Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds wrote: hrn_ds <hrn_ds A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM  hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, PLease justify the statement : A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE regards, hiren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 hello, no i meant to astros, do destiny makes one a king or the enviornment or hurdles faced by a person his experience makes one a king . regards, hiren , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds wrote: > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM >  > > > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > > > PLease justify the statement : > > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > regards, > > hiren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hello, You Know that time and tide waits for no man.Environment needed.That is Bhagya.Rest the ambitions.Otherwise Hope Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds wrote: hrn_ds <hrn_ds Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 7:34 AM  hello, no i meant to astros, do destiny makes one a king or the enviornment or hurdles faced by a person his experience makes one a king . regards, hiren , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ...> wrote: > > So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds wrote: > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > > > PLease justify the statement : > > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > regards, > > hiren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 thnks , rgds, hiren , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Hello, > You Know that time and tide waits for no man.Environment needed.That is Bhagya.Rest the ambitions.Otherwise Hope > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds wrote: > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 7:34 AM >  > > > hello, > > > > no i meant to astros, do destiny makes one a king or the enviornment or hurdles faced by a person his experience makes one a king . > > regards, > > hiren > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds@> wrote: > > > > > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds@> > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > > > > > > > > > > > PLease justify the statement : > > > > > > > > > > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > hiren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Sir,Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified in this regard.King/Queen always comes out from the royal family.A Jackal can never be king of Jungle.The Lion is born King of Jungle.A person can't be a king/queen,if there is no Raj Yog in his/her chart & if he/she is not born in royal family.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard. Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Tue, January 26, 2010 5:58:55 PM Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE  So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds > wrote: hrn_ds <hrn_ds > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM  hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, PLease justify the statement : A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE regards, hiren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Sir,Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified in this regard.King/Queen always comes out from the royal family.A Jackal can never be king of Jungle.The Lion is born King of Jungle.A person can't be a king/queen,if there is no Raj Yog in his/her chart & if he/she is not born in royal family.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard.  Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ hrn_ds <hrn_ds Tue, January 26, 2010 4:15:24 PM A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE  hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, PLease justify the statement : A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE regards, hiren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 hello sir, i agree to your point that the LION is the king of jungle . but then a poor or a person born in hut cant build a palace .there are examples where a poor person has raised to heights and has become king of his fields .it is not necessary that the person born in royal family is only entitled to become a king he may loose his kingdom if he is not fit for it. regards, hiren , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Sir,Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified in this regard.King/Queen always comes out from the royal family.A Jackal can never be king of Jungle.The Lion is born King of Jungle.A person can't be a king/queen,if there is no Raj Yog in his/her chart & if he/she is not born in royal family.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard. > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > Tue, January 26, 2010 5:58:55 PM > Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > >  > So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds > wrote: > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM > >  > > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > PLease justify the statement : > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > regards, > > hiren > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Hiren Ji, [1]it is not necessary that the person born in royal family is only entitled to become a king he may loose his kingdom if he is not fit for it. Answer- I have replied you about the fittest*person and not about unfit.Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard. [2]-but then a poor or a person born in hut cant build a palace . Answer-Certainly a poor person can build a palace,if there is possibility of richness in his/her chart and life .But a person who can erect a palace is not always treated as king /Queen/Price/Princess.Title of King/Queen/Prince/Princess is not purchased.It is always derived by the legal heirs.The richest person of present time may be or may not be first owner of N.Z.A land or property for want of title of king.But even today the Owner of N.Z.A Land or structure standing there upon is king or his legal heirs of concerned City /District, if the government has not *legally* acquired* the very property .If you wish ,you can analyse  richness rules as per k.p or as per classics in the chart of a king.K.P Rules are given here for your convenience----- Why They are Rich? KP-Ezine Nov 2009 KP Rule to be Rich 1. The significators of the houses 2,6,10 and 11 deposited in the sub of the significators of either 2 or 6 or 10 or 11 houses give wealth during the periods of these significators, only when the lord of the sub is good…..One can go through the second volume of Krishnamurti Padhdhati (1966 Sagar Publications) , page 74 (reprinted in KP Reader III pages 181-2/ Old Edition Practical Part page 28). Rule is simple; one universal rule only, which is applicable to one and all…Recent researches have added this vital one, i.e., one should judge the lord of the sub of the 2nd and the 11th cusps. Unless the lord of the sub is the signification of the houses 2,6,10 or 11, one cannot improve his bank position. -Simplicity of Krishnamurti Padhdhati by K.S.K., KP & Astrology 1996 page 78 2. The 2nd bhava cuspal position tells whether one will earn enormous wealth, or….If the 2nd house cuspal position with no connection at all to 5,8,12 and is connected to houses 2,6,10,11, the native is given enormous wealth. -MP Shanmugam, Astrosecrets & KP Vol I page 65 4. How many times of appearance of significators are given in the table below: (in study of the charts of ten self-made billionaires from Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, ........, to Donald Trump) Times of Appearance of Significators Sn Cusp 2nd 6th 10th 11th 5th 8th 12th 1 2nd CSL 7 5 4 6 9 5 5 2 11th CSL 5 8 6 9 8 3 5 3 Average 6 6.5 5 7.5 8.5 4 5 Findings 5. The 2,6 and 11 house signification of 2nd and 11th cuspal sub lord is found significant but 10 is not so significant. 6. The most surprising finding is the strongest appearance of house 5, which indicates the  intelligence to carry out the planning to be rich for these self made billionaires. Note: " Take the planets which are deposited in the sub of the significators whose constellation are not tenanted. " rule is presented by the un-mentioned author in the so-called 'The Golden Rule in KP' article in the 'Astrosecrets & KP' Part II, 2003, pp 194-199.   [3]there are examples where a poor person has raised to heights and has become king of his fields* Answer-But not of kingdome like this* and coronation is neither required nor observed for so called rich person of present time: King..............I,.............II.............................................\ .............................................................................. George III became insane in his later years and blind as well. For nine years before his death his incompetent eldest son governed as prince regent. (This period, 1811–20, is therefore known as the Regency.) On his father's death, the prince regent became King George IV (see George, Kings of England, Scotland, and Ireland).  William IV, brother of George IV, began his short reign in 1830 (see William, Kings of England  William IV died in 1837, in the seventh year of his reign, and Victoria, his 18-year-old niece, became queen of Great Britain . Three years later she married her cousin Albert, a German prince. As prince consort, Albert gave valuable aid to the queen until his death in 1861 (see Victoria, Queen). The young girl entered eagerly upon her new duties. Her long reign, 1837–1901, was to be immensely creative in literature and science, and before its close Britain reached the first place among nations in wealth and power. In the first years of her rule, however, the country seemed to be almost on the verge of revolution. George V died in January 1936, and his eldest son, Edward, the popular prince of Wales, came to the throne as Edward VIII. Before his coronation, the king announced his intention of marrying an American, Mrs. Wallis Warfield Simpson, as soon as her second divorce became absolute. Parliament and the dominions' governments disapproved. Edward abdicated on Dec. 11, 1936, and his brother, the duke of York , was proclaimed king as George VI. (See also Edward, Kings of England; George, Kings of England, Scotland, and Ireland.).......................................................................\ .................................................................................\ ..etc.  [4]In india,there can be no further King/Queen/Prince/Princess.Enforcement of Zamindari Abolition Act,Ceiling act.......etc have Seized the rights of King/queen/ Prince/Princess.Only the names of legal heirs of the king/queen may be incorporated as king or queen as the case may be in place of their ancestors .Thus making of king/Queen has become probably impossible out side the royal family. Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ hrn_ds <hrn_ds Tue, January 26, 2010 9:07:51 PM Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE  hello sir, i agree to your point that the LION is the king of jungle . but then a poor or a person born in hut cant build a palace .there are examples where a poor person has raised to heights and has become king of his fields .it is not necessary that the person born in royal family is only entitled to become a king he may loose his kingdom if he is not fit for it. regards, hiren , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Sir,Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified in this regard.King/ Queen always comes out from the royal family.A Jackal can never be king of Jungle.The Lion is born King of Jungle.A person can't be a king/queen,if there is no Raj Yog in his/her chart & if he/she is not born in royal family.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard. > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > > Tue, January 26, 2010 5:58:55 PM > Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > >  > So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds > wrote: > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM > >  > > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > PLease justify the statement : > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > regards, > > hiren > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dhirendra ji, Very True; Rajiv Gandhi is born to be a king, like her father and mother and others in that family. Sapna ------------------------------- , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Sir,Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified in this regard.King/Queen always comes out from the royal family.A Jackal can never be king of Jungle.The Lion is born King of Jungle.A person can't be a king/queen,if there is no Raj Yog in his/her chart & if he/she is not born in royal family.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard.  > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > > Tue, January 26, 2010 4:15:24 PM > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > >  > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > PLease justify the statement : > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > regards, > hiren > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Dear Sir, Your writings are really appreciable. i have read about billionares self made , like Donald trump who lost wealth two times and yet managed to regain his position,George Soros who was known has pshycic for his trading and was blamed which affected the world economy ,although proved that his capability managed to retain him in world bilionares list even at the ripe age. Bill gates,Warren buffet no doubt thier intelligence made them a billionare. In india one find hierchical born billionares and very few self made . My view was only to prove that as LION IS the king of jungle because LION represents courage and power and that why he deserves his place. it depends one can become a king with his courage or intelligence or power although may born in royal family or a poor man's hut.(although i agree it's a dream for a poor man to become king in india) regards, hiren , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Dear Hiren Ji, > [1]it is not necessary that the person born in royal family is only entitled to become a king he may loose his kingdom if he is not fit for it. > Answer- I have replied you about the fittest*person and not about unfit.Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard. > > > [2]-but then a poor or a person born in hut cant build a palace . > Answer-Certainly a poor person can build a palace,if there is possibility of richness in his/her chart and life .But a person who can erect a palace is not always treated as king /Queen/Price/Princess.Title of King/Queen/Prince/Princess is not purchased.It is always derived by the legal heirs.The richest person of present time may be or may not be first owner of N.Z.A land or property for want of title of king.But even today the Owner of N.Z.A Land or structure standing there upon is king or his legal heirs of concerned City /District, if the government has not *legally* acquired* the very property .If you wish ,you can analyse  richness rules as per k.p or as per classics in the chart of a king.K.P Rules are given here for your convenience----- > Why They are Rich? > KP-Ezine Nov 2009 > KP Rule to be Rich > 1. The significators of the houses 2,6,10 and 11 deposited in the sub of the significators of either 2 or 6 or 10 or 11 houses give wealth during the periods of these significators, only when the lord of the sub is good…..One can go through the second volume of Krishnamurti Padhdhati (1966 Sagar Publications) , page 74 (reprinted in KP Reader III pages 181-2/ Old Edition Practical Part page 28). Rule is simple; one universal rule only, which is applicable to one and all…Recent researches have added this vital one, i.e., one should judge the lord of the sub of the 2nd and the 11th cusps. Unless the lord of the sub is the signification of the houses 2,6,10 or 11, one cannot improve his bank position. > -Simplicity of Krishnamurti Padhdhati by K.S.K., KP & Astrology 1996 page 78 > 2. The 2nd bhava cuspal position tells whether one will earn enormous wealth, or….If the 2nd house cuspal position with no connection at all to 5,8,12 and is connected to houses 2,6,10,11, the native is given enormous wealth. > -MP Shanmugam, Astrosecrets & KP Vol I page 65 > 4. How many times of appearance of significators are given in the table below: (in study of the charts of ten self-made billionaires from Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, ........, to Donald Trump) > Times of Appearance of Significators > Sn Cusp 2nd 6th 10th 11th 5th 8th 12th > 1 2nd CSL 7 5 4 6 9 5 5 > 2 11th CSL 5 8 6 9 8 3 5 > 3 Average 6 6.5 5 7.5 8.5 4 5 > Findings > 5. The 2,6 and 11 house signification of 2nd and 11th cuspal sub lord is found significant but 10 is not so significant. > 6. The most surprising finding is the strongest appearance of house 5, which indicates the  intelligence to carry out the planning to be rich for these self made billionaires. > Note: > " Take the planets which are deposited in the sub of the significators whose constellation are not tenanted. " rule is presented by the un-mentioned author in the so-called 'The Golden Rule in KP' article in the 'Astrosecrets & KP' Part II, 2003, pp 194-199. >  >  > [3]there are examples where a poor person has raised to heights and has become king of his fields* > Answer-But not of kingdome like this* and coronation is neither required nor observed for so called rich person of present time: > King..............I,.............II.............................................\ .............................................................................. > George III became insane in his later years and blind as well. For nine years before his death his incompetent eldest son governed as prince regent. (This period, 1811†" 20, is therefore known as the Regency.) On his father's death, the prince regent became King George IV (see George, Kings of England, Scotland, and Ireland). >  > William IV, brother of George IV, began his short reign in 1830 (see William, Kings of England >  > William IV died in 1837, in the seventh year of his reign, and Victoria, his 18-year-old niece, became queen of Great Britain . Three years later she married her cousin Albert, a German prince. As prince consort, Albert gave valuable aid to the queen until his death in 1861 (see Victoria, Queen). > The young girl entered eagerly upon her new duties. Her long reign, 1837†" 1901, was to be immensely creative in literature and science, and before its close Britain reached the first place among nations in wealth and power. In the first years of her rule, however, the country seemed to be almost on the verge of revolution. > George V died in January 1936, and his eldest son, Edward, the popular prince of Wales, came to the throne as Edward VIII. Before his coronation, the king announced his intention of marrying an American, Mrs. Wallis Warfield Simpson, as soon as her second divorce became absolute. Parliament and the dominions' governments disapproved. Edward abdicated on Dec. 11, 1936, and his brother, the duke of York , was proclaimed king as George VI. (See also Edward, Kings of England; George, Kings of England, Scotland, and Ireland.).......................................................................\ .................................................................................\ ..etc. >  [4]In india,there can be no further King/Queen/Prince/Princess.Enforcement of Zamindari Abolition Act,Ceiling act.......etc have Seized the rights of King/queen/ Prince/Princess.Only the names of legal heirs of the king/queen may be incorporated as king or queen as the case may be in place of their ancestors .Thus making of king/Queen has become probably impossible out side the royal family. > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > > Tue, January 26, 2010 9:07:51 PM > Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > >  > hello sir, > > i agree to your point that the LION is the king of jungle . but then a poor or a person born in hut cant build a palace .there are examples where a poor person has raised to heights and has become king of his fields .it is not necessary that the person born in royal family is only entitled to become a king he may loose his kingdom if he is not fit for it. > > regards, > hiren > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > Sir,Coronation is observed for the fittest* person of the kingdom* at the auspicious moment & fittest person is never made.Who is the fittest person of the kingdom is also governed by the rules already framed & notified in this regard.King/ Queen always comes out from the royal family.A Jackal can never be king of Jungle.The Lion is born King of Jungle.A person can't be a king/queen,if there is no Raj Yog in his/her chart & if he/she is not born in royal family.Mercy of Almighty,planetary configuration in chart & family back ground always play significant role in this regard. > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> > > > > Tue, January 26, 2010 5:58:55 PM > > Re: A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > >  > > So You mean a muhurat and a priest is necessary like swearing in?Please elobarate what you are looking for.it is coronation that makes King. > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > --- On Tue, 1/26/10, hrn_ds <hrn_ds > wrote: > > > > hrn_ds <hrn_ds > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:45 AM > > > >  > > > > hi pranam to all gurujis and renonwned astros, > > > > PLease justify the statement : > > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > regards, > > > > hiren > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Dear Hiren ji,  Kings are not both born and made but it is all destined .  Sometimes when born to a King, the prince will enjoy the life of a King ultimately (which happened most of the time).  When a King is de-throned a new King relished the throne.  But all such events are destined. So you ultimately end up doing what is destined. Astrologers can sometimes predict certain events with 70 percent accuracy and in other cases the accuracy could be 80 or 60 percent ..but this is the limitation of Astrologers (as humans) but when we see more than 50 % accuracy in any case we should believe in the majority theory and trust the theory of destiny...   May the lord give us strength,  Gargi - www.askyourastroquery.com --- On Tue, 26/1/10, hiren desai <hrn_ds wrote: hiren desai <hrn_ds [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE vedic astrology Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:59 PM  TO ALL GURUS And renowned astros,  CAN ANY ONE JUSTIFY THE STATEMENT :  A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE.    REGARDS, HIREN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Who can define the definition of a king....?? This world is multi-dimensional; far away from the limits of human understanding.... Whom you consider....is the king....may not be in reality ... !! And there may be many....whome you dont know !! ________________________________ gargi das <bapu_o0o0 vedic astrology Sun, January 31, 2010 8:34:43 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE Dear Hiren ji, Kings are not both born and made but it is all destined . Sometimes when born to a King, the prince will enjoy the life of a King ultimately (which happened most of the time). When a King is de-throned a new King relished the throne. But all such events are destined. So you ultimately end up doing what is destined. Astrologers can sometimes predict certain events with 70 percent accuracy and in other cases the accuracy could be 80 or 60 percent ..but this is the limitation of Astrologers (as humans) but when we see more than 50 % accuracy in any case we should believe in the majority theory and trust the theory of destiny... May the lord give us strength, Gargi - www.askyourastroque ry.com --- On Tue, 26/1/10, hiren desai <hrn_ds > wrote: hiren desai <hrn_ds > [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE vedic astrology Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:59 PM TO ALL GURUS And renowned astros, CAN ANY ONE JUSTIFY THE STATEMENT : A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE. REGARDS, HIREN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I do not agree. The opportunity that comes is the only " destiny " part. (Sanchit karma effect). HOwever, the decision that you take on that opportunity results in your prarabdh karma. One is free to act on an opportunity. But if you think this way, you alone shall be responsible for your decision. this is a tough call. so easy way is to blame it on destiny. Astrology is perhaps the only subject that makes you more " karma pradhan " as it is a decision making tool. But unfortunately, the practitioners are making it " bhagya pradhan " which was never an intention of our great sages, anish " chetan " On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:04 PM, gargi das <bapu_o0o0 wrote: > > > Dear Hiren ji, > > Kings are not both born and made but it is all destined . > > Sometimes when born to a King, the prince will enjoy the life of a King > ultimately (which happened most of the time). > > When a King is de-throned a new King relished the throne. > > But all such events are destined. So you ultimately end up doing what is > destined. Astrologers can sometimes predict certain events with 70 percent > accuracy and in other cases the accuracy could be 80 or 60 percent ..but > this is the limitation of Astrologers (as humans) but when we see more than > 50 % accuracy in any case we should believe in the majority theory and trust > the theory of destiny... > > > May the lord give us strength, > > Gargi - www.askyourastroquery.com > --- On Tue, 26/1/10, hiren desai <hrn_ds <hrn_ds%40>> > wrote: > > hiren desai <hrn_ds <hrn_ds%40>> > [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:59 PM > > > > > TO ALL GURUS And renowned astros, > > CAN ANY ONE JUSTIFY THE STATEMENT : > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE. > > > > REGARDS, > HIREN > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 hi all, thnks for the readings .here is my perception about a king 1) a king is the one who does his duties in this world and accomplish it. 2) a king is the one who earns wealth ,authority ,power on his own after going under going all sufferings. 3) a king is the one who knows the right use of power ,wealth and knows how to use it and when to use it 4) a king should not be made because he is from a royal family 5) a king can be a leader or master of his own fields but should be ready to share info or guide others 6) as said by gurus planets determine enviornment(Bhagya)for one to become a king that 's why the king is never born but are destined to be made after going all kinds of sufferings. thnks & regards, hiren vedic astrology , Rohit Singh <rohitsingh_81 wrote: > > Who can define the definition of a king....?? > > This world is multi-dimensional; far away from the limits of human understanding.... > > Whom you consider....is the king....may not be in reality ... !! > > And there may be many....whome you dont know !! > > > > > > ________________________________ > gargi das <bapu_o0o0 > vedic astrology > Sun, January 31, 2010 8:34:43 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > Dear Hiren ji, > > Kings are not both born and made but it is all destined . > > Sometimes when born to a King, the prince will enjoy the life of a King ultimately (which happened most of the time). > > When a King is de-throned a new King relished the throne. > > But all such events are destined. So you ultimately end up doing what is destined. Astrologers can sometimes predict certain events with 70 percent accuracy and in other cases the accuracy could be 80 or 60 percent ..but this is the limitation of Astrologers (as humans) but when we see more than 50 % accuracy in any case we should believe in the majority theory and trust the theory of destiny... > > > May the lord give us strength, > > Gargi - www.askyourastroque ry.com > --- On Tue, 26/1/10, hiren desai <hrn_ds > wrote: > > hiren desai <hrn_ds > > [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > vedic astrology > Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:59 PM > > > > TO ALL GURUS And renowned astros, > > CAN ANY ONE JUSTIFY THE STATEMENT : > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE. > > > > REGARDS, > HIREN > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 .... and then there arrived on this earth amongst us great unwashed: ELVIS! The King!! vedic astrology , " hrn_ds " <hrn_ds wrote: > > hi all, > > thnks for the readings .here is my perception about a king > > 1) a king is the one who does his duties in this world and accomplish it. > 2) a king is the one who earns wealth ,authority ,power on his own after going under going all sufferings. > 3) a king is the one who knows the right use of power ,wealth and knows how to use it and when to use it > 4) a king should not be made because he is from a royal family > 5) a king can be a leader or master of his own fields but should be ready to share info or guide others > 6) as said by gurus planets determine enviornment(Bhagya)for one to become a king > > that 's why the king is never born but are destined to be made after going all kinds of sufferings. > thnks & regards, > hiren > > vedic astrology , Rohit Singh <rohitsingh_81@> wrote: > > > > Who can define the definition of a king....?? > > > > This world is multi-dimensional; far away from the limits of human understanding.... > > > > Whom you consider....is the king....may not be in reality ... !! > > > > And there may be many....whome you dont know !! > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > gargi das <bapu_o0o0@> > > vedic astrology > > Sun, January 31, 2010 8:34:43 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > > > > > Dear Hiren ji, > > > > Kings are not both born and made but it is all destined . > > > > Sometimes when born to a King, the prince will enjoy the life of a King ultimately (which happened most of the time). > > > > When a King is de-throned a new King relished the throne. > > > > But all such events are destined. So you ultimately end up doing what is destined. Astrologers can sometimes predict certain events with 70 percent accuracy and in other cases the accuracy could be 80 or 60 percent ..but this is the limitation of Astrologers (as humans) but when we see more than 50 % accuracy in any case we should believe in the majority theory and trust the theory of destiny... > > > > > > May the lord give us strength, > > > > Gargi - www.askyourastroque ry.com > > --- On Tue, 26/1/10, hiren desai <hrn_ds > wrote: > > > > hiren desai <hrn_ds > > > [vedic astrology] A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:59 PM > > > > > > > > TO ALL GURUS And renowned astros, > > > > CAN ANY ONE JUSTIFY THE STATEMENT : > > > > A KING IS NEVER BORN A KING IS MADE. > > > > > > > > REGARDS, > > HIREN > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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