Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

[Guest guest]

dear all

 

i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i bought it

like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

 

however i have just been researching and come across that you should not buy a

yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

 

my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

 

is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it anything to worry

about ?

 

 

regards

 

naina

[Guest guest]

Naina_jee,

 

You should really involve your jyotish counseller who selected the remedy for

you otherwise you may end up against the Berlin Wall of Munday munday mati

bhinna!

 

RR_,

 

, " naina " <nira_1 wrote:

>

> dear all

>

> i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i bought it

like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

>

> however i have just been researching and come across that you should not buy a

yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

>

> my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

>

> is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it anything to

worry about ?

>

>

> regards

>

> naina

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Sorry I do not know what that is suposed to mean (ur last comment) ? Well as I

read it online and not from my astrologer I posted this question on here.

 

 

Naina

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Naina_jee,

>

> You should really involve your jyotish counseller who selected the remedy for

you otherwise you may end up against the Berlin Wall of Munday munday mati

bhinna!

>

> RR_,

>

> , " naina " <nira_1@> wrote:

> >

> > dear all

> >

> > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i bought

it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> >

> > however i have just been researching and come across that you should not buy

a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> >

> > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

> >

> > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it anything to

worry about ?

> >

> >

> > regards

> >

> > naina

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Naina,

 

Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I have not

seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the source.

 

Take care,

Chandrashekhar

 

On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

>

> dear all

>

> i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

> bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

>

> however i have just been researching and come across that you should

> not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

>

> my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

>

> is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> anything to worry about ?

>

> regards

>

> naina

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze, if you ask

me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

 

RR_,

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Naina,

>

> Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I have not

> seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

> modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the source.

>

> Take care,

> Chandrashekhar

>

> On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> >

> > dear all

> >

> > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

> > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> >

> > however i have just been researching and come across that you should

> > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> >

> > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

> >

> > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > anything to worry about ?

> >

> > regards

> >

> > naina

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to be as

no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

culture, who has the time?

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze,

> if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

>

> RR_,

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Naina,

> >

> > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I have not

> > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

> > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the

> source.

> >

> > Take care,

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > >

> > > dear all

> > >

> > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

> > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > >

> > > however i have just been researching and come across that you should

> > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > >

> > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

> > >

> > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > anything to worry about ?

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > naina

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is not as easy as

getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by mail-order or from a shop

and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which most people use those these

days and then wonder why they are not becoming rich overnight or getting married

within a week!

 

There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone though

expensive represents an investment and generally does not decline in market

value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

 

RR

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to be as

> no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> culture, who has the time?

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze,

> > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Naina,

> > >

> > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I have not

> > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

> > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the

> > source.

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear all

> > > >

> > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

> > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > >

> > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you should

> > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > >

> > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

> > > >

> > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > naina

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

Remedies in any form were not well brought out in Classics.Gems that way no

exception.Then gems have an added lure to wear and also fits into fast food

culture.Might merit in some case and helps to over come problems and possibly

may also land into difficult situation if proper understanding of the precious

stones is not made.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

 

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

 

Friday, February 12, 2010, 1:02 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

 

 

It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to be as

 

no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

 

shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

 

culture, who has the time?

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

 

>

 

> The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze,

 

> if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

 

>

 

> RR_,

 

>

 

>

 

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

 

> <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Naina,

 

> >

 

> > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I have not

 

> > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

 

> > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the

 

> source.

 

> >

 

> > Take care,

 

> > Chandrashekhar

 

> >

 

> > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > dear all

 

> > >

 

> > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

 

> > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

 

> > >

 

> > > however i have just been researching and come across that you should

 

> > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

 

> > >

 

> > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

 

> > >

 

> > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

 

> > > anything to worry about ?

 

> > >

 

> > > regards

 

> > >

 

> > > naina

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini,

 

Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription for

their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

bias do they not?

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar

 

On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar,

>

> Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is not as

> easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by mail-order

> or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which most

> people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

> rich overnight or getting married within a week!

>

> There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

> though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

>

> RR

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> be as

> > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> > culture, who has the time?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze,

> > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Naina,

> > > >

> > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> have not

> > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

> > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the

> > > source.

> > > >

> > > > Take care,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear all

> > > > >

> > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

> > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > >

> > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

> should

> > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > >

> > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> rattis.

> > > > >

> > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > naina

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far back as I

remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the units have changed over

the years).

 

RR_,

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini,

>

> Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription for

> their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> bias do they not?

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar

>

> On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is not as

> > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by mail-order

> > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which most

> > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

> > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> >

> > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

> > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > >

> > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > be as

> > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> > > culture, who has the time?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze,

> > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > have not

> > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

> > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the

> > > > source.

> > > > >

> > > > > Take care,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear all

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

> > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > >

> > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

> > should

> > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > rattis.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > naina

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Agreed! And particularly with two gemstones that I have heard accounts of:

Diamonds and Neelam!

 

That said, I will utilize this post to comment on what Chandrashekhar mentioned

in his earlier about " arcane " procedures apropos the use of gemstones -- pooja,

yantra, praan pratishthaa, other energy treatments etc :-)

 

While essentially agreeing with him, I submit here to you and others reading

this thread and response: Isn't the use of gemstones itself a rather arcane and

mystical proposition? I mean it is not even a local cream or ointment or PATCH

that we are using or recommending that will get absorbed in the body and produce

its salutary effects!

 

Unless all we are trying is to remove a corn or callosity! ;-)

 

As soon as we enter the realm of astrology or mysticism, we all must be aware of

an engineering/scientific term! TOLERANCE! Or PLAY!!

 

When a machine is designed, there is a narrow range of possibilities for each

part, even precision parts! The engineering-tolerance define the boundaries of

variability or acceptance that would work and not produce MAL FUNCTION!

 

In astrology, that plays an important role! How much stretching of worldly

reality would we accept?

 

The scientist out there thinks all astrologers are crazy because they believe

that planets out there somehow dictate or even indicate our lives! We

astrologers think differently!

 

The astrologers in here think that the remedy-wallahs amongst us are a bit

loopey because they think that feeding cows for 31 days would change our fates

or wearing a gomedhak will fix Swarbhanu's head-end! Other astrologers express

displeasure and disagree!

 

And the circle of tolerance and acceptance goes wider and wider, just like the

planetary orbits around the sun! It gets more and more nebulous as we move

beyond Saturn and on to Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Planet X, other galexies, etc!

 

The sun's rays reach far and deep! Just like we can see stars distant (all

suns!) I am sure our SUN is also visible from other planets in other solar

systems, even though it is but a yellow dwarf and a minor star in the cosmos.

 

However, visibility must not be confused with effect in the human experience!

 

Sorry for having spoken too much already!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> Sir,

> Remedies in any form were not well brought out in Classics.Gems that way no

exception.Then gems have an added lure to wear and also fits into fast food

culture.Might merit in some case and helps to over come problems and possibly

may also land into difficult situation if proper understanding of the precious

stones is not made.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

>

> Friday, February 12, 2010, 1:02 PM

>

 

>

>

>

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

>

>

> It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to be as

>

> no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

>

> shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

>

> culture, who has the time?

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

> On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> >

>

> > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new craze,

>

> > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

>

> >

>

> > RR_,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

>

> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Naina,

>

> > >

>

> > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I have not

>

> > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must be some

>

> > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to know the

>

> > source.

>

> > >

>

> > > Take care,

>

> > > Chandrashekhar

>

> > >

>

> > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > dear all

>

> > > >

>

> > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything before i

>

> > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

>

> > > >

>

> > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you should

>

> > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32 rattis.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

>

> > > > anything to worry about ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > regards

>

> > > >

>

> > > > naina

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

not find any support for in the ancient texts.

 

Chandrashekhar

 

 

On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar,

>

> I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> units have changed over the years).

>

> RR_,

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini,

> >

> > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> for

> > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > bias do they not?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> not as

> > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> mail-order

> > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> most

> > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

> > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > >

> > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

> > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > >

> > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > be as

> > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> craze,

> > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > have not

> > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> be some

> > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> know the

> > > > > source.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> before i

> > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

> > > should

> > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > rattis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini ji & others,

 

Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years. Imformation

regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals like Narada Purana etc.

However, the size etc were provided for Kings and not for ordinary individuals.

The Kings are natural holders of raja yogas, which means they have the natural

strength to withstand negative influences also.

However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

 

Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a) wearing it

(b) give away as daana.

In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

(a) keep with you what is good

(b) do away with what is giving trouble.

 

a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

 

What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

 

Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies & particularly

regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to planets that are causing harm

should be given away as daana. Instead we find they are advised to be worn.

After all who would like to give away a costly gem?

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

 

Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

 

 

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

not find any support for in the ancient texts.

 

Chandrashekhar

 

On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar,

>

> I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> units have changed over the years).

>

> RR_,

>

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini,

> >

> > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> for

> > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > bias do they not?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> not as

> > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> mail-order

> > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> most

> > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

> > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > >

> > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

> > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > >

> > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > be as

> > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> craze,

> > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > have not

> > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> be some

> > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> know the

> > > > > source.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> before i

> > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

> > > should

> > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > rattis.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

 

My apologies for earlier addressing you by name. I did not realize that you were

an elder member -- until I found out in one of your messages recently. Please

realize that no disrespect was intended earlier from my side.

 

Yes, it is indeed a very curious and even mystical connection between ratnas and

remedies. I recall instances where in different cases the ratnas for rahu and

ketu were recommended, were chosen with care and using proper protocol but the

individuals kept 'losing' the gemstones! Finally, they were advised to acquire

the gemstone and keep it in their pooja area. After the period was over, they

donated the gemstones following Satyanarayan Katha. Problem was resolved

satisfactorily.

 

Pranaam,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> not find any support for in the ancient texts.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

>

> On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > units have changed over the years).

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini,

> > >

> > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > for

> > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > > bias do they not?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > not as

> > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > mail-order

> > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > most

> > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

> > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > >

> > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

> > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > > be as

> > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > craze,

> > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > > have not

> > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > be some

> > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > know the

> > > > > > source.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > before i

> > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes Shenoy_jee. Thanks for your very informative post.

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji & others,

>

> Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals like Narada

Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings and not for ordinary

individuals. The Kings are natural holders of raja yogas, which means they have

the natural strength to withstand negative influences also.

> However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

>

> Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a) wearing

it (b) give away as daana.

> In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> (a) keep with you what is good

> (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

>

> a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

>

> What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

>

> Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies & particularly

regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to planets that are causing harm

should be given away as daana. Instead we find they are advised to be worn.

After all who would like to give away a costly gem?

>

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

>

> Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

>

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> not find any support for in the ancient texts.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

> On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > units have changed over the years).

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini,

> > >

> > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > for

> > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > > bias do they not?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > not as

> > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > mail-order

> > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > most

> > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

> > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > >

> > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

> > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > > be as

> > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

> > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > craze,

> > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > > have not

> > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > be some

> > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > know the

> > > > > > source.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > before i

> > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

> > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

 Dear Shri Shenoy Jee,

If we r able to withstand to negative effects by way of keeping and giving,one

will have the fortune to find his raja yogas work and wish to become King?

How to avoid curiosity 'coz all these lustrous items attact and make us

volunteers for wearing not for giving away?Gems are rare items and so diamonds

are for ever.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Sun, 2/14/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

 

Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes Shenoy_jee. Thanks for your very informative post.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Rohini ji & others,

 

>

 

> Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals like Narada

Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings and not for ordinary

individuals. The Kings are natural holders of raja yogas, which means they have

the natural strength to withstand negative influences also.

 

> However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

 

>

 

> Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a) wearing

it (b) give away as daana.

 

> In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

 

> (a) keep with you what is good

 

> (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

 

>

 

> a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

 

> b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

 

>

 

> What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

 

>

 

> Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies & particularly

regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to planets that are causing harm

should be given away as daana. Instead we find they are advised to be worn.

After all who would like to give away a costly gem?

 

>

 

>

 

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har

 

>

 

> Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

 

> Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

>

 

> Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

 

> those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

 

> help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

 

> That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

 

> life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

 

> channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

 

> not find any support for in the ancient texts.

 

>

 

> Chandrashekhar

 

>

 

> On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

> >

 

> > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

 

> > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

 

> > units have changed over the years).

 

> >

 

> > RR_,

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

 

> > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Rohini,

 

> > >

 

> > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

 

> > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

 

> > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

 

> > for

 

> > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

 

> > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

 

> > > bias do they not?

 

> > >

 

> > > Regards,

 

> > > Chandrashekhar

 

> > >

 

> > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

 

> > not as

 

> > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

 

> > mail-order

 

> > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

 

> > most

 

> > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not becoming

 

> > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

 

> > > >

 

> > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the gemstone

 

> > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

 

> > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

 

> > > >

 

> > > > RR

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

 

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

 

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

 

> > > > be as

 

> > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

 

> > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of fast food

 

> > > > > culture, who has the time?

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Regards,

 

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

 

> > craze,

 

> > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > > RR_,

 

> > > > > >

 

> > > > > >

 

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

 

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

 

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

 

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Dear Naina,

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

 

> > > > have not

 

> > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

 

> > be some

 

> > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

 

> > know the

 

> > > > > > source.

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > Take care,

 

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > dear all

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

 

> > before i

 

> > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across that you

 

> > > > should

 

> > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

 

> > > > rattis.

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided? is it

 

> > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > regards

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > > naina

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

 

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Suresh Babu,

 

Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya which

specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

could easily have missed it.

 

 

Regards,

Chandrasekhar

 

On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji & others,

>

> Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings

> and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> negative influences also.

> However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

>

> Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> (a) keep with you what is good

> (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

>

> a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

>

> What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

>

> Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to give

> away a costly gem?

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ________________________________

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

>

> <%40>

> Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> not find any support for in the ancient texts.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

> On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > units have changed over the years).

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini,

> > >

> > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > for

> > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > > bias do they not?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > not as

> > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > mail-order

> > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > most

> > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> becoming

> > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > >

> > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> gemstone

> > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > > be as

> > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> fast food

> > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > craze,

> > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > > have not

> > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > be some

> > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > know the

> > > > > > source.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > before i

> > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> that you

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided?

> is it

> > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

I do not mind being addressed by name. I know you do not mean any

disrespect, being a sincere astrologer, and there is no equivalent nor

place to " Jee " in English language. So do not worry on that count.

 

I do agree that gems do have powers as curative measure. I was only

trying to say that for lack of any clear mention on their exact use, in

astrological texts, people do not generally understand when they are to

be donated, as in the case you quoted, and when they are to be worn and why.

 

There is no serious effort to understand how and at what level they work

when they are worn and that leads to all sorts of commercial

salesmanship entering in a principally remedial field. It is in this

reference that I was commenting on the shapes and sizes that are being

prescribed and the blanket curative powers being claimed in certain

fields for certain gems.m

 

As a matter of fact if some efforts ar made to read and understand the

scriptures and also know and fathom the astrological reason behind

certain rituals performed and donations given on certain days with

specific planetary configuration, it might not be difficult to

understand how the gems and for that matter even the grains and clothes

can be used. Some deep pondering over the working of human mind and body

could also make one realize how these might be working.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

On 2/15/2010 5:25 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

>

> My apologies for earlier addressing you by name. I did not realize

> that you were an elder member -- until I found out in one of your

> messages recently. Please realize that no disrespect was intended

> earlier from my side.

>

> Yes, it is indeed a very curious and even mystical connection between

> ratnas and remedies. I recall instances where in different cases the

> ratnas for rahu and ketu were recommended, were chosen with care and

> using proper protocol but the individuals kept 'losing' the gemstones!

> Finally, they were advised to acquire the gemstone and keep it in

> their pooja area. After the period was over, they donated the

> gemstones following Satyanarayan Katha. Problem was resolved

> satisfactorily.

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the

> shapes.

> > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> >

> > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > units have changed over the years).

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> of it.

> > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> without any

> > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> prescription

> > > for

> > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> have a

> > > > bias do they not?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > > not as

> > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > mail-order

> > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > > most

> > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> becoming

> > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> gemstone

> > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> meant to

> > > > > be as

> > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> fast food

> > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes-all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > > craze,

> > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> given? I

> > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > > be some

> > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > > know the

> > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > > before i

> > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> that you

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to

> 6.32

> > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> avoided? is it

> > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Chandrashekhar jee,

 

I was under the impression that Garuda Purana dealt with the topic of gemstones.

Not sure though if it goes into details such as weight etc in astrological

context.

 

regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Suresh Babu,

>

> Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

> Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya which

> specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> could easily have missed it.

>

>

> Regards,

> Chandrasekhar

>

> On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> >

> > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings

> > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > negative influences also.

> > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> >

> > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > (a) keep with you what is good

> > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> >

> > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> >

> > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> >

> > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to give

> > away a costly gem?

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

> >

> > <%40>

> > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > units have changed over the years).

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > > for

> > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > > > bias do they not?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > > not as

> > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > mail-order

> > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > > most

> > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > becoming

> > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > gemstone

> > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > > > be as

> > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > fast food

> > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > > craze,

> > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > > be some

> > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > > know the

> > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > > before i

> > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > that you

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided?

> > is it

> > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekar ji,

 

I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went through these

puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology & related matters are

scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu purana etc some of them

dealing in various aspects. They are not in a specific order.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

 

Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

 

 

Dear Suresh Babu,

 

Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya which

specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

could easily have missed it.

 

Regards,

Chandrasekhar

 

On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji & others,

>

> Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings

> and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> negative influences also.

> However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

>

> Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> (a) keep with you what is good

> (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

>

> a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

>

> What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

>

> Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to give

> away a costly gem?

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

>

> <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> not find any support for in the ancient texts.

>

> Chandrashekhar

>

> On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > units have changed over the years).

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini,

> > >

> > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive of it.

> > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn without any

> > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > for

> > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do have a

> > > bias do they not?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > not as

> > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > mail-order

> > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > most

> > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> becoming

> > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > >

> > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> gemstone

> > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was meant to

> > > > be as

> > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> fast food

> > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > craze,

> > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is given? I

> > > > have not

> > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > be some

> > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > know the

> > > > > > source.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > before i

> > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> that you

> > > > should

> > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to 6.32

> > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided?

> is it

> > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

It does. It also talks about where they can be found and the

mythological story about their origin. Narada purana does mention about

Gems but not the weights or shapes.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

On 2/16/2010 1:16 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> Chandrashekhar jee,

>

> I was under the impression that Garuda Purana dealt with the topic of

> gemstones. Not sure though if it goes into details such as weight etc

> in astrological context.

>

> regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Suresh Babu,

> >

> > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

> > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya

> which

> > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> > could easily have missed it.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrasekhar

> >

> > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > >

> > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings

> > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > > negative influences also.

> > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > >

> > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > >

> > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > >

> > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to give

> > > away a costly gem?

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > >

> > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems

> do not

> > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the

> shapes.

> > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> positive of it.

> > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> without any

> > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> prescription

> > > > for

> > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they

> do have a

> > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > > > not as

> > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > > mail-order

> > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in

> which

> > > > most

> > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > > becoming

> > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > > gemstone

> > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> meant to

> > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read

> other

> > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > > fast food

> > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> pretty new

> > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> given? I

> > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > > > know the

> > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> everything

> > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > > that you

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal

> to 6.32

> > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> avoided?

> > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Suresh Babu,

 

Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the source.

Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I have

not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about the

weight and shape parts of it.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar

 

On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekar ji,

>

> I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went through

> these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology & related

> matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu

> purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not in a

> specific order.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ________________________________

> Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

>

> <%40>

> Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

>

> Dear Suresh Babu,

>

> Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

> Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya which

> specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> could easily have missed it.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrasekhar

>

> On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> >

> > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings

> > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > negative influences also.

> > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> >

> > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > (a) keep with you what is good

> > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> >

> > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> >

> > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> >

> > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to give

> > away a costly gem?

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> >

> > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > >

> > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > units have changed over the years).

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashek har wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> of it.

> > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> without any

> > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > > for

> > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> have a

> > > > bias do they not?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > > not as

> > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > mail-order

> > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > > most

> > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > becoming

> > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > gemstone

> > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> meant to

> > > > > be as

> > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > fast food

> > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > > craze,

> > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> given? I

> > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > > be some

> > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > > know the

> > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > > before i

> > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > that you

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to

> 6.32

> > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided?

> > is it

> > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

 

I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles where for

some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps out of modesty ;-)

where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained details about the gemstones in

astrology! Quite honestly, full citation has not been the forte of modern

jyotish authors, even going back a few decades, even very accomplished

jyotishis. I am not saying this to question their scholarship or ability as a

Jyotishi, but it just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers

had been more rigorous with citing sources etc.

 

Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in Jyotish/astrology!

 

The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya a book in

hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath Bhasin, published from

Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00 back then!). It gives some

references from Rigveda and Ayurveda Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies

that in the 6th mandal , 19th sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of

gemstones is clearly indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all

myself). But when it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values

without mentioning any ancient source for the same.

 

In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Suresh Babu,

>

> Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the source.

> Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I have

> not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about the

> weight and shape parts of it.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar

>

> On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> >

> > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went through

> > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology & related

> > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu

> > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not in a

> > specific order.

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

> >

> > <%40>

> > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> >

> > Dear Suresh Babu,

> >

> > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

> > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya which

> > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> > could easily have missed it.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrasekhar

> >

> > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > >

> > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for Kings

> > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > > negative influences also.

> > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > >

> > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > >

> > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > >

> > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to give

> > > away a costly gem?

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > >

> > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > >

> > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems do not

> > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the shapes.

> > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance love

> > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is what I do

> > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > >

> > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> > of it.

> > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > without any

> > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any prescription

> > > > for

> > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these days,

> > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> > have a

> > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but it is

> > > > not as

> > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > > mail-order

> > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way in which

> > > > most

> > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > > becoming

> > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > > gemstone

> > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally does not

> > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other remedies ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> > meant to

> > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to read other

> > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > > fast food

> > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a pretty new

> > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> > given? I

> > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so this must

> > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am curious to

> > > > know the

> > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up everything

> > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > > that you

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is equal to

> > 6.32

> > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be avoided?

> > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini Ranjan,

 

I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

 

You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting them

by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving the

quote, but many like to give reference without reading it themselves,

preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be authentic.

 

Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas to

support their contention and that is not very good practice if we want

the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one gives

one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated instead

of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it and

giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and vedic

Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

 

I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them are

published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as there

can be.

 

Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all types

of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and not

variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might have

forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

mentions differential weights.

 

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

 

 

On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

>

> I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles

> where for some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps out

> of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even going

> back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not saying

> this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but it

> just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had been

> more rigorous with citing sources etc.

>

> Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> Jyotish/astrology!

>

> The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya a

> book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00

> back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal , 19th

> sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But when

> it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values without

> mentioning any ancient source for the same.

>

> In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > Dear Suresh Babu,

> >

> > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the source.

> > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I have

> > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about the

> > weight and shape parts of it.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar

> >

> > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > >

> > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went

> through

> > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology &

> related

> > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu

> > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not in a

> > > specific order.

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

> > >

> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > >

> > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

> > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya

> which

> > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> > > could easily have missed it.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrasekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for

> Kings

> > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > > > negative influences also.

> > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > >

> > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > >

> > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > >

> > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> > > >

> > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to

> give

> > > > away a costly gem?

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > >

> > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems

> do not

> > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the

> shapes.

> > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance

> love

> > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is

> what I do

> > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > >

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > >

> > > > > RR_,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> > > of it.

> > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > > without any

> > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> prescription

> > > > > for

> > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these

> days,

> > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> > > have a

> > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but

> it is

> > > > > not as

> > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way

> in which

> > > > > most

> > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > > > becoming

> > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally

> does not

> > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> remedies ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> > > meant to

> > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to

> read other

> > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> pretty new

> > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> > > given? I

> > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so

> this must

> > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> curious to

> > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> everything

> > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > > > that you

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> equal to

> > > 6.32

> > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> avoided?

> > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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Chandrashekhar jee,

 

No Tongue-in-cheek mode of expression was intended. Just saying it like I have

seen it over the years...!

 

RR_,

 

, Chandrashekhar

<sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

>

> You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting them

> by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving the

> quote, but many like to give reference without reading it themselves,

> preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be authentic.

>

> Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas to

> support their contention and that is not very good practice if we want

> the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one gives

> one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated instead

> of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it and

> giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and vedic

> Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

>

> I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them are

> published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as there

> can be.

>

> Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all types

> of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and not

> variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might have

> forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> mentions differential weights.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

>

> On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> >

> > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles

> > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps out

> > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even going

> > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not saying

> > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but it

> > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had been

> > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> >

> > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > Jyotish/astrology!

> >

> > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya a

> > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00

> > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal , 19th

> > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But when

> > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values without

> > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> >

> > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> > <%40>, Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > >

> > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the source.

> > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I have

> > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about the

> > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went

> > through

> > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology &

> > related

> > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu

> > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not in a

> > > > specific order.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@

> > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com>>

> > > >

> > <%40>

> > > > <%40>

> > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > >

> > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana please?

> > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya

> > which

> > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many years.

> > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for

> > Kings

> > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > >

> > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways - (a)

> > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > >

> > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana. Instead

> > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to

> > give

> > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > >

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > >

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis for

> > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems

> > do not

> > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the

> > shapes.

> > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance

> > love

> > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is

> > what I do

> > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as far

> > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> > > > of it.

> > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > > > without any

> > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > prescription

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these

> > days,

> > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> > > > have a

> > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but

> > it is

> > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way

> > in which

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally

> > does not

> > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to

> > read other

> > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> > pretty new

> > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so

> > this must

> > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > curious to

> > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> > everything

> > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > equal to

> > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> > avoided?

> > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >