Marriage date

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Dear Krushna:

 

Thanks a lot for your prompt response. I have corrected the worksheet using your Ayanamsha and now Saturn and Moon are the most powerful significators with15 points each followed by Mars and Venus with12 points each. I need some more clarifications.

 

You wrote:

"The Sun using Krushna's ayanansha goes in Libra 3rd house. As far as it is concerned with close relation ship with opposite sex, we should consider 5th house. So Mercury Venus Jupiter all gives good relationship."

 

Let us look at Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter one by one.

 

Mercury is the lord of 11th and 2nd houses and is in the 2nd house (house A). It also rules the constellation Aslesha (Saturn's constellation). Can she get married during the Mercury sub-period? In the worksheet, Mercury has only 9 points.

 

Looking at Venus, it has 12 points in the worksheet. It is also a natural samdharmi for Saturn and is in the 4th house (house D). It can give marriage but its sub-period is quite far.

 

Now let us consider Jupiter. Significator Moon with 15 points is the lord of house E and is in the constellation ruled by Jupiter. Can Jupiter give marriage in this case? Jupiter has just 8 points in the worksheet.

 

You also wrote that "Considering 7th house as Partenership, (as per Hindu law) She can have it in Ketu sub Period. So I can say she can marry in Ketu sub periuod (Ketu = Mars)."

 

The probable date(s) for marriage are: April 26 and April 27, 2005. This is based on the premise that marriage takes place during Ketu sub-period and uses the probable date finder table and on these days Moon is in Scorpio in the 6th house from natal Moon and the significator combination used is Mars and Ketu.

 

Do you think I should have used some other significator combinations as well. For the Mars-Mercury combination the probable dates are June 20-June21, 2005.

 

If the marriage can take place during the Jupiter or Mercury subperiods, I can try to find probable dates for those combinations as well.

 

Thanks a lot for all your help and with best regards,

 

Kamlesh

 

 

 

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om gurave namah------------------------Dear Jaan

Just ensure that there are no planets in the seventh and eighth houses and that the Karaka Venus is strong.With best wishesSanjay Rathhttp://sanjayrath.tripod.com

- jaan911

Varahamihira

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 8:55 PM

[Hare Rama Krishna] marriage date

two of my friends are getting married this year. some astrologers have toldthem the 31st of august 2002 will be an auspicious day to marry.having looked at the date, there is KAY for 31st august this year.there is a powerful graha malika yoga too involving all planets.5 planets are exalted and sun is in own house. even with all these exaltedplanets should they get married on a day when KAY exists ?what combinations should not exist for a marriage date or time?i dont have the exact time of birth for bride and groom. for the bride herrahu and ketu natal positions are reversed for the marriage date.lovejaanOM TAT SATArchive: varahamihiraFiles: varahamihiravarahamihira/database

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Dear Shekhar According to the Date and time etc. given The chart was cast, using Raichur's SW The Mars Dasha runs from 1,4,2021 to 1-4-2028. So lot of time yet This chart is a case where prima facie, Mars is the single significator of 7th house, with NO PLANETS in its star. Please see page 195 of 4t reader june 1993. I reproduce it here "If a particular house is unoccupied and the constellations of the owner of the house is also unocuppied, then those planets in the sub of that planet will offer the results " In other words if in the significator tables A,B,C are blank, and only D is seen, then check the planets whose sublord is this planet in D. In this case A,B,C are vacant. NO planets also in sub of Mars. I beleive in such a case we should take the E column,

planets aspected by Mars as strong significators. Anyway please the check the Dasa sequence, and then check how you concluded that marriage shd have taken in Mars Dasa. Shekhar <cskulkarni wrote: Guruji's, This person is born on DOB : 29th of June 1978 TOB : 3:23 AM POB : Pune - Maharashtra The question was regarding his marriage date. As of

now he has the sun dasha and according to me he should have got married in the sub dasha of mars who is the seven house significator however it did not happen. Could I request you to please tell me why and when is the possible date of his marriage. -- Regards,Shekhar Kulkarni

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Dear Friends,

 

My primary response, is Mars is in sub of Venus representing 6th

 

hence Mars unable to help. further Sat signf of 11th was retro in

 

Cancer for several months.

 

 

Sat. with Mars in 4th,.aspecting 1st,6th. causes delay.

 

 

The above reasons did not promote marriage.

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Shekhar

> According to the Date and time etc. given The chart was cast,

using Raichur's SW

> The Mars Dasha runs from 1,4,2021 to 1-4-2028. So lot of time yet

>

> This chart is a case where prima facie, Mars is the single

significator of 7th house, with NO PLANETS in its star.

>

> Please see page 195 of 4t reader june 1993. I reproduce it here

>

> " If a particular house is unoccupied and the constellations of

the owner of the house is also unocuppied, then those planets in the

sub of that planet will offer the results "

>

> In other words if in the significator tables A,B,C are blank,

and only D is seen, then check the planets whose sublord is this

planet in D.

>

> In this case A,B,C are vacant. NO planets also in sub of Mars.

>

> I beleive in such a case we should take the E column, planets

aspected by Mars as strong significators.

>

> Anyway please the check the Dasa sequence, and then check how

you concluded that marriage shd have taken in Mars Dasa.

>

>

>

> Shekhar <cskulkarni wrote:

> Guruji's,

>

> This person is born on

> DOB : 29th of June 1978

> TOB : 3:23 AM

> POB : Pune - Maharashtra

>

> The question was regarding his marriage date. As of now he has

the sun dasha and according to me he should have got married in the

sub dasha of mars who is the seven house significator however it did

not happen. Could I request you to please tell me why and when is

the possible date of his marriage.

>

>

> --

> Regards,

> Shekhar Kulkarni

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

>

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Dear Sorabh,

 

Please give the calculation details as per

KAS on your findings for April 2008 so that senior members can give guidance.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of mrsorabhsharma

Sunday December 9, 2007 9:24

PM

 

Subject:

Marriage Date

 

 

 

 

 

Hi all

 

I would like a more senior member to pls confirm my estimate for the

marriage date for this native who is a friend of mine :

 

20-june-1982

08:26am

location: uk, greenwich

 

I predict around april 2008 - does anyone else agree ? feedback would

be most appreciated

 

kind regards

sorabh sharma

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Hello,

 

Thank you Mr Satish. Your prediction has been indeed very true infact after over an year and a half. The marriage did happen as according to your prediction in the month of january 2008. Kudos to your knowledge of astrology. I am sure you have a very good placed mercury in your horoscope with a aspect of jupiter or mars to it. ...

 

Regards,

Shekhar Kulkarni

 

On 23/08/2006, R Satish <rsatish1942 wrote: Dear Sekhar,Using Kp approach,Mars although 7th Lors/significator its Venussub does not support. Also support of Sat n/a due Retrograde motion.

A year later, after Jup enters Dhanur.with Sat in Simha,Lagna,moon will be simultaneously aspected, will the good year 07/08.for marriage.Sun will enter Dhanur and conjoin Jup in Dhanur in Dec 07, I see

the possibilty then. Sat aspect on Lagna with Kuja dosha createsdelays in marriage.Your friend if trying to go abroad will meet with success.Heshould be in Engg service,I think. Best wishes.

Satish , " Shekhar Kulkarni " <cskulkarni wrote:

>> Guruji's,>> This individual is born on> DOB : 29th of June 1978> TOB : 3:23 AM> POB : Pune - Maharashtra>> The question was regarding his marriage date. As of now he has the

sun> dasha and according to me he should have got married in the subdasha> of mars who is the seven house significator however it did nothappen.> Could I request you to please tell me why and when is the possible

date> of his marriage.>>> --> Regards,> Shekhar Kulkarni>-- Regards,Shekhar Kulkarni

-- Regards,Shekhar Kulkarni

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28.01.2008

Dear Manu,

Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

 

No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

 

I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in ascendant with 6 points?

Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it is seeing house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high points for 7th & 12th houses.

 

In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by Sa on this account.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh,

>

>Good attempt.

>

>Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But, due to Ju

>being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart so it will

>increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as 21, we can

>say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

>

>Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th house so

>marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get fixed.

>

>Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can also be

>seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to match.

>

>Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988 for girl's

>father?

>

>Thanks & Regards,

>Manu

>

>

>

>On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

>nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> >

> > 27.01.2008

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> >

> > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart in his forum

> > with known event would be better. So I have case study here, the marriage of

> > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also put up my

> > questions pertaining to it.

> >

> > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and who shall be

> > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs, 27.09.N. 78.00E.

> >

> > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of this girl

> > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place in April 2008.

> > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line as per the

> > KAS theories.

> >

> > Analysis by KAS:

> > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking of her

> > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not earlier to this age

> > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she is living with

> > her family.

> > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was running the dasha

> > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> >

> > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring marriage to her.

> >

> > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but Saturn is

> > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub period. (But

> > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which somehow did not

> > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart. Reasons mentioned in

> > the last para of my analysis).

> >

> > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house, we

> > find that;

> > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> >

> > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and because of 1

> > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> >

> > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for marriage. (My

> > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is aspecting the

> > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is sitting with LOA,

> > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> >

> > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> >

> > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV did not permit

> > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> >

> > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from Oct 2005 to Jan

> > 2008.

> >

> > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of 7th house.

> > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> >

> > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > KAS theory states that;

> > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or planets in 12th

> > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th house matters.

> > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or planets in 9th

> > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th house matters.

> >

> > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th house

> > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> >

> > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2 points in the

> > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give the results of

> > 7th house in its sub-period.

> >

> > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th house. Here Me

> > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> >

> > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE PLACE IN HE

> > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007 (it is

> > Arranged marriage for her).

> >

> > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3 BAV points for

> > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to Ketu.

> > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for 7th house but

> > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points here). So it can

> > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> >

> > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY MARRIED IN THE AD

> > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been fixed in April

> > 2008.

> >

> > MY QUERIES:

> >

> > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the AD of Me

> > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for me. I knew the

> > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of marriage (Sept

> > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been that the girl

> > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan 2008.

> >

> > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart shows that

> > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to marriage. This is

> > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with Venus. Then Saturn

> > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of 4th house and

> > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to Mars. So there

> > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and 10th house (

> > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT TECHNICALLY.

> >

> > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and queries from all

> > members on the above analysis,

> >

> > Regards,

> > nikhlesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc 27 Ta 5.

> > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra navamsa.

> > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara of Me.

> > > Please check it up.

> > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the chart of known

> > event before the forum.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> >

> > [image: Tata Sky]<http://adworks.rediff.com/cgi-bin/AdWorks/click.cgi/www.rediff.com/signature-home.htm/1050715198@Middle5/2038178_2030947/2038079/1?PARTNER=3 & OAS_QUERY=null>

> >

> >

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Dear Nikhlesh and Manu,

 

I got a few minutes so will reply. Manu, you can guide Nikhlesh

further as and when u get a chance.

 

Nikhlesh, Ju in libra will cause delay. Donna has recently added

the delay part in grahpical format on her website, in Visual 8. You

can refer to that as well for a nice pictoral understanding.

 

For Saturn to cause full delay, it must aspect / conjoin A or LoA

and B or LoB and C or LoC in Rasi or navamsa.

 

Now, in Navamsa we do not consider house per say. However if Saturn

is in 5th house in navamsa then it will affect all 3 house so it can

cause delay. There are some more exceptions but those we can take

up as an when charts come up so that that understanding will come.

 

I do not have the chart in front of me, but say Saturn aspects House

A and C in Rasi and House B in navamsa then u CANNOT take it like

that.

 

Instead if LoC of Rasi was aspected by Saturn in navamsa and Sa

aspects House A and B then there would be full delay.

 

In some post this is given. If someone has the time, they can look

that post up and help Nikhlesh out.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

(Writing from Krushnaji's House)

 

 

 

, " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

>  

> 28.01.2008

> Dear Manu,

> Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

>

> No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

>

> I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

ascendant with 6 points?

> Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it

is seeing house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has

high points for 7th & 12th houses.

>

> In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by

Sa on this account.

>

> Regards,

> Nikhlesh

>

> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> >Dear Nikhlesh,

> >

> >Good attempt.

> >

> >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But,

due to Ju

> >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart

so it will

> >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as

21, we can

> >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> >

> >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th house

so

> >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

fixed.

> >

> >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can

also be

> >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to

match.

> >

> >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988

for girl's

> >father?

> >

> >Thanks & Regards,

> >Manu

> >

> >

> >

> >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> >nikhleshmathur wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > 27.01.2008

> > >

> > > Dear Group Members,

> > >

> > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart

in his forum

> > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here,

the marriage of

> > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also put

up my

> > > questions pertaining to it.

> > >

> > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and

who shall be

> > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs,

27.09.N. 78.00E.

> > >

> > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of

this girl

> > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place in

April 2008.

> > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line

as per the

> > > KAS theories.

> > >

> > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking of

her

> > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

earlier to this age

> > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she is

living with

> > > her family.

> > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

running the dasha

> > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > >

> > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

marriage to her.

> > >

> > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but

Saturn is

> > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub

period. (But

> > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

somehow did not

> > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart. Reasons

mentioned in

> > > the last para of my analysis).

> > >

> > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

house, we

> > > find that;

> > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > >

> > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and

because of 1

> > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> > >

> > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

marriage. (My

> > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is

aspecting the

> > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

sitting with LOA,

> > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > >

> > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > >

> > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV

did not permit

> > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > >

> > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from Oct

2005 to Jan

> > > 2008.

> > >

> > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of 7th

house.

> > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > >

> > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > KAS theory states that;

> > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

planets in 12th

> > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

house matters.

> > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

planets in 9th

> > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th

house matters.

> > >

> > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th

house

> > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > >

> > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

points in the

> > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give the

results of

> > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > >

> > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

house. Here Me

> > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > >

> > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE

PLACE IN HE

> > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007

(it is

> > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > >

> > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3

BAV points for

> > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to

Ketu.

> > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for 7th

house but

> > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

here). So it can

> > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > >

> > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY MARRIED

IN THE AD

> > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been

fixed in April

> > > 2008.

> > >

> > > MY QUERIES:

> > >

> > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the

AD of Me

> > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for me.

I knew the

> > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of

marriage (Sept

> > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been

that the girl

> > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan 2008.

> > >

> > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart

shows that

> > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to marriage.

This is

> > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

Venus. Then Saturn

> > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of

4th house and

> > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to

Mars. So there

> > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and

10th house (

> > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

TECHNICALLY.

> > >

> > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and queries

from all

> > > members on the above analysis,

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > nikhlesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc

27 Ta 5.

> > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra navamsa.

> > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara of

Me.

> > > > Please check it up.

> > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the

chart of known

> > > event before the forum.

> > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > >

> > >

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Dear Ash,

 

Thanks for your quick reply. I am trying to dig further to get the concepts in my mind.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 ashsam73 wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh and Manu,

>

>I got a few minutes so will reply. Manu, you can guide Nikhlesh

>further as and when u get a chance.

>

>Nikhlesh, Ju in libra will cause delay. Donna has recently added

>the delay part in grahpical format on her website, in Visual 8. You

>can refer to that as well for a nice pictoral understanding.

>

>For Saturn to cause full delay, it must aspect / conjoin A or LoA

>and B or LoB and C or LoC in Rasi or navamsa.

>

>Now, in Navamsa we do not consider house per say. However if Saturn

>is in 5th house in navamsa then it will affect all 3 house so it can

>cause delay. There are some more exceptions but those we can take

>up as an when charts come up so that that understanding will come.

>

>I do not have the chart in front of me, but say Saturn aspects House

>A and C in Rasi and House B in navamsa then u CANNOT take it like

>that.

>

>Instead if LoC of Rasi was aspected by Saturn in navamsa and Sa

>aspects House A and B then there would be full delay.

>

>In some post this is given. If someone has the time, they can look

>that post up and help Nikhlesh out.

>

>Cheers !!!

>Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>(Writing from Krushnaji's House)

>

>

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

><nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> >

> > 28.01.2008

> > Dear Manu,

> > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

> >

> > No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

> >

> > I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

>ascendant with 6 points?

> > Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it

>is seeing house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has

>high points for 7th & 12th houses.

> >

> > In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by

>Sa on this account.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Nikhlesh

> >

> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > >

> > >Good attempt.

> > >

> > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But,

>due to Ju

> > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart

>so it will

> > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as

>21, we can

> > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> > >

> > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th house

>so

> > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

>fixed.

> > >

> > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can

>also be

> > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to

>match.

> > >

> > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988

>for girl's

> > >father?

> > >

> > >Thanks & Regards,

> > >Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> > >nikhleshmathur wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 27.01.2008

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > >

> > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart

>in his forum

> > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here,

>the marriage of

> > > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also put

>up my

> > > > questions pertaining to it.

> > > >

> > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and

>who shall be

> > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs,

>27.09.N. 78.00E.

> > > >

> > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of

>this girl

> > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place in

>April 2008.

> > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line

>as per the

> > > > KAS theories.

> > > >

> > > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking of

>her

> > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

>earlier to this age

> > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she is

>living with

> > > > her family.

> > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

>running the dasha

> > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > > >

> > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

>marriage to her.

> > > >

> > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but

>Saturn is

> > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub

>period. (But

> > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

>somehow did not

> > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart. Reasons

>mentioned in

> > > > the last para of my analysis).

> > > >

> > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

>house, we

> > > > find that;

> > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and

>because of 1

> > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

>marriage. (My

> > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is

>aspecting the

> > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

>sitting with LOA,

> > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > > >

> > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > > >

> > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV

>did not permit

> > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > > >

> > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from Oct

>2005 to Jan

> > > > 2008.

> > > >

> > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of 7th

>house.

> > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > > >

> > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > > KAS theory states that;

> > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

>planets in 12th

> > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

>house matters.

> > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

>planets in 9th

> > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th

>house matters.

> > > >

> > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th

>house

> > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

>points in the

> > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give the

>results of

> > > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > > >

> > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

>house. Here Me

> > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > > >

> > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE

>PLACE IN HE

> > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007

>(it is

> > > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > > >

> > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3

>BAV points for

> > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to

>Ketu.

> > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for 7th

>house but

> > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

>here). So it can

> > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > > >

> > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY MARRIED

>IN THE AD

> > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been

>fixed in April

> > > > 2008.

> > > >

> > > > MY QUERIES:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the

>AD of Me

> > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for me.

>I knew the

> > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of

>marriage (Sept

> > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been

>that the girl

> > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan 2008.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart

>shows that

> > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to marriage.

>This is

> > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

>Venus. Then Saturn

> > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of

>4th house and

> > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to

>Mars. So there

> > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and

>10th house (

> > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

>TECHNICALLY.

> > > >

> > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and queries

> from all

> > > > members on the above analysis,

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > nikhlesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc

>27 Ta 5.

> > > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra navamsa.

> > > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara of

>Me.

> > > > > Please check it up.

> > > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the

>chart of known

> > > > event before the forum.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Nikhlesh,

 

Ash has explained that Sa delay part.

Similar thing applies for Ju delay as well. Both house B and house A should be

effected. For Ju delay house C is not taken into consideration.

 

I don’t have the chart in front of

me, but here Ju is not effecting house A hence, Ju delay is not there.

 

But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also

I think there was one zero in the chart. So, the latter two only are to be

considered for delay.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of nikhlesh mathur

Monday, January 28, 2008

1:06 PM

To:

 

Re: Re:

Marriage date

 

 

28.01.2008

Dear Manu,

Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

 

No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

 

I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in ascendant with 6

points?

Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it is seeing

house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high points for 7th

& 12th houses.

 

In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by Sa on this

account.

 

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh,

>

>Good attempt.

>

>Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But, due to Ju

>being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart so it will

>increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as 21, we can

>say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

>

>Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th house so

>marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get fixed.

>

>Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can also be

>seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to match.

>

>Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988 for girl's

>father?

>

>Thanks & Regards,

>Manu

>

>

>

>On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

>nikhleshmathur wrote:

> >

> >

> > 27.01.2008

> >

> > Dear Group Members,

> >

> >

I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart in his forum

> > with known event would be better. So I have case study here, the

marriage of

> > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also put up my

> > questions pertaining to it.

> >

> > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and who

shall be

> > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs, 27.09.N.

78.00E.

> >

> > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of this

girl

> > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place in April

2008.

> > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line as per

the

> > KAS theories.

> >

> > Analysis by KAS:

> > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking of her

> > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not earlier to

this age

> > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she is living

with

> > her family.

> > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was running the

dasha

> > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> >

> > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring marriage to

her.

> >

> > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but

Saturn is

> > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub period.

(But

> > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which somehow did

not

> > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart. Reasons

mentioned in

> > the last para of my analysis).

> >

> > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house,

we

> > find that;

> > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> >

> > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and because

of 1

> > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> >

> > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for marriage. (My

> > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is aspecting

the

> > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is sitting with

LOA,

> > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> >

> > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> >

> > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV did not

permit

> > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> >

> > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from Oct 2005

to Jan

> > 2008.

> >

> > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of 7th house.

> > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> >

> > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > KAS theory states that;

> > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

planets in 12th

> > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th house

matters.

> > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

planets in 9th

> > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th house

matters.

> >

> > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th house

> > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> >

> > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2 points in

the

> > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give the

results of

> > 7th house in its sub-period.

> >

> > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th house. Here

Me

> > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> >

> > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE PLACE IN

HE

> > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007 (it is

> > Arranged marriage for her).

> >

> > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3 BAV

points for

> > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to Ketu.

> > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for 7th

house but

> > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points here). So

it can

> > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> >

> > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY MARRIED IN THE

AD

> > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been fixed in

April

> > 2008.

> >

> > MY QUERIES:

> >

> > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before

the AD of Me

> > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for me. I knew

the

> > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of marriage

(Sept

> > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been that the

girl

> > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan 2008.

> >

> > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the

chart shows that

> > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to marriage. This

is

> > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with Venus.

Then Saturn

> > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of 4th

house and

> > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to Mars. So

there

> > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and 10th

house (

> > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT TECHNICALLY.

> >

> > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and queries from

all

> > members on the above analysis,

> >

> > Regards,

> > nikhlesh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc

27 Ta 5.

> > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra

navamsa.

> > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara

of Me.

> > > Please check it up.

> > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the

chart of known

> > event before the forum.

> > > Thanks and regards.

> > > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> >

> > [image: Tata

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[Guest guest]

Dear Nikhlesh,

 

Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are given

in lesson.

 

Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for

example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional

Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.

 

Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts are

spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too might

cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now that

can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or

multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.

 

Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far from

sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and its

bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at the

same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are

destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that also

from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse.

 

Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause delay.

1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes

subject to some conditions might deny marriage.

 

So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That

approximation is given in some mail.

 

Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or say

correction factor.

 

In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then

generally in big cities people are now a days doing their graduation

and getting a job before settling down in marriage.

 

So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant and

good dasha for education is running then a person might study during

that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here in

this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario or

say " desh kaal paatra " correction factor.

 

Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family background

for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a

good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to any

planet, but its man made.

 

So your question is not very easy to reply.

 

Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates and

gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per his

or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in that

case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That can be

found out easily based on the calculation that are given.

 

So at times we must be practical.

 

Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can ask

much about family background, even when u see a person u can say so

many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't judge

the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.

 

So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our

judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u are

coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect antra

then its quite an acheivement.

 

In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra for

marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow the

antra and then pin point the event to 13 days.

 

Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight delay or

even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.

 

IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20% delay so

like that.

 

Ju in libra might cause delay.

 

Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite

there are long delays.

 

Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.

 

Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in nak of

sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given above.

 

Hope these things help,

 

Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data that

u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to time

the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

, " nikhlesh mathur "

<nikhleshmathur wrote:

>

>  

> Dear Manu,

>

> Thanks.

> It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to affect

both B & A.

> I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks for

clarifying it for me.

> I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash & Ramesh

in mind.

>

> One question arises in my mind is:

> ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to one

aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to any

other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What

factors are considered?

>

> Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any delay

due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1 zero

in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?

>

> I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> Nikhlesh

>

> On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :

> >Dear Nikhlesh,

> >

> >

> >

> >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies for Ju

delay as

> >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju delay

house C is

> >not taken into consideration.

> >

> >

> >

> >I don't have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not

effecting house A

> >hence, Ju delay is not there.

> >

> >

> >

> >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was one

zero in

> >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for delay.

> >

> >

> >

> >Hope this helps.

> >

> >

> >

> >Thanks & Regards,

> >

> >Manu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of

nikhlesh

> >mathur

> >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM

> >

> >Re: Re: Marriage date

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >28.01.2008

> >Dear Manu,

> > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

> >

> >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

> >

> >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

ascendant with

> >6 points?

> >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it

is seeing

> >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high

points for 7th

> > & 12th houses.

> >

> >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by

Sa on

> >this account.

> >

> >Regards,

> >Nikhlesh

> >

> >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > >

> > >Good attempt.

> > >

> > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But,

due to Ju

> > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart

so it will

> > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as

21, we can

> > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> > >

> > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th

house so

> > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

fixed.

> > >

> > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can

also be

> > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to

match.

> > >

> > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988

for girl's

> > >father?

> > >

> > >Thanks & Regards,

> > >Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> > >nikhleshmathur wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 27.01.2008

> > > >

> > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > >

> > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart

in his

> >forum

> > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here,

the

> >marriage of

> > > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also

put up my

> > > > questions pertaining to it.

> > > >

> > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and

who shall

> >be

> > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs,

27.09.N.

> >78.00E.

> > > >

> > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of

this girl

> > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place

in April

> >2008.

> > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line

as per the

> > > > KAS theories.

> > > >

> > > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking

of her

> > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

earlier to this

> >age

> > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she

is living

> >with

> > > > her family.

> > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

running the

> >dasha

> > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > > >

> > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

marriage to her.

> > > >

> > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but

Saturn is

> > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub

period.

> >(But

> > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

somehow did not

> > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart.

Reasons mentioned

> >in

> > > > the last para of my analysis).

> > > >

> > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

house, we

> > > > find that;

> > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and

because of 1

> > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> > > >

> > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

marriage. (My

> > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is

aspecting the

> > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

sitting with

> >LOA,

> > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > > >

> > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > > >

> > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV

did not

> >permit

> > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > > >

> > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from

Oct 2005 to

> >Jan

> > > > 2008.

> > > >

> > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of

7th house.

> > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > > >

> > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > > KAS theory states that;

> > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

planets in 12th

> > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

house matters.

> > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

planets in 9th

> > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th

house

> >matters.

> > > >

> > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th

house

> > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > > >

> > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

points in the

> > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give

the results

> >of

> > > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > > >

> > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

house. Here Me

> > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > > >

> > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE

PLACE IN HE

> > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007

(it is

> > > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > > >

> > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3

BAV points

> >for

> > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to

Ketu.

> > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for

7th house but

> > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

here). So it

> >can

> > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > > >

> > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY

MARRIED IN THE AD

> > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been

fixed in

> >April

> > > > 2008.

> > > >

> > > > MY QUERIES:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the

AD of Me

> > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for

me. I knew

> >the

> > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of

marriage

> >(Sept

> > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been

that the girl

> > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan

2008.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart

shows that

> > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to

marriage. This is

> > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

Venus. Then

> >Saturn

> > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of

4th house

> >and

> > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to

Mars. So

> >there

> > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and

10th house (

> > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

TECHNICALLY.

> > > >

> > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and

queries from all

> > > > members on the above analysis,

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > nikhlesh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc

27 Ta 5.

> > > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra navamsa.

> > > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara

of Me.

> > > > > Please check it up.

> > > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the

chart of

> >known

> > > > event before the forum.

> > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ashji,

 

thanks for very good explanation.

 

you said " powerful blessing " . are there any criteria for that.

like non-involvement of 6th lord with lord of lagna and 9th house...

and lord of lagna or 9th house not in rasi or navamsa of 6th lord.

can you please elaborate on this.

 

also if blessing has anything to do with quality of result ?

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh,

>

> Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are given

> in lesson.

>

> Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for

> example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional

> Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.

>

> Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts are

> spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too might

> cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now that

> can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or

> multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.

>

> Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far from

> sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and its

> bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at the

> same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are

> destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that also

> from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse.

>

> Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause delay.

> 1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes

> subject to some conditions might deny marriage.

>

> So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That

> approximation is given in some mail.

>

> Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or say

> correction factor.

>

> In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then

> generally in big cities people are now a days doing their graduation

> and getting a job before settling down in marriage.

>

> So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant and

> good dasha for education is running then a person might study during

> that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here in

> this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario or

> say " desh kaal paatra " correction factor.

>

> Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family background

> for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a

> good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to any

> planet, but its man made.

>

> So your question is not very easy to reply.

>

> Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates and

> gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per his

> or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in that

> case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That can be

> found out easily based on the calculation that are given.

>

> So at times we must be practical.

>

> Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can ask

> much about family background, even when u see a person u can say so

> many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't judge

> the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.

>

> So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our

> judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u are

> coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect antra

> then its quite an acheivement.

>

> In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra for

> marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow the

> antra and then pin point the event to 13 days.

>

> Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight delay or

> even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.

>

> IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20% delay so

> like that.

>

> Ju in libra might cause delay.

>

> Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite

> there are long delays.

>

> Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.

>

> Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in nak of

> sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given above.

>

> Hope these things help,

>

> Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data that

> u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to time

> the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

> <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > Thanks.

> > It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to affect

> both B & A.

> > I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks for

> clarifying it for me.

> > I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash & Ramesh

> in mind.

> >

> > One question arises in my mind is:

> > ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to one

> aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to any

> other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What

> factors are considered?

> >

> > Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any delay

> due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1 zero

> in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?

> >

> > I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Nikhlesh

> >

> > On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies for Ju

> delay as

> > >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju delay

> house C is

> > >not taken into consideration.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I don't have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not

> effecting house A

> > >hence, Ju delay is not there.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was one

> zero in

> > >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for delay.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Hope this helps.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > >Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of

> nikhlesh

> > >mathur

> > >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM

> > >

> > >Re: Re: Marriage date

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >28.01.2008

> > >Dear Manu,

> > > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

> > >

> > >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

> > >

> > >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

> ascendant with

> > >6 points?

> > >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it

> is seeing

> > >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high

> points for 7th

> > > & 12th houses.

> > >

> > >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by

> Sa on

> > >this account.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >Nikhlesh

> > >

> > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > >

> > > >Good attempt.

> > > >

> > > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But,

> due to Ju

> > > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart

> so it will

> > > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as

> 21, we can

> > > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> > > >

> > > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th

> house so

> > > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

> fixed.

> > > >

> > > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can

> also be

> > > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to

> match.

> > > >

> > > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988

> for girl's

> > > >father?

> > > >

> > > >Thanks & Regards,

> > > >Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> > > >nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 27.01.2008

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart

> in his

> > >forum

> > > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here,

> the

> > >marriage of

> > > > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also

> put up my

> > > > > questions pertaining to it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and

> who shall

> > >be

> > > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs,

> 27.09.N.

> > >78.00E.

> > > > >

> > > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of

> this girl

> > > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place

> in April

> > >2008.

> > > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line

> as per the

> > > > > KAS theories.

> > > > >

> > > > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking

> of her

> > > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

> earlier to this

> > >age

> > > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she

> is living

> > >with

> > > > > her family.

> > > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

> running the

> > >dasha

> > > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > > > >

> > > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

> marriage to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but

> Saturn is

> > > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub

> period.

> > >(But

> > > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

> somehow did not

> > > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart.

> Reasons mentioned

> > >in

> > > > > the last para of my analysis).

> > > > >

> > > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

> house, we

> > > > > find that;

> > > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and

> because of 1

> > > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

> marriage. (My

> > > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is

> aspecting the

> > > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

> sitting with

> > >LOA,

> > > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > > > >

> > > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV

> did not

> > >permit

> > > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from

> Oct 2005 to

> > >Jan

> > > > > 2008.

> > > > >

> > > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of

> 7th house.

> > > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > > > >

> > > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > > > KAS theory states that;

> > > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

> planets in 12th

> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

> house matters.

> > > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

> planets in 9th

> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th

> house

> > >matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th

> house

> > > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

> points in the

> > > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give

> the results

> > >of

> > > > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

> house. Here Me

> > > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE

> PLACE IN HE

> > > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007

> (it is

> > > > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > > > >

> > > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3

> BAV points

> > >for

> > > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to

> Ketu.

> > > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for

> 7th house but

> > > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

> here). So it

> > >can

> > > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY

> MARRIED IN THE AD

> > > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been

> fixed in

> > >April

> > > > > 2008.

> > > > >

> > > > > MY QUERIES:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the

> AD of Me

> > > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for

> me. I knew

> > >the

> > > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of

> marriage

> > >(Sept

> > > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been

> that the girl

> > > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan

> 2008.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart

> shows that

> > > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to

> marriage. This is

> > > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

> Venus. Then

> > >Saturn

> > > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of

> 4th house

> > >and

> > > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to

> Mars. So

> > >there

> > > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and

> 10th house (

> > > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

> TECHNICALLY.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and

> queries from all

> > > > > members on the above analysis,

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > nikhlesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc

> 27 Ta 5.

> > > > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra navamsa.

> > > > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara

> of Me.

> > > > > > Please check it up.

> > > > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the

> chart of

> > >known

> > > > > event before the forum.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

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Dear Harjeet,

 

You are correct. If blessing causing planets are SD to 6th lord then the

quality of blessing gets reduced.

 

Let me try explaining the way Krushnaji explained blessings.

 

Consider the event that a stone is thrown at you. Now if you have blessings,

blessings will be like a shield which can make the stone rebound to a

different direction. The event still happened, " the stone thrown at you " .

But its effect is reduced due to the shielding effect. Blessings protected

you.

 

That is the power of blessings!

 

I really liked the example that Krushnaji had given hence tried to give the

same example here.

 

If blessings are strong, consider it as an iron shield, if blessings are

weak, consider it as a cardboard shield. It cannot help you much but does

reduce the impact.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Manu

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of harjeet

bakshi

Friday, February 01, 2008 8:53 PM

 

Re: Marriage date

 

Dear Ashji,

 

thanks for very good explanation.

 

you said " powerful blessing " . are there any criteria for that.

like non-involvement of 6th lord with lord of lagna and 9th house...

and lord of lagna or 9th house not in rasi or navamsa of 6th lord.

can you please elaborate on this.

 

also if blessing has anything to do with quality of result ?

 

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Nikhlesh,

>

> Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are given

> in lesson.

>

> Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for

> example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional

> Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.

>

> Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts are

> spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too might

> cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now that

> can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or

> multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.

>

> Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far from

> sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and its

> bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at the

> same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are

> destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that also

> from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse.

>

> Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause delay.

> 1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes

> subject to some conditions might deny marriage.

>

> So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That

> approximation is given in some mail.

>

> Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or say

> correction factor.

>

> In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then

> generally in big cities people are now a days doing their graduation

> and getting a job before settling down in marriage.

>

> So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant and

> good dasha for education is running then a person might study during

> that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here in

> this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario or

> say " desh kaal paatra " correction factor.

>

> Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family background

> for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a

> good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to any

> planet, but its man made.

>

> So your question is not very easy to reply.

>

> Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates and

> gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per his

> or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in that

> case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That can be

> found out easily based on the calculation that are given.

>

> So at times we must be practical.

>

> Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can ask

> much about family background, even when u see a person u can say so

> many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't judge

> the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.

>

> So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our

> judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u are

> coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect antra

> then its quite an acheivement.

>

> In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra for

> marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow the

> antra and then pin point the event to 13 days.

>

> Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight delay or

> even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.

>

> IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20% delay so

> like that.

>

> Ju in libra might cause delay.

>

> Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite

> there are long delays.

>

> Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.

>

> Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in nak of

> sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given above.

>

> Hope these things help,

>

> Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data that

> u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to time

> the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

>

>

> , " nikhlesh mathur "

> <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Manu,

> >

> > Thanks.

> > It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to affect

> both B & A.

> > I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks for

> clarifying it for me.

> > I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash & Ramesh

> in mind.

> >

> > One question arises in my mind is:

> > ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to one

> aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to any

> other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What

> factors are considered?

> >

> > Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any delay

> due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1 zero

> in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?

> >

> > I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Nikhlesh

> >

> > On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :

> > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies for Ju

> delay as

> > >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju delay

> house C is

> > >not taken into consideration.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >I don't have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not

> effecting house A

> > >hence, Ju delay is not there.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was one

> zero in

> > >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for delay.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Hope this helps.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > >Manu

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of

> nikhlesh

> > >mathur

> > >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM

> > >

> > >Re: Re: Marriage date

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >28.01.2008

> > >Dear Manu,

> > > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

> > >

> > >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.

> > >

> > >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

> ascendant with

> > >6 points?

> > >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it

> is seeing

> > >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high

> points for 7th

> > > & 12th houses.

> > >

> > >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by

> Sa on

> > >this account.

> > >

> > >Regards,

> > >Nikhlesh

> > >

> > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > >

> > > >Good attempt.

> > > >

> > > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But,

> due to Ju

> > > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart

> so it will

> > > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as

> 21, we can

> > > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> > > >

> > > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th

> house so

> > > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

> fixed.

> > > >

> > > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can

> also be

> > > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to

> match.

> > > >

> > > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988

> for girl's

> > > >father?

> > > >

> > > >Thanks & Regards,

> > > >Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> > > >nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > 27.01.2008

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart

> in his

> > >forum

> > > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here,

> the

> > >marriage of

> > > > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also

> put up my

> > > > > questions pertaining to it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and

> who shall

> > >be

> > > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs,

> 27.09.N.

> > >78.00E.

> > > > >

> > > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of

> this girl

> > > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place

> in April

> > >2008.

> > > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line

> as per the

> > > > > KAS theories.

> > > > >

> > > > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking

> of her

> > > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

> earlier to this

> > >age

> > > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she

> is living

> > >with

> > > > > her family.

> > > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

> running the

> > >dasha

> > > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > > > >

> > > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

> marriage to her.

> > > > >

> > > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.

> > > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but

> Saturn is

> > > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub

> period.

> > >(But

> > > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

> somehow did not

> > > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart.

> Reasons mentioned

> > >in

> > > > > the last para of my analysis).

> > > > >

> > > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

> house, we

> > > > > find that;

> > > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > > > >

> > > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and

> because of 1

> > > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

> marriage. (My

> > > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is

> aspecting the

> > > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

> sitting with

> > >LOA,

> > > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > > > >

> > > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > > > >

> > > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV

> did not

> > >permit

> > > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from

> Oct 2005 to

> > >Jan

> > > > > 2008.

> > > > >

> > > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of

> 7th house.

> > > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > > > >

> > > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > > > KAS theory states that;

> > > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

> planets in 12th

> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

> house matters.

> > > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

> planets in 9th

> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th

> house

> > >matters.

> > > > >

> > > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th

> house

> > > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

> points in the

> > > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give

> the results

> > >of

> > > > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > > > >

> > > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

> house. Here Me

> > > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > > > >

> > > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE

> PLACE IN HE

> > > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007

> (it is

> > > > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > > > >

> > > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3

> BAV points

> > >for

> > > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to

> Ketu.

> > > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for

> 7th house but

> > > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

> here). So it

> > >can

> > > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > > > >

> > > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY

> MARRIED IN THE AD

> > > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been

> fixed in

> > >April

> > > > > 2008.

> > > > >

> > > > > MY QUERIES:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the

> AD of Me

> > > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for

> me. I knew

> > >the

> > > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of

> marriage

> > >(Sept

> > > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been

> that the girl

> > > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan

> 2008.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart

> shows that

> > > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to

> marriage. This is

> > > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

> Venus. Then

> > >Saturn

> > > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of

> 4th house

> > >and

> > > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to

> Mars. So

> > >there

> > > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and

> 10th house (

> > > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

> TECHNICALLY.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and

> queries from all

> > > > > members on the above analysis,

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > nikhlesh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives asc

> 27 Ta 5.

> > > > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra navamsa.

> > > > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the antara

> of Me.

> > > > > > Please check it up.

> > > > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring the

> chart of

> > >known

> > > > > event before the forum.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > >

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Dear Manu, Excellent !!!! Nice interpretation, no doubt. Hope we all will learn such basics in Pune too Regards Anup anu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Harjeet,You are correct. If blessing causing planets are SD to 6th lord then thequality of blessing gets reduced.Let me try explaining the way Krushnaji

explained blessings.Consider the event that a stone is thrown at you. Now if you have blessings,blessings will be like a shield which can make the stone rebound to adifferent direction. The event still happened, "the stone thrown at you".But its effect is reduced due to the shielding effect. Blessings protectedyou.That is the power of blessings!I really liked the example that Krushnaji had given hence tried to give thesame example here.If blessings are strong, consider it as an iron shield, if blessings areweak, consider it as a cardboard shield. It cannot help you much but doesreduce the impact. I hope this helps.Thanks & Regards,Manu [ ] On Behalf Of harjeetbakshiFriday, February 01, 2008 8:53 PMTo:

Subject: Re: Marriage dateDear Ashji,thanks for very good explanation. you said "powerful blessing". are there any criteria for that.like non-involvement of 6th lord with lord of lagna and 9th house...and lord of lagna or 9th house not in rasi or navamsa of 6th lord.can you please elaborate on this.also if blessing has anything to do with quality of result ?thanks/regardsharjeet , "ashsam73" wrote:>> Dear Nikhlesh,> > Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are given > in lesson.> > Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for > example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional > Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.> > Now, its said that if Venus

is spoilt then marriage and comforts are > spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too might > cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now that > can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or > multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.> > Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far from > sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and its > bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at the > same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are > destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that also > from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse. > > Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause delay. > 1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes > subject to some conditions might

deny marriage.> > So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That > approximation is given in some mail.> > Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or say > correction factor.> > In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then > generally in big cities people are now a days doing their graduation > and getting a job before settling down in marriage.> > So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant and > good dasha for education is running then a person might study during > that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here in > this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario or > say "desh kaal paatra" correction factor.> > Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family background > for example if a family is keen on giving

their daughter or son a > good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to any > planet, but its man made.> > So your question is not very easy to reply.> > Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates and > gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per his > or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in that > case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That can be > found out easily based on the calculation that are given.> > So at times we must be practical.> > Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can ask > much about family background, even when u see a person u can say so > many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't judge > the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.> > So, here if we are

using the laws, then we must also apply our > judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u are > coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect antra > then its quite an acheivement. > > In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra for > marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow the > antra and then pin point the event to 13 days. > > Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight delay or > even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.> > IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20% delay so > like that.> > Ju in libra might cause delay. > > Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite > there are long delays.> > Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.> > Venus spoilt might

cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in nak of > sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given above.> > Hope these things help,> > Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data that > u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to time > the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > Thanks.> > It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to affect > both B & A.> > I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks for > clarifying it for me.> > I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash & Ramesh

> in mind.> > > > One question arises in my mind is: > > ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to one > aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to any > other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What > factors are considered? > > > > Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any delay > due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1 zero > in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?> > > > I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Nikhlesh> > > > On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :> > >Dear Nikhlesh,> > >> > >> > >> > >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies for Ju > delay

as> > >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju delay > house C is> > >not taken into consideration.> > >> > >> > >> > >I don't have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not > effecting house A> > >hence, Ju delay is not there.> > >> > >> > >> > >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was one > zero in> > >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for delay.> > >> > >> > >> > >Hope this helps.> > >> > >> > >> > >Thanks & Regards,> > >> > >Manu> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > >

> > > On Behalf Of > nikhlesh> > >mathur> > >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM> > > > > >Re: Re: Marriage date> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >28.01.2008> > >Dear Manu,> > > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.> > >> > >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.> > >> > >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in > ascendant with> > >6 points?> > >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it > is seeing> > >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high >

points for 7th> > > & 12th houses.> > >> > >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by > Sa on> > >this account.> > >> > >Regards,> > >Nikhlesh> > >> > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :> > > >Dear Nikhlesh,> > > >> > > >Good attempt.> > > >> > > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But, > due to Ju> > > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart > so it will> > > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as > 21, we can> > > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.> > > >> > > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th > house so> >

> >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get > fixed.> > > >> > > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can > also be> > > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to > match.> > > >> > > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988 > for girl's> > > >father?> > > >> > > >Thanks & Regards,> > > >Manu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <> > > >nikhleshmathur@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 27.01.2008> > > > >> > > > > Dear Group Members,> > > > >> > > > > I

agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart > in his> > >forum> > > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here, > the> > >marriage of> > > > > a girl, the date of which is known.> > > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also > put up my> > > > > questions pertaining to it.> > > > >> > > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and > who shall> > >be> > > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs, > 27.09.N.> > >78.00E.> > > > >> > > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of > this girl> > > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place > in April> >

>2008.> > > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line > as per the> > > > > KAS theories.> > > > >> > > > > Analysis by KAS:> > > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking > of her> > > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not > earlier to this> > >age> > > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she > is living> > >with> > > > > her family.> > > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was > running the> > >dasha> > > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).> > > > >> > > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring > marriage to

her.> > > > >> > > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.> > > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.> > > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house but > Saturn is> > > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub > period.> > >(But> > > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which > somehow did not> > > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart. > Reasons mentioned> > >in> > > > > the last para of my analysis).> > > > >> > > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th > house, we> > > > > find that;> > > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.> > >

> >> > > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and > because of 1> > > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.> > > > >> > > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for > marriage. (My> > > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).> > > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is > aspecting the> > > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is > sitting with> > >LOA,> > > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)> > > > >> > > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.> > > > >> > > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV > did not>

> >permit> > > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.> > > > >> > > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from > Oct 2005 to> > >Jan> > > > > 2008.> > > > >> > > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of > 7th house.> > > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).> > > > >> > > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.> > > > > KAS theory states that;> > > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or > planets in 12th> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th > house matters.> > > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or > planets in 9th> >

> > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th > house> > >matters.> > > > >> > > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to 7th > house> > > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).> > > > >> > > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2 > points in the> > > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give > the results> > >of> > > > > 7th house in its sub-period.> > > > >> > > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th > house. Here Me> > > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.> > > > >> > > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE > PLACE IN HE>

> > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007 > (it is> > > > > Arranged marriage for her).> > > > >> > > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.> > > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3 > BAV points> > >for> > > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to > Ketu.> > > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for > 7th house but> > > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points > here). So it> > >can> > > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.> > > > >> > > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY > MARRIED IN THE AD> > > > > OF

KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been > fixed in> > >April> > > > > 2008.> > > > >> > > > > MY QUERIES:> > > > >> > > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the > AD of Me> > > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for > me. I knew> > >the> > > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of > marriage> > >(Sept> > > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been > that the girl> > > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan > 2008.> > > > >> > > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart > shows that> > > > > the girl had an affair

earlier which did not lead to > marriage. This is> > > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with > Venus. Then> > >Saturn> > > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of > 4th house> > >and> > > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to > Mars. So> > >there> > > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and > 10th house (> > > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT > TECHNICALLY.> > > > >> > > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and > queries from all> > > > > members on the above analysis,> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > nikhlesh> > > >

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Dear Manu, How sld we consider the effect of blessings in navamsa? I means,if lords of first and 9th house lords of navamsa got blessings in navamsa. Does this hold same shield for the native as in Rasi chart? Regards Anup Manu V Batura <astro.manu wrote: Dear Harjeet,You are correct. If blessing causing planets are SD to 6th lord then thequality of blessing gets reduced.Let me try explaining the way Krushnaji explained blessings.Consider the event that a stone is thrown at you. Now if you have blessings,blessings will be like a shield which can make the stone rebound to adifferent direction. The

event still happened, "the stone thrown at you".But its effect is reduced due to the shielding effect. Blessings protectedyou.That is the power of blessings!I really liked the example that Krushnaji had given hence tried to give thesame example here.If blessings are strong, consider it as an iron shield, if blessings areweak, consider it as a cardboard shield. It cannot help you much but doesreduce the impact. I hope this helps.Thanks & Regards,Manu [ ] On Behalf Of harjeetbakshiFriday, February 01, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: Re: Marriage dateDear Ashji,thanks for very good explanation. you said "powerful blessing". are there any criteria for that.like

non-involvement of 6th lord with lord of lagna and 9th house...and lord of lagna or 9th house not in rasi or navamsa of 6th lord.can you please elaborate on this.also if blessing has anything to do with quality of result ?thanks/regardsharjeet , "ashsam73" wrote:>> Dear Nikhlesh,> > Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are given > in lesson.> > Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for > example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional > Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.> > Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts are > spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too might > cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now that > can result in a myraid of things such

as multiple marriage, or > multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.> > Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far from > sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and its > bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at the > same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are > destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that also > from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse. > > Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause delay. > 1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes > subject to some conditions might deny marriage.> > So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That > approximation is given in some mail.> > Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or say

> correction factor.> > In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then > generally in big cities people are now a days doing their graduation > and getting a job before settling down in marriage.> > So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant and > good dasha for education is running then a person might study during > that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here in > this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario or > say "desh kaal paatra" correction factor.> > Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family background > for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a > good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to any > planet, but its man made.> > So your question is not very easy to reply.> > Yes, say, now

after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates and > gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per his > or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in that > case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That can be > found out easily based on the calculation that are given.> > So at times we must be practical.> > Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can ask > much about family background, even when u see a person u can say so > many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't judge > the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.> > So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our > judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u are > coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect antra > then its quite an

acheivement. > > In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra for > marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow the > antra and then pin point the event to 13 days. > > Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight delay or > even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.> > IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20% delay so > like that.> > Ju in libra might cause delay. > > Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite > there are long delays.> > Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.> > Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in nak of > sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given above.> > Hope these things help,> > Things will get clear when you take up

pratical charts with data that > u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to time > the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.> > Cheers !!!> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca> > > > , "nikhlesh mathur" > wrote:> >> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > Thanks.> > It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to affect > both B & A.> > I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks for > clarifying it for me.> > I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash & Ramesh > in mind.> > > > One question arises in my mind is: > > ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to one > aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to

any > other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What > factors are considered? > > > > Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any delay > due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1 zero > in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?> > > > I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.> > > > Thanks & Regards,> > Nikhlesh> > > > On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :> > >Dear Nikhlesh,> > >> > >> > >> > >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies for Ju > delay as> > >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju delay > house C is> > >not taken into consideration.> > >> > >> > >> > >I don't

have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not > effecting house A> > >hence, Ju delay is not there.> > >> > >> > >> > >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was one > zero in> > >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for delay.> > >> > >> > >> > >Hope this helps.> > >> > >> > >> > >Thanks & Regards,> > >> > >Manu> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > > On Behalf Of > nikhlesh> > >mathur> > >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM> > >To:

> > >Re: Re: Marriage date> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >28.01.2008> > >Dear Manu,> > > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.> > >> > >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell you.> > >> > >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in > ascendant with> > >6 points?> > >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when it > is seeing> > >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high > points for 7th> > > & 12th houses.> > >> > >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be delay by > Sa on> > >this account.> > >> >

>Regards,> > >Nikhlesh> > >> > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :> > > >Dear Nikhlesh,> > > >> > > >Good attempt.> > > >> > > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn. But, > due to Ju> > > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the chart > so it will> > > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage as > 21, we can> > > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.> > > >> > > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th > house so> > > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get > fixed.> > > >> > > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect can > also be> > >

>seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems to > match.> > > >> > > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to 1988 > for girl's> > > >father?> > > >> > > >Thanks & Regards,> > > >Manu> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <> > > >nikhleshmathur@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 27.01.2008> > > > >> > > > > Dear Group Members,> > > > >> > > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a chart > in his> > >forum> > > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study here, > the> > >marriage of> > >

> > a girl, the date of which is known.> > > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have also > put up my> > > > > questions pertaining to it.> > > > >> > > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007 and > who shall> > >be> > > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45 hrs, > 27.09.N.> > >78.00E.> > > > >> > > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the marriage of > this girl> > > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take place > in April> > >2008.> > > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in line > as per the> > > > > KAS theories.> > > > >> > > > > Analysis by

KAS:> > > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started thinking > of her> > > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not > earlier to this> > >age> > > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which she > is living> > >with> > > > > her family.> > > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was > running the> > >dasha> > > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).> > > > >> > > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring > marriage to her.> > > > >> > > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th house.> > > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.> > > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has

high points for 7th & 12th house but > Saturn is> > > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its sub > period.> > >(But> > > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which > somehow did not> > > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart. > Reasons mentioned> > >in> > > > > the last para of my analysis).> > > > >> > > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th > house, we> > > > > find that;> > > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.> > > > >> > > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A and > because of 1> > > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this chart.> > > >

>> > > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for > marriage. (My> > > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).> > > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it is > aspecting the> > > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is > sitting with> > >LOA,> > > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)> > > > >> > > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.> > > > >> > > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in SAV > did not> > >permit> > > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.> > > > >> > > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me from > Oct 2005 to> >

>Jan> > > > > 2008.> > > > >> > > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results of > 7th house.> > > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).> > > > >> > > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.> > > > > KAS theory states that;> > > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or > planets in 12th> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th > house matters.> > > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or > planets in 9th> > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or 4th > house> > >matters.> > > > >> > > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to

7th > house> > > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).> > > > >> > > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2 > points in the> > > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not give > the results> > >of> > > > > 7th house in its sub-period.> > > > >> > > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th > house. Here Me> > > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.> > > > >> > > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT TAKE > PLACE IN HE> > > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT 2007 > (it is> > > > > Arranged marriage for her).> > > > >> > > > > From Jan 2008 to

Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.> > > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has 3 > BAV points> > >for> > > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as SD to > Ketu.> > > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points for > 7th house but> > > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points > here). So it> > >can> > > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.> > > > >> > > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY > MARRIED IN THE AD> > > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has been > fixed in> > >April> > > > > 2008.> > > > >> > > > > MY QUERIES:> > > >

>> > > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before the > AD of Me> > > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind for > me. I knew> > >the> > > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation of > marriage> > >(Sept> > > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have been > that the girl> > > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan > 2008.> > > > >> > > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the chart > shows that> > > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to > marriage. This is> > > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with > Venus. Then> > >Saturn> > > > > is

in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The lord of > 4th house> > >and> > > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging to > Mars. So> > >there> > > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house and > 10th house (> > > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT > TECHNICALLY.> > > > >> > > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and > queries from all> > > > > members on the above analysis,> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > nikhlesh> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :> > > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,> > >

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Dear Harjeet,

 

Is there any difference if say for Aries lagna if Ma is in 1st house

and Jupiter is in 9th house v/s Mars being in 4th house and Ju in 8th

house.

 

Or

 

If Ma is in 2nd house and Ju is in 6th house.

 

Think over it and take help MF table, and I think you will find your

answer.

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

, " harjeet bakshi "

<harjeet_bakshi wrote:

>

> Dear Ashji,

>

> thanks for very good explanation.

>

> you said " powerful blessing " . are there any criteria for that.

> like non-involvement of 6th lord with lord of lagna and 9th house...

> and lord of lagna or 9th house not in rasi or navamsa of 6th lord.

> can you please elaborate on this.

>

> also if blessing has anything to do with quality of result ?

>

> thanks/regards

> harjeet

>

>

> , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nikhlesh,

> >

> > Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are

given

> > in lesson.

> >

> > Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for

> > example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional

> > Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.

> >

> > Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts

are

> > spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too

might

> > cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now

that

> > can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or

> > multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.

> >

> > Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far

from

> > sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and

its

> > bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at

the

> > same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are

> > destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that

also

> > from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse.

> >

> > Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause

delay.

> > 1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes

> > subject to some conditions might deny marriage.

> >

> > So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That

> > approximation is given in some mail.

> >

> > Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or

say

> > correction factor.

> >

> > In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then

> > generally in big cities people are now a days doing their

graduation

> > and getting a job before settling down in marriage.

> >

> > So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant

and

> > good dasha for education is running then a person might study

during

> > that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here

in

> > this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario

or

> > say " desh kaal paatra " correction factor.

> >

> > Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family

background

> > for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a

> > good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to

any

> > planet, but its man made.

> >

> > So your question is not very easy to reply.

> >

> > Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates

and

> > gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per

his

> > or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in

that

> > case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That

can be

> > found out easily based on the calculation that are given.

> >

> > So at times we must be practical.

> >

> > Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can

ask

> > much about family background, even when u see a person u can say

so

> > many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't

judge

> > the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.

> >

> > So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our

> > judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u

are

> > coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect

antra

> > then its quite an acheivement.

> >

> > In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra

for

> > marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow

the

> > antra and then pin point the event to 13 days.

> >

> > Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight

delay or

> > even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.

> >

> > IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20%

delay so

> > like that.

> >

> > Ju in libra might cause delay.

> >

> > Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite

> > there are long delays.

> >

> > Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.

> >

> > Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in

nak of

> > sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given

above.

> >

> > Hope these things help,

> >

> > Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data

that

> > u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to

time

> > the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.

> >

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> >

> >

> >

> > , " nikhlesh

mathur "

> > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Manu,

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to

affect

> > both B & A.

> > > I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks

for

> > clarifying it for me.

> > > I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash &

Ramesh

> > in mind.

> > >

> > > One question arises in my mind is:

> > > ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to

one

> > aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to any

> > other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What

> > factors are considered?

> > >

> > > Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any

delay

> > due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1

zero

> > in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?

> > >

> > > I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > Nikhlesh

> > >

> > > On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :

> > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies

for Ju

> > delay as

> > > >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju

delay

> > house C is

> > > >not taken into consideration.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >I don't have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not

> > effecting house A

> > > >hence, Ju delay is not there.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was

one

> > zero in

> > > >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for

delay.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Hope this helps.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > >Manu

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Behalf Of

> > nikhlesh

> > > >mathur

> > > >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM

> > > >

> > > >Re: Re: Marriage date

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >28.01.2008

> > > >Dear Manu,

> > > > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

> > > >

> > > >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell

you.

> > > >

> > > >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

> > ascendant with

> > > >6 points?

> > > >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when

it

> > is seeing

> > > >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high

> > points for 7th

> > > > & 12th houses.

> > > >

> > > >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be

delay by

> > Sa on

> > > >this account.

> > > >

> > > >Regards,

> > > >Nikhlesh

> > > >

> > > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > >

> > > > >Good attempt.

> > > > >

> > > > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn.

But,

> > due to Ju

> > > > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the

chart

> > so it will

> > > > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage

as

> > 21, we can

> > > > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> > > > >

> > > > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th

> > house so

> > > > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

> > fixed.

> > > > >

> > > > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect

can

> > also be

> > > > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems

to

> > match.

> > > > >

> > > > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to

1988

> > for girl's

> > > > >father?

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> > > > >nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 27.01.2008

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a

chart

> > in his

> > > >forum

> > > > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study

here,

> > the

> > > >marriage of

> > > > > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have

also

> > put up my

> > > > > > questions pertaining to it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007

and

> > who shall

> > > >be

> > > > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45

hrs,

> > 27.09.N.

> > > >78.00E.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the

marriage of

> > this girl

> > > > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take

place

> > in April

> > > >2008.

> > > > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in

line

> > as per the

> > > > > > KAS theories.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started

thinking

> > of her

> > > > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

> > earlier to this

> > > >age

> > > > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which

she

> > is living

> > > >with

> > > > > > her family.

> > > > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

> > running the

> > > >dasha

> > > > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

> > marriage to her.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

house.

> > > > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house

but

> > Saturn is

> > > > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its

sub

> > period.

> > > >(But

> > > > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

> > somehow did not

> > > > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart.

> > Reasons mentioned

> > > >in

> > > > > > the last para of my analysis).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and

E=12th

> > house, we

> > > > > > find that;

> > > > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A

and

> > because of 1

> > > > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this

chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

> > marriage. (My

> > > > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it

is

> > aspecting the

> > > > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

> > sitting with

> > > >LOA,

> > > > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in

SAV

> > did not

> > > >permit

> > > > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me

from

> > Oct 2005 to

> > > >Jan

> > > > > > 2008.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results

of

> > 7th house.

> > > > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > > > > KAS theory states that;

> > > > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

> > planets in 12th

> > > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

> > house matters.

> > > > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

> > planets in 9th

> > > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or

4th

> > house

> > > >matters.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to

7th

> > house

> > > > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

> > points in the

> > > > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not

give

> > the results

> > > >of

> > > > > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

> > house. Here Me

> > > > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT

TAKE

> > PLACE IN HE

> > > > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT

2007

> > (it is

> > > > > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has

3

> > BAV points

> > > >for

> > > > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as

SD to

> > Ketu.

> > > > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points

for

> > 7th house but

> > > > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

> > here). So it

> > > >can

> > > > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY

> > MARRIED IN THE AD

> > > > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has

been

> > fixed in

> > > >April

> > > > > > 2008.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MY QUERIES:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before

the

> > AD of Me

> > > > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind

for

> > me. I knew

> > > >the

> > > > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation

of

> > marriage

> > > >(Sept

> > > > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have

been

> > that the girl

> > > > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan

> > 2008.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the

chart

> > shows that

> > > > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to

> > marriage. This is

> > > > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

> > Venus. Then

> > > >Saturn

> > > > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The

lord of

> > 4th house

> > > >and

> > > > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging

to

> > Mars. So

> > > >there

> > > > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house

and

> > 10th house (

> > > > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

> > TECHNICALLY.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and

> > queries from all

> > > > > > members on the above analysis,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > nikhlesh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives

asc

> > 27 Ta 5.

> > > > > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra

navamsa.

> > > > > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the

antara

> > of Me.

> > > > > > > Please check it up.

> > > > > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring

the

> > chart of

> > > >known

> > > > > > event before the forum.

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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regards

harjeet

 

, " ashsam73 " <kas

wrote:

>

> Dear Harjeet,

>

> Is there any difference if say for Aries lagna if Ma is in 1st house

> and Jupiter is in 9th house v/s Mars being in 4th house and Ju in 8th

> house.

>

> Or

>

> If Ma is in 2nd house and Ju is in 6th house.

>

> Think over it and take help MF table, and I think you will find your

> answer.

>

> Cheers !!!

> Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> , " harjeet bakshi "

> <harjeet_bakshi@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ashji,

> >

> > thanks for very good explanation.

> >

> > you said " powerful blessing " . are there any criteria for that.

> > like non-involvement of 6th lord with lord of lagna and 9th house...

> > and lord of lagna or 9th house not in rasi or navamsa of 6th lord.

> > can you please elaborate on this.

> >

> > also if blessing has anything to do with quality of result ?

> >

> > thanks/regards

> > harjeet

> >

> >

> > , " ashsam73 " <kas@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Nikhlesh,

> > >

> > > Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are

> given

> > > in lesson.

> > >

> > > Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for

> > > example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional

> > > Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.

> > >

> > > Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts

> are

> > > spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too

> might

> > > cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now

> that

> > > can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or

> > > multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.

> > >

> > > Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far

> from

> > > sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and

> its

> > > bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at

> the

> > > same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are

> > > destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that

> also

> > > from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse.

> > >

> > > Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause

> delay.

> > > 1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes

> > > subject to some conditions might deny marriage.

> > >

> > > So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That

> > > approximation is given in some mail.

> > >

> > > Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or

> say

> > > correction factor.

> > >

> > > In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then

> > > generally in big cities people are now a days doing their

> graduation

> > > and getting a job before settling down in marriage.

> > >

> > > So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant

> and

> > > good dasha for education is running then a person might study

> during

> > > that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here

> in

> > > this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario

> or

> > > say " desh kaal paatra " correction factor.

> > >

> > > Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family

> background

> > > for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a

> > > good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to

> any

> > > planet, but its man made.

> > >

> > > So your question is not very easy to reply.

> > >

> > > Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates

> and

> > > gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per

> his

> > > or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in

> that

> > > case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That

> can be

> > > found out easily based on the calculation that are given.

> > >

> > > So at times we must be practical.

> > >

> > > Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can

> ask

> > > much about family background, even when u see a person u can say

> so

> > > many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't

> judge

> > > the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.

> > >

> > > So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our

> > > judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u

> are

> > > coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect

> antra

> > > then its quite an acheivement.

> > >

> > > In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra

> for

> > > marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow

> the

> > > antra and then pin point the event to 13 days.

> > >

> > > Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight

> delay or

> > > even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.

> > >

> > > IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20%

> delay so

> > > like that.

> > >

> > > Ju in libra might cause delay.

> > >

> > > Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite

> > > there are long delays.

> > >

> > > Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.

> > >

> > > Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in

> nak of

> > > sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given

> above.

> > >

> > > Hope these things help,

> > >

> > > Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data

> that

> > > u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to

> time

> > > the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.

> > >

> > > Cheers !!!

> > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " nikhlesh

> mathur "

> > > <nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manu,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > It is now clear that for causing delay Ju has to

> affect

> > > both B & A.

> > > > I earlier thought that it could be either of the two. Thanks

> for

> > > clarifying it for me.

> > > > I will re-analyze the chart keeping the inputs of you, Ash &

> Ramesh

> > > in mind.

> > > >

> > > > One question arises in my mind is:

> > > > ********** When a planet (say Ju itslef) causes delay due to

> one

> > > aspect ( say, being in Libra) but does not cause delay due to any

> > > other aspect.........then how the delay is to be evaluated? What

> > > factors are considered?

> > > >

> > > > Similarly for Saturn. For example if it does NOT cause any

> delay

> > > due to it but there is a delay due to some other aspect ( say 1

> zero

> > > in SAV......then how does one evaluate the delay?

> > > >

> > > > I am also trying to search an answer for it in the archieves.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > Nikhlesh

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 Manu V Batura wrote :

> > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Ash has explained that Sa delay part. Similar thing applies

> for Ju

> > > delay as

> > > > >well. Both house B and house A should be effected. For Ju

> delay

> > > house C is

> > > > >not taken into consideration.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >I don't have the chart in front of me, but here Ju is not

> > > effecting house A

> > > > >hence, Ju delay is not there.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >But, Ju being in libra will give delay. Also I think there was

> one

> > > zero in

> > > > >the chart. So, the latter two only are to be considered for

> delay.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Hope this helps.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > >Manu

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Behalf Of

> > > nikhlesh

> > > > >mathur

> > > > >Monday, January 28, 2008 1:06 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >Re: Re: Marriage date

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >28.01.2008

> > > > >Dear Manu,

> > > > > Thanks for your inputs and motivating words.

> > > > >

> > > > >No I do not about this family. So I will not be able to tell

> you.

> > > > >

> > > > >I wish to know why there is no delay of Jupiter when it is in

> > > ascendant with

> > > > >6 points?

> > > > >Also why in your opinion there is no delay due to Saturn when

> it

> > > is seeing

> > > > >house A (for B=7). Is it because Sa is also LOD and has high

> > > points for 7th

> > > > > & 12th houses.

> > > > >

> > > > >In navansh Sa is seeing house C. So again there should be

> delay by

> > > Sa on

> > > > >this account.

> > > > >

> > > > >Regards,

> > > > >Nikhlesh

> > > > >

> > > > >On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 Manu Batura wrote :

> > > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Good attempt.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Please note that there is no delay due to Jupiter/Saturn.

> But,

> > > due to Ju

> > > > > >being in libra there is delay and there is one zero in the

> chart

> > > so it will

> > > > > >increase the delay a bit. Considering normal age of marriage

> as

> > > 21, we can

> > > > > >say delay period will be till 24.5 years of age.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Me is LoD but with 12 points and it is low for 5th and 12th

> > > house so

> > > > > >marriage did not take place in me antra. Although it did get

> > > fixed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Next is ke antra, ke is like ju and ve. Some 6th lord effect

> can

> > > also be

> > > > > >seen since both LoA and LoB are with 6th lord. So, ke seems

> to

> > > match.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Can you please let us know how was the period from 1985 to

> 1988

> > > for girl's

> > > > > >father?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > >Manu

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >On 27 Jan 2008 12:01:25 -0000, nikhlesh mathur <

> > > > > >nikhleshmathur@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 27.01.2008

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Group Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I agree with Ramesh that bringing a

> chart

> > > in his

> > > > >forum

> > > > > > > with known event would be better. So I have case study

> here,

> > > the

> > > > >marriage of

> > > > > > > a girl, the date of which is known.

> > > > > > > I have tried to derive it using KAS theories and have

> also

> > > put up my

> > > > > > > questions pertaining to it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Case study: A girl whose marriage was fixed in Sept 2007

> and

> > > who shall

> > > > >be

> > > > > > > married in April 2008. Birth details 06.08.1982, 11:45

> hrs,

> > > 27.09.N.

> > > > >78.00E.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Objective of the case study: It is known that the

> marriage of

> > > this girl

> > > > > > > has been fixed and that the actual marriage will take

> place

> > > in April

> > > > >2008.

> > > > > > > To derive the marriage date and to find out if it is in

> line

> > > as per the

> > > > > > > KAS theories.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Analysis by KAS:

> > > > > > > Let us first say that parents of this girl started

> thinking

> > > of her

> > > > > > > marriage only when she completed 21 years of age and not

> > > earlier to this

> > > > >age

> > > > > > > as per the 'Desh', 'Kaal' and 'Paristhithi' under which

> she

> > > is living

> > > > >with

> > > > > > > her family.

> > > > > > > When she attained 21 years of age ie in Aug 2003 she was

> > > running the

> > > > >dasha

> > > > > > > combine of Jupiter-Saturn ( Apl 2003 to Oct 2005).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So let us first find out why AD of Saturn did not bring

> > > marriage to her.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For marriage, B=7 and hence A=2, C=11, D=4 and E=12th

> house.

> > > > > > > There is 1 zero in the SAV chart.

> > > > > > > Sa is also LOD, Sa has high points for 7th & 12th house

> but

> > > Saturn is

> > > > > > > seeing house A. So Sa will not facilitate marriage in its

> sub

> > > period.

> > > > >(But

> > > > > > > it must have brought her quite nearer to marriage, which

> > > somehow did not

> > > > > > > take place as there is breakage observed in her chart.

> > > Reasons mentioned

> > > > >in

> > > > > > > the last para of my analysis).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When we see Navansh chart for B=7, A=2, C=11, D=4 and

> E=12th

> > > house, we

> > > > > > > find that;

> > > > > > > Sa is seeing house C and Sa is lord of A.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Apart from the delay caused due to Sa aspecting house A

> and

> > > because of 1

> > > > > > > zero in the SAV, there is also Jupiter delay in this

> chart.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jupiter is in Libra, which is not considered good for

> > > marriage. (My

> > > > > > > question here: Does Ju in Libra also delays marriage?).

> > > > > > > Ju has 6 BAV points in Libra in ascendant. Therefore it

> is

> > > aspecting the

> > > > > > > house B (7th house) malefically (My question here: Ju is

> > > sitting with

> > > > >LOA,

> > > > > > > does this also cause a Jupiter delay?)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Malefic aspect of Ju on house B certainly caused delay.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The delay by Sa, delay by Ju and delay due to 1 zero in

> SAV

> > > did not

> > > > >permit

> > > > > > > marriage in the sub-period of AD.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now let us come to her next sub-period which is of Me

> from

> > > Oct 2005 to

> > > > >Jan

> > > > > > > 2008.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Me is LoE when B=7. So it will be eager to give results

> of

> > > 7th house.

> > > > > > > Me has 12 points for 7th house (borderline case).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > For this native Me is the lord of 9th house & 12th house.

> > > > > > > KAS theory states that;

> > > > > > > a) In the sub-period of the lord of the 12th house or

> > > planets in 12th

> > > > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 3rd and/or 7th

> > > house matters.

> > > > > > > b) In the sub-period of the lord of the 9th house or

> > > planets in 9th

> > > > > > > house the results will be linked up to the 12th and/or

> 4th

> > > house

> > > > >matters.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So in the sub period of Me the results will be linked to

> 7th

> > > house

> > > > > > > (marriage) and 12th house (bed comforts).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturn is also placed in the 12th house but it has only 2

> > > points in the

> > > > > > > 12th house (less than 4 min. required). So Sa did not

> give

> > > the results

> > > > >of

> > > > > > > 7th house in its sub-period.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But Me should give though its points are just 12 for 7th

> > > house. Here Me

> > > > > > > has less than 12 points for 12 house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > SO IS THIS THE REASON THAT THE MARRIAGE ACTUALY DID NOT

> TAKE

> > > PLACE IN HE

> > > > > > > SUB-PERIOD OF MERCURY? THE GIRL GOT JUST ENGAGED IN SEPT

> 2007

> > > (it is

> > > > > > > Arranged marriage for her).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From Jan 2008 to Dec 2008 the sub-period is of Ketu.

> > > > > > > Ju and Venus are SD to Ketu. Ve has 5 BAV points & Ju has

> 3

> > > BAV points

> > > > >for

> > > > > > > the 3rd house where Ketu is situated. So Ve will act as

> SD to

> > > Ketu.

> > > > > > > Ve is NK for 7th & 12 houses. Though Ve has low points

> for

> > > 7th house but

> > > > > > > it is a strong significator for the 12th house (20 points

> > > here). So it

> > > > >can

> > > > > > > stand-in for Ketu as it has high 20 points.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > IT COULD BE THIS REASON THAT THE GIRL WILL BE ACTUALLY

> > > MARRIED IN THE AD

> > > > > > > OF KETU (Jan 2008 to Dec 2008). The marriage date has

> been

> > > fixed in

> > > > >April

> > > > > > > 2008.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > MY QUERIES:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. Why the marriage actually did not took place before

> the

> > > AD of Me

> > > > > > > completed in Jan 2008? This chart is not totally blind

> for

> > > me. I knew

> > > > >the

> > > > > > > date of marriage (Apl 08) as well as the date of fixation

> of

> > > marriage

> > > > >(Sept

> > > > > > > 07). Had it been a blind chart the verdict would have

> been

> > > that the girl

> > > > > > > would get married before AD of Me completed ie before Jan

> > > 2008.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Though I do not know the girl or her family, the

> chart

> > > shows that

> > > > > > > the girl had an affair earlier which did not lead to

> > > marriage. This is

> > > > > > > indicated by Rahu placed in the 9th house & sitting with

> > > Venus. Then

> > > > >Saturn

> > > > > > > is in the 12 house and this Saturn aspects Venus. The

> lord of

> > > 4th house

> > > > >and

> > > > > > > the lord of 10th house both are in Nakshatra's belonging

> to

> > > Mars. So

> > > > >there

> > > > > > > is a linkage between the lord of 2nd house, 4th house

> and

> > > 10th house (

> > > > > > > Chapter 14). I WISH TO KNOW IF THIS ANALYSIS IS CORRECT

> > > TECHNICALLY.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Anticipating corrections from senior group members and

> > > queries from all

> > > > > > > members on the above analysis,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > nikhlesh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 ramesh mishra wrote :

> > > > > > > >Dear Nikhlesh,

> > > > > > > > I have casted the chart using KAS2006V3.2.1 who gives

> asc

> > > 27 Ta 5.

> > > > > > > > Me is in the arc of 10Cn11so it will come in libra

> navamsa.

> > > > > > > > You probabky might have used other programe.

> > > > > > > > Being in the navamsa of 6th lord I eliminated the

> antara

> > > of Me.

> > > > > > > > Please check it up.

> > > > > > > > It would be better for learning purpose if you bring

> the

> > > chart of

> > > > >known

> > > > > > > event before the forum.

> > > > > > > > Thanks and regards.

> > > > > > > > Ramesh Mishra

> > > > > > >

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02.02.2008

Dear Ash,

 

Thanks for the excellent explanation. Needless to say one has to get into the skin of the situations depicted by the planetary combinations and then decide from an overall persepctive.

 

With the help of explanations of yours and experienced members, I am trying to formulate a table where-in which I am trying to tabulate the entire set of combinations that are to be observed keenly for forecasting marriage date and then I will assign suitable percentage plus or minus to each of them.

 

Once I do this I will put the chart for the group members for their inputs.

 

Thanks once again.

Regards,

Nikhlesh

 

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 ashsam73 wrote :

>Dear Nikhlesh,

>

>Shani and Guru are planets that can cause delay. The laws are given

>in lesson.

>

>Now, you are correct, other factors can also cause delay, say for

>example, as per KAS, we start with House A and that is Functional

>Karak and then Venus is Natural Karak.

>

>Now, its said that if Venus is spoilt then marriage and comforts are

>spoiled. So if Venus or NK or 2nd house are spoilt that too might

>cause delay or might disturb the House B i.e. 7th house. Now that

>can result in a myraid of things such as multiple marriage, or

>multiple relations, or in the extreme case denial of marriage.

>

>Venus is a very sensitive planet. If its too close or too far from

>sun (3deg20 or 43deg20), so such a venus might get spoilt, and its

>bad properties are enhanced if Shani aspects such a Venus and at the

>same time if Sa aspects luminimary then all its properties are

>destroyed. In such a case, if say lagna and 7th and see that also

> from sun and mo are in 6:8 then there migth be divorse.

>

>Now, if there are 0 points in SAV then taht also might cause delay.

>1 zero means slight delay, 2 zeroes means more delay and 3 zeroes

>subject to some conditions might deny marriage.

>

>So here u can use some approximation of 10% delay for zero. That

>approximation is given in some mail.

>

>Now, also we must keep in mind the desh, kaal paatra principle or say

>correction factor.

>

>In todays day and age, we can say that if there is no delay then

>generally in big cities people are now a days doing their graduation

>and getting a job before settling down in marriage.

>

>So here, if there is no delay and say, if a person is brilliant and

>good dasha for education is running then a person might study during

>that time so a person graduates say around 22-23 or so, so here in

>this point in time i.s. 2008 in India that might be the scenario or

>say " desh kaal paatra " correction factor.

>

>Now, in such a case, we must understand the native, family background

>for example if a family is keen on giving their daughter or son a

>good education, then in such case, the delay might not be due to any

>planet, but its man made.

>

>So your question is not very easy to reply.

>

>Yes, say, now after 23 years of age or say 22 a person graudates and

>gets a job and is ready for marriage then after that say as per his

>or her chart there is delay due to Sa, Ju and zeroes, then in that

>case, there might be more delay for this or that reason. That can be

>found out easily based on the calculation that are given.

>

>So at times we must be practical.

>

>Now, on lists, when we get a chart, we do not know nor can ask

>much about family background, even when u see a person u can say so

>many things, but here behind the email that we get, we can't judge

>the other factors that we can when a person comes to us in person.

>

>So, here if we are using the laws, then we must also apply our

>judgement based on questions or rely on points to judge. If u are

>coming close to the answer or are able to select the perfect antra

>then its quite an acheivement.

>

>In some mail, Krushnaji had given, that to find the proper antra for

>marriage means 75-80% of the timing is done, next is to narrow the

>antra and then pin point the event to 13 days.

>

>Now, you have asked about 1 zero, so that might cause slight delay or

>even delay in antra as well i.e. in sector.

>

>IF there is 2 zeroes then u can approximately take about 20% delay so

>like that.

>

>Ju in libra might cause delay.

>

>Blessings if powerful in a chart, might remove all delays despite

>there are long delays.

>

>Antra itself if it does not have power in WS might cause delay.

>

>Venus spoilt might cause delay, Ve in krittika is worst, ve in nak of

>sun is also spoilt, too close to sun or too far from it given above.

>

>Hope these things help,

>

>Things will get clear when you take up pratical charts with data that

>u are sure of and u know the event. Then u can practice how to time

>the event. The more charts u solve the easier things will get.

>

>Cheers !!!

>Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

[Guest guest]

Dear

Hussein ji,

 

Welcome

back.

 

Why

do you want us to tell the marriage date?

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Wednesday July 23, 2008 6:55

AM

To:

 

Subject:

marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash, Manu and

Members

How are you all

members? After 2-3 months ,now I have free time.

This is the

birth date of a native. Please tell me the correct date for her marriage:

Female, born on

2 May 1979 at 00-30 hours.(12;30am).Hyderabad, India

Long: 78e28

Lat: 17n23

I¢m waiting for

your answer.

Thank you

Hussein Abdi

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Dear AshI want to see your answer and then compare it with my answer for better learning.I'm waiting your good answer to my question.Thanks and best wishesHussein Abdi--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:Ash's Corner <kasRE: marriage date Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:11 PM

 

 

 

Dear

Hussein ji, Welcome

back. Why

do you want us to tell the marriage date?

Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

[astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Wednesday July 23, 2008 6:55

AM

To:

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com

Subject:

[astrologyandtiming events] marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash, Manu and

Members How are you all

members? After 2-3 months ,now I have free time. This is the

birth date of a native. Please tell me the correct date for her marriage: Female, born on

2 May 1979 at 00-30 hours.(12;30am) .Hyderabad, India Long: 78e28 Lat: 17n23 I¢m waiting for

your answer. Thank you Hussein Abdi

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear

Hussein ji,

 

Please

make an attempt using KAS and verify the answer.  The lessons are there, the KAS program is

there, and the methodology is there.

 

If

something is not matching, then make sure if the birth time is correct.

 

If

you want to study, the approach then u can study various blind charts solved in

the past. 

 

So

please make an attempt using KAS, and see if things are matching if not, I will

get involved so that one gets to learn KAS.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:23

AM

To:

 

RE:

marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Dear

Ash

I want to see your answer and then compare it with my answer for better

learning.I'm waiting your good answer to my question.

Thanks and best wishes

Hussein Abdi

 

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ash's Corner

<kas

wrote:

Ash's Corner <kas

RE: marriage date

 

Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:11 PM

 

 

 

Dear Hussein ji,

 

Welcome back.

 

Why do you want us to tell the marriage date?

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

 

 

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@

. com] On Behalf Of hossien

abdee

Wednesday July 23, 2008

6:55 AM

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

[astrologyandtiming

events] marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi

Ash, Manu and Members

How

are you all members? After 2-3 months ,now I have free time.

This

is the birth date of a native. Please tell me the correct date for her

marriage:

Female,

born on 2 May 1979 at 00-30 hours.(12;30am) .Hyderabad, India

Long:

78e28

Lat:

17n23

I¢m

waiting for your answer.

Thank

you

Hussein

Abdi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear

Hussein ji and Group,

 

When

someone puts a chart on this group, what is the expectation?

 

IS

the person testing the knowledge of the Jyotish? Does he really want to learn?  Is he making a sincere attempt and is stuck

somewhere genuinely and is putting forth is query so that he or she can

understand the finer nuances of the working of KAS or any system?  Or does someone want a free reading? Or one

does not value the time nor the effort of an astrologer and has found

groups or msn groups or google groups and is just

passing his or her chart around to get some opinion irrespective of who is

doing the reading, its sort of a casual approach or one is not sincere enough?  Lastly, someone has a Jyotish practice and

puts a chart on list and then makes senior Jyotish persons respond to the query

and then explain the same to their client ... and in plain words befooling.

 

 

Now,

take this case that Hussein ji has given.  No events are given in this chart?  So fundamental question is, how accurate has

the time been recorded?  What is the

source.

 

In

this case, the timing of marriage has been asked, an no attempt has been made

to solve this on own accord.  Now if this

matched with the procedures of KAS whos knowledge has

been gracefully shared by Guruji and Donna ji who has

taken so much of effort to make nice lessons of it and has made it free of cost

to everyone so that this very precious system which deals with timing of events

is opened up in front of the world which was kept in the parampara

of Guruji’s Guru Sri Brij Gopal Shastriji.

 

Again

going back to the chart given, Saturn is in the 5th house, and time

record is 0:30 AM, now is it possible for 4 min differences?  What if the day was not written correctly and

it’s a common mistake one does especially on date change cases dealing

with near midnight birth?  What is the

source of the time.

 

Saturn

is in 5th house in Navamsa with 0:30 birth time and that shows full

delay because that is the law of KAS, now full delay is again dependent on the

custom and culture of the native.  In

north America if one refers to delay then for a girl then it might be after 31

years or age as per statistics or now a days its found that in general girls

are marrying around such age in todays day and age

and in USA, in Canada it’s about the same or it might be a bit earlier or

later but not by too much.

 

The

same girl if he or she is in say a very conservative family where marriage is

performed early and even even 24 years might be

considered extremely delayed then how to judge that, such information is not

given at all.

 

Yes,

from the time given, and that too, keeping all things constant the marriage is

delayed as per the laws of KAS.  

 

Now

let us take another scenario, and this is because no data is given regarding

the source.  Generally watches might be 5

mins off and that is routinely done in say Mumbai especially those who travel

by local trains just to make sure they are on time otherwise they will miss

their buss.

 

Now,

in this case, 4 mins will change the Navamsa. 

 

 

Suddenly

from a late marriage due to Saturn now everything changes, as now Saturn is in

the 6th house in Navamsa and at the same time it is not aspecting Mo

who is LoB or House B.  So here there is now no delay.

 

How

to then time marriage ?  how to make sure

is there 4 mins difference or not?

 

Now

here we get stuck up.  Yes if say Career

is given, then we get some bench mark to see which matches or is in line, or

say other events, then we can sort of time things.  The nature of the person, the inclination,

health.

 

Lagna

is at 37 points so the native is very adamant and egotistical and with Sa in 5th

house in navamsa might delay things and then again Ma and Ve

are together with 6th lord affecting Natural Karak. 

 

9th

house has 0 power due to Shani, and if the navamsa is as given with time of birth

then MA in 11th house and Rahu is aspecting 11th

house.  So again showing problems with

child birth or even miscarriage. 

 

If

Navamsa changes and there is early marriage then not much problems....

 

How

to confirm this............

 

 

I

hope with this mail, one understands on how involved it is to first make sure

that the birth time is correct, then and only then must a KAS astrologer go

ahead and venture into Timing of Event.

 

Yes,

that is possible as our laws are clear cut and defined.  This helps give confidence and with the WS

gives us guidance w.r.t power of planet and makes it easy to unfold the chart.

 

That

being said, its very important to understand all that goes in predicting using

KAS as per the teachings and guidance of Guruji.

 

 

Thanks

for listening,

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Ash's Corner

Wednesday July 23, 2008

10:49 AM

 

RE:

marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Hussein ji,

 

Please make an attempt using KAS and verify the answer. The

lessons are there, the KAS program is there, and the methodology is there.

 

If something is not matching, then make sure if the birth time is

correct.

 

If you want to study, the approach then u can study various blind

charts solved in the past.

 

So please make an attempt using KAS, and see if things are matching

if not, I will get involved so that one gets to learn KAS.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of hossien abdee

Wednesday July 23, 2008 9:23

AM

 

RE:

marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Dear Ash

I want to see your answer and then compare it with my answer for better

learning.I'm waiting your good answer to my question.

Thanks and best wishes

Hussein Abdi

 

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ash's Corner

<kas

wrote:

Ash's

Corner <kas

RE: marriage date

 

Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:11 PM

 

 

 

Dear Hussein ji,

 

Welcome back.

 

Why do you want us to tell the marriage date?

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.

ca

 

 

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents@

. com] On Behalf Of hossien

abdee

Wednesday July 23, 2008

6:55 AM

astrologyandtiminge

vents@ s.com

[astrologyandtiming

events] marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi

Ash, Manu and Members

How

are you all members? After 2-3 months ,now I have free time.

This

is the birth date of a native. Please tell me the correct date for her

marriage:

Female,

born on 2 May 1979 at 00-30 hours.(12;30am) .Hyderabad, India

Long:

78e28

Lat:

17n23

I¢m

waiting for your answer.

Thank

you

Hussein

Abdi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ash,

 

We value the time you spent on writing and

sharing your knowledge on this query.

 

Hope everybody will undretand this thourougly.

 

Regards

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ash's Corner <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner <kasRE: marriage date Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:42 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Hussein ji and Group,

 

When someone puts a chart on this group, what is the expectation?

 

IS the person testing the knowledge of the Jyotish? Does he really want to learn? Is he making a sincere attempt and is stuck somewhere genuinely and is putting forth is query so that he or she can understand the finer nuances of the working of KAS or any system? Or does someone want a free reading? Or one does not value the time nor the effort of an astrologer and has found or msn groups or google groups and is just passing his or her chart around to get some opinion irrespective of who is doing the reading, its sort of a casual approach or one is not sincere enough? Lastly, someone has a Jyotish practice and puts a chart on list and then makes senior Jyotish persons respond to the query and then explain the same to their client ... and in plain words

befooling.

 

 

Now, take this case that Hussein ji has given. No events are given in this chart? So fundamental question is, how accurate has the time been recorded? What is the source.

 

In this case, the timing of marriage has been asked, an no attempt has been made to solve this on own accord. Now if this matched with the procedures of KAS whos knowledge has been gracefully shared by Guruji and Donna ji who has taken so much of effort to make nice lessons of it and has made it free of cost to everyone so that this very precious system which deals with timing of events is opened up in front of the world which was kept in the parampara of Guruji¢s Guru Sri Brij Gopal Shastriji.

 

Again going back to the chart given, Saturn is in the 5th house, and time record is 0:30 AM, now is it possible for 4 min differences? What if the day was not written correctly and it¢s a common mistake one does especially on date change cases dealing with near midnight birth? What is the source of the time.

 

Saturn is in 5th house in Navamsa with 0:30 birth time and that shows full delay because that is the law of KAS, now full delay is again dependent on the custom and culture of the native. In north America if one refers to delay then for a girl then it might be after 31 years or age as per statistics or now a days its found that in general girls are marrying around such age in todays day and age and in USA, in Canada it¢s about the same or it might be a bit earlier or later but not by too much.

 

The same girl if he or she is in say a very conservative family where marriage is performed early and even even 24 years might be considered extremely delayed then how to judge that, such information is not given at all.

 

Yes, from the time given, and that too, keeping all things constant the marriage is delayed as per the laws of KAS.

 

Now let us take another scenario, and this is because no data is given regarding the source. Generally watches might be 5 mins off and that is routinely done in say Mumbai especially those who travel by local trains just to make sure they are on time otherwise they will miss their buss.

 

Now, in this case, 4 mins will change the Navamsa.

 

Suddenly from a late marriage due to Saturn now everything changes, as now Saturn is in the 6th house in Navamsa and at the same time it is not aspecting Mo who is LoB or House B. So here there is now no delay.

 

How to then time marriage ? how to make sure is there 4 mins difference or not?

 

Now here we get stuck up. Yes if say Career is given, then we get some bench mark to see which matches or is in line, or say other events, then we can sort of time things. The nature of the person, the inclination, health.

 

Lagna is at 37 points so the native is very adamant and egotistical and with Sa in 5th house in navamsa might delay things and then again Ma and Ve are together with 6th lord affecting Natural Karak.

 

9th house has 0 power due to Shani, and if the navamsa is as given with time of birth then MA in 11th house and Rahu is aspecting 11th house. So again showing problems with child birth or even miscarriage.

 

If Navamsa changes and there is early marriage then not much problems....

 

How to confirm this........ ....

 

 

I hope with this mail, one understands on how involved it is to first make sure that the birth time is correct, then and only then must a KAS astrologer go ahead and venture into Timing of Event.

 

Yes, that is possible as our laws are clear cut and defined. This helps give confidence and with the WS gives us guidance w.r.t power of planet and makes it easy to unfold the chart.

 

That being said, its very important to understand all that goes in predicting using KAS as per the teachings and guidance of Guruji.

 

 

Thanks for listening,

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) caWednesday July 23, 2008 10:49 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Hussein ji,

 

Please make an attempt using KAS and verify the answer. The lessons are there, the KAS program is there, and the methodology is there.

 

If something is not matching, then make sure if the birth time is correct.

 

If you want to study, the approach then u can study various blind charts solved in the past.

 

So please make an attempt using KAS, and see if things are matching if not, I will get involved so that one gets to learn KAS.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of hossien abdeeWednesday July 23, 2008 9:23 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comRE: [astrologyandtiming events] marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Dear AshI want to see your answer and then compare it with my answer for better learning.I'm waiting your good answer to my question.Thanks and best wishesHussein Abdi--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kas wrote:

Ash's Corner (AT) ashtro (DOT) ca <kasRE: [astrologyandtiming events] marriage dateastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.comWednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:11 PM

 

 

 

Dear Hussein ji,

 

Welcome back.

 

Why do you want us to tell the marriage date?

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

 

 

 

astrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com [astrologyan dtimingevents] On Behalf Of hossien abdeeWednesday July 23, 2008 6:55 AMastrologyandtiminge vents@ s.com[astrologyandtiming events] marriage date

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Ash, Manu and Members

How are you all members? After 2-3 months ,now I have free time.

This is the birth date of a native. Please tell me the correct date for her marriage:

Female, born on 2 May 1979 at 00-30 hours.(12;30am) .Hyderabad, India

Long: 78e28

Lat: 17n23

I¢m waiting for your answer.

Thank you

Hussein Abdi

 

 

[Guest guest]

vedic astrology , " namratha23 " <23namratha

wrote:

>

> female

>

> D0b-11-10-1985

>

> TOB-3;55PM

>

> POB-BANGALORE

>

> HOW IS MARRIED LIFE

>

[Guest guest]

vedic astrology , " namratha23 " <23namratha

wrote:

>

> female

>

> D0b-11-10-1985

>

> TOB-3;55PM

>

> POB-BANGALORE

>

> HOW IS MARRIED LIFE

>

iam an unmarried man.so i dont know about married life.as me iam not

interested in married life.