Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

February 18, 2010

Hi,

I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe Mumbai.

They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology India.

It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

It was recommended to me by a friend.

To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there has

been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel tired

because of the fights.

Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

recommendation was a proper one.

10th March 1974

06:30am

Bombay

I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some time and

give his or her opinion.

Thanking you

Kind Regards

PRASHU

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan,

>

> I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

>

> You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting them

> by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving the

> quote, but many like to give reference without reading it themselves,

> preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be authentic.

>

> Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas to

> support their contention and that is not very good practice if we want

> the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one gives

> one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated instead

> of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it and

> giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and vedic

> Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

>

> I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them are

> published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as there

> can be.

>

> Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all types

> of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and not

> variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might have

> forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> mentions differential weights.

>

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> >

> > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles

> > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps out

> > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even going

> > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not saying

> > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but it

> > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had been

> > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> >

> > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > Jyotish/astrology!

> >

> > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya a

> > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00

> > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal , 19th

> > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But when

> > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values without

> > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> >

> > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > <%40>

> >

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>,

> Chandrashekhar

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > >

> > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the source.

> > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I have

> > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about the

> > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > >

> > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > >

> > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went

> > through

> > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology &

> > related

> > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu

> > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not in a

> > > > specific order.

> > > >

> > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar

> > > >

<sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com<sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> >>

> > > > <%40>

> >

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> >

> > > >

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> >

> > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > >

> > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana

> please?

> > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya

> > which

> > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many

> years.

> > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for

> > Kings

> > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > >

> > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways -

> (a)

> > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > >

> > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> > > > >

> > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana.

> Instead

> > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to

> > give

> > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > >

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > >

> > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis

> for

> > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems

> > do not

> > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the

> > shapes.

> > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance

> > love

> > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is

> > what I do

> > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as

> far

> > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> > > > of it.

> > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > > > without any

> > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > prescription

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these

> > days,

> > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> > > > have a

> > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but

> > it is

> > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way

> > in which

> > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally

> > does not

> > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to

> > read other

> > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> > pretty new

> > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so

> > this must

> > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > curious to

> > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> > everything

> > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > equal to

> > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> > avoided?

> > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

February 18, 2010

I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the jeweler's

shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your friend who

recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a better approach

rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming thoroughly confused

and also that might affect your friendship with this person.

Just a thought...!

Rohiniranjan

, Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe Mumbai.

> They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology India.

> It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

>

> It was recommended to me by a friend.

>

> To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there has

> been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel tired

> because of the fights.

>

> Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> recommendation was a proper one.

>

> 10th March 1974

> 06:30am

> Bombay

>

> I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some time and

> give his or her opinion.

>

> Thanking you

>

> Kind Regards

>

> PRASHU

>

> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> >

> > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> >

> > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting them

> > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving the

> > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it themselves,

> > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be authentic.

> >

> > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas to

> > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we want

> > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one gives

> > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated instead

> > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it and

> > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and vedic

> > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> >

> > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them are

> > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as there

> > can be.

> >

> > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all types

> > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and not

> > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might have

> > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > mentions differential weights.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > >

> > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles

> > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps out

> > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even going

> > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not saying

> > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but it

> > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had been

> > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > >

> > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > >

> > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya a

> > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00

> > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal , 19th

> > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But when

> > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values without

> > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > >

> > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > --- In

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> > >

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>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > >

> > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the source.

> > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I have

> > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about the

> > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went

> > > through

> > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology &

> > > related

> > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana, Vayu

> > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not in a

> > > > > specific order.

> > > > >

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@

> > > > >

<sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com<sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > >>

> > > > > To:

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> > >

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> > >

> > > > >

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> > >

> > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana

> > please?

> > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the adhyaaya

> > > which

> > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana, but I

> > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many

> > years.

> > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic classicals

> > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for

> > > Kings

> > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders of

> > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to withstand

> > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways -

> > (a)

> > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to ceaser.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies &

> > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana.

> > Instead

> > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like to

> > > give

> > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the basis

> > for

> > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying Gems

> > > do not

> > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and the

> > > shapes.

> > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour, advance

> > > love

> > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the TV

> > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is

> > > what I do

> > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but as

> > far

> > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis (the

> > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>, Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the positive

> > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > prescription

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must these

> > > days,

> > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and they do

> > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but

> > > it is

> > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality by

> > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way

> > > in which

> > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are not

> > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least the

> > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally

> > > does not

> > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it was

> > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to

> > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days of

> > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> > > pretty new

> > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it is

> > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so

> > > this must

> > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > curious to

> > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> > > everything

> > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come across

> > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > equal to

> > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> > > avoided?

> > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

February 19, 2010

Pranam Rohiniranjanji,

Thanks for taking time to reply to me query. The issue is that he had shown

me a yellow Sapphire which was not real and was Bangkok made. The price was

also too high for the same, and hence i did not end up buying from him.

He is also a professional astrologer and i do pay him his professional fee

for his advice. I have not gone bac to him after i have purchased this stone

as i did not want him to feel bad , that i did not purchased it from him.

Hence if i can get a unbiased opinion on this then i would really appreciate

it .

Thanking you

Kind Regards

Prashu

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote:

>

> I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the

> jeweler's shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your friend

> who recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a better

> approach rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming

> thoroughly confused and also that might affect your friendship with this

> person.

>

> Just a thought...!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> <%40>,

> Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe Mumbai.

> > They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology

> India.

> > It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

> >

> > It was recommended to me by a friend.

> >

> > To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there has

> > been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel tired

> > because of the fights.

> >

> > Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> > recommendation was a proper one.

> >

> > 10th March 1974

> > 06:30am

> > Bombay

> >

> > I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some time

> and

> > give his or her opinion.

> >

> > Thanking you

> >

> > Kind Regards

> >

> > PRASHU

> >

> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> > sharma.chandrashekhar wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > >

> > > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> > >

> > > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting

> them

> > > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving the

> > > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it themselves,

> > > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be authentic.

> > >

> > > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas to

> > > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we want

> > > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one

> gives

> > > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated instead

> > > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it and

> > > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and vedic

> > > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> > >

> > > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them are

> > > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as

> there

> > > can be.

> > >

> > > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all

> types

> > > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and not

> > > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might have

> > > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > > mentions differential weights.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > > >

> > > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles

> > > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps

> out

> > > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even going

> > > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not saying

> > > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but it

> > > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had been

> > > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > > >

> > > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > > >

> > > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya

> a

> > > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00

> > > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal ,

> 19th

> > > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But

> when

> > > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values without

> > > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > > >

> > > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > --- In

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> <%40>

> > > >

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> <%2540>>,

>

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > >

> > > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the

> source.

> > > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I

> have

> > > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about

> the

> > > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went

> > > > through

> > > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology &

> > > > related

> > > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana,

> Vayu

> > > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not

> in a

> > > > > > specific order.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@

> > > > > >

<sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com<sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> <sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > > >>

> > > > > > To:

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> <%40>

> > > >

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> <%2540>

> > > >

> > > > > >

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> <%2540>

>

> > > >

> > > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana

> > > please?

> > > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the

> adhyaaya

> > > > which

> > > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana,

> but I

> > > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many

> > > years.

> > > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic

> classicals

> > > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for

> > > > Kings

> > > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders

> of

> > > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to

> withstand

> > > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways

> -

> > > (a)

> > > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to

> ceaser.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies

> &

> > > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana.

> > > Instead

> > > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like

> to

> > > > give

> > > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the

> basis

> > > for

> > > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying

> Gems

> > > > do not

> > > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and

> the

> > > > shapes.

> > > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour,

> advance

> > > > love

> > > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the

> TV

> > > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is

> > > > what I do

> > > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but

> as

> > > far

> > > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis

> (the

> > > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> positive

> > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > > prescription

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must

> these

> > > > days,

> > > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and

> they do

> > > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but

> > > > it is

> > > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality

> by

> > > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way

> > > > in which

> > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are

> not

> > > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least

> the

> > > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally

> > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it

> was

> > > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to

> > > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days

> of

> > > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> > > > pretty new

> > > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called

> 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it

> is

> > > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so

> > > > this must

> > > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > > curious to

> > > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> > > > everything

> > > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come

> across

> > > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > > equal to

> > > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> > > > avoided?

> > > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

February 19, 2010

Dear Prashant,

Yollow Sapphire is not at all suitable for you. Jupiter is a Malefic for your

Kumbha Lagna. Just because Ju Maha Dasa is running you can't strenghen Ju who is

a malefic for you and in Lagna.

I suggest you to wear a Cat's Eye made in Silver on right hand middle finger (

Karma Saturn sthana) which you can wear throught life.

> > 10th March 1974

> > 06:30am

> > Bombay

> >

+--------------+

| | |Ma |Sa Ke |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|As Su | | |

|Me Ju | | |

|HL | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

|Ve GL | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Ra |Md |Gk AL |Mo |

| | | | |

+--------------+

Best regards,

Ravi Gollapalli.

, Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

>

> Pranam Rohiniranjanji,

>

> Thanks for taking time to reply to me query. The issue is that he had shown

> me a yellow Sapphire which was not real and was Bangkok made. The price was

> also too high for the same, and hence i did not end up buying from him.

>

> He is also a professional astrologer and i do pay him his professional fee

> for his advice. I have not gone bac to him after i have purchased this stone

> as i did not want him to feel bad , that i did not purchased it from him.

>

> Hence if i can get a unbiased opinion on this then i would really appreciate

> it .

>

> Thanking you

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Prashu

>

> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote:

>

> >

> > I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the

> > jeweler's shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your friend

> > who recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a better

> > approach rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming

> > thoroughly confused and also that might affect your friendship with this

> > person.

> >

> > Just a thought...!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > <%40>,

> > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe Mumbai.

> > > They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology

> > India.

> > > It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

> > >

> > > It was recommended to me by a friend.

> > >

> > > To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there has

> > > been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel tired

> > > because of the fights.

> > >

> > > Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> > > recommendation was a proper one.

> > >

> > > 10th March 1974

> > > 06:30am

> > > Bombay

> > >

> > > I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some time

> > and

> > > give his or her opinion.

> > >

> > > Thanking you

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > >

> > > PRASHU

> > >

> > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> > > sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > >

> > > > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> > > >

> > > > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting

> > them

> > > > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving the

> > > > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it themselves,

> > > > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be authentic.

> > > >

> > > > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas to

> > > > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we want

> > > > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one

> > gives

> > > > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated instead

> > > > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it and

> > > > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and vedic

> > > > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> > > >

> > > > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them are

> > > > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as

> > there

> > > > can be.

> > > >

> > > > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all

> > types

> > > > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and not

> > > > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might have

> > > > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > > > mentions differential weights.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > >

> > > > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > > > >

> > > > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less articles

> > > > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name, perhaps

> > out

> > > > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even going

> > > > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not saying

> > > > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but it

> > > > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had been

> > > > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > > > >

> > > > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna Parichaya

> > a

> > > > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs. 5.00

> > > > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal ,

> > 19th

> > > > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But

> > when

> > > > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values without

> > > > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

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> > <%40>

> > > > >

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> > <%2540>>,

> >

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the

> > source.

> > > > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part I

> > have

> > > > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know about

> > the

> > > > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I went

> > > > > through

> > > > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology &

> > > > > related

> > > > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada purana,

> > Vayu

> > > > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are not

> > in a

> > > > > > > specific order.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@

> > > > > > >

<sharma.chandrashekhar%40gmail.com<sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > <sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > > > >>

> > > > > > > To:

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> > <%40>

> > > > >

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> > <%2540>

> > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > <%2540>

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada Purana

> > > > please?

> > > > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the

> > adhyaaya

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada Purana,

> > but I

> > > > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so many

> > > > years.

> > > > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic

> > classicals

> > > > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided for

> > > > > Kings

> > > > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural holders

> > of

> > > > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to

> > withstand

> > > > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two ways

> > -

> > > > (a)

> > > > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to

> > ceaser.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of remedies

> > &

> > > > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems pertaining to

> > > > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as daana.

> > > > Instead

> > > > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would like

> > to

> > > > > give

> > > > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the

> > basis

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying

> > Gems

> > > > > do not

> > > > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part and

> > the

> > > > > shapes.

> > > > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour,

> > advance

> > > > > love

> > > > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on the

> > TV

> > > > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That is

> > > > > what I do

> > > > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition, but

> > as

> > > > far

> > > > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by jyotishis

> > (the

> > > > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> > positive

> > > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and worn

> > > > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > > > prescription

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must

> > these

> > > > > days,

> > > > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and

> > they do

> > > > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit but

> > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and quality

> > by

> > > > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the way

> > > > > in which

> > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they are

> > not

> > > > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At least

> > the

> > > > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and generally

> > > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way it

> > was

> > > > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have to

> > > > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these days

> > of

> > > > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively a

> > > > > pretty new

> > > > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called

> > 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which it

> > is

> > > > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts, so

> > > > > this must

> > > > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > > > curious to

> > > > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked up

> > > > > everything

> > > > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come

> > across

> > > > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15 rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > > > equal to

> > > > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis be

> > > > > avoided?

> > > > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

February 20, 2010

Hi Ravi,

Pranam

Thanks for having a look at my horoscope, I have already invested heavly in

yellow sappire, Why did he suggested me ?, he said Jupiter in lagna will

help in respect of money , child birth and work.

I really appreciate ur time and opinion , thanks again, Your opinion is

valuable for me.

thanks

Kind Regards

Prashu

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM, sbt_ravi <sbt_ravi wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

> Yollow Sapphire is not at all suitable for you. Jupiter is a Malefic for

> your Kumbha Lagna. Just because Ju Maha Dasa is running you can't strenghen

> Ju who is a malefic for you and in Lagna.

> I suggest you to wear a Cat's Eye made in Silver on right hand middle

> finger ( Karma Saturn sthana) which you can wear throught life.

>

> > > 10th March 1974

> > > 06:30am

> > > Bombay

> > >

>

> +--------------+

> | | |Ma |Sa Ke |

> | | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |As Su | | |

> |Me Ju | | |

> |HL | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> |Ve GL | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Ra |Md |Gk AL |Mo |

> | | | | |

> +--------------+

>

> Best regards,

>

> Ravi Gollapalli.

>

> <%40>,

> Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

> >

> > Pranam Rohiniranjanji,

> >

> > Thanks for taking time to reply to me query. The issue is that he had

> shown

> > me a yellow Sapphire which was not real and was Bangkok made. The price

> was

> > also too high for the same, and hence i did not end up buying from him.

> >

> > He is also a professional astrologer and i do pay him his professional

> fee

> > for his advice. I have not gone bac to him after i have purchased this

> stone

> > as i did not want him to feel bad , that i did not purchased it from him.

> >

> > Hence if i can get a unbiased opinion on this then i would really

> appreciate

> > it .

> >

> > Thanking you

> >

> > Kind Regards

> >

> > Prashu

> >

> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the

> > > jeweler's shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your

> friend

> > > who recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a

> better

> > > approach rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming

> > > thoroughly confused and also that might affect your friendship with

> this

> > > person.

> > >

> > > Just a thought...!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40>

> <%40>,

>

> > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe

> Mumbai.

> > > > They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology

> > > India.

> > > > It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

> > > >

> > > > It was recommended to me by a friend.

> > > >

> > > > To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there

> has

> > > > been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel

> tired

> > > > because of the fights.

> > > >

> > > > Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> > > > recommendation was a proper one.

> > > >

> > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > 06:30am

> > > > Bombay

> > > >

> > > > I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some

> time

> > > and

> > > > give his or her opinion.

> > > >

> > > > Thanking you

> > > >

> > > > Kind Regards

> > > >

> > > > PRASHU

> > > >

> > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> > > > >

> > > > > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting

> > > them

> > > > > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving

> the

> > > > > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it

> themselves,

> > > > > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be

> authentic.

> > > > >

> > > > > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas

> to

> > > > > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we

> want

> > > > > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one

> > > gives

> > > > > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated

> instead

> > > > > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it

> and

> > > > > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and

> vedic

> > > > > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them

> are

> > > > > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as

> > > there

> > > > > can be.

> > > > >

> > > > > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all

> > > types

> > > > > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and

> not

> > > > > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might

> have

> > > > > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > > > > mentions differential weights.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less

> articles

> > > > > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name,

> perhaps

> > > out

> > > > > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > > > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > > > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even

> going

> > > > > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not

> saying

> > > > > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but

> it

> > > > > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had

> been

> > > > > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > > > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna

> Parichaya

> > > a

> > > > > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > > > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs.

> 5.00

> > > > > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > > > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal ,

> > > 19th

> > > > > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > > > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But

> > > when

> > > > > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values

> without

> > > > > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

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> <%40>

> > > <%40>

> > > > > >

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> <%2540>

> > > <%2540>>,

> > >

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the

> > > source.

> > > > > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part

> I

> > > have

> > > > > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know

> about

> > > the

> > > > > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I

> went

> > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology

> &

> > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada

> purana,

> > > Vayu

> > > > > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are

> not

> > > in a

> > > > > > > > specific order.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@

> > > > > > > >

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> <sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > > <sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > To:

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> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada

> Purana

> > > > > please?

> > > > > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the

> > > adhyaaya

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada

> Purana,

> > > but I

> > > > > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so

> many

> > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic

> > > classicals

> > > > > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided

> for

> > > > > > Kings

> > > > > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural

> holders

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to

> > > withstand

> > > > > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two

> ways

> > > -

> > > > > (a)

> > > > > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to

> > > ceaser.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of

> remedies

> > > &

> > > > > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems

> pertaining to

> > > > > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as

> daana.

> > > > > Instead

> > > > > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would

> like

> > > to

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow

> sapphire

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the

> > > basis

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying

> > > Gems

> > > > > > do not

> > > > > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part

> and

> > > the

> > > > > > shapes.

> > > > > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour,

> > > advance

> > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on

> the

> > > TV

> > > > > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That

> is

> > > > > > what I do

> > > > > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition,

> but

> > > as

> > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by

> jyotishis

> > > (the

> > > > > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> > > positive

> > > > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and

> worn

> > > > > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > > > > prescription

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must

> > > these

> > > > > > days,

> > > > > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and

> > > they do

> > > > > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit

> but

> > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and

> quality

> > > by

> > > > > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the

> way

> > > > > > in which

> > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they

> are

> > > not

> > > > > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At

> least

> > > the

> > > > > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and

> generally

> > > > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > > > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way

> it

> > > was

> > > > > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have

> to

> > > > > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these

> days

> > > of

> > > > > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively

> a

> > > > > > pretty new

> > > > > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called

> > > 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which

> it

> > > is

> > > > > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts,

> so

> > > > > > this must

> > > > > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > > > > curious to

> > > > > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked

> up

> > > > > > everything

> > > > > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come

> > > across

> > > > > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15

> rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > > > > equal to

> > > > > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis

> be

> > > > > > avoided?

> > > > > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

February 21, 2010

Hi Prasanth,

It is better to wear a " Cats-eye " along with that " Yellow sapphire " gem to your

right hand middle finger. It will help you and makes you come out from the

obstacles in business and professional life. Or else if possible exchange that

" Yellow sapphire " and take a cats-eye gem in exchange. No need of wearing yellow

sapphire. Now it is very good time running for you which brings both name and

fame in the work with a promotion and also move forward the progeny matters. My

sincere advice is to wear a cats-eye asap. If You can, also donate an item made

of Silver (like Padukas, crown) to the SiddhiVinayak.

I use Naadi technique and predicted and adviced the gem stone based on that.

Thanks,

Ravi.

, Prashant Doshi <prashuastro wrote:

>

> Hi Ravi,

>

> Pranam

>

> Thanks for having a look at my horoscope, I have already invested heavly in

> yellow sappire, Why did he suggested me ?, he said Jupiter in lagna will

> help in respect of money , child birth and work.

>

> I really appreciate ur time and opinion , thanks again, Your opinion is

> valuable for me.

>

> thanks

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Prashu

>

> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM, sbt_ravi <sbt_ravi wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> > Yollow Sapphire is not at all suitable for you. Jupiter is a Malefic for

> > your Kumbha Lagna. Just because Ju Maha Dasa is running you can't strenghen

> > Ju who is a malefic for you and in Lagna.

> > I suggest you to wear a Cat's Eye made in Silver on right hand middle

> > finger ( Karma Saturn sthana) which you can wear throught life.

> >

> > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > 06:30am

> > > > Bombay

> > > >

> >

> > +--------------+

> > | | |Ma |Sa Ke |

> > | | | | |

> > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > |As Su | | |

> > |Me Ju | | |

> > |HL | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> > |Ve GL | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> > |Ra |Md |Gk AL |Mo |

> > | | | | |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Ravi Gollapalli.

> >

> > <%40>,

> > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranam Rohiniranjanji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for taking time to reply to me query. The issue is that he had

> > shown

> > > me a yellow Sapphire which was not real and was Bangkok made. The price

> > was

> > > also too high for the same, and hence i did not end up buying from him.

> > >

> > > He is also a professional astrologer and i do pay him his professional

> > fee

> > > for his advice. I have not gone bac to him after i have purchased this

> > stone

> > > as i did not want him to feel bad , that i did not purchased it from him.

> > >

> > > Hence if i can get a unbiased opinion on this then i would really

> > appreciate

> > > it .

> > >

> > > Thanking you

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > >

> > > Prashu

> > >

> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the

> > > > jeweler's shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your

> > friend

> > > > who recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a

> > better

> > > > approach rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming

> > > > thoroughly confused and also that might affect your friendship with

> > this

> > > > person.

> > > >

> > > > Just a thought...!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > --- In

<%40>

> > <%40>,

> >

> > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe

> > Mumbai.

> > > > > They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology

> > > > India.

> > > > > It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

> > > > >

> > > > > It was recommended to me by a friend.

> > > > >

> > > > > To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there

> > has

> > > > > been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel

> > tired

> > > > > because of the fights.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> > > > > recommendation was a proper one.

> > > > >

> > > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > > 06:30am

> > > > > Bombay

> > > > >

> > > > > I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some

> > time

> > > > and

> > > > > give his or her opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > PRASHU

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> > > > > sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting

> > > > them

> > > > > > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving

> > the

> > > > > > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it

> > themselves,

> > > > > > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be

> > authentic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas

> > to

> > > > > > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we

> > want

> > > > > > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one

> > > > gives

> > > > > > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated

> > instead

> > > > > > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it

> > and

> > > > > > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and

> > vedic

> > > > > > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them

> > are

> > > > > > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as

> > > > there

> > > > > > can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all

> > > > types

> > > > > > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and

> > not

> > > > > > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might

> > have

> > > > > > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > > > > > mentions differential weights.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less

> > articles

> > > > > > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name,

> > perhaps

> > > > out

> > > > > > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > > > > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > > > > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even

> > going

> > > > > > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not

> > saying

> > > > > > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but

> > it

> > > > > > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had

> > been

> > > > > > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > > > > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna

> > Parichaya

> > > > a

> > > > > > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > > > > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs.

> > 5.00

> > > > > > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > > > > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal ,

> > > > 19th

> > > > > > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > > > > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But

> > > > when

> > > > > > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values

> > without

> > > > > > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In

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> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > >

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> > <%2540>

> > > > <%2540>>,

> > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the

> > > > source.

> > > > > > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I

> > went

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology

> > &

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada

> > purana,

> > > > Vayu

> > > > > > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are

> > not

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > specific order.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@

> > > > > > > > >

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> > <sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > > > <sharma.chandrashekhar%2540gmail.com>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > To:

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> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada

> > Purana

> > > > > > please?

> > > > > > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the

> > > > adhyaaya

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada

> > Purana,

> > > > but I

> > > > > > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so

> > many

> > > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic

> > > > classicals

> > > > > > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided

> > for

> > > > > > > Kings

> > > > > > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural

> > holders

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to

> > > > withstand

> > > > > > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two

> > ways

> > > > -

> > > > > > (a)

> > > > > > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to

> > > > ceaser.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of

> > remedies

> > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems

> > pertaining to

> > > > > > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as

> > daana.

> > > > > > Instead

> > > > > > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would

> > like

> > > > to

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow

> > sapphire

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the

> > > > basis

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying

> > > > Gems

> > > > > > > do not

> > > > > > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > > shapes.

> > > > > > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour,

> > > > advance

> > > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on

> > the

> > > > TV

> > > > > > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That

> > is

> > > > > > > what I do

> > > > > > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition,

> > but

> > > > as

> > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by

> > jyotishis

> > > > (the

> > > > > > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and

> > worn

> > > > > > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > > > > > prescription

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must

> > > > these

> > > > > > > days,

> > > > > > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and

> > > > they do

> > > > > > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit

> > but

> > > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and

> > quality

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the

> > way

> > > > > > > in which

> > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they

> > are

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At

> > least

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and

> > generally

> > > > > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > > > > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way

> > it

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have

> > to

> > > > > > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these

> > days

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively

> > a

> > > > > > > pretty new

> > > > > > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called

> > > > 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts,

> > so

> > > > > > > this must

> > > > > > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > > > > > curious to

> > > > > > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked

> > up

> > > > > > > everything

> > > > > > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come

> > > > across

> > > > > > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15

> > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > > > > > equal to

> > > > > > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis

> > be

> > > > > > > avoided?

> > > > > > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

February 21, 2010

Ravi Sahab,Cat's Eye is that whichÂ is visible in the darkness of night.One day

I went to Siva Ratan kendra,Haridwar,Uttarakhand who was selling Cat's Eye @

Rs.138000.00 per 120mg and even then the Cat's Eye was not worth

wearing.Similarly real Yellow sapphire / Pukhraj is also not available easily.Â

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Â

________________________________

sbt_ravi <sbt_ravi

Sun, February 21, 2010 4:02:43 PM

Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

Â

Hi Prasanth,

It is better to wear a " Cats-eye " along with that " Yellow sapphire " gem to your

right hand middle finger. It will help you and makes you come out from the

obstacles in business and professional life. Or else if possible exchange that

" Yellow sapphire " and take a cats-eye gem in exchange. No need of wearing yellow

sapphire. Now it is very good time running for you which brings both name and

fame in the work with a promotion and also move forward the progeny matters. My

sincere advice is to wear a cats-eye asap. If You can, also donate an item made

of Silver (like Padukas, crown) to the SiddhiVinayak.

I use Naadi technique and predicted and adviced the gem stone based on that.

Thanks,

Ravi.

, Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Ravi,

>

> Pranam

>

> Thanks for having a look at my horoscope, I have already invested heavly in

> yellow sappire, Why did he suggested me ?, he said Jupiter in lagna will

> help in respect of money , child birth and work.

>

> I really appreciate ur time and opinion , thanks again, Your opinion is

> valuable for me.

>

> thanks

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Prashu

>

> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM, sbt_ravi <sbt_ravi@.. .> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> > Yollow Sapphire is not at all suitable for you. Jupiter is a Malefic for

> > your Kumbha Lagna. Just because Ju Maha Dasa is running you can't strenghen

> > Ju who is a malefic for you and in Lagna.

> > I suggest you to wear a Cat's Eye made in Silver on right hand middle

> > finger ( Karma Saturn sthana) which you can wear throught life.

> >

> > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > 06:30am

> > > > Bombay

> > > >

> >

> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +

> > | | |Ma |Sa Ke |

> > | | | | |

> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |

> > |As Su | | |

> > |Me Ju | | |

> > |HL | | |

> > | | | |

> > |----------- | Rasi |----------- |

> > |Ve GL | | |

> > | | | |

> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |

> > |Ra |Md |Gk AL |Mo |

> > | | | | |

> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Ravi Gollapalli.

> >

> > <% 40.

com>,

> > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranam Rohiniranjanji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for taking time to reply to me query. The issue is that he had

> > shown

> > > me a yellow Sapphire which was not real and was Bangkok made. The price

> > was

> > > also too high for the same, and hence i did not end up buying from him.

> > >

> > > He is also a professional astrologer and i do pay him his professional

> > fee

> > > for his advice. I have not gone bac to him after i have purchased this

> > stone

> > > as i did not want him to feel bad , that i did not purchased it from him.

> > >

> > > Hence if i can get a unbiased opinion on this then i would really

> > appreciate

> > > it .

> > >

> > > Thanking you

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > >

> > > Prashu

> > >

> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the

> > > > jeweler's shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your

> > friend

> > > > who recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a

> > better

> > > > approach rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming

> > > > thoroughly confused and also that might affect your friendship with

> > this

> > > > person.

> > > >

> > > > Just a thought...!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > <%

40. com>

> > <% 40. com>,

> >

> > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe

> > Mumbai.

> > > > > They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology

> > > > India.

> > > > > It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

> > > > >

> > > > > It was recommended to me by a friend.

> > > > >

> > > > > To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there

> > has

> > > > > been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel

> > tired

> > > > > because of the fights.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> > > > > recommendation was a proper one.

> > > > >

> > > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > > 06:30am

> > > > > Bombay

> > > > >

> > > > > I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some

> > time

> > > > and

> > > > > give his or her opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > PRASHU

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> > > > > sharma.chandrashekh ar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting

> > > > them

> > > > > > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving

> > the

> > > > > > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it

> > themselves,

> > > > > > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be

> > authentic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas

> > to

> > > > > > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we

> > want

> > > > > > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one

> > > > gives

> > > > > > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated

> > instead

> > > > > > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it

> > and

> > > > > > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and

> > vedic

> > > > > > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them

> > are

> > > > > > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as

> > > > there

> > > > > > can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all

> > > > types

> > > > > > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and

> > not

> > > > > > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might

> > have

> > > > > > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > > > > > mentions differential weights.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less

> > articles

> > > > > > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name,

> > perhaps

> > > > out

> > > > > > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > > > > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > > > > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even

> > going

> > > > > > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not

> > saying

> > > > > > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but

> > it

> > > > > > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had

> > been

> > > > > > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > > > > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna

> > Parichaya

> > > > a

> > > > > > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > > > > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs.

> > 5.00

> > > > > > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > > > > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal ,

> > > > 19th

> > > > > > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > > > > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But

> > > > when

> > > > > > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values

> > without

> > > > > > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%

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> > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the

> > > > source.

> > > > > > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I

> > went

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology

> > &

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada

> > purana,

> > > > Vayu

> > > > > > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are

> > not

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > specific order.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@

> > > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com< sharma.chandrash

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> > <sharma.chandrashek har%2540gmail. com>

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har%2540gmail. com>

> > > > > > >>

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> > > > > > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada

> > Purana

> > > > > > please?

> > > > > > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the

> > > > adhyaaya

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada

> > Purana,

> > > > but I

> > > > > > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so

> > many

> > > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic

> > > > classicals

> > > > > > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided

> > for

> > > > > > > Kings

> > > > > > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural

> > holders

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to

> > > > withstand

> > > > > > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two

> > ways

> > > > -

> > > > > > (a)

> > > > > > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to

> > > > ceaser.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of

> > remedies

> > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems

> > pertaining to

> > > > > > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as

> > daana.

> > > > > > Instead

> > > > > > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would

> > like

> > > > to

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek h ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow

> > sapphire

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the

> > > > basis

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying

> > > > Gems

> > > > > > > do not

> > > > > > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > > shapes.

> > > > > > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour,

> > > > advance

> > > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on

> > the

> > > > TV

> > > > > > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That

> > is

> > > > > > > what I do

> > > > > > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition,

> > but

> > > > as

> > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by

> > jyotishis

> > > > (the

> > > > > > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and

> > worn

> > > > > > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > > > > > prescription

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must

> > > > these

> > > > > > > days,

> > > > > > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and

> > > > they do

> > > > > > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit

> > but

> > > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and

> > quality

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the

> > way

> > > > > > > in which

> > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they

> > are

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At

> > least

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and

> > generally

> > > > > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > > > > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way

> > it

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have

> > to

> > > > > > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these

> > days

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively

> > a

> > > > > > > pretty new

> > > > > > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called

> > > > 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts,

> > so

> > > > > > > this must

> > > > > > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > > > > > curious to

> > > > > > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked

> > up

> > > > > > > everything

> > > > > > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come

> > > > across

> > > > > > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15

> > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > > > > > equal to

> > > > > > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis

> > be

> > > > > > > avoided?

> > > > > > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

February 21, 2010

Ravi Sahab,Cat's Eye is that whichÂ is visible in the darkness of night.One day

I went to Siva Ratan kendra,Haridwar, Uttarakhand who was selling Cat's Eye @

Rs.138000.00 per 120mg and even then the Cat's Eye was not worth

wearing.Similarly real Yellow sapphire / Pukhraj is also not available

easily.Â Â

Dhirendra Nath Misra

Â

________________________________

sbt_ravi <sbt_ravi

Sun, February 21, 2010 4:02:43 PM

Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

Â

Hi Prasanth,

It is better to wear a " Cats-eye " along with that " Yellow sapphire " gem to your

right hand middle finger. It will help you and makes you come out from the

obstacles in business and professional life. Or else if possible exchange that

" Yellow sapphire " and take a cats-eye gem in exchange. No need of wearing yellow

sapphire. Now it is very good time running for you which brings both name and

fame in the work with a promotion and also move forward the progeny matters. My

sincere advice is to wear a cats-eye asap. If You can, also donate an item made

of Silver (like Padukas, crown) to the SiddhiVinayak.

I use Naadi technique and predicted and adviced the gem stone based on that.

Thanks,

Ravi.

, Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@ ...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Ravi,

>

> Pranam

>

> Thanks for having a look at my horoscope, I have already invested heavly in

> yellow sappire, Why did he suggested me ?, he said Jupiter in lagna will

> help in respect of money , child birth and work.

>

> I really appreciate ur time and opinion , thanks again, Your opinion is

> valuable for me.

>

> thanks

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Prashu

>

> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:16 PM, sbt_ravi <sbt_ravi@.. .> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> > Yollow Sapphire is not at all suitable for you. Jupiter is a Malefic for

> > your Kumbha Lagna. Just because Ju Maha Dasa is running you can't strenghen

> > Ju who is a malefic for you and in Lagna.

> > I suggest you to wear a Cat's Eye made in Silver on right hand middle

> > finger ( Karma Saturn sthana) which you can wear throught life.

> >

> > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > 06:30am

> > > > Bombay

> > > >

> >

> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +

> > | | |Ma |Sa Ke |

> > | | | | |

> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |

> > |As Su | | |

> > |Me Ju | | |

> > |HL | | |

> > | | | |

> > |----------- | Rasi |----------- |

> > |Ve GL | | |

> > | | | |

> > |----------- +-------- --------- ------+-- --------- |

> > |Ra |Md |Gk AL |Mo |

> > | | | | |

> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Ravi Gollapalli.

> >

> > <% 40.

com>,

> > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranam Rohiniranjanji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for taking time to reply to me query. The issue is that he had

> > shown

> > > me a yellow Sapphire which was not real and was Bangkok made. The price

> > was

> > > also too high for the same, and hence i did not end up buying from him.

> > >

> > > He is also a professional astrologer and i do pay him his professional

> > fee

> > > for his advice. I have not gone bac to him after i have purchased this

> > stone

> > > as i did not want him to feel bad , that i did not purchased it from him.

> > >

> > > Hence if i can get a unbiased opinion on this then i would really

> > appreciate

> > > it .

> > >

> > > Thanking you

> > >

> > > Kind Regards

> > >

> > > Prashu

> > >

> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ >wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I am assuming that your friend recommended the sap. and not just the

> > > > jeweler's shop? My advice to you would be to bring the matter to your

> > friend

> > > > who recommended the gemstone and ask him directly. This would be a

> > better

> > > > approach rather than getting one or more other opinions and becoming

> > > > thoroughly confused and also that might affect your friendship with

> > this

> > > > person.

> > > >

> > > > Just a thought...!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > <%

40. com>

> > <% 40. com>,

> >

> > > > Prashant Doshi <prashuastro@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I just bought a 6.02 carat yellow Sapphire from waman hari pethe

> > Mumbai.

> > > > > They have given me a Certificate with it from Institute of Gemology

> > > > India.

> > > > > It says S 4 class it is clear with a presence of a feather.

> > > > >

> > > > > It was recommended to me by a friend.

> > > > >

> > > > > To be honest , i feel from the day I ave started to wear it , there

> > has

> > > > > been fights in my house. I have been little more irritable and feel

> > tired

> > > > > because of the fights.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can some one please have a look at my horoscope and check if the

> > > > > recommendation was a proper one.

> > > > >

> > > > > 10th March 1974

> > > > > 06:30am

> > > > > Bombay

> > > > >

> > > > > I would be grateful if any respected Astrologer would put in some

> > time

> > > > and

> > > > > give his or her opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanking you

> > > > >

> > > > > Kind Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > PRASHU

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Chandrashekhar <

> > > > > sharma.chandrashekh ar@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I like your tongue in cheek comments. Glad you liked my question.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right, the tendency of making statements without supporting

> > > > them

> > > > > > by quotes is growing. Some may not be doing that to evade giving

> > the

> > > > > > quote, but many like to give reference without reading it

> > themselves,

> > > > > > preferring to rely on net discussions that may or may not be

> > authentic.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Most authors do not find it necessary to give the original shlokas

> > to

> > > > > > support their contention and that is not very good practice if we

> > want

> > > > > > the scope of the science to grow. Actually there is no harm if one

> > > > gives

> > > > > > one's own opinion but it is better if this is plainly indicated

> > instead

> > > > > > of referring to some scriptural reference without reproducing it

> > and

> > > > > > giving its translation (as many do not understand sanskrit and

> > vedic

> > > > > > Sanskrit is even more difficult to translate).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have read many books on use of gems but found that many of them

> > are

> > > > > > published by jewelers themselves and that is as biased a source as

> > > > there

> > > > > > can be.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Agni Purana does talk about gifting of gems but the weight for all

> > > > types

> > > > > > of Gems is uniform and of One Prastha (That appears logical) and

> > not

> > > > > > variable as is given out by most of the books. Of course I might

> > have

> > > > > > forgotten some reference that is there in the Agni Purana, if it

> > > > > > mentions differential weights.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 2/17/2010 4:40 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar jee,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I read in one of the web-article (one of those author-less

> > articles

> > > > > > > where for some reason the author withheld his or her name,

> > perhaps

> > > > out

> > > > > > > of modesty ;-) where it was mentioned that agni-purana contained

> > > > > > > details about the gemstones in astrology! Quite honestly, full

> > > > > > > citation has not been the forte of modern jyotish authors, even

> > going

> > > > > > > back a few decades, even very accomplished jyotishis. I am not

> > saying

> > > > > > > this to question their scholarship or ability as a Jyotishi, but

> > it

> > > > > > > just has been like that. To their merit, western astrologers had

> > been

> > > > > > > more rigorous with citing sources etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Just an observation! I have no desire to start a world-war in

> > > > > > > Jyotish/astrology!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The first time I ever read of the weights etc was in Ratna

> > Parichaya

> > > > a

> > > > > > > book in hindi written by Harishchandra Vidyalankar and Jagannath

> > > > > > > Bhasin, published from Goyal and company, in 1970 (it cost Rs.

> > 5.00

> > > > > > > back then!). It gives some references from Rigveda and Ayurveda

> > > > > > > Prakash re use of gemstones) and implies that in the 6th mandal ,

> > > > 19th

> > > > > > > sukta, 10th mantra of Rigveda, wearing of gemstones is clearly

> > > > > > > indicated (I am just quoting, haven't checked it all myself). But

> > > > when

> > > > > > > it comes to the weights, the authors simply state the values

> > without

> > > > > > > mentioning any ancient source for the same.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In other words, you asked a very " good " question!! :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%

40. com>

> > <% 40. com>

> > > > <% 40. com>

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com<Jyotish_ Remedies%

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> > <% 2540. com>

> > > > <% 2540. com>>,

> > > >

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Take your time. I know it is possible to sometime mix up the

> > > > source.

> > > > > > > > Gems do find mention in almost all Puranas, but the weight part

> > I

> > > > have

> > > > > > > > not seen or have perhaps missed. I would only like to know

> > about

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > weight and shape parts of it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 2/16/2010 3:18 AM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I shall get back to you on this. Its a long time since, I

> > went

> > > > > > > through

> > > > > > > > > these puranas. I may even have mis-named the work. Astrology

> > &

> > > > > > > related

> > > > > > > > > matters are scattered in a few of them including Narada

> > purana,

> > > > Vayu

> > > > > > > > > purana etc some of them dealing in various aspects. They are

> > not

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > > > specific order.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@

> > > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com< sharma.chandrash

ekhar%2540gmail. com>

> > <sharma.chandrashek har%2540gmail. com>

> > > > <sharma.chandrashek har%2540gmail. com>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > <%

40. com>

> > <% 40. com>

> > > > <% 40. com>

> > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com<Jyotish_ Remedies%

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> > <% 2540. com>

> > > > <% 2540. com>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com<Jyotish_

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> > > > <% 2540. com>

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mon, February 15, 2010 10:52:55 PM

> > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow sapphire

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Suresh Babu,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Could you point me to the shloka and adhyaaya of Narada

> > Purana

> > > > > > please?

> > > > > > > > > Or the shlokas themselves. I do not seem able to find the

> > > > adhyaaya

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > specifies the size/weight of gems in my copy of Narada

> > Purana,

> > > > but I

> > > > > > > > > could easily have missed it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > Chandrasekhar

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 11:50 PM, Suresh Babu.A.G wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji & others,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you know this already, being in the field for so

> > many

> > > > > > years.

> > > > > > > > > > Imformation regarding Gem stones are provided in Puranic

> > > > classicals

> > > > > > > > > > like Narada Purana etc. However, the size etc were provided

> > for

> > > > > > > Kings

> > > > > > > > > > and not for ordinary individuals. The Kings are natural

> > holders

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > raja yogas, which means they have the natural strength to

> > > > withstand

> > > > > > > > > > negative influences also.

> > > > > > > > > > However this is not the case with ordinary individuals.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Later Astrology also adapted the use of Gem stones in two

> > ways

> > > > -

> > > > > > (a)

> > > > > > > > > > wearing it (b) give away as daana.

> > > > > > > > > > In fact all the remedies have this basic theme

> > > > > > > > > > (a) keep with you what is good

> > > > > > > > > > (b) do away with what is giving trouble.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > a) Keeping means - doing mantra japa, upasana etc

> > > > > > > > > > b) do away means - propitiating by giving daana etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What is unto god goes to god & what is unto ceaser goes to

> > > > ceaser.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we see lot of confusion in the advice of

> > remedies

> > > > &

> > > > > > > > > > particularly regarding gems. To be explicit, Gems

> > pertaining to

> > > > > > > > > > planets that are causing harm should be given away as

> > daana.

> > > > > > Instead

> > > > > > > > > > we find they are advised to be worn. After all who would

> > like

> > > > to

> > > > > > > give

> > > > > > > > > > away a costly gem?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek h ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com

> > > > > > > > > > <sharma. chandrashekhar% 40gmail.com> >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > Sun, February 14, 2010 11:11:33 PM

> > > > > > > > > > Re: Help needed urgently about yellow

> > sapphire

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Yes, the unit was ratti and it is the weight only. But the

> > > > basis

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > those weights is not seen in ancient texts. I am not saying

> > > > Gems

> > > > > > > do not

> > > > > > > > > > help, they do. I am only concerned about the weight part

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > > > shapes.

> > > > > > > > > > That and the way they are advertised to increase vigour,

> > > > advance

> > > > > > > love

> > > > > > > > > > life make one calm and so on, irrespective of the chart, on

> > the

> > > > TV

> > > > > > > > > > channels and such use vouchsafed for by astrologers. That

> > is

> > > > > > > what I do

> > > > > > > > > > not find any support for in the ancient texts.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 2/14/2010 1:22 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I think the 'weight' factor was a more recent addition,

> > but

> > > > as

> > > > > > far

> > > > > > > > > > > back as I remember it was something widely used by

> > jyotishis

> > > > (the

> > > > > > > > > > > units have changed over the years).

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, they are a good investment, no doubt. That is the

> > > > positive

> > > > > > > > > of it.

> > > > > > > > > > > > They can help, even when bought from a good shop and

> > worn

> > > > > > > > > without any

> > > > > > > > > > > > arcane rituals cone over them, but I have not found any

> > > > > > > prescription

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > > their weight or size that is being projected as a must

> > > > these

> > > > > > > days,

> > > > > > > > > > > > barring in books on Gems written mostly by Jewelers and

> > > > they do

> > > > > > > > > have a

> > > > > > > > > > > > bias do they not?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/2010 4:26 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gemstone used as tantrik remedies do have their merit

> > but

> > > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > > > > not as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > easy as getting a gemstone of a certain size and

> > quality

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > > > > mail-order

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or from a shop and beginning to wear it! That is the

> > way

> > > > > > > in which

> > > > > > > > > > > most

> > > > > > > > > > > > > people use those these days and then wonder why they

> > are

> > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > becoming

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rich overnight or getting married within a week!

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a positive aspect to that too, though. At

> > least

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > gemstone

> > > > > > > > > > > > > though expensive represents an investment and

> > generally

> > > > > > > does not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > decline in market value! Compared to certain other

> > > > > > > remedies ;-)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It does have its merit, but rarely used in the way

> > it

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > > meant to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > be as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > no classics mention how to use them. One will have

> > to

> > > > > > > read other

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shastras to find out how to use them, but in these

> > days

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > fast food

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture, who has the time?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/12/2010 4:02 AM, rohinicrystal wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The entire gemstone-fixes- all-woes is relatively

> > a

> > > > > > > pretty new

> > > > > > > > > > > craze,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you ask me! As are several other so called

> > > > 'remedies'!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com>,

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <sharma.chandrashek har@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Naina,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you give the quote and the book in which

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > > > given? I

> > > > > > > > > > > > > have not

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seen any such reference in the ancient texts,

> > so

> > > > > > > this must

> > > > > > > > > > > be some

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modern book that you are referring to. So I am

> > > > > > > curious to

> > > > > > > > > > > know the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > source.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/2010 6:50 AM, naina wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear all

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have bought a yellow sapphire... i looked

> > up

> > > > > > > everything

> > > > > > > > > > > before i

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bought it like colour, shape transpanrecy etc

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however i have just been researching and come

> > > > across

> > > > > > > > > > that you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not buy a yellow sapphire of 6, 11 or 15

> > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my sapphire is 5.75carrats which i beleive is

> > > > > > > equal to

> > > > > > > > > 6.32

> > > > > > > > > > > > > rattis.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this ok? why should a sapphire of 6rattis

> > be

> > > > > > > avoided?

> > > > > > > > > > is it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything to worry about ?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > naina

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

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