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To All :

 

The website of saparshiastrology contains ten chapters of a 90 year old

manuscript of Lomasha Samhita in original Sanskrit. It is of little help to

non-experts. But twelve chapters of Lomasha Samhita have been translated into

Hindi and published in Oct 2002 AD by my friend Dr Girija Shankar Shastri in

Allahabad. His mobile phone number is 09450618560 (please do not disturb him

during office hours, he is head of dept of Sanskrit) and email ID is

gsshatri

 

There is a mantra in this text about invoking the Goddess of Dreams for getting

the answer of difficult questions which no one can answer in waked states. Only

1% of Lomasha Samhita has been rescued so far. There were 60000 verses

originally. I had earlier posted this information here.

 

-VJ

========================== ===

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> well if u can share some parts of Lomasha Samhita with us will help us

understand the book better, first of all it is news to many such works exist,

some parts that u can explain will help esp the contents itself u can upload the

page on the files section and expand on some select ones, rest members can

search for the book or if u know where to get it pl provide the same info in the

files section

>

> as books to refer, read, posses...

>

> thanks

>

>

> .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> VJha <vinayjhaa16

>

> Thu, March 4, 2010 3:46:27 PM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> I take your words at least as calmly as you take mine. I repeat " Since the

option 'I am nothing, everything is God' was not taught to me (by any Guru), I

am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. "

>

> Logic is incapable of apprehending Reality, but I repeat that most of the

mortals have no other tool. My Guruji once rebuked me because I used too much of

logic. My reply : those who have crossed the Vaitarni need logic no more, those

who do not want to cross the Vaitarni no not respect Logic, but those (like me)

who are mid-stream need Logic otherwise they will fail to differentiate between

both banks of Vaitarni.

>

> Preaching does not elevate anyone, as Sage Vashishtha said in Yoga

Vaashishtha. Moreover, I am not a Guru to preach in any fora. Adding my comments

to a thread is not preaching. In this thread about dream, I had alluded to

something about dream in Lomasha Samhita which is a Jyotisha text. But members

are disinterested.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ========= ==== ===

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Vinay_jee,

> >

> > If logic is futile in appreciating or experiencing this 'gem' of COSMIC

TRUTH then what purpose, pray tell, is being served by 'serving' it to all and

sundry on a *bits & bytes* forum :-)

> >

> > As you yourself said, the world is full of Rascals who have READ and yet

remain UN-REALized! When Upanishads and other SCRIPTURES have for the most part

failed in elevating this world, other than a very RARE and SPECIAL few who

remain in oblivion, and oblivious to the worldly miasma, what can an internet

forum message which is above and beyond questioning is dreaming to achieve ...?

> >

> > Please do not take it personally, but think calmly about what I am saying...

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > RR Ji,

> > >

> > > The topic you want to discuss is forbidden for Logic. I had directly

quoted from upanishadas. I myself belong to the third variety known as

Bindu-yoga ( " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a boundless Sindhu of Collective

Consciousness or God " ). A moksha-maargi cannot chose, he/she has to follow what

is given by the Guru. The real Guru has power to convince his/her Shishyas by

dint of his/her Divine Consciousness and arguments become redundant there.

> > >

> > > Since the option " I am nothing, everything is God " was not taught to me,

I am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. But I have sufficient

experience of these unworldly things to request you to abstain from

experimenting with worldly logic in Upa-nishadic Rahasyas. Upa+nishada means " to

sit close to (one's Guru) for receiving spiritual Knowledge " . In upanishadas,

Upanishada was also called Rahasya. Spiritual Rahasya cannot be transmitted

through preachings, it requires sixth sense, at least for the transmitter.

> > >

> > > Now, come to the philosophical level. " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a

boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or God " belongs to

Vishishta-advaita Darshana. But " I am Brahm " and " I am nthiong and Everything

is Brahma " are different manifestations of Advaita Darshana. " I am nothing and

Everything is Brahma " is the preceding stage of final Advaita " I am Brahm " ,

because " I am nothing " is for the Ego (Aham) and " Everything is Brahma "

includes the real Self.

> > >

> > > But these words will do no good unless and until Kriya-yoga is practised

for suffucient duration.

> > >

> > > -vj

> > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In --

> > > >

> > > > " (1) I am nothing, everything is God "

> > > >

> > > > There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains

the sense of " I " even as a 'nothing'?

> > > >

> > > > Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps??

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the

assistance of specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for

invoking the Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve

while awake, and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor

Nath Jha of Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija

Shankar Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

> > > > >

> > > > > Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of

human existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties

: Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of

Soul. First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I

am a point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the

fourth is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical

body, he / she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she

retains a self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is

destined for moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained

till death).

> > > > >

> > > > > Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but

cannot because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge

cannot be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga- pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

> > > > >

> > > > > -vj

> > > > > ============ ========= ===

> > > > >

> > > > > , pushpa kumari

<pushpa_75_99@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> > > > > > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing

snake in my dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my

dream. It was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher

appears. All were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground,

pretending to be dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At

the same time, another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having

camera (mobile) with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i

clicked a photo with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I

got up and it was mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still

remember the scene as its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> > > > > > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see

myself, floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense

forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river,

sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming.

And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of

this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any

probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that

situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out

from it.

> > > > > > My birth details are as follow :

> > > > > > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur,

Jharkhand, India.

> > > > > > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> > > > > > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love

and affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child.

> > > > > > I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not

seen real family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Vinay ji

 

thanks for the info and as u said it covers Hindi or devagnari script followers

how abt the mass no of people with english works on this some excerts, summery

works can help if not a detailed ones on a few chapters, this can awaken the

interest amoung readers and seekers alike

 

thanks

- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

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________________________________

VJha <vinayjhaa16

 

Thu, March 4, 2010 11:16:25 PM

Re: snake in dream- Lomasha Samhita 4/03

 

 

To All :

 

The website of saparshiastrology contains ten chapters of a 90 year old

manuscript of Lomasha Samhita in original Sanskrit. It is of little help to

non-experts. But twelve chapters of Lomasha Samhita have been translated into

Hindi and published in Oct 2002 AD by my friend Dr Girija Shankar Shastri in

Allahabad. His mobile phone number is 09450618560 (please do not disturb him

during office hours, he is head of dept of Sanskrit) and email ID is

gsshatri (AT) gmail (DOT) com

 

There is a mantra in this text about invoking the Goddess of Dreams for getting

the answer of difficult questions which no one can answer in waked states. Only

1% of Lomasha Samhita has been rescued so far. There were 60000 verses

originally. I had earlier posted this information here.

 

-VJ

============ ========= ===== ===

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji,

>

> well if u can share some parts of Lomasha Samhita with us will help us

understand the book better, first of all it is news to many such works exist,

some parts that u can explain will help esp the contents itself u can upload the

page on the files section and expand on some select ones, rest members can

search for the book or if u know where to get it pl provide the same info in the

files section

>

> as books to refer, read, posses...

>

> thanks

>

>

> .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow

s & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

>

> Thu, March 4, 2010 3:46:27 PM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>

> Rohini Da,

>

> I take your words at least as calmly as you take mine. I repeat " Since the

option 'I am nothing, everything is God' was not taught to me (by any Guru), I

am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. "

>

> Logic is incapable of apprehending Reality, but I repeat that most of the

mortals have no other tool. My Guruji once rebuked me because I used too much of

logic. My reply : those who have crossed the Vaitarni need logic no more, those

who do not want to cross the Vaitarni no not respect Logic, but those (like me)

who are mid-stream need Logic otherwise they will fail to differentiate between

both banks of Vaitarni.

>

> Preaching does not elevate anyone, as Sage Vashishtha said in Yoga

Vaashishtha. Moreover, I am not a Guru to preach in any fora. Adding my comments

to a thread is not preaching. In this thread about dream, I had alluded to

something about dream in Lomasha Samhita which is a Jyotisha text. But members

are disinterested.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ========= ==== ===

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> > Vinay_jee,

> >

> > If logic is futile in appreciating or experiencing this 'gem' of COSMIC

TRUTH then what purpose, pray tell, is being served by 'serving' it to all and

sundry on a *bits & bytes* forum :-)

> >

> > As you yourself said, the world is full of Rascals who have READ and yet

remain UN-REALized! When Upanishads and other SCRIPTURES have for the most part

failed in elevating this world, other than a very RARE and SPECIAL few who

remain in oblivion, and oblivious to the worldly miasma, what can an internet

forum message which is above and beyond questioning is dreaming to achieve ...?

> >

> > Please do not take it personally, but think calmly about what I am saying...

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > RR Ji,

> > >

> > > The topic you want to discuss is forbidden for Logic. I had directly

quoted from upanishadas. I myself belong to the third variety known as

Bindu-yoga ( " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a boundless Sindhu of Collective

Consciousness or God " ). A moksha-maargi cannot chose, he/she has to follow what

is given by the Guru. The real Guru has power to convince his/her Shishyas by

dint of his/her Divine Consciousness and arguments become redundant there.

> > >

> > > Since the option " I am nothing, everything is God " was not taught to me,

I am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. But I have sufficient

experience of these unworldly things to request you to abstain from

experimenting with worldly logic in Upa-nishadic Rahasyas. Upa+nishada means " to

sit close to (one's Guru) for receiving spiritual Knowledge " . In upanishadas,

Upanishada was also called Rahasya. Spiritual Rahasya cannot be transmitted

through preachings, it requires sixth sense, at least for the transmitter.

> > >

> > > Now, come to the philosophical level. " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a

boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or God " belongs to

Vishishta-advaita Darshana. But " I am Brahm " and " I am nthiong and Everything

is Brahma " are different manifestations of Advaita Darshana. " I am nothing and

Everything is Brahma " is the preceding stage of final Advaita " I am Brahm " ,

because " I am nothing " is for the Ego (Aham) and " Everything is Brahma "

includes the real Self.

> > >

> > > But these words will do no good unless and until Kriya-yoga is practised

for suffucient duration.

> > >

> > > -vj

> > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In --

> > > >

> > > > " (1) I am nothing, everything is God "

> > > >

> > > > There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains

the sense of " I " even as a 'nothing'?

> > > >

> > > > Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps??

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the

assistance of specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for

invoking the Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve

while awake, and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor

Nath Jha of Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija

Shankar Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

> > > > >

> > > > > Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of

human existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties

: Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

> > > > >

> > > > > According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of

Soul. First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I

am a point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the

fourth is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical

body, he / she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she

retains a self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is

destined for moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained

till death).

> > > > >

> > > > > Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but

cannot because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge

cannot be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga- pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

> > > > >

> > > > > -vj

> > > > > ============ ========= ===

> > > > >

> > > > > , pushpa kumari

<pushpa_75_99@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> > > > > > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing

snake in my dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my

dream. It was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher

appears. All were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground,

pretending to be dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At

the same time, another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having

camera (mobile) with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i

clicked a photo with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I

got up and it was mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still

remember the scene as its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> > > > > > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see

myself, floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense

forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river,

sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming.

And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of

this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any

probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that

situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out

from it.

> > > > > > My birth details are as follow :

> > > > > > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur,

Jharkhand, India.

> > > > > > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> > > > > > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love

and affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child.

> > > > > > I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not

seen real family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Lomesh Samhita is being translated (into English) by Ashok Pandey & Anup Das :

 

http://www.saptarishisastrology.com/coming-issues.php

 

-VJ

=================== ===

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Dear Vinay ji

>

> thanks for the info and as u said it covers Hindi or devagnari script

followers how abt the mass no of people with english works on this some excerts,

summery works can help if not a detailed ones on a few chapters, this can awaken

the interest amoung readers and seekers alike

>

> thanks

> - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> VJha <vinayjhaa16

>

> Thu, March 4, 2010 11:16:25 PM

> Re: snake in dream- Lomasha Samhita 4/03

>

>

> To All :

>

> The website of saparshiastrology contains ten chapters of a 90 year old

manuscript of Lomasha Samhita in original Sanskrit. It is of little help to

non-experts. But twelve chapters of Lomasha Samhita have been translated into

Hindi and published in Oct 2002 AD by my friend Dr Girija Shankar Shastri in

Allahabad. His mobile phone number is 09450618560 (please do not disturb him

during office hours, he is head of dept of Sanskrit) and email ID is

gsshatri (AT) gmail (DOT) com

>

> There is a mantra in this text about invoking the Goddess of Dreams for

getting the answer of difficult questions which no one can answer in waked

states. Only 1% of Lomasha Samhita has been rescued so far. There were 60000

verses originally. I had earlier posted this information here.

>

> -VJ

> ============ ========= ===== ===

> , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vinay ji,

> >

> > well if u can share some parts of Lomasha Samhita with us will help us

understand the book better, first of all it is news to many such works exist,

some parts that u can explain will help esp the contents itself u can upload the

page on the files section and expand on some select ones, rest members can

search for the book or if u know where to get it pl provide the same info in the

files section

> >

> > as books to refer, read, posses...

> >

> > thanks

> >

> >

> > .- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s & tbl=6

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > VJha <vinayjhaa16@ ...>

> >

> > Thu, March 4, 2010 3:46:27 PM

> > Re: snake in dream

> >

> >

> > Rohini Da,

> >

> > I take your words at least as calmly as you take mine. I repeat " Since the

option 'I am nothing, everything is God' was not taught to me (by any Guru), I

am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. "

> >

> > Logic is incapable of apprehending Reality, but I repeat that most of the

mortals have no other tool. My Guruji once rebuked me because I used too much of

logic. My reply : those who have crossed the Vaitarni need logic no more, those

who do not want to cross the Vaitarni no not respect Logic, but those (like me)

who are mid-stream need Logic otherwise they will fail to differentiate between

both banks of Vaitarni.

> >

> > Preaching does not elevate anyone, as Sage Vashishtha said in Yoga

Vaashishtha. Moreover, I am not a Guru to preach in any fora. Adding my comments

to a thread is not preaching. In this thread about dream, I had alluded to

something about dream in Lomasha Samhita which is a Jyotisha text. But members

are disinterested.

> >

> > -VJ

> > ============ ========= ==== ===

> > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Vinay_jee,

> > >

> > > If logic is futile in appreciating or experiencing this 'gem' of COSMIC

TRUTH then what purpose, pray tell, is being served by 'serving' it to all and

sundry on a *bits & bytes* forum :-)

> > >

> > > As you yourself said, the world is full of Rascals who have READ and yet

remain UN-REALized! When Upanishads and other SCRIPTURES have for the most part

failed in elevating this world, other than a very RARE and SPECIAL few who

remain in oblivion, and oblivious to the worldly miasma, what can an internet

forum message which is above and beyond questioning is dreaming to achieve ...?

> > >

> > > Please do not take it personally, but think calmly about what I am

saying...

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > RR Ji,

> > > >

> > > > The topic you want to discuss is forbidden for Logic. I had directly

quoted from upanishadas. I myself belong to the third variety known as

Bindu-yoga ( " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a boundless Sindhu of Collective

Consciousness or God " ). A moksha-maargi cannot chose, he/she has to follow what

is given by the Guru. The real Guru has power to convince his/her Shishyas by

dint of his/her Divine Consciousness and arguments become redundant there.

> > > >

> > > > Since the option " I am nothing, everything is God " was not taught to

me, I am as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. But I have sufficient

experience of these unworldly things to request you to abstain from

experimenting with worldly logic in Upa-nishadic Rahasyas. Upa+nishada means " to

sit close to (one's Guru) for receiving spiritual Knowledge " . In upanishadas,

Upanishada was also called Rahasya. Spiritual Rahasya cannot be transmitted

through preachings, it requires sixth sense, at least for the transmitter.

> > > >

> > > > Now, come to the philosophical level. " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in

a boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or God " belongs to

Vishishta-advaita Darshana. But " I am Brahm " and " I am nthiong and Everything

is Brahma " are different manifestations of Advaita Darshana. " I am nothing and

Everything is Brahma " is the preceding stage of final Advaita " I am Brahm " ,

because " I am nothing " is for the Ego (Aham) and " Everything is Brahma "

includes the real Self.

> > > >

> > > > But these words will do no good unless and until Kriya-yoga is practised

for suffucient duration.

> > > >

> > > > -vj

> > > > ============ ========= == ===

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In --

> > > > >

> > > > > " (1) I am nothing, everything is God "

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains

the sense of " I " even as a 'nothing'?

> > > > >

> > > > > Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps??

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ >

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the

assistance of specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for

invoking the Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve

while awake, and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor

Nath Jha of Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija

Shankar Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of

human existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties

: Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence

of Soul. First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3)

I am a point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the

fourth is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical

body, he / she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she

retains a self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is

destined for moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained

till death).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but

cannot because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge

cannot be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga- pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -vj

> > > > > > ============ ========= ===

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , pushpa kumari

<pushpa_75_99@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> > > > > > > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing

snake in my dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my

dream. It was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher

appears. All were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground,

pretending to be dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At

the same time, another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having

camera (mobile) with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i

clicked a photo with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I

got up and it was mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still

remember the scene as its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> > > > > > > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see

myself, floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense

forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river,

sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming.

And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of

this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any

probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that

situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out

from it.

> > > > > > > My birth details are as follow :

> > > > > > > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur,

Jharkhand, India.

> > > > > > > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> > > > > > > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's

love and affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like

foster parents. not legally adopted child.

> > > > > > > I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not

seen real family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage. http://in.. com/

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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