Fw: Birthtime of Swami Vivekananda 11/02

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Utkal/lalit

 

pl read the lines carefully

 

..../// it shows 2 pages with the wonderful swami with the

deep chin-dimple and large eyes, sine-qua-nons almost of venus in

ascendant and Capricorn (even when it exists in navamsha!).. ...//

 

 

RRji felt even a Makara Navamsa can give such features as he has given the local

time a lot of importance here as well like others

 

for the record try

FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES IN ASTROLOGY By M RAMAKRISHNA BHATT

MLBDG will give u features, complexion etc based on D9 of Lagna/chandra.

 

MERELY HARPING ON A SELECTIVE or convenient line won't help and above all ppl

like raman ji would have examined all these. there r cases where he differed

with establised ones and has explained why he differed with a lot of

explaination

 

but they had lived a far better life than us in the company of many enlightened

souls, good background inthe vedic tradition, shastras unlike any make belive or

self proclaiming ppl. all that we have is respect for the ppl said above u cud

have also earned some of them but for ur single minded goal of denigration all

works of rishies, past great astrologers and the present ones, ur hatred

starting with the mud slinging campaign over Pt. r dakshinamurthy ji has just

swelled to include many as they keep increasing....

Pt Rd may have some faults but was surely well read, good in his work. apart

from what u disliked so r all the paid astrologers been targeted alike but he

had more knowledge , next we can find PV Narshima rao ji who has added this to

his repertoire.

 

 

most of them r humble, simple ppl

 

 

G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi

 

Thu, February 11, 2010 1:50:47 AM

Re: Fw: Birthtime of Swami Vivekananda

 

 

 

Rohini Ji,

 

Thanks for making the astro world aware of Swami Ji's birth time which

is 6.49 am, It's given in several books published by Sri RamKrishna

Mission.

 

Earlier, you gave only ISBN no of the book, therefore, I had difficulty

in locating it,, but today after speaking to an authority of Sri

Ramkrishna Mission collected other books giving light on Swami

Vivekananda' s birth time, in the mean time, you already uploaded scanned

copy.

 

When, I first looked at Swami Ji's dhanu lagna chart, I found abysmal

gap between his life and his chart, I had no supportive document to

uphold my understanding, but, divine urge kept me moving in right

direction and within a short span of time I have more then sufficient

documents.

 

It's strange that so called astro scholars ignored the fact of Swami

ji's life and kept drumming at dhanu lagna, these guy's don't do self

study and begin teaching to others.

 

I will be writing in detail on Swami Ji's life and birth time on

thursday evening.

 

regards,

Utkal.

 

, " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

> This forum, obviously due to space constraints, cannot allow higher

resolution scans to be accepted by the files area. So I uploaded a lower

res scan because the first ones bounced back.

>

> What looks like a 19 in the birthminutes is 49. I am not going to

waste my time in rescanning! If you want a higher res scan (~1.5-2MB)

please send private email using the forum email send-mail option and I

will send it to you (it shows 2 pages with the wonderful swami with the

deep chin-dimple and large eyes, sine-qua-nons almost of venus in

ascendant and capricorn (even when it exists in navamsha!).. .)

>

> , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@

wrote:

> >

> > Greetings!

> >

> > I have a book titled: Vivekanda The Yoga and Other Works, Chosen and

with a biography by Swami Nikhilananda Published by the

Ramakrishna- Vivekananda Center, New York, ISBN-0-911206- 04-3, pub.

September 11, 1953 (interesting date!), 3rd printing 1984.

> >

> > Unless the publishers decided to 'doctor' the data, not sure why

they would -- and I purchase this book from an authentic Ramakrishna

Ashram

> > outlet, I would tend to believe this! A scan of the relevant page is

being uploaded to the files area. Please arrive at your own conclusion!

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Members

> > >

> > > here is a reply from true scholar, with more detail on what we

have been saying

> > >

> > > that B V RAMAN ji, KN RAO ji and rishies who lived, practiced the

vedic way of life with more dedication, devotion than us for decades if

not more and surely their care, helping nature would have added more

intuition from the DIVINE than a mere claimant to it with so much vanity

than vidya

> > >

> > > if he progresses we surely will compliment him but is rather going

down the PATHALA route.

> > >

> > > we wish him well still. hope his mother guides him here..

> > >

> > >

> > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > >

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow \

s & tbl=6

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@>

> > > kn_rao@; Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@>; Deepak

Bisaria <deepakbisaria@ >; Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> ; Lalit Mishra

<mishra.lalit@ >; knrastro@; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr108@>

> > > Cc: jyotishi55@; aavesh t <aavesh_s@>; Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti@>;

praspandey@; Ajitkumar Benadi <ajitbenadi@ >

> > > Tue, February 9, 2010 12:38:16 AM

> > > Re: Birthtime of Swami Vivekananda

> > >

> > > Namaste Lalit and others,

> > >

> > > Of course, I am aware of Swami Chetanananda' s book ( " God Lived

With Them: Life Stories of Sixteen Monastic Disciples of Sri

Ramakrishna " ). I was gratefully using some valuable data in that book

for an interesting Jyotish research.

> > >

> > > However, a more authentic source for Swami Vivekananda' s birthtime

is his biography ( " Biography of Swami Vivekananda " by Swami

Nikhilananda) . That is a more authentic and exhaustive work. That book

clearly gives 6:33 am and says " a few minutes before sunrise " .

> > >

> > > Also, looking at Swamiji's picture, I am amazed that someone

actually thinks he is Makara lagna instead of Dhanus. This is plain

common sense to me.

> > >

> > > Ever since you first speculated that Swamiji had Makara lagna and

not Dhanurlagna, you sent so many mails on that matter. Often an

obsessed and egoistic mind cannot find truth.

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > > None of you have done mantra sadhana, none of you had

> > > > got God's vision, I got it, listen to me what I am

> > > > appealing to you.

> > >

> > > Message 3651 on may be of interest to

those who wonder whether a claimed " vision " of a deity can be a

hallucination and what really distinguishes the two and what is the goal

of spiritual sadhana. A few mails referred within that mail cover topics

related to visions.

> > >

> > > http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom/message/ 3651

> > >

> > > I know a yogi who has experienced god. There is so much difference

between the way Lalit carries himself and that yogi does. Message 3481

of gives a small account of a few of my

experiences with that yogi, which proved some things to me:

> > >

> > > http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom/message/ 3481

> > >

> > > * * *

> > >

> > > I've been learning Jyotish for 31 years. I've been working very

hard on Jyotish for the last 17 years. I am a reasonably intelligent

person who went to an IIT. I have good knowledge of Sanskrit and I can

understand Sanskrit prose and poetry almost like a mother tongue. Yet,

it is only in the last 3-4 years that I am slowly finding my bearings in

this knowledge of rishis.

> > >

> > > Given your experience and given the depth and breadth of knowledge

I see in your writings, I am quite amazed by the pride, arrogance and

self-importance you exhibit in your mails. My friend, vidyaa dadaati

vinayam!

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > > Narasimha

> > >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,

> > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

> > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> > > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFilms.org

> > > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom

> > > Jyotish writings: http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings

> > >

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ >

> > > > Divine Revealation : Swami Vivekananda' s Birth Time &

Lagna !!

> > > > " Deepak Bisaria " <deepakbisaria@ >, knrastro@, kn_rao@,

" Prashant Kumar G B " <gbp_kumar@> , " Chandrashekhar "

<sharma.chandrashek har@>, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr108@>, " Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > > Cc: " aavesh t " <aavesh_s@>, jyotishi55@, " Ajitkumar Benadi "

<ajitbenadi@ >, praspandey@, " Mee Shuba Vela " <pkgoteti@>

> > > > Saturday, February 6, 2010, 1:38 PM

> > > > It's a day that

> > > > Jyotish world should always remember, people should know

> > > > that God not only helped me but approved my effort for

> > > > finding out right lagna and birth time of Swami Vivekananda,

> > > > Swami Vivekananda was born with Makar Lagna only.

> > > >

> > > > This was third time,I visited

> > > > Intenational Book Fair held at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi, I

> > > > was going to Hall no 12 in search of Sripati's

> > > > Manuscript of his work on Nakschatras but happen to visit

> > > > another hall, there I met a Sanyasi of Sri RamKrishna Math,

> > > > they were also having a stall, I purchased a biography of

> > > > Swami Rangnathananda on the condition that theyh will

> > > > provide me birth time of Swami Ranganathanada, The sanyasi

> > > > got agreed as well as curious why I m putting such a

> > > > condition, I told him about confusion of Jyotish world and

> > > > my effort, he jumped up with a sudden excitement saying -

> > > > It's known, It's known and published by Sri

> > > > RamKishna Manth in the biography of direct desciples of

> > > > Thakur Ramkrishna Paramhansha.

> > > >

> > > > Animately, he brought out the book, I

> > > > saw it printed - Swami Vivekanada was born on 6.49 am,

> > > > Calcutta, Now you people can take any time of your choice -

> > > > Local or IST, you w'd get Makar Lagna lagna only, I

> > > > w'd humbly request to all of you to be honest and

> > > > couragious to spread availability of this correct birth time

> > > > to your followers.

> > > >

> > > > The great divine mother has finally

> > > > taken me to find truth for the rest of jyotish world, a hath

> > > > dharmi narrow minded world.

> > > > When God is with a person, he can

> > > > face the whole world and conquer it, and it's shown to

> > > > you people. Hope PV Narsimha and SJC, BVB, ICAS all w'd

> > > > correct themselves however they are free at their

> > > > end.

> > > >

> > > > It's said that - " Jin

> > > > Khoja Tin Paiya, Gahre Pani Paith, Mai Bairan Pyasi Rah

> > > > Gayee, Rahi Kinare Baith " .

> > > >

> > > > None of you have done mantra sadhana, none of you had

> > > > got God's vision, I got it, listen to me what I am

> > > > appealing to you.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >