attacks.

> >>

> >> Both issues are correlated, because correct chart analysis often entails

some discussion. Both these issues are helpful for so-called experts as well as

for so-called laymen.

> >>

> >> " So-called " is not used here against anyone; I really wonder sometimes how

to differentiate an expert of astrology from a layman. It is because mostly a

layman does not stick to any dogma and keeps his/her options open, and is

therefore better placed for learning something than the hardened and ossified

expert who can only teach.

> >>

> >> -VJ

> >> ============ ====== ===

> >> , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Dear Sir RR JI;

> >> > I have learnt a lot since i joined this group.

> >> > Babu Suresh ji tried to explain invaluable information to me but i took

it like an offence.

> >> > Very late i realised what he intended to mean.

> >> > He advised me to see the correlation between lalkitab and other

classics.

> >> > This gave birth to a question.

> >> > Can a person with Virgo lagan do pitri rin remedy for mercury as

suggested by lalkitab.

> >> > I put this question to big names in lalkitab and thry are banging

their heads against walls to find out the answer.

> >> > There can be such misunderstandings (as i misinterpreted Babu Suresh Ji).

but the group is a respected platform and imparts education and grooms upcoming

astrologers.

> >> > I have learnt a lot from the messages in archies written by your goodself

and all others..

> >> > Thanks to all the group members.

> >> > Kindly continue to promote astrology in a dignified manner.

> >> > If some member with low IQ like me misunderstands, he eventually

understands with time. 

> >> >  Regards

> >> > Kulbir Bains

> >> > ------------ -.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >> >

> >> > Wed, 20 January, 2010 8:18:11 PM

> >> > Sudarshana Chakra became Sudarshana Varga!

> >> >

> >> >  

> >> > I was getting tired of that typo in the subject header: " Amuk Amuk will

be NANNED! "

> >> >

> >> > As if J_R were some North Indian Tandoor or bhatti!

> >> >

> >> > I sometimes wonder what is it?

> >> >

> >> > What is Jyotish Remedies Forum's current mandate?

> >> >

> >> > Despite what the HOME PAGE says!

> >> >

> >> > Have we changed a bit, have we moved ahead or backwards or have we not

moved at all and remain STATUS QUO?

> >> >

> >> > What do MEMBERS say?

> >> >

> >> > WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANT? Not the few vocal folks with their personal

agendas but I want to hear SINCERELY from the WALLFLOWERS -- THE SILENT

MAJORITY!

> >> >

> >> > PLEASE OBLIGE ME/US! Come forward and express and see democracy in

action! Without POLYTRICKS or POLITICS!

> >> >

> >> > Rohiniranjan

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinay_jee (the hyphen in the earlier message to which you took askance was

intende to be an underscore like in this one. Sorry for my lazy left pinkie for

not holding the SHIFT key down and giving you the impression that subtraction

was implied!),

 

I will respect your desire or lack thereof to read a reply or explanation from

me! I will simply give you the bottom line! :-)

 

You were grossly overinterpreting and overreacting as sometimes you do, and

mistakenly assuming that my message had some complex meaning or double entendres

that were directed at you specifically or that I intended to assume that you or

others had no answers to my simple questions!

 

But I cannot fix the entire world's telescopes and periscopes and kaleidoscopes,

can I?

 

PERCEPTION IS REALITY!

 

At least for nearly all human beings, most of the times!

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

<<Please note: I am removing the long thread just to conserve space and with

absolutely no ulterior or nefarious motives on my part!>>

 

 

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>...

 

> There is no need to answer or to provide explanations, although you will

probably not heed this last request...

 

>

> -VJ

> ========================= ===

[Guest guest]

Rohini Da,

 

<<<

You were grossly overinterpreting and overreacting as sometimes you do, and

mistakenly assuming that my message had some complex meaning or double entendres

that were directed at you specifically or that I intended to assume that you or

others had no answers to my simple questions!

>>>

 

I know you are not biased, but now I have learnt from you that carelessness

about internet fora is a virtue. If I offended you, I apologise. I am so busy

and mobile that I have procured a vehicle which I can use as a residence :

" ramataa jogi bahataa paani " .

 

-VJ

==================== =====

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay_jee (the hyphen in the earlier message to which you took askance

was intende to be an underscore like in this one. Sorry for my lazy left pinkie

for not holding the SHIFT key down and giving you the impression that

subtraction was implied!),

>

> I will respect your desire or lack thereof to read a reply or explanation from

me! I will simply give you the bottom line! :-)

>

> You were grossly overinterpreting and overreacting as sometimes you do, and

mistakenly assuming that my message had some complex meaning or double entendres

that were directed at you specifically or that I intended to assume that you or

others had no answers to my simple questions!

>

> But I cannot fix the entire world's telescopes and periscopes and

kaleidoscopes, can I?

>

> PERCEPTION IS REALITY!

>

> At least for nearly all human beings, most of the times!

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> <<Please note: I am removing the long thread just to conserve space and with

absolutely no ulterior or nefarious motives on my part!>>

>

>

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >...

>

> > There is no need to answer or to provide explanations, although you will

probably not heed this last request...

>

> >

> > -VJ

> > ========================= ===

>