Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Sir, In this thread we are certainly highlighting the values as existed once and now the transformation now taking place for various reason. For the society to flourish,the contribution of both genders are most necessary and essential too.Stree is abala,once needed a body guard.Now may be this kind of view is now not cherishes with increased confidence of women and their ability to make a slow and steady progress. we know that she takes all care at home to keep things tidy and takes up the responsibility to rear children.This emotional aspect of life,should in a way give her confidence and with her present days initiative to earn also,the economic freedom too is gained. The gender difference and the fight for equality by raising voice may some extent might give moral boost.yet as the society is further advancing with modern technology,the socila roles too need a change.But any change is a conscious attempt of the partners of life.Ultimately it is respecting our values,culture and safeguarding traditions.By joining the sheep no doubt some unknown feeling of security might be gaines as it is a " flock " The real security as a basic needed needs to be fulfilled and this can be gained by effort and determination.To some extent change in dress codes and casual outlook with involvement in all affairs of life is the only answer. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 2/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Origins of Vedic Astrology! 26/2 Friday, February 26, 2010, 5:42 PM  If I may offer my chawannee, Prashant jee, even in the west most women still are fighting for equal rights and there is still quite a bit of bias against them. Even voting rights came to them fairly late (suffrage). The life of modern men and women is far more stressful than what used to be in earlier generations, but there was a lot of 'social' conditioning that was going on too which kept the outer appearances of families etc looking spic and span and shiny while tears rolled silently within. Of course there have always been exceptions but like the french say, let us return to our sheep! Rohiniranjan , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Lilly > > well womans LIB is not a liberator in real sense, but pushed many into deeper physical, emotional turmoil, broken homes, broken hearts, broken finances as well. there must be some balance restored in these so called gains and actual losses. women did enjoy more and also did suffer in many cultures but u can see more of such good literarly, scholarly, art, excellences, performances , scholarship in the Indian context, in the post invader driven attrocities there were hardships, curbs placed on them due to forrced abduction of them from their homes or palaces, the rajputs, have clearly shown the broader picture of ether en mass sucides or individual ones or worse enslaved. > > most women irrespective of how well or bad they were treated they were walking banks for the families, they had enough assets on them be it jewelry or medicine, some art/craft, cottage industries too if they had early widowhood etc. not all was rosy but the thorns r part of roses...! > > in the west most nations enjoyed real power v late, and those who did were tyranical unlike feminine nature. u associate with in literature only > > > > G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 8:00:09 AM > Re: Origins of Vedic Astrology! 26/2 > > > > True, that our mothers are definitely our first guru, for most of us! But, you can't deny the fact that ratio favors the males over females not just in joytisha, but pretty much all across board with so many other professions. ..Thanks to woman's liberation/movement we have made some progress in the past 50 years..Still, we have a long way to go before we can catch up and even out! > > Lilly > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > Lilly, > > > > this is totally wrong to say there r no women, most women jnew and they r the 1st Gurus to their children even in my case mother had been the source of my initial quests in the subject as she after a point said u r a kid need not know more only pushed me into this, sure many will say this > > > > KN RAO ji has also said his mother was his 1st guru > > Gayathri devi vasudev is one of the best in the subject and a long co-editor of Astrological Magazine run during her father's time and later with her brothers now on on her own chief editor MODERN ASTROLOGY, Mridula trivedi fromLucknow is one more tall person from the North. u have some from US, ul INDIAN AND WESTERN ORIGIN Wendy, Uttara of Jyotish Vidya group Neluv Jayalakshmi of KP school a direct disciple of KP [KM] there r plenty it is not easy to recall all names it isa s short reply > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:41:51 AM > > Re: Origins of Vedic Astrology! > > > > > > It's good to know you could come up with at least one name for a group of people who only make up roughly 50% of our population! > > So proud to belong to this group..So do you think women generally have weak Sun, 10th house, or they just don't have the planetary combination to make a world renounced astrologer? > > They keep saying Bharat Mata has come a long ways in these post 50 years of Independence. .So where are all these Bharat and vedishi shaktiya hiding? > > > > Lilly > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > KN Saraswathy! > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmmm...Don't really know if they made any contribution to this subject of Joytisha? > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > how about women :-) ? > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much for your beautiful post, Rakesh Ji..This goes to shows that our mind and spirit has tremendous power, which humans of this day and age can't compare, even with all this technology! > > > > > > IMO, the men from your past where truly far more intelligent than the men of today! OLD is really GOLD in this case! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar <rakesh_771119@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > Your question is very authentic just a person who has listen about the internet technology but he has no practical knowledge or experience in such technology or like such sciences.I am also not capable to give you the correct answer but I can try to lead you near to the answer of your question.You have a question mark about the knowledge capacity of our Indian Rishis before Kalyuga and not availability of any relevant document about the forecasting about next yuga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have Four Vedas script which has no evidence of the hand written document like today.The major fact behind this theory is that in past yuga the they were spiritually so advance that they were not in need need of paper and pen.Just we go twenty years back of today we were also so dependent on paper and pen for even a single information to our relative or friend but today we have computer to solve the problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Our Rishis were quite aware about the future therefore Maharishi Ved Vyas compiled the whole knowledge from Satyug to dwapar yug in his mental hard disc through meditational process.There is no relevant example of such type of spiritually developed personally to day there fore we are not capable to understand the facts.When we go to listen our ancient literature there no body who has a command upon such knowledge.Even Shri Krishna who remain till 5000 to 6000 years back,whose saying to Arjuna is compiled but no body is capable to understand the truth behind it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you must follow my point that your question is so authentic but there is no conventional process to follow the answer.Every thing in ancient astrology is very true but there is a big lake of right interpreter today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With best regards, > > > > > > > Rakesh kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Dear Lilly Ji, Your message regarding need of awakening the " Shiv Shakti " among the women of today is very inspiring but you must read out or try to go in the depth of that shiv shakti which is not lies only in women but in men also .The method of awakening is not so easy and it could not be learned from the books only. This process is called " HathYoga " .Some very experienced guru of hath yoga is only become the source to learn such type of yoga sciences.May god bless you with the strength and wisdom to generate such type of intelligent questions. Regards, Rakesh Kumar  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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