Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 An ode to KRISHNA_DADA dur desh ki rehne wali swarg-wasni radha rani dharti paar jaab aaweh to mohan ka dil lehvey taab bhala gopiya kaasey na jaaley taab tak mohan ne jita saab ka dil aab rani ne mohan ko jita! taab kaam dev aur Brhama dev dohno hi ghabravey Ab ees dharti pay kya kya hoga Aab to nayi shristi phir rachey gai Brhama! Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sagar manthan,only in case of exreem complexities.otherwise chintan or Manan through manthan is only a daily affair and is often futile To do things not in reach like shrishti need only Brhama Sankalp . > (Sankalp)Thought to " seed " Dharani(Shrishti)is essential and solicit " brahma " to develop(rachi) to progress could be a sequential approach from human perspective > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 9:43 AM > > >  > > > > > The SEED/SPIRIT/ ATMA/SOUL/ or simply " THOUGHTS " is where it all lies..There can be no roots, tree, or the fruit, without the SEED!! And the SEED must also be planted in the DHARNI first before the tree and fruits can even show up. > > There is " MANAAN CHINTHAN MANTHAN " (churn on the mind) and there is > " VICHAAR SAGAAR MANTHAN " (churn on the ocean)!! > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > Unless you remember clearly your last birth, Santhosh jee-- > > > > WE ALL BEGIN NOW! Don't worry about the CLOCK or clock!! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan! > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > > > > Ok let me rephrase. i wanted to know how many years back was the beginning. like say 10000 years back, or 99000 years back etc. year zero is not helping me. or it can behow many earth years it has been since year zero. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > santhosh > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:40:23 PM > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > >  > > > Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO! > > > For MOST OF US! Please do scroll! > > > > > > OBVIOUSLY! > > > > > > Sznthoshjee, > > > > > > Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we did! Look at your birtchart! Simple...! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > > can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year? > > > > i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum. > > > > i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM > > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > > > >  > > > > Sir, > > > > Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted. > > > > A meaningful approach that " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very positive frame work. > > > > Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas.. > > > >  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> > > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > > > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnanji, > > > > > > > > The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a > > > > tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both > > > > cases. > > > > > > > > Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny > > > > that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new > > > > karma while the other is the result of previous karma. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Shastri Ji > > > > > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue > > > > > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.. > > > > > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir, > > > > > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level > > > > > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is > > > > > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals. > > > > > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is > > > > > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise > > > > > finally. It is matter of determination. > > > > > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and > > > > > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to > > > > > fulfil one'e ambition > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk > > > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk > > > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> > > > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > > > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > > > > > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>> > > > > > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration, > > > > > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply > > > > > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With > > > > > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it > > > > > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. " > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > > > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with > > > > > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of > > > > > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the > > > > > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 > > > > > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all > > > > > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are > > > > > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son > > > > > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti > > > > > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia).. > > > > > > > > > > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with > > > > > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if > > > > > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also > > > > > > have a chance to create our own destiny!! > > > > > > > > > > > > " Unwritten " > > > > > > > > > > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined > > > > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you > > > > > > Open up the dirty window > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it > > > > > > Release your inhibitions > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten > > > > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines > > > > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you > > > > > > Open up the dirty window > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it > > > > > > Release your inhibitions > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten > > > > > > > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you > > > > > > Open up the dirty window > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find > > > > > > > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it > > > > > > Release your inhibitions > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 friends, For every thing sankalp becomes most essential.when one wants to achieve,then the seriousness is brahma sankalp.. with this any thing is possible to create.one needs however that emotion that he /she wants.Planets help us when there is sakalp.It v as brahmas make and unmake As all of us know that moon as manokarak when in own sign and is creative planet gives,thoughts that can be poetic expressions. " Khyal karo taaron ke gati,prem se bulaao chand ma ko ab door karo chinta aur khyal karo taaron ko,baadalon hai to kya ab kaam dev jud jate hai brhma dev ke saath hota hi hai shrishti rani aave ,mohan jaave,yeh sab hai hi manthan ke chintan door kyaa nazdeek kya yeah sab badalon ka chinta " Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Re: Brhama Ki sankalpo... Saturday, January 23, 2010, 1:28 PM  An ode to KRISHNA_DADA dur desh ki rehne wali swarg-wasni radha rani dharti paar jaab aaweh to mohan ka dil lehvey taab bhala gopiya kaasey na jaaley taab tak mohan ne jita saab ka dil aab rani ne mohan ko jita! taab kaam dev aur Brhama dev dohno hi ghabravey Ab ees dharti pay kya kya hoga Aab to nayi shristi phir rachey gai Brhama! Lilly , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ...> wrote: > > Sagar manthan,only in case of exreem complexities. otherwise chintan or Manan through manthan is only a daily affair and is often futile To do things not in reach like shrishti need only Brhama Sankalp . > (Sankalp)Thought to " seed " Dharani( Shrishti) is essential and solicit " brahma " to develop(rachi) to progress could be a sequential approach from human perspective > > > Vattem Krishnan > Cyber Jyotish Services > (For all counseling services) > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma >  > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 9:43 AM > > >  > > > > > The SEED/SPIRIT/ ATMA/SOUL/ or simply " THOUGHTS " is where it all lies...There can be no roots, tree, or the fruit, without the SEED!! And the SEED must also be planted in the DHARNI first before the tree and fruits can even show up. > > There is " MANAAN CHINTHAN MANTHAN " (churn on the mind) and there is > " VICHAAR SAGAAR MANTHAN " (churn on the ocean)!! > > Lilly > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ .....> wrote: > > > > Unless you remember clearly your last birth, Santhosh jee-- > > > > WE ALL BEGIN NOW! Don't worry about the CLOCK or clock!! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan! > > > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > > > > Ok let me rephrase. i wanted to know how many years back was the beginning. like say 10000 years back, or 99000 years back etc. year zero is not helping me. or it can behow many earth years it has been since year zero. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > santhosh > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ > > > > > > > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:40:23 PM > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > >  > > > Why Santhosh jee -- That was the YEAR ZERO! > > > For MOST OF US! Please do scroll! > > > > > > OBVIOUSLY! > > > > > > Sznthoshjee, > > > > > > Actually, it is when personal reality began! The YEAR ZERO began when we did! Look at your birtchart! Simple...! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Santhosh <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > > > > > can you tell me when was this first yuga running in terms of earth year? > > > > i have a specific reason to ask this. i will get back to you after i know the above answer either from you or anybody else in the forum. > > > > i am asking for any proof for it. i would just like to know as per tradition/myth or as per purana when did the first yuga begin? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> > > > > > > > > Sat, 23 January, 2010 3:11:16 PM > > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > > > >  > > > > Sir, > > > > Transitional issues known through ''Yugas " have to be seen that every person born is guided properly and the bad or evil that troubles and compels humans are not left at the mercy of unknown/evil minds(asuras) by their hold on Shristi.Scope for sanitisation is the perspective in different yugas so that total protection from the Super Power is believed and trusted. > > > > A meaningful approach that " Aham " promotes " brih " In the 'shristi " is a Very positive frame work. > > > > Every ordinary person that can understand " Brahma " ''Shristi " need not be necessarily find issues as complex.as actions'otherwise Known through Karmas have to be performed in such a way that postive out look of shisht is maintained.Options before him are to perform karmas with the faith in superpower and to make an effort to reduce the burden that is carried of past karmas.. > > > >  Those bewildered with so many things around him have only to be grateful to the God as an opportunity given to reform and develop. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > >  > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 1/23/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk> > > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > > > > Saturday, January 23, 2010, 3:28 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dear Krishnanji, > > > > > > > > The root for Brahma is " brih " meaning 'to grow'. A seed grows into a > > > > tree; thoughts grow into action - fruit being the final outcome in both > > > > cases. > > > > > > > > Of course, so thin is the dividing line between free will and destiny > > > > that it is not easy to differentiate between the two. One creates new > > > > karma while the other is the result of previous karma. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > On 1/22/2010 12:12 AM, Vattem Krishnan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Shastri Ji > > > > > Infact you have given life to the thread.Infact a philosophical issue > > > > > when considered as relevant to astral level,it changes the out look.. > > > > > and meaning of this topic.Kudos Sir, > > > > > This is exactly we find find free will to operate. The Astral level > > > > > implications making headaway through Lagna,pancham and navam is > > > > > realisation of ambitions or fulfilling the ideals. > > > > > That is how the story of Infosys,Reliance and Tata. Their sankalp is > > > > > beyond their faculties that made them to deram,work and realise > > > > > finally. It is matter of determination. > > > > > The creation of universe in a metaphorical sense is brahma sankalp and > > > > > it individual one can also think and make a meaningful creation to > > > > > fulfil one'e ambition > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services > > > > > (For all counseling services) > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk > > > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Amitabh Shastri <amitabh_shastri@ .co. uk > > > > > <amitabh_ shastri%40. co.uk>> > > > > > Re: Brahma ki sankalpo se shristi rachi > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> > > > > > Cc: " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > > > > > <tigresslill y2005%40. com>> > > > > > Friday, January 22, 2010, 2:42 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " A thought held in your imagination, with focus and concentration, > > > > > backed by the force of your will and desire will become imprinted deeply > > > > > on your sub-conscious mind and take form on the astral level. With > > > > > repeated visualizations it will gather energy and power till it > > > > > eventually manifests itself as a physical reality. " > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Amitabh Shastri > > > > > > > > > > On 1/21/2010 4:11 PM, Lilly wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said in the scripitures that BRAHMA created this universe with > > > > > > his sankalap (mind/thoughts) ! At the beginning of the process of > > > > > > creation Brahma created 11 Prajapatis who are believed to be the > > > > > > fathers of the human race..He also created the 7 sages/ Saptarishi(7 > > > > > > heavenly bodies) to help him create the universe. However since all > > > > > > these sons of his were born out of his mind rather than body, they are > > > > > > called Manas Putras/mind- sons/spirits. .Brahma is also said to be son > > > > > > of the Supreme Being, Brahman, and the female energy known as Prakrti > > > > > > or Maya(By the way all this information is on Wikipedia).. > > > > > > > > > > > > I found a beautiful song called " Unwritten " that ties up well with > > > > > > this whole BRAHMA's creation theory..It just got me thinking that if > > > > > > Brahma can create his universe from his mind/thoughts; maybe we also > > > > > > have a chance to create our own destiny!! > > > > > > > > > > > > " Unwritten " > > > > > > > > > > > > I am unwritten, can't read my mind, I'm undefined > > > > > > I'm just beginning, the pen's in my hand, ending unplanned > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you > > > > > > Open up the dirty window > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it > > > > > > Release your inhibitions > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten > > > > > > I break tradition, sometimes my tries, are outside the lines > > > > > > We've been conditioned to not make mistakes, but I can't live that way > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you > > > > > > Open up the dirty window > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it > > > > > > Release your inhibitions > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten > > > > > > > > > > > > Staring at the blank page before you > > > > > > Open up the dirty window > > > > > > Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find > > > > > > > > > > > > Reaching for something in the distance > > > > > > So close you can almost taste it > > > > > > Release your inhibitions > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel the rain on your skin > > > > > > No one else can feel it for you > > > > > > Only you can let it in > > > > > > No one else, no one else > > > > > > Can speak the words on your lips > > > > > > Drench yourself in words unspoken > > > > > > Live your life with arms wide open > > > > > > Today is where your book begins > > > > > > The rest is still unwritten > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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