Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi AMENDED

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Tiny grammatical detail (neither must be followed by nor!) that was missed in

earlier post. Sorry!

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Lilly,

>

> When I utilize the term MAN, please include Women too (In the sense of MANKIND

and nothing to do with RIBS, even though they are the closest to one's HEART

Chakra! ;-))

>

> That caveat aside, you reminded me of Misir-Jee, my sanskrit teacher (hyphen

intentional, but I will talk more about that later perhaps!)

>

> Some religions say, First there was Light!

>

> Some take it literally to mean the sun and moon!

>

> I had always wondered about that and pored over than, in the little rock

forest we had where I grew up. It had rocks and an amazing collection of trees,

plants, cactii and I was always curious about what dwelled within those rocks?

There were all kinds of beautiful insects and animals. There were ants,

scorpions and there were those beautiful Cobra snakes that showed up from time

to time! If one had pure intentions and offered them the chance to heal one's

naturally- " conditioned " fears -- something only a trusting child could manage,

they never hurt the little boy. Each monsoon as the huge round field just in

front of the 'forest' got filled with water and cobras arose panickingly out of

their holes and homes essentially in panic and the gardeners began beating them

in human panic, a little boy watched wistfully, neither understanding why the

'friends' were so threatening to these otherwise wonderful human beings who

would willingly kill to protect him (the little TA), were so CRUEL on his

wonderful friends: The cobras! NOR coming to terms with the fact that he could

not rush out to help his friends: The cobras! The Malis would have listened to

him, I am sure!!

>

> LILLY -- First there was THOUGHT! Arising as it ONLY can out of CONSCIOUSNESS!

Perhaps then came Brahma and other Imageries! I have no PROOF! :-(

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Apparently, Brahma may not be the first creator!! A force much bigger, more

potent, and powerful, yet so subtle, and hidden called " FATHER " or the SEED who

even created her..

> > In the Gita it is said " Ahem Beejam Praveshyam.. " He(who has no father

grater than him) enters, but is not born through a mother!

> > Father of all fathers, great-great grandfather of all which has no father

above him also called " Supreme Father " beeja(seed) who is sukhsham (subtler than

subtle) enters the intellect of buddhi roopi dharni Ma " Brahma " in the beeja

roopa (seed stage) and gives the knowledge of creation..After the seeds has been

planted in the womb intellect of Brahma Ma, creation takes place!!Hence, Brahma

Ma becomes the first creation and is also called the oldest/ eldest Mother!

Jagat Jannani Jagdamba, Adi shakti Maheswari...Somehow, somewhere the notion of

Brahma Ma as the creator came in lime light, and Beeja Baap was put into the

back-burner and forgotten!

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > " scriptures were also written by MEN "

> > >

> > > No, many WOMEN women were also Vedic rishis.

> > >

> > > Theories are NOW made by mankind, but the original meaning of this term

was related to Devas > Theos. Mankind had no right to concoct theories. Theories

descended from Heavens to enlightened sages. This is not my theory, but what the

most ancient nation in the world believed since time immemorial.

> > >

> > > Those who think sensorily tangible Shrishti to be Real find it hard to

imagine that an intangible thing like " Consciousness " of Brahmaa Ji can create

any sensorily tangible material entity. Why the human sensory organs must be

made the criterion of truth ? If humans cannot perceive a thing, that thing must

not exist : it is human egotism and not Reality. Matter is defined by properties

which are sensorily perceptible either directly or indirectly. Hence, matter

depends on sense organs for its very existence. If sense organs do not exist,

matter will lose any definition at all. Reality is beyond sense organs and

beyond sensorily perceived world. Reality is not the Perceived material world,

but the Perceiver, who is one and the same as the Universal Spirit but exists in

innumerable forms known as Jeevas due to bonds of desire generated by and

generating karmas. This Reality is immortal, beyond Time and Space. Its eternal

or sanatana well being is ensured by Sanatana Dharma. Its knowledge is called

Veda, whose eye is Jyotisha which makes us see fruits of past actions including

those of past lives and confirms our faith in the existence of this eternal

reality in us and induces us to act for its temporal as well as eternal well

being.

> > >

> > > -VJ

> > > ======================= ==

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Good start! Let us begin and go from there...

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Theories are made my mankind, and " reality " - that I am not sure about,

PAPA Ji!!Books, and scriptures were also written by MEN even if it was 1000's of

years ago..Everything is still a blur to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Why do you think it is a 'theory' and not reality? History of

Mankind :-) ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe

with his sankalap (mind/thoughts)! At the beginning of the process of creation

Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the fathers of the human

race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 heavenly bodies) to help him

create the universe. However since all these sons of his were born out of his

mind rather than body, they are called Manas Putras/mind-sons/spirits..Brahma is

also said to be son of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known

as Prakrti or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia)..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with

this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if Brahma can

create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also have a chance to

create our own destiny!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Unwritten "

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined

> > > > > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned

> > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines

> > > > > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that

way

> > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you

> > > > > > > Open up the dirty window

> > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance

> > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it

> > > > > > > Release your inhibitions

> > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin

> > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you

> > > > > > > Only you can let it in

> > > > > > > No one else, no one else

> > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips

> > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken

> > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open

> > > > > > > Today is where your book begins

> > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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