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With correct vedic appoach, we can predict events before they occur, As

we saw on 25'th Dec 2009's post in Jyotish Group, things have moved in

the said direction, Our discovery is Places and Planets are linked,

countries charts are misleading as no country takes birth on a date,

India was there before 15'th August 1947 also.

 

It was said in following message #25486, 25'th Dec 2009,

-

 

/*Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

either Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

strength.

 

*/

 

Govt has yesterday set up a committee headed by Supreme Court Judge B N

Srikrishna who will give it's report in next 3 years, thus, as we said

any possibility of sub division of Indian map is only in 2013-14, not

before that.

 

http://in.news./48/20100204/814/tnl-centre-sets-up-srikrishna-p\

anel-for.html

<http://in.news./48/20100204/814/tnl-centre-sets-up-srikrishna-\

panel-for.html>

 

Set up of a committee shows there will be a justified decision on this

issue as we saw in the same post, right now Jup is on 10'th degree, by

the time Jup crosses 15'th degree, committee may office etc to begin

it's work, as said -

 

/*

Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees becomes

Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted justified

decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be based

on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take place

after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

remote areas.

 

*/

 

Definitely, committee w'd do brainstorming for taking a right decision.

 

--------

Utkal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi "

<utkal.panigrahi wrote:

>

>

>

> History is evident, Andra and Karnataka region is responsive to

Saturn's

> transit, Emergence and fall of dynasties in Andra - Karnataka region

has

> always been subject to Saturn's transit on Aries, Virgo, Scorpio, and

> Sagittarius.

>

> This study is based on following two pints -

>

> · Jup and mars are the soul and body of India. Mars is the

> significator of Indian subcontinent's geography, it should not receive

> malificance of either Saturn or Rahu.

>

> · Kurma chakra says major part of Andhra region is ruled by

> Uttarphalguni to Chitra nakschatra of Virgo.

>

> The first Hoysala ruler's family record is dated 950 and names

> Arekalla as the chieftain, In 1186-87, Saturn was again in Virgo when

> Vir Ballal set Hoyasals free from the subordination laying the

> foundation of independent Hoyasal dynasty.

>

> In 1309 when Saturn was in Scorpio and Jup was in Capricorn, Malik

> Kafur, with an immense force swept into the Dakhan and captured

> Warangal. The old capital of the Hoysala Ballalas at Dvarasamudra was

> taken in 1310.

>

> Saturn's next transit on Virgo in 1333-1334 led to the foundation of

> Kingdom of Vijayanagara in 1336 while it caused declination of

Hoyasals

> ruling. Biggest defeat happened in 1565 by the Decan Sultantes, Saturn

> was in Virgo, however survived untill 1646.

>

> The origins of the Nizam dynasty can be traced to Chin Qalich Khan who

> was commander of the Mughal army during Aurangzeb's reign. Chin

> Qalich Khan led the attack of the Mughal army at Deccan.

>

> During Aurangzeb's last siege of Golconda in 1687 (Sat was in

> Virgo),Chin Qalich Khan was wounded. He died in Atapur village near

> Himayath Sagar. Chin Qalich Khan's son, Nawab Ghaziuddin Khan,

> married the daughter of Sadullah Khan, Prime Minister of Aurangzeb. A

> son was born, and the Emperor named him Mir Qumaruddin. At the age of

> six, Mir Qumaruddin accompanied his father to the Mughal court.

> Aurangzeb awarded him a mansab, and said to his father, " The star of

> destiny shines on the forehead of your son " .

>

> Mir Qumaruddin displayed considerable skill as a warrior and at the

age

> of nineteen, the Emperor bestowed on him the title " Chin Fateh Khan " .

>

> As said earlier, if Saturn or Rahu afflicts Jup and Mars or their

signs,

> India and Govt both has to face stiff challange, Though, Rahu is

> transiting Sagittarious, but Saturn is not directly involved however

it

> casting it's aspect on scorpio, but will not afflicting either Jup or

> their signs, so, no quick thoughtless reconstruction of the states in

> India.

>

> If we look at current scenario though Jup has been in debility, now

> transits Aquarius.

> Jup in Aquarius always tend to put Indian rulers in ordeal, posing

> challanges to show competence, If government shows it, ruling team

> continues otherwise changes come, at least revamp of cabinet is

likely.

>

> For the curent movement for division of Andhra, transit indicates a

> turning point is likely to emerge, as Jup w'd soon move out to Pisces

in

> May 2010, Simultaneously, Mars w'd also come out of it's debility,

This

> pattern of transit shows current turbulance to pacify, It should get

> distilled by April - May 2010, Earlier, I thought it to cool down in a

> month's time but forgot to notice Saturn is going in standstill

> mode, seems this saturn will keep simmering the current protest for

some

> more time, Anyways, Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees

> becomes Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted

> justified decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be

based

> on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take

place

> after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

> remote areas.

>

>

> Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

either

> Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

> permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

> seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

> strength.

>

>

>

> Jup signifies the integrity of country and it's wellness as well, we

> should rest assured that after MAY 2010, India w'd have a high

> performance govt, either same team and leader will work significantly

> better or somebody new come into picture. Jup and Mars when transits

> Pisces or Aries they try their best to give a high performace govt to

> this country, remain hopeful.

>

>

>

> The day we get a PM with strong and well placed Jup and Mars in chart,

> under his tenure India w'd route towards it's glory, a glory that we

> have read in ancient history.

>

>

>

> --------------------

> Utkal Panigrahi.

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sir,

Iam afraid that in the eman time lot of actions occur in this divergent state

that lived happily almost 50yrs after SRC.

Now from prashan lagna(Cancer) it appears Mars aspect on 4th weak moon and

depositor Venus in 7th with Sun in enemy sign indicates,the committee will look

into economic factors and divert the whole issue.

Mars as lord of 10H(Parliament) and 5H in lagna in debilitation and

retrograde.Saturn,planet of democracy is retrograde.3rd from lagna.In navamsa in

8th in debilitation.

 

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi wrote:

 

utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

Andhra Troubles And Saturn on Virgo

 

Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 10:47 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With correct vedic appoach, we can predict events before they occur, As

 

we saw on 25'th Dec 2009's post in Jyotish Group, things have moved in

 

the said direction, Our discovery is Places and Planets are linked,

 

countries charts are misleading as no country takes birth on a date,

 

India was there before 15'th August 1947 also.

 

 

 

It was said in following message #25486, 25'th Dec 2009,

 

-

 

 

 

/*Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

 

either Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

 

permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

 

seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

 

strength.

 

 

 

*/

 

 

 

Govt has yesterday set up a committee headed by Supreme Court Judge B N

 

Srikrishna who will give it's report in next 3 years, thus, as we said

 

any possibility of sub division of Indian map is only in 2013-14, not

 

before that.

 

 

 

http://in.news. / 48/20100204/ 814/tnl-centre- sets-up-srikrish na-p\

 

anel-for.html

 

<http://in.news. / 48/20100204/ 814/tnl-centre- sets-up-srikrish na-\

 

panel-for.html>

 

 

 

Set up of a committee shows there will be a justified decision on this

 

issue as we saw in the same post, right now Jup is on 10'th degree, by

 

the time Jup crosses 15'th degree, committee may office etc to begin

 

it's work, as said -

 

 

 

/*

 

Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees becomes

 

Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted justified

 

decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be based

 

on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take place

 

after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

 

remote areas.

 

 

 

*/

 

 

 

Definitely, committee w'd do brainstorming for taking a right decision.

 

 

 

--------

 

Utkal.

 

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi "

 

<utkal.panigrahi@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> History is evident, Andra and Karnataka region is responsive to

 

Saturn's

 

> transit, Emergence and fall of dynasties in Andra - Karnataka region

 

has

 

> always been subject to Saturn's transit on Aries, Virgo, Scorpio, and

 

> Sagittarius.

 

>

 

> This study is based on following two pints -

 

>

 

> · Jup and mars are the soul and body of India. Mars is the

 

> significator of Indian subcontinent' s geography, it should not receive

 

> malificance of either Saturn or Rahu.

 

>

 

> · Kurma chakra says major part of Andhra region is ruled by

 

> Uttarphalguni to Chitra nakschatra of Virgo.

 

>

 

> The first Hoysala ruler's family record is dated 950 and names

 

> Arekalla as the chieftain, In 1186-87, Saturn was again in Virgo when

 

> Vir Ballal set Hoyasals free from the subordination laying the

 

> foundation of independent Hoyasal dynasty.

 

>

 

> In 1309 when Saturn was in Scorpio and Jup was in Capricorn, Malik

 

> Kafur, with an immense force swept into the Dakhan and captured

 

> Warangal. The old capital of the Hoysala Ballalas at Dvarasamudra was

 

> taken in 1310.

 

>

 

> Saturn's next transit on Virgo in 1333-1334 led to the foundation of

 

> Kingdom of Vijayanagara in 1336 while it caused declination of

 

Hoyasals

 

> ruling. Biggest defeat happened in 1565 by the Decan Sultantes, Saturn

 

> was in Virgo, however survived untill 1646.

 

>

 

> The origins of the Nizam dynasty can be traced to Chin Qalich Khan who

 

> was commander of the Mughal army during Aurangzeb's reign. Chin

 

> Qalich Khan led the attack of the Mughal army at Deccan.

 

>

 

> During Aurangzeb's last siege of Golconda in 1687 (Sat was in

 

> Virgo),Chin Qalich Khan was wounded. He died in Atapur village near

 

> Himayath Sagar. Chin Qalich Khan's son, Nawab Ghaziuddin Khan,

 

> married the daughter of Sadullah Khan, Prime Minister of Aurangzeb. A

 

> son was born, and the Emperor named him Mir Qumaruddin. At the age of

 

> six, Mir Qumaruddin accompanied his father to the Mughal court.

 

> Aurangzeb awarded him a mansab, and said to his father, " The star of

 

> destiny shines on the forehead of your son " .

 

>

 

> Mir Qumaruddin displayed considerable skill as a warrior and at the

 

age

 

> of nineteen, the Emperor bestowed on him the title " Chin Fateh Khan " .

 

>

 

> As said earlier, if Saturn or Rahu afflicts Jup and Mars or their

 

signs,

 

> India and Govt both has to face stiff challange, Though, Rahu is

 

> transiting Sagittarious, but Saturn is not directly involved however

 

it

 

> casting it's aspect on scorpio, but will not afflicting either Jup or

 

> their signs, so, no quick thoughtless reconstruction of the states in

 

> India.

 

>

 

> If we look at current scenario though Jup has been in debility, now

 

> transits Aquarius.

 

> Jup in Aquarius always tend to put Indian rulers in ordeal, posing

 

> challanges to show competence, If government shows it, ruling team

 

> continues otherwise changes come, at least revamp of cabinet is

 

likely.

 

>

 

> For the curent movement for division of Andhra, transit indicates a

 

> turning point is likely to emerge, as Jup w'd soon move out to Pisces

 

in

 

> May 2010, Simultaneously, Mars w'd also come out of it's debility,

 

This

 

> pattern of transit shows current turbulance to pacify, It should get

 

> distilled by April - May 2010, Earlier, I thought it to cool down in a

 

> month's time but forgot to notice Saturn is going in standstill

 

> mode, seems this saturn will keep simmering the current protest for

 

some

 

> more time, Anyways, Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees

 

> becomes Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted

 

> justified decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be

 

based

 

> on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take

 

place

 

> after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

 

> remote areas.

 

>

 

>

 

> Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

 

either

 

> Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

 

> permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

 

> seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

 

> strength.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Jup signifies the integrity of country and it's wellness as well, we

 

> should rest assured that after MAY 2010, India w'd have a high

 

> performance govt, either same team and leader will work significantly

 

> better or somebody new come into picture. Jup and Mars when transits

 

> Pisces or Aries they try their best to give a high performace govt to

 

> this country, remain hopeful.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> The day we get a PM with strong and well placed Jup and Mars in chart,

 

> under his tenure India w'd route towards it's glory, a glory that we

 

> have read in ancient history.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ------------ --------

 

> Utkal Panigrahi.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

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//countries charts are misleading as no country takes birth on a date,

 

India was there before 15'th August 1947 also.//

 

True but......

 

It is not entirely correct to say the independance day chart cannot be used for

analysis regarding that country / state etc, Though it is true that the country

could have been in existance much before that.

 

The independence day is an important day as far as that entity (consider

native). 

 

We consider the Birth chart of native while we know that the birth chart should

be the unknown adhana chart. 

 

Similarly we consider the Hora when the native walks in for consulation which we

consider as Pricha time. What is the link between that time and his Birth time?

- yet we are able to know a lot about the native without even having a look at

his birth chart. What about people who do not have a birth chart?

 

Independence day chart is only a Hora - a point of time as far as that country

is considered. But since it is country (not an ordinary native) we have to work

out the methods of Mundane Branch of Astrology as well.

 

 A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

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Resp. Friends,

What about poor " AMAR SINGH " and SAMAJWADI Party, JAYAPARDA, JAYA BACHAN etc

?

with greetings,

Sapna

-

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi

wrote:

>

>

>

> With correct vedic appoach, we can predict events before they occur, As

> we saw on 25'th Dec 2009's post in Jyotish Group, things have moved in

> the said direction, Our discovery is Places and Planets are linked,

> countries charts are misleading as no country takes birth on a date,

> India was there before 15'th August 1947 also.

>

> It was said in following message #25486, 25'th Dec 2009,

> -

>

> /*Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

> either Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

> permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

> seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

> strength.

>

> */

>

> Govt has yesterday set up a committee headed by Supreme Court Judge B N

> Srikrishna who will give it's report in next 3 years, thus, as we said

> any possibility of sub division of Indian map is only in 2013-14, not

> before that.

>

> http://in.news./48/20100204/814/tnl-centre-sets-up-srikrishna-p\

> anel-for.html

> <http://in.news./48/20100204/814/tnl-centre-sets-up-srikrishna-\

> panel-for.html>

>

> Set up of a committee shows there will be a justified decision on this

> issue as we saw in the same post, right now Jup is on 10'th degree, by

> the time Jup crosses 15'th degree, committee may office etc to begin

> it's work, as said -

>

> /*

> Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees becomes

> Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted justified

> decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be based

> on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take place

> after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

> remote areas.

>

> */

>

> Definitely, committee w'd do brainstorming for taking a right decision.

>

> --------

> Utkal.

>

>

>

, " utkal.panigrahi "

> <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > History is evident, Andra and Karnataka region is responsive to

> Saturn's

> > transit, Emergence and fall of dynasties in Andra - Karnataka region

> has

> > always been subject to Saturn's transit on Aries, Virgo, Scorpio, and

> > Sagittarius.

> >

> > This study is based on following two pints -

> >

> > · Jup and mars are the soul and body of India. Mars is the

> > significator of Indian subcontinent's geography, it should not receive

> > malificance of either Saturn or Rahu.

> >

> > · Kurma chakra says major part of Andhra region is ruled by

> > Uttarphalguni to Chitra nakschatra of Virgo.

> >

> > The first Hoysala ruler's family record is dated 950 and names

> > Arekalla as the chieftain, In 1186-87, Saturn was again in Virgo when

> > Vir Ballal set Hoyasals free from the subordination laying the

> > foundation of independent Hoyasal dynasty.

> >

> > In 1309 when Saturn was in Scorpio and Jup was in Capricorn, Malik

> > Kafur, with an immense force swept into the Dakhan and captured

> > Warangal. The old capital of the Hoysala Ballalas at Dvarasamudra was

> > taken in 1310.

> >

> > Saturn's next transit on Virgo in 1333-1334 led to the foundation of

> > Kingdom of Vijayanagara in 1336 while it caused declination of

> Hoyasals

> > ruling. Biggest defeat happened in 1565 by the Decan Sultantes, Saturn

> > was in Virgo, however survived untill 1646.

> >

> > The origins of the Nizam dynasty can be traced to Chin Qalich Khan who

> > was commander of the Mughal army during Aurangzeb's reign. Chin

> > Qalich Khan led the attack of the Mughal army at Deccan.

> >

> > During Aurangzeb's last siege of Golconda in 1687 (Sat was in

> > Virgo),Chin Qalich Khan was wounded. He died in Atapur village near

> > Himayath Sagar. Chin Qalich Khan's son, Nawab Ghaziuddin Khan,

> > married the daughter of Sadullah Khan, Prime Minister of Aurangzeb. A

> > son was born, and the Emperor named him Mir Qumaruddin. At the age of

> > six, Mir Qumaruddin accompanied his father to the Mughal court.

> > Aurangzeb awarded him a mansab, and said to his father, " The star of

> > destiny shines on the forehead of your son " .

> >

> > Mir Qumaruddin displayed considerable skill as a warrior and at the

> age

> > of nineteen, the Emperor bestowed on him the title " Chin Fateh Khan " .

> >

> > As said earlier, if Saturn or Rahu afflicts Jup and Mars or their

> signs,

> > India and Govt both has to face stiff challange, Though, Rahu is

> > transiting Sagittarious, but Saturn is not directly involved however

> it

> > casting it's aspect on scorpio, but will not afflicting either Jup or

> > their signs, so, no quick thoughtless reconstruction of the states in

> > India.

> >

> > If we look at current scenario though Jup has been in debility, now

> > transits Aquarius.

> > Jup in Aquarius always tend to put Indian rulers in ordeal, posing

> > challanges to show competence, If government shows it, ruling team

> > continues otherwise changes come, at least revamp of cabinet is

> likely.

> >

> > For the curent movement for division of Andhra, transit indicates a

> > turning point is likely to emerge, as Jup w'd soon move out to Pisces

> in

> > May 2010, Simultaneously, Mars w'd also come out of it's debility,

> This

> > pattern of transit shows current turbulance to pacify, It should get

> > distilled by April - May 2010, Earlier, I thought it to cool down in a

> > month's time but forgot to notice Saturn is going in standstill

> > mode, seems this saturn will keep simmering the current protest for

> some

> > more time, Anyways, Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees

> > becomes Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted

> > justified decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be

> based

> > on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take

> place

> > after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

> > remote areas.

> >

> >

> > Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

> either

> > Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

> > permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

> > seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

> > strength.

> >

> >

> >

> > Jup signifies the integrity of country and it's wellness as well, we

> > should rest assured that after MAY 2010, India w'd have a high

> > performance govt, either same team and leader will work significantly

> > better or somebody new come into picture. Jup and Mars when transits

> > Pisces or Aries they try their best to give a high performace govt to

> > this country, remain hopeful.

> >

> >

> >

> > The day we get a PM with strong and well placed Jup and Mars in chart,

> > under his tenure India w'd route towards it's glory, a glory that we

> > have read in ancient history.

> >

> >

> >

> > --------------------

> > Utkal Panigrahi.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear members,

You have named all those who get special focus on media.They r required for all

and for evrey politicians.Then there is lot of congestion in political system as

big states are now awaiting elections.Some old have to now find some solace and

peace and young in 50s do get room to survive.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Thu, 2/4/10, sapnag1968 <sapnag1968 wrote:

 

sapnag1968 <sapnag1968

Re: Andhra Troubles And Saturn on Virgo

 

Thursday, February 4, 2010, 1:12 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Resp. Friends,

 

What about poor " AMAR SINGH " and SAMAJWADI Party, JAYAPARDA, JAYA BACHAN etc

?

 

with greetings,

 

Sapna

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

 

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

....> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> With correct vedic appoach, we can predict events before they occur, As

 

> we saw on 25'th Dec 2009's post in Jyotish Group, things have moved in

 

> the said direction, Our discovery is Places and Planets are linked,

 

> countries charts are misleading as no country takes birth on a date,

 

> India was there before 15'th August 1947 also.

 

>

 

> It was said in following message #25486, 25'th Dec 2009,

 

> -

 

>

 

> /*Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

 

> either Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

 

> permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

 

> seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

 

> strength.

 

>

 

> */

 

>

 

> Govt has yesterday set up a committee headed by Supreme Court Judge B N

 

> Srikrishna who will give it's report in next 3 years, thus, as we said

 

> any possibility of sub division of Indian map is only in 2013-14, not

 

> before that.

 

>

 

> http://in.news. / 48/20100204/ 814/tnl-centre- sets-up-srikrish na-p\

 

> anel-for.html

 

> <http://in.news. / 48/20100204/ 814/tnl-centre- sets-up-srikrish na-\

 

> panel-for.html>

 

>

 

> Set up of a committee shows there will be a justified decision on this

 

> issue as we saw in the same post, right now Jup is on 10'th degree, by

 

> the time Jup crosses 15'th degree, committee may office etc to begin

 

> it's work, as said -

 

>

 

> /*

 

> Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees becomes

 

> Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted justified

 

> decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be based

 

> on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take place

 

> after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

 

> remote areas.

 

>

 

> */

 

>

 

> Definitely, committee w'd do brainstorming for taking a right decision..

 

>

 

> --------

 

> Utkal.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> , " utkal.panigrahi "

 

> <utkal.panigrahi@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > History is evident, Andra and Karnataka region is responsive to

 

> Saturn's

 

> > transit, Emergence and fall of dynasties in Andra - Karnataka region

 

> has

 

> > always been subject to Saturn's transit on Aries, Virgo, Scorpio, and

 

> > Sagittarius.

 

> >

 

> > This study is based on following two pints -

 

> >

 

> > · Jup and mars are the soul and body of India. Mars is the

 

> > significator of Indian subcontinent' s geography, it should not receive

 

> > malificance of either Saturn or Rahu.

 

> >

 

> > · Kurma chakra says major part of Andhra region is ruled by

 

> > Uttarphalguni to Chitra nakschatra of Virgo.

 

> >

 

> > The first Hoysala ruler's family record is dated 950 and names

 

> > Arekalla as the chieftain, In 1186-87, Saturn was again in Virgo when

 

> > Vir Ballal set Hoyasals free from the subordination laying the

 

> > foundation of independent Hoyasal dynasty.

 

> >

 

> > In 1309 when Saturn was in Scorpio and Jup was in Capricorn, Malik

 

> > Kafur, with an immense force swept into the Dakhan and captured

 

> > Warangal. The old capital of the Hoysala Ballalas at Dvarasamudra was

 

> > taken in 1310.

 

> >

 

> > Saturn's next transit on Virgo in 1333-1334 led to the foundation of

 

> > Kingdom of Vijayanagara in 1336 while it caused declination of

 

> Hoyasals

 

> > ruling. Biggest defeat happened in 1565 by the Decan Sultantes, Saturn

 

> > was in Virgo, however survived untill 1646.

 

> >

 

> > The origins of the Nizam dynasty can be traced to Chin Qalich Khan who

 

> > was commander of the Mughal army during Aurangzeb's reign. Chin

 

> > Qalich Khan led the attack of the Mughal army at Deccan.

 

> >

 

> > During Aurangzeb's last siege of Golconda in 1687 (Sat was in

 

> > Virgo),Chin Qalich Khan was wounded. He died in Atapur village near

 

> > Himayath Sagar. Chin Qalich Khan's son, Nawab Ghaziuddin Khan,

 

> > married the daughter of Sadullah Khan, Prime Minister of Aurangzeb. A

 

> > son was born, and the Emperor named him Mir Qumaruddin. At the age of

 

> > six, Mir Qumaruddin accompanied his father to the Mughal court.

 

> > Aurangzeb awarded him a mansab, and said to his father, " The star of

 

> > destiny shines on the forehead of your son " .

 

> >

 

> > Mir Qumaruddin displayed considerable skill as a warrior and at the

 

> age

 

> > of nineteen, the Emperor bestowed on him the title " Chin Fateh Khan " ..

 

> >

 

> > As said earlier, if Saturn or Rahu afflicts Jup and Mars or their

 

> signs,

 

> > India and Govt both has to face stiff challange, Though, Rahu is

 

> > transiting Sagittarious, but Saturn is not directly involved however

 

> it

 

> > casting it's aspect on scorpio, but will not afflicting either Jup or

 

> > their signs, so, no quick thoughtless reconstruction of the states in

 

> > India.

 

> >

 

> > If we look at current scenario though Jup has been in debility, now

 

> > transits Aquarius.

 

> > Jup in Aquarius always tend to put Indian rulers in ordeal, posing

 

> > challanges to show competence, If government shows it, ruling team

 

> > continues otherwise changes come, at least revamp of cabinet is

 

> likely.

 

> >

 

> > For the curent movement for division of Andhra, transit indicates a

 

> > turning point is likely to emerge, as Jup w'd soon move out to Pisces

 

> in

 

> > May 2010, Simultaneously, Mars w'd also come out of it's debility,

 

> This

 

> > pattern of transit shows current turbulance to pacify, It should get

 

> > distilled by April - May 2010, Earlier, I thought it to cool down in a

 

> > month's time but forgot to notice Saturn is going in standstill

 

> > mode, seems this saturn will keep simmering the current protest for

 

> some

 

> > more time, Anyways, Once Jup crosses the Aquarius more then 15 degrees

 

> > becomes Uchhabhlilashi, it will ensure that there is a foresighted

 

> > justified decision on this burning issue, the decision w'd not be

 

> based

 

> > on regionalism but w'd be based on equal development and will take

 

> place

 

> > after a serious brainstorming for the better quality governance of

 

> > remote areas.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Jyotish finds that in the time ahead when Saturn or Rahu transits

 

> either

 

> > Scorpio (2013-14) or Aries (2028-2029) afflicting Mar's in rather

 

> > permanent manner then only forced change in India's map like the one

 

> > seen today can happen, Such a change is always subject to Jup's

 

> > strength.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Jup signifies the integrity of country and it's wellness as well, we

 

> > should rest assured that after MAY 2010, India w'd have a high

 

> > performance govt, either same team and leader will work significantly

 

> > better or somebody new come into picture. Jup and Mars when transits

 

> > Pisces or Aries they try their best to give a high performace govt to

 

> > this country, remain hopeful.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > The day we get a PM with strong and well placed Jup and Mars in chart,

 

> > under his tenure India w'd route towards it's glory, a glory that we

 

> > have read in ancient history.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ------------ --------

 

> > Utkal Panigrahi.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

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