Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

February 3, 2010

Yes but first the wings have to grow fully and become strong!

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> One can't always rely on one's TEACHER/GURU/FRIENDS/FAMILY/ etc. because they

can actually become a wall/block and stop us from seeing the truth, and

progressing in life!! It's only when we realize that they have become road

blocks for us we start knocking the wall down, one brick at a time..As the wall

starts crumbling down in front our eyes we see the LIGHT and the truth reveals

itself! Some like to call it the opening of the 3rd eye!

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I notice

that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> >

> > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so) who

is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE it

does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > I will just leave it at that!

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > >

> > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and begin

at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of thousand

steps!

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just waitin' to

be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in town..The

buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize him!) as a

foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND.. He says

he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and ready to

buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and the BULL'S

market to a shame!

> > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if we

have the courage!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The problems is rohini jiÂ writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and which

do not)Â to those points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well explained

with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to foreign stay

was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It can also be

that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but not in a

position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all planets

involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more to feel

as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various circumstances

> > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their strength

too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master emphasisesÂ

need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative planet .and

easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues may also

influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂ Â Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for 12th

house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other cumulative

bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a house,

the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron it

well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not take

it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work at

it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong way!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate -- Ashtakavarga

may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at each of those

who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kumar8149 " <kumar8149@

...> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga points

for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also signifies

foreign stay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high ashtaka

varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or do we

predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is something

I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am already

living in foreign land.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

February 3, 2010

Astrologically speaking, it is because the Moon is the closest body in the

heavens to us. I read somewhere that compared to other moons, our moon is

proportionately way bigger than other satellites. Hence it makes sense to give

it importance in astrological considerations. Now someone may try to bring in

the tired argument about moon's gravitational pull on the confluent body of

water that the oceans are but that has problems and I do not wish to bring it up

again and again.

There is perhaps something mystical and esoteric also in who all jyotishis gave

such importance to Moon in our system. My advice is to not try and explain it

all based on mundane physical laws alone because we really do not understand all

about energies and so on, even though intuitively we all feel that is the right

direction but then the berlin wall of ignorance comes up and the 3rd eye

probably BLINKS, if not SHUTS DOWN completely!!

I think that factors such as Drishtis, Ashtakavarga, Shadbala, Vimshopaka,

Ishta-Kashta, Argalas, Rashmis are some of the nuances that hint at what goes

into defining this ILLUSORY or ELUSIVE perhaps --*energy* that we refer to when

talking about astrological indicators and their influences and expressions that

we read in the form of astrology.

I think I will leave it at that because really there is only so much that can be

discussed through these disjointed internet discussions...

Rohiniranjan

, " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote:

>

> Why must MA always be on the spotlight??

>

> All this attention focused on MA(moon) seems to have overshadowed the minds of

children who forgot there is a bigger force behind this MA, as she can't even

function without the help of father(SUN)!!! Why must MA always come on the

limelight while father stays in the background? After all, it is father SUN who

is the actual spark of life, the seed through which all children came into

being..

>

> All GRAHA'S (including Brihaspati ji) only ILLUMINATE what they took/borrowed

from father SUN..Is that not so? Father SUN gives LIGHT and unconditional love

and sustains all life in this big universe..

> I hope I am not sounding too patriarchal to those MA-YA-VI_WADI children who

think MA is all and everything, and have forgotten their dearest father!!

>

> Lilly

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace

her, kindly!!

> > > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to

them!! But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when

they are busy/preoccupied with other things.

> > >

> > > Lilly

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I

notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> > > >

> > > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or so)

who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD EYE

it does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > > > I will just leave it at that!

> > > > >

> > > > > Lilly

> > > > >

> > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and

begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of

thousand steps!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just

waitin' to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in

town..The buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize

him!) as a foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND..

He says he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and

ready to buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and

the BULL'S market to a shame!

> > > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also, if

we have the courage!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of

Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The problems is rohini jiÂ writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and

which do not)Â to those points.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points

for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well

explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to

foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It

can also be that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but

not in a position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all

planets involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more

to feel as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various

circumstances

> > > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their

strength too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master

emphasisesÂ need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative

planet .and easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues

may also influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂ Â Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other

cumulative bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a

house, the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a certain

cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and iron

it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking for...!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not

take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work

at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong

way!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at

each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

<kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga

points for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also

signifies foreign stay.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high

ashtaka varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or

do we predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is

something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am

already living in foreign land.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

February 3, 2010

Haha, Nandini -- you have just added cinnamon to the porridge ;-)

RR_,

, " nandini " <kakan_leo wrote:

>

> Perhaps because we are as yet unborn Lilly, carried in the womb of the Mother,

as divine possibilities.

>

> So, the environmentalists say, that the least we can do is not kick her,

insensitive children that we are.

>

> Regards,

> Nandini

>

> , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> >

> > Why must MA always be on the spotlight??

> >

> > All this attention focused on MA(moon) seems to have overshadowed the minds

of children who forgot there is a bigger force behind this MA, as she can't even

function without the help of father(SUN)!!! Why must MA always come on the

limelight while father stays in the background? After all, it is father SUN who

is the actual spark of life, the seed through which all children came into

being..

> >

> > All GRAHA'S (including Brihaspati ji) only ILLUMINATE what they

took/borrowed from father SUN..Is that not so? Father SUN gives LIGHT and

unconditional love and sustains all life in this big universe..

> > I hope I am not sounding too patriarchal to those MA-YA-VI_WADI children who

think MA is all and everything, and have forgotten their dearest father!!

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes Lilly -- it is sad when children move away from their ma particularly

biological ones -- they are so special -- and must move WEST. But one has got to

do what one must, I suppose! At the behest of the Divine AMMA! :-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The spirit of AMMA is inside all of us sir..If we only learn to embrace

her, kindly!!

> > > > MA never leaves her children as she's got way too much ATTACHMENT to

them!! But it's quite possible children can forget AMMA from time to time when

they are busy/preoccupied with other things.

> > > >

> > > > Lilly

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > You should ask your teacher -- Tigress! You do have one, I presume? I

notice that you have stopped signing off your messages as " AMMA " ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > True realization or just another " phase " betaa...?

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir, with the market full of so many GODS(in the past 100 years or

so) who is to say who is real & sincere..Although, with the opening of the 3RD

EYE it does clear some of our doubts!!

> > > > > > I will just leave it at that!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lilly -- are you implying that Vivekananda or Yogananda or MMY or

Rajneesh were all not SERIOUS or SINCERE and came to the WEST under their own

Volitional STEAM? :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I will leave the RAMAN and RAO out of this for the time being and

begin at the beginning! Step by Step can we all embark on the journey of

thousand steps!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " Lilly "

<tigresslilly2005@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " Goods " been sitting on the CLEARANCE rack at 70% off..Just

waitin' to be taken by the right buyer and finds out there is a new buyer in

town..The buyer has come in a disguise(only the ones with a keen eye recognize

him!) as a foreigner and he is hear to take those interested to a FOREIGN LAND..

He says he is here to make an offer, the a best deal at a WHOLE SALE price, and

ready to buy the entire stock, which will eventually put the SHARE market, and

the BULL'S market to a shame!

> > > > > > > > Such an offer some can't resist, and he swears no hidden cost

involved!! The asking price is - Give your heart, mind, and soul, and in return

you will get everything you ever wanted!! What a deal he's making!! So who is

ready to gamble it all?

> > > > > > > > I know the PANDAV BROTHERS did it! I am sure we can do it also,

if we have the courage!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lilly

> > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I can only offer to others unmolested juicy oranges. They are

supposed to learn by doing how to squeeze the juice, Shenoy_jee :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > //One has got to look at each of those who showed up for the

PARTY//

> > > > > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > > > > What Rohini ji has stated (above) is the essence of

Ashtavarga.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The problems is rohini jiÂ writes in riddles (a student of

astrology is supposed to have a strong mercury).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > In simple terms look at which planets are contributing (and

which do not)Â to those points.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:13:11 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points

for 12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > > > > Dear friend,

> > > > > > > > > > Having more bindus in 12th house is good or bad was well

explained with reference to foreign stay..The significance once attached to

foreign stay was to leave your home country and going away from near and dear.It

can also be that you may go awy in the same country due to various reason but

not in a position to involve yourself in the sukh /dukh aspects of kith and kin.

> > > > > > > > > > 2.In ashtaka varga system we take into consideration all

planets involved together with PAC etc.In the process the bindus might be more

to feel as stronger house.it's strength lies as moksha bhava under various

circumstances

> > > > > > > > > > Both Saturn and Venus being Karaks of 12th house,their

strength too needed to be considered.As all of us know saturn as a master

emphasisesÂ need to devlop by owns efforts and trials.where as venus a creative

planet .and easy going loves all good and nice things and comforts.These issues

may also influence course of life if more bindus are noticed in 12H ..

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂ Â Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@

hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Does having High Ashtaka varga points for

12th house:: good for Foreign Stay??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Sunday, January 31, 2010, 1:06 AM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Just based on the single factor such as SAV or other

cumulative bottom-line? No!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Notice that generally when the planets are clustered in a

house, the ashtakavarga of certain houses therefrom tend to have high number of

positive points!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ashtakavarga is not like a POLL or election where if a

certain cluster is high it immediately promises success! Even if for a term ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I will leave that tiny wrinkle with you! If you press and

iron it well, you may come back with the very answer that you are looking

for...!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > For each astrological indicator, please please PLEASE do not

take it in a concrete manner! But really bring out your best faculties and work

at it! AstroLOGIC cannot be learned passively by OSMOSIS!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > My apologies if I am rattling your cage of comfort the wrong

way!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regardless of whether saints or rogues congregate --

Ashtakavarga may not pick on their QUALITATIVE NATUREs! One has got to look at

each of those who showed up for the PARTY!!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > PEACE!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > , " kumar8149 "

<kumar8149@ ..> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I read in many articles that having high Ashtaka Varga

points for 12th house, is not desirable. As high points

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > means more expenses and losses. But 12th house also

signifies foreign stay.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Then, what should we predict for someone who has high

ashtaka varga points in 12th house and is staying in

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > foreign. Can we predict that foreign stay will be happy or

do we predict that there will be losses??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, high ashtaka varga points for 12th house, is

something I noticed in my own chart and I am trying to

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > understand if this is good sign or a bad sign, as I am

already living in foreign land.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Also, let me know how my health would be.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > My birth details:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > DOB: 8th December 1981

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Time: 3 AM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Place of Birth: Chennai, Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Kumar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

February 4, 2010

The big Moon/( mother/mind) is always closer to us then any other

graha(personality)for most of us Pritavi_niwasi, no doubt about it! The big

Moon(mother)is the biggest force in our lives not just by giving birth to us,

but also in shaping our adult life. Children will always have a natural

pull/attraction more towards mother then any personality(graha).

Lilly

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Astrologically speaking, it is because the Moon is the closest body in the

heavens to us. I read somewhere that compared to other moons, our moon is

proportionately way bigger than other satellites. Hence it makes sense to give

it importance in astrological considerations. Now someone may try to bring in

the tired argument about moon's gravitational pull on the confluent body of

water that the oceans are but that has problems and I do not wish to bring it up

again and again.

>

> There is perhaps something mystical and esoteric also in who all jyotishis

gave such importance to Moon in our system. My advice is to not try and explain

it all based on mundane physical laws alone because we really do not understand

all about energies and so on, even though intuitively we all feel that is the

right direction but then the berlin wall of ignorance comes up and the 3rd eye

probably BLINKS, if not SHUTS DOWN completely!!

>

> I think that factors such as Drishtis, Ashtakavarga, Shadbala, Vimshopaka,

Ishta-Kashta, Argalas, Rashmis are some of the nuances that hint at what goes

into defining this ILLUSORY or ELUSIVE perhaps --*energy* that we refer to when

talking about astrological indicators and their influences and expressions that

we read in the form of astrology.

>

> I think I will leave it at that because really there is only so much that can

be discussed through these disjointed internet discussions...

>

> Rohiniranjan