Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > Re: snake in dream > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > >  > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Rohini ji, You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM citation! As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > Re: snake in dream > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > >  > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Shenoy dada! I did say, " Please do not take it personally! " So no need to EXPLAIN! You are not bearing the CROSS all the way to the ALTAR! As far as I am concerned, you must never feel the need to explain or feel that you are being questioned! :-) REALITY: The questions will always be personal and the answers that arrive shall NEVER be universal! Hence the MAYA of Jyotish...! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. > > To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. > > I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. > > I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM > citation! > > > As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! > > It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! > > SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! > > Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'‚ will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Sir " Book Marks " too often of immense Use provided we date them first to gain. Of course some pain.Not that sore! Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: citation! Monday, March 1, 2010, 1:04 AM  Rohini ji, You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM citation! As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > Re: snake in dream > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > >  > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Sirwith subjective clause that not in the Internet media?REALITY: The questions will always be personal and the answers that arrive shall NEVER be universal!why not our moderator allow us some blogs individually in JR?This obviates the problems.I agree with it but feel helplesss too Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Mon, 3/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: citation! Monday, March 1, 2010, 1:32 AM  Shenoy dada! I did say, " Please do not take it personally! " So no need to EXPLAIN! You are not bearing the CROSS all the way to the ALTAR! As far as I am concerned, you must never feel the need to explain or feel that you are being questioned! :-) REALITY: The questions will always be personal and the answers that arrive shall NEVER be universal! Hence the MAYA of Jyotish...! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. > > To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. > > I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. > > I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM > citation! > > > As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! > > It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! > > SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! > > Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'‚ will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 rohini ji, I never took it as a personal remark, rather it gave an opportunity to clearly write about the learning - " vidhyaarthee " . I am aware that you only meant well. However, I do not understand why you keep addressing me as " dada " . You may not be aware that in my region " dada " is referred to a goon - a local bully. When I see that word alongside my name, I wonder..... A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Mon, March 1, 2010 12:02:10 PM Re: citation! Shenoy dada! I did say, " Please do not take it personally! " So no need to EXPLAIN! You are not bearing the CROSS all the way to the ALTAR! As far as I am concerned, you must never feel the need to explain or feel that you are being questioned! :-) REALITY: The questions will always be personal and the answers that arrive shall NEVER be universal! Hence the MAYA of Jyotish...! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. > > To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. > > I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. > > I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM > citation! > > > As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! > > It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! > > SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! > > Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'‚ will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 In my region where I grew up too! Maybe I am returning to my roots! :-) I originate from what now is named, BanglaDesh! Dada is still revered in those cultures - eastern! I hope? RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > rohini ji, I never took it as a personal remark, rather it gave an opportunity to clearly write about the learning - " vidhyaarthee " . > > I am aware that you only meant well. > > However, I do not understand why you keep addressing me as " dada " . You may not be aware that in my region " dada " is referred to a goon - a local bully. > > When I see that word alongside my name, I wonder..... > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Mon, March 1, 2010 12:02:10 PM > Re: citation! > > > Shenoy dada! > > I did say, " Please do not take it personally! " > > So no need to EXPLAIN! You are not bearing the CROSS all the way to the ALTAR! > > As far as I am concerned, you must never feel the need to explain or feel that you are being questioned! :-) > > REALITY: The questions will always be personal and the answers that arrive shall NEVER be universal! > > Hence the MAYA of Jyotish...! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. > > > > To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. > > > > I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. > > > > I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM > > citation! > > > > > > As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! > > > > It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! > > > > SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! > > > > Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > > > > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > > > > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > > > > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > > > > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > > > > > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > > > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > > > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > > > > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'Æ'‚ will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Dada is a respectable word like Bhau as elder brother or as bhai Ji This made me to check Chmber dictionary.It is go-on.In coloquial ways people may say/refer to a person elder but not humble but might poke around? Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Mon, 3/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: citation! Monday, March 1, 2010, 1:46 AM  In my region where I grew up too! Maybe I am returning to my roots! :-) I originate from what now is named, BanglaDesh! Dada is still revered in those cultures - eastern! I hope? RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > rohini ji, I never took it as a personal remark, rather it gave an opportunity to clearly write about the learning - " vidhyaarthee " . > > I am aware that you only meant well. > > However, I do not understand why you keep addressing me as " dada " . You may not be aware that in my region " dada " is referred to a goon - a local bully. > > When I see that word alongside my name, I wonder..... > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Mon, March 1, 2010 12:02:10 PM > Re: citation! > > > Shenoy dada! > > I did say, " Please do not take it personally! " > > So no need to EXPLAIN! You are not bearing the CROSS all the way to the ALTAR! > > As far as I am concerned, you must never feel the need to explain or feel that you are being questioned! :-) > > REALITY: The questions will always be personal and the answers that arrive shall NEVER be universal! > > Hence the MAYA of Jyotish...! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > You are right. But you also must be aware by now that I do not write on anything that is not in concurrence with the logic in classical works. > > > > To quote the classical works is a tedious task & shall run in pages. Let the interested parties take pain to study those. No pain - No gain. > > > > I have only clarified a certain remark by the member who may not have given much importance to these studies so far or did not find enough material to rouse his curiosity. > > > > I have already given the name one classical text and the wider implication as stated in classical, rest is up to the curious mind to find out. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 10:52:33 AM > > citation! > > > > > > As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_ jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! > > > > It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! > > > > SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! > > > > Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > > > > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > > > > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > > > > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > > > > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > > > > > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > > > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > > > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > > > > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'Æ'‚ will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\ ƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\ ƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Dear Rohini Ranjan, I tend to agree that 12th bhava could be considered for Dreams. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - rohinicrystal Monday, March 01, 2010 10:52 AM citation! As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Rohini ji, > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > Re: snake in dream > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling Ãfâ?s will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Ãfâ?s > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 And I shall take your word for it, Sir :-) RR_, , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > I tend to agree that 12th bhava could be considered for Dreams. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > - > rohinicrystal > > Monday, March 01, 2010 10:52 AM > citation! > > > > As far as classics and scriptures go, Shenoy Dada, our dear Chandrashekhar_jee had a few questions regarding scriptural claims made earlier in Jyotish Domains! Not sure if those were ever answered satisfactorily! > > It is pointless to claim that something was stated in scriptures or classics without providing the entire NINE YARDS known as full citation! > > SCIENTISTS are required to comply with that norm or else they will not be taken seriously! If WE jyotishis claim our CRAFT to be taken seriously, we must be watchful about that before we glibly claim Jyotish to be a science! > > Just a general statement -- please do not take this personally! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Rohini ji, > > > > 12th house is called " shayana " which has wider implication than " sleep " alone. It is everything that is related with sleep including dreams. > > > > As for the 4th house from 12th, this depends on how the prasna was put. > > > > If the prashna is regarding the person as a whole (which normally is the case & should be), the 12th should be considered & 4th from is also considered since 4th is the mana sthana. However if the prashna is regarding the dream specifically, Lagna & 4th from should be considered. This does not in any way mean that only these signs need be looked at. In fact all the signs/ planets relationship need be considered but focused on these signs. > > > > I am not very sure of the 5th house you had mentioned. > > > > Classics have classified dreams into 7 categories and 5 types has been stated to be irrelevant. They have linked planets, illness etc with various types of dreams. > > > > > > Later Homeopathy also mentions dreams as symptoms of various medicines. I have seen my younger sister (a homeopath) asking patients about their dreams. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> > > > > Mon, March 1, 2010 8:00:48 AM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Why the 12th house, Shenoy_ji? :-) > > I thought the 12th was about SLEEP and its quality. > > I have heard that the 4th and 5th from the 12th hold the kunjees to dreams which are the products of sleep and the milieu in which dreams find their home! > > > > Sorry -- no scriptural evidence for that! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in Particular. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait for your teaching. > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling Ãfâ?s will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > Ãfâ?s > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃfÆ'ââ,¬Å¡Ãfâ?s > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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