Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Of all the industries, the automotive industry has recently been the target of some curse, one would say. Governments (USA primarily) had to pump in millions and billions of dollars to keep General Motors afloat or there would have been surely bankruptcy. Interestingly, Ford was doing fine and even profitable. Then we heard of the MASSIVE Toyota recalls of several models which was rather amazing, given the FAME and quality of Toyota cars. And there was yet another problem (after the floor mats, accidental accelration, the software glitches which caused brake mal-functioning and accidents in Prius, and now the leaking hoses! As if that were not all, this morning heard about GM having to recall some of the chevrolet models! Why is this occurring? Someone was saying that the long stay of mars in neecha and current retrogression is responsible. However the Auto bankruptcy was seen more when jupiter was debilitated (began and got resolved back then) and now mars in cancer affection the 'motor' of modern society! If indeed mars is responsible (as some would claim...) then out goes the neecha vakri = uccha-sama MYTH, I suppose! Maybe the CEO of GM and Akiyo Toyota should begin fasting seriously on Tuesday and stop producing coral red models and change the colours of the brake light from red to deep blue (??) and while they are at it, get the navagraha pooja done, just in case ...! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Dear Rohini Ranjan, Perhaps it is better to concentrate on individual company's charts as some Auto companies also posted profits. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - rohinicrystal Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:22 PM Why the automotive industry in clusters...? Of all the industries, the automotive industry has recently been the target of some curse, one would say. Governments (USA primarily) had to pump in millions and billions of dollars to keep General Motors afloat or there would have been surely bankruptcy. Interestingly, Ford was doing fine and even profitable. Then we heard of the MASSIVE Toyota recalls of several models which was rather amazing, given the FAME and quality of Toyota cars. And there was yet another problem (after the floor mats, accidental accelration, the software glitches which caused brake mal-functioning and accidents in Prius, and now the leaking hoses! As if that were not all, this morning heard about GM having to recall some of the chevrolet models! Why is this occurring? Someone was saying that the long stay of mars in neecha and current retrogression is responsible. However the Auto bankruptcy was seen more when jupiter was debilitated (began and got resolved back then) and now mars in cancer affection the 'motor' of modern society! If indeed mars is responsible (as some would claim...) then out goes the neecha vakri = uccha-sama MYTH, I suppose! Maybe the CEO of GM and Akiyo Toyota should begin fasting seriously on Tuesday and stop producing coral red models and change the colours of the brake light from red to deep blue (??) and while they are at it, get the navagraha pooja done, just in case ...! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Perhaps...! :-) , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > Perhaps it is better to concentrate on individual company's charts as some Auto companies also posted profits. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > - > rohinicrystal > > Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:22 PM > Why the automotive industry in clusters...? > > > > Of all the industries, the automotive industry has recently been the target of some curse, one would say. Governments (USA primarily) had to pump in millions and billions of dollars to keep General Motors afloat or there would have been surely bankruptcy. Interestingly, Ford was doing fine and even profitable. > > Then we heard of the MASSIVE Toyota recalls of several models which was rather amazing, given the FAME and quality of Toyota cars. And there was yet another problem (after the floor mats, accidental accelration, the software glitches which caused brake mal-functioning and accidents in Prius, and now the leaking hoses! > > As if that were not all, this morning heard about GM having to recall some of the chevrolet models! > > Why is this occurring? Someone was saying that the long stay of mars in neecha and current retrogression is responsible. However the Auto bankruptcy was seen more when jupiter was debilitated (began and got resolved back then) and now mars in cancer affection the 'motor' of modern society! > > If indeed mars is responsible (as some would claim...) then out goes the neecha vakri = uccha-sama MYTH, I suppose! > > Maybe the CEO of GM and Akiyo Toyota should begin fasting seriously on Tuesday and stop producing coral red models and change the colours of the brake light from red to deep blue (??) and while they are at it, get the navagraha pooja done, just in case ...! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Rohini ji, I suppose, when you mentioned Mars, you were considering Cancer sign being 4th from Mesha & hence representing the Auto Industry or automobiles. Bankruptcy of auto industry was not an independent phenomena but was part of the global economic breakdown. Hence there is no point in delineating this industry alone during those periods. However, the present situation is definitely worth looking into. Toyota, ford, GM are international brands and to stay on the top, they have to convince the customers that they care. Hence it is a good strategy to have recalled vehicles. The govt rules & regulations in some countries also may force them to take such actions. However, the strange part is that even the Indian companies including the global counterparts hitherto known for their very callous attitude towards customers & service have suddenly started do so. Maruti recently recalled thousands of A-Star model for minor problems. There are other cases as well. If we consider the damage / defects none of the defects are related to the " heart " of the vehicle (engine) but related to other parts. So how could we relate this problem to the position of Mars in the heart of the vehicle (karkata)? Some of the problems are related to breaking / speeding etc - should we relate this to the 3rd house from it - Kanya sign? where saturn is merrily sitting & come to think of it, all these problems started when staturn moved over to Kanya or should I say when Saturn started transitting through Uttara whose lord is Sun. If on the other hand, we consider Venus as the Vahana Karaka, It has been in constant association with rahu , & aspect of Mars & Saturn from 11-Oct-2009 onwards it was with Saturn in Kanya sign On 04-Nov-2009 onwards in thula aspected by Mars On 28-Nov-2009 onwards in Vrischika aspected by Saturn On 21-Dec-2009 onwards in dhanu along with Rahu on 14-Jan-2010 onwards in Makara aspected by Mars on 07-Feb-2010 onwards in Kumbha aspected by Mars on 03-Mar-2010 onwards till 27-Mar-2010 in Meena aspected by Saturn So you can see it right from oct-2009 it was under constant threat from these malefics and gets some respite only when it move over to Mesha rasi. If we consider the auto industry as a whole, there were several instances in past, where inspite of being proved that the problems were manufacturing defects some of these companies choose to just ignore it and charged the customers in ruthless manner for repairs. So why should these companies now suddenly became so customer friendly & socially conscious ? - You shall find the answer in Rahu - the most cunning management strategy. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Tue, March 2, 2010 11:22:22 PM Why the automotive industry in clusters...? Of all the industries, the automotive industry has recently been the target of some curse, one would say. Governments (USA primarily) had to pump in millions and billions of dollars to keep General Motors afloat or there would have been surely bankruptcy. Interestingly, Ford was doing fine and even profitable. Then we heard of the MASSIVE Toyota recalls of several models which was rather amazing, given the FAME and quality of Toyota cars. And there was yet another problem (after the floor mats, accidental accelration, the software glitches which caused brake mal-functioning and accidents in Prius, and now the leaking hoses! As if that were not all, this morning heard about GM having to recall some of the chevrolet models! Why is this occurring? Someone was saying that the long stay of mars in neecha and current retrogression is responsible. However the Auto bankruptcy was seen more when jupiter was debilitated (began and got resolved back then) and now mars in cancer affection the 'motor' of modern society! If indeed mars is responsible (as some would claim...) then out goes the neecha vakri = uccha-sama MYTH, I suppose! Maybe the CEO of GM and Akiyo Toyota should begin fasting seriously on Tuesday and stop producing coral red models and change the colours of the brake light from red to deep blue (??) and while they are at it, get the navagraha pooja done, just in case ...! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Sir, Mars in debilitation is big boost for auto industry to take advantage of the present state of affairs.In US the situation i is not expected big boost even after US deciding to support industry By way of financial succour to Auto sector,intention retain employability and to avoid a negative state of picture.This is being taken as an advantage as they can not futher lower the manufacturing costs to boost sales. Some of the countries could withstand to global disturbances could influence sales in auto industry.this is mainly on account of support prices and banks to fund for these purchases.This is also time for some of them to change models and opt for new products.This choices happened to be on account of recession else where globally and manufacturers drive to promote their brands in these negative markets., Rightly mentioned by Shri Suresh Ji,it is time to be more quality conscious that can build up the brand equity and assure customers that the product has passed on only after all stringent standards are adhered.As a result these companies have recalled back their products globally. The time is ripe for them to do so as the consumer is not ready yet to opt for purchase of new models,energy efficient cars that is green models and meet the revised carbon emissions standards. Fuel prices also dependent on demand and supply are not happy too as the production levels remained static.Marginal increases in barrel prices will n ot disturb too much the consumption pattern. Things as such are at very negative trend.For there is no big hope for dollar to be stronger and change international finance drastically. 1.The industry to feel free is Mars to be direct.and the south node's rigidity(due to retrogradeness) ceases. Thanx to venus to transit to exaltation sign(in jupiter's pisces).This will reflect on consumers choices to opt for midsize and comfort oriented models. Further depressed Ma'rs aspect on mercury along with jupiter may not be conducive for consumers to volunteer to put money on cars. 2.jupiter in Aquarius might be leaving satabhisha(of rahu) in a weeks time and will be in own nakshtra.This will be time for better models with innovation could be displayed. 3.As of now lustrous and precious metals r on the rise as with the entry of venus into pisces and with saturn aspect,they get stabilised and no reason for these metals to loose sheen as the sun also joins venus and gets aspected by saturn. For auto industry it will be a progressive raise and by October better days for auto giants Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: Why the automotive industry in clusters...? Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 2:09 AM  Rohini ji, I suppose, when you mentioned Mars, you were considering Cancer sign being 4th from Mesha & hence representing the Auto Industry or automobiles. Bankruptcy of auto industry was not an independent phenomena but was part of the global economic breakdown. Hence there is no point in delineating this industry alone during those periods. However, the present situation is definitely worth looking into. Toyota, ford, GM are international brands and to stay on the top, they have to convince the customers that they care. Hence it is a good strategy to have recalled vehicles. The govt rules & regulations in some countries also may force them to take such actions. However, the strange part is that even the Indian companies including the global counterparts hitherto known for their very callous attitude towards customers & service have suddenly started do so. Maruti recently recalled thousands of A-Star model for minor problems. There are other cases as well. If we consider the damage / defects none of the defects are related to the " heart " of the vehicle (engine) but related to other parts. So how could we relate this problem to the position of Mars in the heart of the vehicle (karkata)? Some of the problems are related to breaking / speeding etc - should we relate this to the 3rd house from it - Kanya sign? where saturn is merrily sitting & come to think of it, all these problems started when staturn moved over to Kanya or should I say when Saturn started transitting through Uttara whose lord is Sun. If on the other hand, we consider Venus as the Vahana Karaka, It has been in constant association with rahu , & aspect of Mars & Saturn from 11-Oct-2009 onwards it was with Saturn in Kanya sign On 04-Nov-2009 onwards in thula aspected by Mars On 28-Nov-2009 onwards in Vrischika aspected by Saturn On 21-Dec-2009 onwards in dhanu along with Rahu on 14-Jan-2010 onwards in Makara aspected by Mars on 07-Feb-2010 onwards in Kumbha aspected by Mars on 03-Mar-2010 onwards till 27-Mar-2010 in Meena aspected by Saturn So you can see it right from oct-2009 it was under constant threat from these malefics and gets some respite only when it move over to Mesha rasi. If we consider the auto industry as a whole, there were several instances in past, where inspite of being proved that the problems were manufacturing defects some of these companies choose to just ignore it and charged the customers in ruthless manner for repairs. So why should these companies now suddenly became so customer friendly & socially conscious ? - You shall find the answer in Rahu - the most cunning management strategy. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Tue, March 2, 2010 11:22:22 PM Why the automotive industry in clusters...? Of all the industries, the automotive industry has recently been the target of some curse, one would say. Governments (USA primarily) had to pump in millions and billions of dollars to keep General Motors afloat or there would have been surely bankruptcy. Interestingly, Ford was doing fine and even profitable. Then we heard of the MASSIVE Toyota recalls of several models which was rather amazing, given the FAME and quality of Toyota cars. And there was yet another problem (after the floor mats, accidental accelration, the software glitches which caused brake mal-functioning and accidents in Prius, and now the leaking hoses! As if that were not all, this morning heard about GM having to recall some of the chevrolet models! Why is this occurring? Someone was saying that the long stay of mars in neecha and current retrogression is responsible. However the Auto bankruptcy was seen more when jupiter was debilitated (began and got resolved back then) and now mars in cancer affection the 'motor' of modern society! If indeed mars is responsible (as some would claim...) then out goes the neecha vakri = uccha-sama MYTH, I suppose! Maybe the CEO of GM and Akiyo Toyota should begin fasting seriously on Tuesday and stop producing coral red models and change the colours of the brake light from red to deep blue (??) and while they are at it, get the navagraha pooja done, just in case ...! Rohiniranjan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 from your keyboard to Henry Ford's video monitor in Heaven...! , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir, > Mars in debilitation is big boost for auto industry to take advantage of the present state of affairs.In US the situation i is not expected big boost even after US deciding to support industry > By way of financial succour to Auto sector,intention retain employability and to avoid a negative state of picture.This is being taken as an advantage as they can not futher lower the manufacturing costs to boost sales. > Some of the countries could withstand to global disturbances could influence sales in auto industry.this is mainly on account of support prices and banks to fund for these purchases.This is also time for some of them to change models and opt for new products.This choices happened to be on account of recession else where globally and manufacturers drive to promote their brands in these negative markets., > Rightly mentioned by Shri Suresh Ji,it is time to be more quality conscious that can build up the brand equity and assure customers that the product has passed on only after all stringent standards are adhered.As a result these companies have recalled back their products globally. > The time is ripe for them to do so as the consumer is not ready yet to opt for purchase of new models,energy efficient cars that is green models and meet the revised carbon emissions standards. > Fuel prices also dependent on demand and supply are not happy too as the production levels remained static.Marginal increases in barrel prices will n ot disturb too much the consumption pattern. > Things as such are at very negative trend.For there is no big hope for dollar to be stronger and change international finance drastically. > 1.The industry to feel free is Mars to be direct.and the south node's rigidity(due to retrogradeness) ceases. > Thanx to venus to transit to exaltation sign(in jupiter's pisces).This will reflect on consumers choices to opt for midsize and comfort oriented models. > Further depressed Ma'rs aspect on mercury along with jupiter may not be conducive for consumers to volunteer to put money on cars. > 2.jupiter in Aquarius might be leaving satabhisha(of rahu) in a weeks time and will be in own nakshtra.This will be time for better models with innovation could be displayed. > 3.As of now lustrous and precious metals r on the rise as with the entry of venus into pisces and with saturn aspect,they get stabilised and no reason for these metals to loose sheen as the sun also joins venus and gets aspected by saturn. > For auto industry it will be a progressive raise and by October better days for auto giants > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag > Re: Why the automotive industry in clusters...? > > Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 2:09 AM >  > > > Rohini ji, > > > > I suppose, when you mentioned Mars, you were considering Cancer sign being 4th from Mesha & hence representing the Auto Industry or automobiles. > > > > Bankruptcy of auto industry was not an independent phenomena but was part of the global economic breakdown. Hence there is no point in delineating this industry alone during those periods. > > > > However, the present situation is definitely worth looking into. Toyota, ford, GM are international brands and to stay on the top, they have to convince the customers that they care. Hence it is a good strategy to have recalled vehicles. The govt rules & regulations in some countries also may force them to take such actions. However, the strange part is that even the Indian companies including the global counterparts hitherto known for their very callous attitude towards customers & service have suddenly started do so. Maruti recently recalled thousands of A-Star model for minor problems. There are other cases as well. > > > > If we consider the damage / defects none of the defects are related to the " heart " of the vehicle (engine) but related to other parts. So how could we relate this problem to the position of Mars in the heart of the vehicle (karkata)? > > > > Some of the problems are related to breaking / speeding etc - should we relate this to the 3rd house from it - Kanya sign? where saturn is merrily sitting & come to think of it, all these problems started when staturn moved over to Kanya or should I say when Saturn started transitting through Uttara whose lord is Sun. > > > > If on the other hand, we consider Venus as the Vahana Karaka, It has been in constant association with rahu , & aspect of Mars & Saturn > > > > from 11-Oct-2009 onwards it was with Saturn in Kanya sign > > On 04-Nov-2009 onwards in thula aspected by Mars > > On 28-Nov-2009 onwards in Vrischika aspected by Saturn > > On 21-Dec-2009 onwards in dhanu along with Rahu > > on 14-Jan-2010 onwards in Makara aspected by Mars > > on 07-Feb-2010 onwards in Kumbha aspected by Mars > > on 03-Mar-2010 onwards till 27-Mar-2010 in Meena aspected by Saturn > > > > So you can see it right from oct-2009 it was under constant threat from these malefics and gets some respite only when it move over to Mesha rasi. > > > > If we consider the auto industry as a whole, there were several instances in past, where inspite of being proved that the problems were manufacturing defects some of these companies choose to just ignore it and charged the customers in ruthless manner for repairs. So why should these companies now suddenly became so customer friendly & socially conscious ? - You shall find the answer in Rahu - the most cunning management strategy. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Tue, March 2, 2010 11:22:22 PM > > Why the automotive industry in clusters...? > > > > Of all the industries, the automotive industry has recently been the target of some curse, one would say. Governments (USA primarily) had to pump in millions and billions of dollars to keep General Motors afloat or there would have been surely bankruptcy. Interestingly, Ford was doing fine and even profitable. > > > > Then we heard of the MASSIVE Toyota recalls of several models which was rather amazing, given the FAME and quality of Toyota cars. And there was yet another problem (after the floor mats, accidental accelration, the software glitches which caused brake mal-functioning and accidents in Prius, and now the leaking hoses! > > > > As if that were not all, this morning heard about GM having to recall some of the chevrolet models! > > > > Why is this occurring? Someone was saying that the long stay of mars in neecha and current retrogression is responsible. However the Auto bankruptcy was seen more when jupiter was debilitated (began and got resolved back then) and now mars in cancer affection the 'motor' of modern society! > > > > If indeed mars is responsible (as some would claim...) then out goes the neecha vakri = uccha-sama MYTH, I suppose! > > > > Maybe the CEO of GM and Akiyo Toyota should begin fasting seriously on Tuesday and stop producing coral red models and change the colours of the brake light from red to deep blue (??) and while they are at it, get the navagraha pooja done, just in case ...! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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