Fw: Birthtime of Swami Vivekananda 12/2

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Dear RRji

 

a v good message esp the Island with crumbling edges.

well here only one point must be stated where so called divine intervention is

coming how does astrological rules apply if the mother is giving him the

directions which we r not getting it is a uneven ground in the first place and

NO RULES, SLOKAS from GRANTHAS OF JYOTISHYA APPLY ISN'T IT.

 

 

thanks

 

Prashant

 

- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Fri, February 12, 2010 7:21:08 AM

Re: Fw: Birthtime of Swami Vivekananda

 

 

Dear Lalit,

 

Truth be told, I am getting pretty sick and tired of all these " cat-fights " and

'dog-brawls' that are going on in the domain of Jyotish by individuals who think

they are serving Jyotish.

 

Without mincing words, THIS 'Astro-world' you talk of in some kind of

'Mandir-Bhakti mode' is not so much interested in exploring truth as it is in

petty fights and one-upmanship!

 

Please leave me out of all these puny political GAMES! Those who wish to serve

Jyotish -- must stop hoisting their puny petards and realize that IT is not

about them or the tiny segment of the human society that reads them or about

them. We all know how that DRAMA plays out in these Internet woods, don't we

all?

 

I have always found Jyotish as a very small island that is crumbling at its

edges! If we continue to fight one another and create more dissension for our

own egotistical purposes, the crumbling edges of this very small island will

just continue to crumble and it would not even take a Tsunami to decimate it and

make it vanish into the ocean of scepticism and ignorance!

 

A house divided makes enemies out of brothers and friends. Friends, please

remember are really brothers born to other mothers!

 

The fragile fingers fighting one another can only show their strength when they

come together in the form of a fist!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@

....> wrote:

>

>

> Rohini Ji,

>

> Thanks for making the astro world aware of Swami Ji's birth time which

> is 6.49 am, It's given in several books published by Sri RamKrishna

> Mission.

>

> Earlier, you gave only ISBN no of the book, therefore, I had difficulty

> in locating it,, but today after speaking to an authority of Sri

> Ramkrishna Mission collected other books giving light on Swami

> Vivekananda' s birth time, in the mean time, you already uploaded scanned

> copy.

>

> When, I first looked at Swami Ji's dhanu lagna chart, I found abysmal

> gap between his life and his chart, I had no supportive document to

> uphold my understanding, but, divine urge kept me moving in right

> direction and within a short span of time I have more then sufficient

> documents.

>

> It's strange that so called astro scholars ignored the fact of Swami

> ji's life and kept drumming at dhanu lagna, these guy's don't do self

> study and begin teaching to others.

>

> I will be writing in detail on Swami Ji's life and birth time on

> thursday evening.

>

> regards,

> Utkal.

>

>

, " rohinicrystal "

> <jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> >

> > This forum, obviously due to space constraints, cannot allow higher

> resolution scans to be accepted by the files area. So I uploaded a lower

> res scan because the first ones bounced back.

> >

> > What looks like a 19 in the birthminutes is 49. I am not going to

> waste my time in rescanning! If you want a higher res scan (~1.5-2MB)

> please send private email using the forum email send-mail option and I

> will send it to you (it shows 2 pages with the wonderful swami with the

> deep chin-dimple and large eyes, sine-qua-nons almost of venus in

> ascendant and capricorn (even when it exists in navamsha!).. .)

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal " jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Greetings!

> > >

> > > I have a book titled: Vivekanda The Yoga and Other Works, Chosen and

> with a biography by Swami Nikhilananda Published by the

> Ramakrishna- Vivekananda Center, New York, ISBN-0-911206- 04-3, pub.

> September 11, 1953 (interesting date!), 3rd printing 1984.

> > >

> > > Unless the publishers decided to 'doctor' the data, not sure why

> they would -- and I purchase this book from an authentic Ramakrishna

> Ashram

> > > outlet, I would tend to believe this! A scan of the relevant page is

> being uploaded to the files area. Please arrive at your own conclusion!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members

> > > >

> > > > here is a reply from true scholar, with more detail on what we

> have been saying

> > > >

> > > > that B V RAMAN ji, KN RAO ji and rishies who lived, practiced the

> vedic way of life with more dedication, devotion than us for decades if

> not more and surely their care, helping nature would have added more

> intuition from the DIVINE than a mere claimant to it with so much vanity

> than vidya

> > > >

> > > > if he progresses we surely will compliment him but is rather going

> down the PATHALA route.

> > > >

> > > > we wish him well still. hope his mother guides him here..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > > >

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----

> > > > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr@>

> > > > kn_rao@; Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@>; Deepak

> Bisaria <deepakbisaria@ >; Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> ; Lalit Mishra

> <mishra.lalit@ >; knrastro@; Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr108@>

> > > > Cc: jyotishi55@; aavesh t <aavesh_s@>; Mee Shuba Vela <pkgoteti@>;

> praspandey@; Ajitkumar Benadi <ajitbenadi@ >

> > > > Tue, February 9, 2010 12:38:16 AM

> > > > Re: Birthtime of Swami Vivekananda

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Lalit and others,

> > > >

> > > > Of course, I am aware of Swami Chetanananda' s book ( " God Lived

> With Them: Life Stories of Sixteen Monastic Disciples of Sri

> Ramakrishna " ). I was gratefully using some valuable data in that book

> for an interesting Jyotish research.

> > > >

> > > > However, a more authentic source for Swami Vivekananda' s birthtime

> is his biography ( " Biography of Swami Vivekananda " by Swami

> Nikhilananda) . That is a more authentic and exhaustive work. That book

> clearly gives 6:33 am and says " a few minutes before sunrise " .

> > > >

> > > > Also, looking at Swamiji's picture, I am amazed that someone

> actually thinks he is Makara lagna instead of Dhanus. This is plain

> common sense to me.

> > > >

> > > > Ever since you first speculated that Swamiji had Makara lagna and

> not Dhanurlagna, you sent so many mails on that matter. Often an

> obsessed and egoistic mind cannot find truth.

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > > None of you have done mantra sadhana, none of you had

> > > > > got God's vision, I got it, listen to me what I am

> > > > > appealing to you.

> > > >

> > > > Message 3651 on may be of interest to

> those who wonder whether a claimed " vision " of a deity can be a

> hallucination and what really distinguishes the two and what is the goal

> of spiritual sadhana. A few mails referred within that mail cover topics

> related to visions.

> > > >

> > > > http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom/message/ 3651

> > > >

> > > > I know a yogi who has experienced god. There is so much difference

> between the way Lalit carries himself and that yogi does. Message 3481

> of gives a small account of a few of my

> experiences with that yogi, which proved some things to me:

> > > >

> > > > http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom/message/ 3481

> > > >

> > > > * * *

> > > >

> > > > I've been learning Jyotish for 31 years. I've been working very

> hard on Jyotish for the last 17 years. I am a reasonably intelligent

> person who went to an IIT. I have good knowledge of Sanskrit and I can

> understand Sanskrit prose and poetry almost like a mother tongue. Yet,

> it is only in the last 3-4 years that I am slowly finding my bearings in

> this knowledge of rishis.

> > > >

> > > > Given your experience and given the depth and breadth of knowledge

> I see in your writings, I am quite amazed by the pride, arrogance and

> self-importance you exhibit in your mails. My friend, vidyaa dadaati

> vinayam!

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > Narasimha

> > > >

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> > > > " Do It Yourself " ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:

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> > > > Jyotish writings: http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings

> > > >

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> > > >

> > > > --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Lalit Mishra <mishra.lalit@ >

> > > > > Divine Revealation : Swami Vivekananda' s Birth Time &

> Lagna !!

> > > > > " Deepak Bisaria " <deepakbisaria@ >, knrastro@, kn_rao@,

> " Prashant Kumar G B " <gbp_kumar@> , " Chandrashekhar "

> <sharma.chandrashek har@>, " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " <pvr108@>, " Narasimha

> P.V.R. Rao " <pvr@>

> > > > > Cc: " aavesh t " <aavesh_s@>, jyotishi55@, " Ajitkumar Benadi "

> <ajitbenadi@ >, praspandey@, " Mee Shuba Vela " <pkgoteti@>

> > > > > Saturday, February 6, 2010, 1:38 PM

> > > > > It's a day that

> > > > > Jyotish world should always remember, people should know

> > > > > that God not only helped me but approved my effort for

> > > > > finding out right lagna and birth time of Swami Vivekananda,

> > > > > Swami Vivekananda was born with Makar Lagna only.

> > > > >

> > > > > This was third time,I visited

> > > > > Intenational Book Fair held at Pragati Maidan, New Delhi, I

> > > > > was going to Hall no 12 in search of Sripati's

> > > > > Manuscript of his work on Nakschatras but happen to visit

> > > > > another hall, there I met a Sanyasi of Sri RamKrishna Math,

> > > > > they were also having a stall, I purchased a biography of

> > > > > Swami Rangnathananda on the condition that theyh will

> > > > > provide me birth time of Swami Ranganathanada, The sanyasi

> > > > > got agreed as well as curious why I m putting such a

> > > > > condition, I told him about confusion of Jyotish world and

> > > > > my effort, he jumped up with a sudden excitement saying -

> > > > > It's known, It's known and published by Sri

> > > > > RamKishna Manth in the biography of direct desciples of

> > > > > Thakur Ramkrishna Paramhansha.

> > > > >

> > > > > Animately, he brought out the book, I

> > > > > saw it printed - Swami Vivekanada was born on 6.49 am,

> > > > > Calcutta, Now you people can take any time of your choice -

> > > > > Local or IST, you w'd get Makar Lagna lagna only, I

> > > > > w'd humbly request to all of you to be honest and

> > > > > couragious to spread availability of this correct birth time

> > > > > to your followers.

> > > > >

> > > > > The great divine mother has finally

> > > > > taken me to find truth for the rest of jyotish world, a hath

> > > > > dharmi narrow minded world.

> > > > > When God is with a person, he can

> > > > > face the whole world and conquer it, and it's shown to

> > > > > you people. Hope PV Narsimha and SJC, BVB, ICAS all w'd

> > > > > correct themselves however they are free at their

> > > > > end.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's said that - " Jin

> > > > > Khoja Tin Paiya, Gahre Pani Paith, Mai Bairan Pyasi Rah

> > > > > Gayee, Rahi Kinare Baith " .

> > > > >

> > > > > None of you have done mantra sadhana, none of you had

> > > > > got God's vision, I got it, listen to me what I am

> > > > > appealing to you.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Lalit Mishra.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >