Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

[Guest guest]

Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative bottom-line? No!

 

Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is high

it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you may

come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not pick

on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who showed up

for the PARTY!!

 

PEACE!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " kumar8149 " <kumar8149 wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th house,

is not desirable. As high points

>

> means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign stay.

>

> Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points in

12th house and is staying in

>

> foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict that

there will be losses??

>

> Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed in

my own chart and I am trying to

>

> understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

>

> Also, let me know how my health would be.

>

> My birth details:

>

> DOB: 8th December 1981

> Time: 3 AM

> Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

>

> Thanks

>

> Kumar

>

[Guest guest]

Dear friend,

Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed to be

considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to devlop by

owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy going loves

all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also influence course of

life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

 

 

 

Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

 

 

Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is high

it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

 

 

I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you may

come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

 

 

For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

 

 

My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

 

 

Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not pick

on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who showed up

for the PARTY!!

 

 

 

PEACE!

 

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@. ..> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi

 

>

 

> I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th house,

is not desirable. As high points

 

>

 

> means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign stay.

 

>

 

> Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points in

12th house and is staying in

 

>

 

> foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict that

there will be losses??

 

>

 

> Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed in

my own chart and I am trying to

 

>

 

> understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

 

>

 

> Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

>

 

> My birth details:

 

>

 

> DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> Time: 3 AM

 

> Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

>

 

> Thanks

 

>

 

> Kumar

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

//One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

 

What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do not) to

those points.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

 

 

Dear friend,

Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed to be

considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to devlop by

owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy going loves

all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also influence course of

life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

 

 

Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative bottom-line? No!

 

Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is high

it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you may

come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not pick

on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who showed up

for the PARTY!!

 

PEACE!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@. ..> wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi

 

>

 

> I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th house,

is not desirable. As high points

 

>

 

> means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign stay.

 

>

 

> Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points in

12th house and is staying in

 

>

 

> foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict that

there will be losses??

 

>

 

> Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed in

my own chart and I am trying to

 

>

 

> understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

 

>

 

> Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

>

 

> My birth details:

 

>

 

> DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> Time: 3 AM

 

> Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

>

 

> Thanks

 

>

 

> Kumar

 

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to learn

by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

RR_,

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

>  

> What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

>

> The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

>

> In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do not) to

those points.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

>

> Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

>

>  

> Dear friend,

> Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed to

be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to devlop

by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy going

loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also influence

course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

>

> Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

>

>  

>

> Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative bottom-line?

No!

>

> Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

>

> Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is high

it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

>

> I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you

may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

>

> For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

>

> My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

>

> Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not pick

on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who showed up

for the PARTY!!

>

> PEACE!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Hi

>

> >

>

> > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

>

> >

>

> > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign stay.

>

> >

>

> > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points

in 12th house and is staying in

>

> >

>

> > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

>

> >

>

> > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed in

my own chart and I am trying to

>

> >

>

> > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

>

> >

>

> > Also, let me know how my health would be.

>

> >

>

> > My birth details:

>

> >

>

> > DOB: 8th December 1981

>

> > Time: 3 AM

>

> > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

>

> >

>

> > Thanks

>

> >

>

> > Kumar

>

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

*klim krishna klim*

Dear Kumar

 

Generally high points in dusthana are not good (ref. Praśna marga).

Similarly many planets in dusthana makes life bit unstable...but this is

very general and as was advised its important to know which planets

contribute to bindus. Astkavarga similarly to argala shows distribution

of support/energy. Surely high expenses are one of the factor of

prediction and people with those charts will feel triggered by various

occurences in the form of financial inspiration etc. For being accurate

whilst prediciting losses its recommended to analyse 12th from Arudha

pada (BPHS). To arrive at conclusion if foreign stay will be auspicious

or not they are other factors to check. like 12th from Lagnesh (jataka

parijata) etc. I have given few pointers in my youtube tutorials.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Jyotish Guru of SJC

http://rohinaa.com/

/rgendarz/

 

Vattem Krishnan pisze:

>

>

> Presence of MA is eternal.Only we r not sensitive.It was not ended.we

> make our selves by our own imagination as abandoned.Mankind need to be

> possessive.Not

> MA.Navaratra are the only days when Maa is observed in different rupas

> and grants darshan to one and all alike.Perhaps at that time she get

> coloured.otherwise MA always has same affinity to one and all.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

> B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets

> are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslilly2005%40>> wrote:

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslilly2005%40>>

> Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

> house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> <%40>

> Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:42 PM

>

>

>

> I have noticed that It's actually children who go to much distance in

> foreign or become foreigner that MA is more closer to for some strange

> reason!! Maybe is has to do with " Absence Makes The Heart Grown Fonder " .

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma

> particularly biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move

> WEST. But one has got to do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of

> the Divine AMMA! :-)

>

> >

>

> > RR_,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > , " Lilly "

> <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to

> embrace her, kindly!!

>

> > > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT

> to them!! But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time

> to time when they are busy/preoccupied with other things.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Lilly

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I

> presume? I notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as

> " AMMA " ;-)

>

> > > >

>

> > > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Rohiniranjan

>

> > > >

>

> > > > , " Lilly "

> <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100

> years or so) who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the

> opening of the 3RD EYE it does clear some of our doubts!!

>

> > > > > I will just leave it at that!

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Lilly

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or

> MMY or Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST

> under their own Volitional STEAM? :-)

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time

> being and begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on

> the journey of thousand steps!

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > RR_,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

> <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70%

> off..Just waitin' to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there

> is a new buyer in town..The buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones

> with a keen eye recognize him!) as a foreigner and he is hear to take

> those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says he is here to make an

> offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to buy the

> entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the

> BULL'S market to a shame!

>

> > > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden

> cost involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul,

> and in return you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal

> he's making!! So who is ready to gamble it all?

>

> > > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it

> also, if we have the courage!!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Lilly

>

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges.

> They are supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice,

> Shenoy_jee :-)

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > RR_,

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh

> Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up

> for the PARTY//

>

> > > > > > > > > Â

>

> > > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of

> Ashtavarga.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji writes in riddles (a

> student of astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing

> (and which do not)Â to those points.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

>

> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga

> points for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Â

>

> > > > > > > > > Dear friend,

>

> > > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was

> well explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once

> attached to foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away

> from near and dear.It can also be that you may go awy in the same

> country due to various reason but not in a position to involve

> yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

>

> > > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration

> all planets involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus

> might be more to feel as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha

> bhava under various circumstances

>

> > > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their

> strength too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a

> master emphasises need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as

> venus a creative planet .and easy going loves all good and nice things

> and comforts.These issues may also influence course of life if more

> bindus are noticed in 12H ..

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all

> counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen

> Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@

> hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> > > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga

> points for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Â

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other

> cumulative bottom-line? No!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered

> in a house, the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have

> high number of positive points!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a

> certain cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a

> term ;-)

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press

> and iron it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are

> looking for...!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE

> do not take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best

> faculties and work at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by

> OSMOSIS!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the

> wrong way!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

> Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to

> look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > PEACE!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

> <kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Hi

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka

> Varga points for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also

> signifies foreign stay.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has

> high ashtaka varga points in 12th house and is staying in

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be

> happy or do we predict that there will be losses??

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house,

> is something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I

> am already living in foreign land.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > My birth details:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Kumar

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

" Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be taken

by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer has

come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a foreigner

and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says he is here

to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to buy the

entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S market

to a shame!

Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have the

courage!!

 

Lilly

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

> >  

> > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> >

> > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

> >

> > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> >

> > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

> >

> >  

> > Dear friend,

> > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed

to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to

devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> >

> > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

> >

> > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> >

> >  

> >

> > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative bottom-line?

No!

> >

> > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

> >

> > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is

high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> >

> > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you

may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> >

> > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> >

> > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> >

> > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not

pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

> >

> > PEACE!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Hi

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

> >

> > >

> >

> > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points

in 12th house and is staying in

> >

> > >

> >

> > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed

in my own chart and I am trying to

> >

> > >

> >

> > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > My birth details:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> >

> > > Time: 3 AM

> >

> > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Thanks

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Kumar

> >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

cant but cite the legendaries as v only look deep into histories.Synonym with

past stories is Astrological histories.

Rightly 12th house strong for Pandavas.Might be along with that they had

48bindus in 4th another moksha house.Those who care for the Mother certainly

made good in all apsects.v r left behind making for partying and

juices.Illustrous five ,some thing they left behind.why not mock

them.Exception,ever willing Draupadi of the itihasa.,how ever obedient?Know her

12tH too.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 8:54 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be

taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer

has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

 

Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

 

I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have the

courage!!

 

 

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ >

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear All,

 

> >

 

> > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

 

> >  

 

> > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

> >

 

> > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

> >

 

> > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

 

> >

 

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

 

> >

 

> > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

 

> > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> > Dear friend,

 

> > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

 

> > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

 

> > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed

to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to

devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

> >

 

> > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

> >

 

> > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

> > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

 

> >

 

> > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> >

 

> > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative bottom-line?

No!

 

> >

 

> > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

> >

 

> > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is

high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

> >

 

> > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you

may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

> >

 

> > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

> >

 

> > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

> >

 

> > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not

pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

 

> >

 

> > PEACE!

 

> >

 

> > Rohiniranjan

 

> >

 

> > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ...>

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Hi

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points

in 12th house and is staying in

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed

in my own chart and I am trying to

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > My birth details:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> >

 

> > > Time: 3 AM

 

> >

 

> > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Thanks

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Kumar

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> >

[Guest guest]

Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh were

all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

 

I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at the

beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

 

RR_,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be

taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer

has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

> I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have the

courage!!

>

> Lilly

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

> > >  

> > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > >

> > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > >

> > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > >

> > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > >

> > >  

> > > Dear friend,

> > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed

to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to

devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > >

> > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

> > >

> > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > >

> > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

> > >

> > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is

high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > >

> > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well,

you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > >

> > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > >

> > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > >

> > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not

pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

> > >

> > > PEACE!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ..>

wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Hi

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga

points in 12th house and is staying in

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > My birth details:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > >

> > > > Time: 3 AM

> > >

> > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Thanks

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Kumar

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Draupadi has already confessed -- in PUBLIC, Dada ...:-)

While some of us were focussed on Ramayana, the more REMOTE EPIC!

Temporally-speaking...!

 

OSHO said -- start with the most recent memory as you go back through the

experiences of the day and UNWIND before you fall asleep! Moving backwards and

in reverse gear has a salutary effect! It unwinds the wound-up spring! The one

we have all been witnessing in amusement and with a hint of sadness too :-(

 

With SAINTS departed --MORE drama can to be expected, now that Hollywood Stars

have joined this CARNIVAL of LIGHTS, here and elsewhere!! ;-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

RR_,

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

> cant but cite the legendaries as v only look deep into histories.Synonym with

past stories is Astrological histories.

> Rightly 12th house strong for Pandavas.Might be along with that they had

48bindus in 4th another moksha house.Those who care for the Mother certainly

made good in all apsects.v r left behind making for partying and

juices.Illustrous five ,some thing they left behind.why not mock

them.Exception,ever willing Draupadi of the itihasa.,how ever obedient?Know her

12tH too.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005

> Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

>

> Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 8:54 PM

>

 

>

>

>

" Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

>

> Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

>

> I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have the

courage!!

>

>

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> >

>

> > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

>

> >

>

> > RR_,

>

> >

>

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear All,

>

> > >

>

> > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

>

> > >  

>

> > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

>

> > >

>

> > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

>

> > >

>

> > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

>

> > >

>

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

>

> > >

>

> > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

>

> > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > >

>

> > >  

>

> > > Dear friend,

>

> > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

>

> > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

>

> > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed

to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to

devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

>

> > >

>

> > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> > >

>

> > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > >

>

> > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

>

> > >

>

> > >  

>

> > >

>

> > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

>

> > >

>

> > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

>

> > >

>

> > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is

high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

>

> > >

>

> > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well,

you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

>

> > >

>

> > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

>

> > >

>

> > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

>

> > >

>

> > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not

pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

>

> > >

>

> > > PEACE!

>

> > >

>

> > > Rohiniranjan

>

> > >

>

> > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ...>

wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > Hi

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga

points in 12th house and is staying in

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > My birth details:

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

>

> > >

>

> > > > Time: 3 AM

>

> > >

>

> > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > Thanks

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > > > Kumar

>

> > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who is to

say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it does

clear some of our doubts!!

I will just leave it at that!

 

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh

were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

>

> I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at the

beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

>

> RR_,

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be

taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer

has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

> > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have

the courage!!

> >

> > Lilly

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

> > > >  

> > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > >

> > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > >

> > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > >

> > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > > Dear friend,

> > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too

needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need

to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > >

> > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > >

> > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

> > > >

> > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster

is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > >

> > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well,

you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > >

> > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in

a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > >

> > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > >

> > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may

not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > >

> > > > PEACE!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ..>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga

points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living

in foreign land.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > My birth details:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > >

> > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > >

> > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Kumar

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

 

True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who is

to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it does

clear some of our doubts!!

> I will just leave it at that!

>

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh

were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

> >

> > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at

the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be

taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer

has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!!

The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will

get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to

gamble it all?

> > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have

the courage!!

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed

to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

> > > > >  

> > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > >

> > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology

is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > >

> > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

> > > > >

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too

needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need

to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >  

> > > > >

> > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > >

> > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

> > > > >

> > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster

is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > >

> > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it

in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > >

> > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > > >

> > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may

not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > >

> > > > > PEACE!

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ..>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for

12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga

points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > >

> > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Kumar

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!! But

it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

 

 

Lilly

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

>

> True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

> > I will just leave it at that!

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh

were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

> > >

> > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at

the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!!

The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will

get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to

gamble it all?

> > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed

to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too

needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need

to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it

in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for

12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

One can't always rely on one's TEACHER/GURU/FRIENDS/FAMILY/ etc. because they

can actually become a wall/block and stop us from seeing the truth, and

progressing in life!! It's only when we realize that they have become road

blocks for us we start knocking the wall down, one brick at a time..As the wall

starts crumbling down in front our eyes we see the LIGHT and the truth reveals

itself! Some like to call it the opening of the 3rd eye!

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

>

> True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

> > I will just leave it at that!

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh

were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

> > >

> > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at

the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!!

The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will

get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to

gamble it all?

> > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed

to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too

needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need

to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it

in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for

12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

 

RR_,

 

 

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

> MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!!

But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

>

>

> Lilly

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> >

> > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > I will just leave it at that!

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin

at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand

steps!

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which

do not) to those points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take

it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at

it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something

I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I have noticed that It's actually children who go to much distance in foreign or

become foreigner that MA is more closer to for some strange reason!! Maybe is

has to do with " Absence Makes The Heart Grown Fonder " .

 

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

>

> RR_,

>

>

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

> > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!!

But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I

notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> > >

> > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so)

who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE

it does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > > I will just leave it at that!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and

begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of

thousand steps!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin'

to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if

we have the courage!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and

which do not) to those points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well

explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to

foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It

can also be that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but

not in a position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron

it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not

take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work

at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong

way!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at

each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

<kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do

we predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is

something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dada,I can not but adore  the way you reflect and convey ideas of the

spirit of great people. Good v rightly recollect and remember their spirit for

the benefit of members. it is not always ardha that matters the follower of

Dharma.

 

Yet the beginning is not dwaita or advaita.it is just a

faith ,Dharma that people have in themselves and the society in which they

exist. All that in unmolested oranges only, if not the ones drooping from

branches

of the trees..Nature blesses them and keeps them away from   from foreign

retd  folk..

 

Illustrous people who have carried beacon of Dharma have

never cared physical aspects and looked back  to measure steps. Probably their

wish was to

carry the torch and  project intrinsic

valuesthat  remained  dormant  and in a shell in society.They never counted

for their labor nor sought the fruits of their contributions

 

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 9:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh

were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

 

 

 

I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at the

beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

 

 

 

RR_,

 

 

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....>

wrote:

 

>

 

> " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be

taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer

has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND... He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

 

> Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

 

> I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have the

courage!!

 

>

 

> Lilly

 

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

> >

 

> > RR_,

 

> >

 

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear All,

 

> > >

 

> > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

 

> > >  

 

> > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

> > >

 

> > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

> > >

 

> > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

 

> > >

 

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

 

> > >

 

> > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

 

> > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > >

 

> > >  

 

> > > Dear friend,

 

> > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

 

> > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

 

> > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed

to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to

devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

> > >

 

> > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

> > >

 

> > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

> > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > >

 

> > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

> > >

 

> > >  

 

> > >

 

> > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

 

> > >

 

> > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

> > >

 

> > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is

high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

> > >

 

> > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well,

you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

> > >

 

> > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

> > >

 

> > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

> > >

 

> > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not

pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

 

> > >

 

> > > PEACE!

 

> > >

 

> > > Rohiniranjan

 

> > >

 

> > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ..>

wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > Hi

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga

points in 12th house and is staying in

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > My birth details:

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> > >

 

> > > > Time: 3 AM

 

> > >

 

> > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > Thanks

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > > > Kumar

 

> > >

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

[Guest guest]

Looks  cross word

puzzles with no clues and sudoko for no fun makes one to desert the enlightened

references of Planets.Astrology in snakes and ladders

make the issues  complex jyotish into

complicated asrology

 

 

 

Buyers enthu makes them bulls…No pains for getting what any

one seeks Scared of the forces and mechanics,it is in any case for  not way

laid people in jyotish arena

 

Clearance……..whole sale….means to avoid congestion and feel

ambient to receive some thing new and some thing better to help ourselves.

Economics

apart that sets  your own house clean and

tidy. Inventions of mankind make a bonhomie and lead to entrepreneurship. That

speaks of things ahead not of what was lost in bargain. Preparedness is no

doubt, a requisite for anything to acquire a new skill or knowledge .Ambition

the force that makes the mind to volunteer for new adaptations. Truly you learn

from legends and legendaries to gain that element of push and confidence to

deal the world around with the back up given by the wizards that have

multifaceted skills willing to part their wealth of knowledge.Hats off to JR

that encourages one and all in several ways. 

 

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 8:54 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to be

taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The buyer

has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

 

Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!! The

asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will get

everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to gamble

it all?

 

I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we have the

courage!!

 

 

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed to

learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ >

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear All,

 

> >

 

> > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

 

> >  

 

> > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

> >

 

> > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of astrology is

supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

> >

 

> > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

 

> >

 

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

 

> >

 

> > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

 

> > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> > Dear friend,

 

> > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained with

reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay was to

leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be that

you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a position

to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

 

> > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets involved

together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel as

stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

 

> > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too needed

to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need to

devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

> >

 

> > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

> >

 

> > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

> > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house::

good for Foreign Stay??

 

> >

 

> > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> >

 

> > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative bottom-line?

No!

 

> >

 

> > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

> >

 

> > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain cluster is

high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

> >

 

> > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it well, you

may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

> >

 

> > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it in a

concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

> >

 

> > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

> >

 

> > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga may not

pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those who

showed up for the PARTY!!

 

> >

 

> > PEACE!

 

> >

 

> > Rohiniranjan

 

> >

 

> > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@ ...>

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Hi

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for 12th

house, is not desirable. As high points

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies foreign

stay.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka varga points

in 12th house and is staying in

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we predict

that there will be losses??

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I noticed

in my own chart and I am trying to

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already living in

foreign land.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > My birth details:

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> >

 

> > > Time: 3 AM

 

> >

 

> > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Thanks

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> > > Kumar

 

> >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> >

[Guest guest]

Realisation is long drawn exercise.Is it not so?.yeah.v all go by phases as MA,I

mean representative moon does?

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:30 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

 

 

 

RR_,

 

 

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ....>

wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

 

> MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!!

But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

 

>

 

>

 

> Lilly

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

> >

 

> > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

 

> >

 

> > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

 

> >

 

> > Rohiniranjan

 

> >

 

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

 

> > > I will just leave it at that!

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Lilly

 

> > >

 

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin

at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand

steps!

 

> > > >

 

> > > > RR_,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

 

> > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

 

> > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Lilly

 

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > RR_,

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Dear All,

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

 

> > > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which

do not) to those points.

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

 

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > > Dear friend,

 

> > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

 

> > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

 

> > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

> > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take

it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at

it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > PEACE!

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Hi

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something

I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > My birth details:

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Thanks

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Kumar

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Presence of MA is eternal.Only we r not sensitive.It was not ended.we make our

selves by our own imagination as abandoned.Mankind need to be possessive.Not

MA.Navaratra are the only days when Maa is observed in different rupas and

grants darshan to one and all alike.Perhaps at that time she get

coloured.otherwise MA always has same affinity to one and all.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have noticed that It's actually children who go to much distance in

foreign or become foreigner that MA is more closer to for some strange reason!!

Maybe is has to do with " Absence Makes The Heart Grown Fonder " .

 

 

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

 

> > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!!

But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Lilly

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I

notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

 

> > >

 

> > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

 

> > >

 

> > > Rohiniranjan

 

> > >

 

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so)

who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE

it does clear some of our doubts!!

 

> > > > I will just leave it at that!

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Lilly

 

> > > >

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and

begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of

thousand steps!

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@

> wrote:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin'

to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

 

> > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

 

> > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if

we have the courage!!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Lilly

 

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > RR_,

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Dear All,

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

 

> > > > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and

which do not) to those points.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

 

> > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > > > Dear friend,

 

> > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well

explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to

foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It

can also be that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but

not in a position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

 

> > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

 

> > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

> > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron

it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not

take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work

at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong

way!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at

each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > PEACE!

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

<kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Hi

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do

we predict that there will be losses??

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is

something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > My birth details:

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > > Kumar

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

*klim krishna klim*

Dear Kumar

 

Generally high points in dusthana are not good (ref. Praśna marga).

Similarly many planets in dusthana makes life bit unstable...but this is

very general and as was advised its important to know which planets

contribute to bindus. Astkavarga similarly to argala shows distribution

of support/energy. Surely high expenses are one of the factor of

prediction and people with those charts will feel triggered by various

occurences in the form of financial inspiration etc. For being accurate

whilst prediciting losses its recommended to analyse 12th from Arudha

pada (BPHS). To arrive at conclusion if foreign stay will be auspicious

or not they are other factors to check. like 12th from Lagnesh (jataka

parijata) etc. I have given few pointers in my youtube tutorials.

 

 

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Jyotish Guru of SJC

http://rohinaa.com/

/rgendarz/

 

Vattem Krishnan pisze:

>

>

> Presence of MA is eternal.Only we r not sensitive.It was not ended.we

> make our selves by our own imagination as abandoned.Mankind need to be

> possessive.Not

> MA.Navaratra are the only days when Maa is observed in different rupas

> and grants darshan to one and all alike.Perhaps at that time she get

> coloured.otherwise MA always has same affinity to one and all.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

> B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets

> are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

>

> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslilly2005%40>> wrote:

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@

> <tigresslilly2005%40>>

> Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

> house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> <%40>

> Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:42 PM

>

>

>

> I have noticed that It's actually children who go to much distance in

> foreign or become foreigner that MA is more closer to for some strange

> reason!! Maybe is has to do with " Absence Makes The Heart Grown Fonder " .

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma

> particularly biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move

> WEST. But one has got to do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of

> the Divine AMMA! :-)

>

> >

>

> > RR_,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > , " Lilly "

> <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to

> embrace her, kindly!!

>

> > > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT

> to them!! But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time

> to time when they are busy/preoccupied with other things.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Lilly

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I

> presume? I notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as

> " AMMA " ;-)

>

> > > >

>

> > > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Rohiniranjan

>

> > > >

>

> > > > , " Lilly "

> <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100

> years or so) who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the

> opening of the 3RD EYE it does clear some of our doubts!!

>

> > > > > I will just leave it at that!

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Lilly

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or

> MMY or Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST

> under their own Volitional STEAM? :-)

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time

> being and begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on

> the journey of thousand steps!

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > RR_,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > , " Lilly "

> <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70%

> off..Just waitin' to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there

> is a new buyer in town..The buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones

> with a keen eye recognize him!) as a foreigner and he is hear to take

> those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says he is here to make an

> offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to buy the

> entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the

> BULL'S market to a shame!

>

> > > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden

> cost involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul,

> and in return you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal

> he's making!! So who is ready to gamble it all?

>

> > > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it

> also, if we have the courage!!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Lilly

>

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges.

> They are supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice,

> Shenoy_jee :-)

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > RR_,

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh

> Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up

> for the PARTY//

>

> > > > > > > > > Â

>

> > > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of

> Ashtavarga.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji writes in riddles (a

> student of astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing

> (and which do not)Â to those points.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

>

> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga

> points for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Â

>

> > > > > > > > > Dear friend,

>

> > > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was

> well explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once

> attached to foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away

> from near and dear.It can also be that you may go awy in the same

> country due to various reason but not in a position to involve

> yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

>

> > > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration

> all planets involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus

> might be more to feel as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha

> bhava under various circumstances

>

> > > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their

> strength too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a

> master emphasises need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as

> venus a creative planet .and easy going loves all good and nice things

> and comforts.These issues may also influence course of life if more

> bindus are noticed in 12H ..

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all

> counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen

> Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@

> hotmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> > > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga

> points for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Â

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other

> cumulative bottom-line? No!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered

> in a house, the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have

> high number of positive points!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a

> certain cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a

> term ;-)

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press

> and iron it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are

> looking for...!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE

> do not take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best

> faculties and work at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by

> OSMOSIS!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the

> wrong way!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

> Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to

> look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > PEACE!

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

> <kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Hi

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka

> Varga points for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also

> signifies foreign stay.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has

> high ashtaka varga points in 12th house and is staying in

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be

> happy or do we predict that there will be losses??

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house,

> is something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I

> am already living in foreign land.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > My birth details:

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > > Kumar

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Only Germans have succeeded.Their eyes are a step above,extinct 3rd eye of

Man.If Guru too is road block,who else can guide us?

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005

Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

 

Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One can't always rely on one's TEACHER/GURU/ FRIENDS/FAMILY/ etc. because they

can actually become a wall/block and stop us from seeing the truth, and

progressing in life!! It's only when we realize that they have become road

blocks for us we start knocking the wall down, one brick at a time..As the wall

starts crumbling down in front our eyes we see the LIGHT and the truth reveals

itself! Some like to call it the opening of the 3rd eye!

 

 

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

 

>

 

> True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

 

>

 

> Rohiniranjan

 

>

 

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

 

> > I will just leave it at that!

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Lilly

 

> >

 

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ >

wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or Rajneesh

were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own Volitional

STEAM? :-)

 

> > >

 

> > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin at

the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand steps!

 

> > >

 

> > > RR_,

 

> > >

 

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

 

> > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost involved!!

The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return you will

get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is ready to

gamble it all?

 

> > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Lilly

 

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are supposed

to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > RR_,

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Dear All,

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the PARTY//

 

> > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which do

not) to those points.

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

 

> > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >  

 

> > > > > > Dear friend,

 

> > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear..It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

 

> > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

 

> > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength too

needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises  need

to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and easy

going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

> > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >  

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house, the

ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of positive

points!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for....!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take it

in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at it!

AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > PEACE!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Hi

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points for

12th house, is not desirable. As high points

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something I

noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > My birth details:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Thanks

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Kumar

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

No Dada, it's no the BERLIN walls that has to be knocked down...But people whom

we have much faith, dear to us whom we count on, and when they mislead us in

subtle ways that we need to stop, re-think, and re-evaluate where we are headed

in life.. It's very easy to follow the masses and get misguided in life don't

you think?

 

 

Lilly

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Only Germans have succeeded.Their eyes are a step above,extinct 3rd eye of

Man.If Guru too is road block,who else can guide us?

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005

> Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good

for Foreign Stay??

>

> Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 10:29 PM

>

 

>

>

>

>

>

One can't always rely on one's TEACHER/GURU/ FRIENDS/FAMILY/ etc. because they

can actually become a wall/block and stop us from seeing the truth, and

progressing in life!! It's only when we realize that they have become road

blocks for us we start knocking the wall down, one brick at a time..As the wall

starts crumbling down in front our eyes we see the LIGHT and the truth reveals

itself! Some like to call it the opening of the 3rd eye!

>

>

>

> Lilly

>

>

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

>

> >

>

> > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

>

> >

>

> > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

>

> >

>

> > Rohiniranjan

>

> >

>

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

>

> > > I will just leave it at that!

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Lilly

>

> > >

>

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin

at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand

steps!

>

> > > >

>

> > > > RR_,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ >

wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

>

> > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

>

> > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Lilly

>

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > RR_,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Dear All,

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

>

> > > > > > >  

>

> > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which

do not) to those points.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

>

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >  

>

> > > > > > > Dear friend,

>

> > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear..It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

>

> > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

>

> > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

>

> > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >  

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for....!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take

it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at

it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > PEACE!

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Hi

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something

I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > My birth details:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Thanks

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > > Kumar

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Why must MA always be on the spotlight??

 

All this attention focused on MA(moon) seems to have overshadowed the minds of

children who forgot there is a bigger force behind this MA, as she can't even

function without the help of father(SUN)!!! Why must MA always come on the

limelight while father stays in the background? After all, it is father SUN who

is the actual spark of life, the seed through which all children came into

being..

 

All GRAHA'S (including Brihaspati ji) only ILLUMINATE what they took/borrowed

from father SUN..Is that not so? Father SUN gives LIGHT and unconditional love

and sustains all life in this big universe..

I hope I am not sounding too patriarchal to those MA-YA-VI_WADI children who

think MA is all and everything, and have forgotten their dearest father!!

 

Lilly

 

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

>

> RR_,

>

>

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

> > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!!

But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

> >

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I

notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> > >

> > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so)

who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE

it does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > > I will just leave it at that!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and

begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of

thousand steps!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin'

to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if

we have the courage!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and

which do not) to those points.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well

explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to

foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It

can also be that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but

not in a position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron

it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not

take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work

at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong

way!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at

each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

<kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do

we predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is

something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Perhaps because we are as yet unborn Lilly, carried in the womb of the Mother,

as divine possibilities.

 

So, the environmentalists say, that the least we can do is not kick her,

insensitive children that we are.

 

Regards,

Nandini

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> Why must MA always be on the spotlight??

>

> All this attention focused on MA(moon) seems to have overshadowed the minds of

children who forgot there is a bigger force behind this MA, as she can't even

function without the help of father(SUN)!!! Why must MA always come on the

limelight while father stays in the background? After all, it is father SUN who

is the actual spark of life, the seed through which all children came into

being..

>

> All GRAHA'S (including Brihaspati ji) only ILLUMINATE what they took/borrowed

from father SUN..Is that not so? Father SUN gives LIGHT and unconditional love

and sustains all life in this big universe..

> I hope I am not sounding too patriarchal to those MA-YA-VI_WADI children who

think MA is all and everything, and have forgotten their dearest father!!

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace

her, kindly!!

> > > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to

them!! But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when

they are busy/preoccupied with other things.

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I

notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> > > >

> > > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so)

who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE

it does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > > > I will just leave it at that!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and

begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of

thousand steps!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just

waitin' to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in

town..The buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize

him!) as a foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND..

He says he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and

ready to buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and

the BULL'S market to a shame!

> > > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if

we have the courage!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of

Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and

which do not) to those points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points

for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well

explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to

foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It

can also be that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but

not in a position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all

planets involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more

to feel as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various

circumstances

> > > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their

strength too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master

emphasises  need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative

planet .and easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues

may also influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other

cumulative bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a

house, the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron

it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not

take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work

at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong

way!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at

each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

<kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga

points for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also

signifies foreign stay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high

ashtaka varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or

do we predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is

something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am

already living in foreign land.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Lilly,

 

Yes ideally that is the case as you describe, however, without mincing words and

emotions into one big bowl of " soggy " porridge, I must say that I have known of,

during my practice etc. of mothers who left their children for a variety of

reasons with their best interest not necessarily at their heart.

 

Whatever they do, astrologers must never lose sight of the harsh reality known

as the worldly realm -- even though the poet within each of us (shares the same

fourth house with a 'study' represented by the 5th house!) beckons us to turn

away from harshness...

 

a.k.a. New Age!

 

RR_,

 

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

>

> The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace her,

kindly!!

> MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to them!!

But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when they are

busy/preoccupied with other things.

>

>

> Lilly

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> >

> > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > I will just leave it at that!

> > >

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin

at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand

steps!

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The problems is rohini ji  writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which

do not) to those points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasises 

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >  

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take

it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at

it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something

I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >