Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Dear Vinay ji, well if u can share some parts of Lomasha Samhita with us will help us understand the book better, first of all it is news to many such works exist, some parts that u can explain will help esp the contents itself u can upload the page on the files section and expand on some select ones, rest members can search for the book or if u know where to get it pl provide the same info in the files section as books to refer, read, posses... thanks .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Thu, March 4, 2010 3:46:27 PM Re: snake in dream Rohini Da, I take your words at least as calmly as you take mine. I repeat " Since the option 'I am nothing, everything is God' was not taught to me (by any Guru), I am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. " Logic is incapable of apprehending Reality, but I repeat that most of the mortals have no other tool. My Guruji once rebuked me because I used too much of logic. My reply : those who have crossed the Vaitarni need logic no more, those who do not want to cross the Vaitarni no not respect Logic, but those (like me) who are mid-stream need Logic otherwise they will fail to differentiate between both banks of Vaitarni. Preaching does not elevate anyone, as Sage Vashishtha said in Yoga Vaashishtha. Moreover, I am not a Guru to preach in any fora. Adding my comments to a thread is not preaching. In this thread about dream, I had alluded to something about dream in Lomasha Samhita which is a Jyotisha text. But members are disinterested. -VJ ============ ========= ==== === , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > Vinay_jee, > > If logic is futile in appreciating or experiencing this 'gem' of COSMIC TRUTH then what purpose, pray tell, is being served by 'serving' it to all and sundry on a *bits & bytes* forum :-) > > As you yourself said, the world is full of Rascals who have READ and yet remain UN-REALized! When Upanishads and other SCRIPTURES have for the most part failed in elevating this world, other than a very RARE and SPECIAL few who remain in oblivion, and oblivious to the worldly miasma, what can an internet forum message which is above and beyond questioning is dreaming to achieve ...? > > Please do not take it personally, but think calmly about what I am saying... > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > RR Ji, > > > > The topic you want to discuss is forbidden for Logic. I had directly quoted from upanishadas. I myself belong to the third variety known as Bindu-yoga ( " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or God " ). A moksha-maargi cannot chose, he/she has to follow what is given by the Guru. The real Guru has power to convince his/her Shishyas by dint of his/her Divine Consciousness and arguments become redundant there. > > > > Since the option " I am nothing, everything is God " was not taught to me, I am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. But I have sufficient experience of these unworldly things to request you to abstain from experimenting with worldly logic in Upa-nishadic Rahasyas. Upa+nishada means " to sit close to (one's Guru) for receiving spiritual Knowledge " . In upanishadas, Upanishada was also called Rahasya. Spiritual Rahasya cannot be transmitted through preachings, it requires sixth sense, at least for the transmitter. > > > > Now, come to the philosophical level. " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or God " belongs to Vishishta-advaita Darshana. But " I am Brahm " and " I am nthiong and Everything is Brahma " are different manifestations of Advaita Darshana. " I am nothing and Everything is Brahma " is the preceding stage of final Advaita " I am Brahm " , because " I am nothing " is for the Ego (Aham) and " Everything is Brahma " includes the real Self. > > > > But these words will do no good unless and until Kriya-yoga is practised for suffucient duration. > > > > -vj > > ============ ========= == === > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In -- > > > > > > " (1) I am nothing, everything is God " > > > > > > There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains the sense of " I " even as a 'nothing'? > > > > > > Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps?? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the assistance of specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for invoking the Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve while awake, and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor Nath Jha of Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija Shankar Shastri of Allahabad told me so. > > > > > > > > Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of human existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties : Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams. > > > > > > > > According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of Soul. First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I am a point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the fourth is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical body, he / she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she retains a self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is destined for moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained till death). > > > > > > > > Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but cannot because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge cannot be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga- pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha (Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and will also show you the practical way out. > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > > > > > , pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sairam to all respected astrologers, > > > > > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in my dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream. It was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time, another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile) with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as its happening right now. I do fear of lions. > > > > > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself, floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river, sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming. And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out from it. > > > > > My birth details are as follow : > > > > > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, India. > > > > > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion. > > > > > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster parents. not legally adopted child. > > > > > I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not seen real family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have inclinations towards spiritual line too. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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