Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 is running a bit slow tonight, Paramjit jee! I already responded to this reposted message :-) Thanks for caring to try and send and resend your message to me, though! I hope /its keepers get the " tigers " in the backyard to you and other readers, but if the message does not make through, please feel free to enquire! It has a human element of importance to us human beings! Despite all the wild animals my message contained (awaiting approval!) RR_, , Param Iqbal <param530 wrote: > > > > Understandable RRJi, per your request, you wanted a complete synopsis of all the various culture/religions and their interpretations and meaning of snakes, not I. Historically, the fundamentals are the same, but it is the culture that adds their own spin to the same stories/problems. > > In my opinion, the fundamentals of dreaming about a snake is either a good thing or not. In Hinduism and Sikhism, white snakes were talked about and considered very good and and black snakes are not, especially if they had their toungues out. Therefore, Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji, at least that is what I have seen in my experience with my family and friends in the UK, where I used to go vacation every couple of years, US, where I have always lived and India, when I used to go visit my dad's family as well as Canada, where my family lives and my family in Seattle and NY/New Jersey in the Us. > > Our family is deeply religious in Sikhism, and we were not that into Hinduism, but I do have cousins who are Muslim and Hindu's. I grew up in private school where I had morning mass at 6 am in the morning in England. So I was extremely blessed to have the opportunity to be able to view all cultures with an open mind. Not too mention, California has a fantastic pot of gold of different ethnic backgrounds and we are not limited to one group of people. There is nothing like this wonderful state now going to Pot due to the economy. > > We always went to our family astrologer, who was Hindu-Punjabi, and he would prescribe us > remedies for Mata Ji and Shiv Ji when we had dream afflictions. Alas, that wonderful man is no longer with us, but he was a great man to > work with. He was open minded and was great at helping us with getting our rashi's and afflictions outlined for us and assisting us with remedial help. A true gem, who is sorely missed. > > On my in-laws side who are Muslim, they, too, see religious leaders who recommend certain remedies when there are dream afflictions with prayers and other stuff. > > However, since I have digressed, talking about my personal experiences. I was merely pointing out that cultures and religions try to appease the weakness through prayer and remedies. > > But since you wanted a comparison, who but yourself would be good at this, since you are more wiser than I and a true Jyotish. I am just a bystander. :-) > > > Kind Regards, > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, March 4, 2010 3:16:37 PM > Re: snake in dream > > > Let me try and take you back to the original issue which remained addressed in your earlier responses :-) > > You wrote: > ||||||||||| > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. > ||||||||||| > > I responded: > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > ||||||||||| > > Obviously, the point I was raising was that the statement associating snake-dreams and Shivji is literally only applicable to those who believe in Shivji! > > Other religions too dream of snakes but the significances may be different! > > Hopefully you will see the irrelevance in your recent responses to the original matter, if not (highly likely -- that is fine too!) :-) > > A good example of Thread-drift/ topic-drift. > > Rohiniranjan > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > Go for it, RR Ji. Why don't you present it to us? :-) I dare ya! > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Wed, March 3, 2010 7:00:33 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Should we be mixing up " religions " and 'cultures', so recklessly? It dulls the acuity of evidence, sister! > > > > Before nailing the coffin shut as the expression goes, on this matter, the least one can do is to find and compare the significances of the 'snake dreams' in different MAJOR and EXISTING religions and draw a comparison and conclusion. > > > > It PAINS me to see how glibly and in a hand-waving way, we treat such serious matters such as dreams and nimitta which has caused obvious personal pain to an esteemed contributor on this forum, who did not deserve this and it just goes to demonstrate our collective spiritual maturity! And our seriousness and sincerity as a group! > > > > Is this what Jyotish and Divination has come down to...? > > > > Very SAD and DISTURBING, indeed! > > > > But to each his own, I suppose! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, RR Ji. > > > > > > In regards to your comment, regarding this subject. I just have to say, it is proven that every religion has special meaning when it comes to dreams of serpants, scorpians, snakes. Look at the mayan culture and the early Egyptian, Greek, Chinese and Roman culture. When you look at ancient history, and review the heiroglyphics, serpants were very important in the early ages of time and mankind. > > > > > > Animals, in general, were revered or abhorred. Snakes or serpants, since the beginning of time, have always had significance in every culture in some way, shape or form. There have medicinal and remedial effects created to fix the dire suffering from this. Egyptian cultures worshipped cats and thought it was a bad omen, if you > > > killed one. Just recently in the news, they did a story on how they > > > found a cat temple in Alexandria, ancient Egypt. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jan/19/egypt-cat-god-temple-bastet > > > > > > > > > Although, I am sikh, married to a man from a different culture, who is very open-minded in the differences of the cultures and accepts that although there are differences in the religions, the basic fundamentals are the same. The omnipresent. > > > > > > Astrology has a link to both the religion as well as daily interactions of having your spiritual, emotional and physical being conjoined to meet with the Omnipresent. That is why we end up in our latter days, after having to go through a midlife crisis, becoming more spiritual with the hopes of going to our maker and have our karma justified. > > > > > > People genuinely ask astrologers to make us whole as a person and to end our sufferings so we can feel better, in the spiritual, metaphyisical and emotional way. WE want to be healed from our suffering > > > > > > There are great Muslim, Jewish, Catholic/Christian, and Sikh spiritualists/ healers. (i,e. who have faith in astrology and the power it brings-predictive or not. It is a true blessing. (i.e. Sant Isher Singh, predicted his own death and was a great spiritual healer who people revered from all over the world Nostradamus predicted WWI, II and 09/11. Mayan Astrology, and there is Chinese Feng Shui). In all these cases, studies have shown astrology is about healing, which these people were noted. Any epic stories, you hear all noblemen went to astrologers to predict what would happen in their lives, and did not do anything without their astrologers advise of yay or nay. Of course, people were killed over this too, i.e. Salem Witch hunt. > > > > > > Bottom line, dreams can help us to know what is going in our lives. Therefore, both astrology and dreams are simultaneous predictors of what is going through our life and ultimately deals with how can we as a human being heal our lives to get the next stage. > > > > > > Sorry for the long book, but I concur with KrishnanJi talking about the same thing over and over again..is really not that educational. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Tue, March 2, 2010 4:48:31 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Paramjit_jee, > > > > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > > > I am afraid, we might have to dig deeper than merely religious symbols of one religion (dominant as it may be in this world or at least this forum) in order to really explore and understand Randhra: The home of the Serpant Symbol! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I did. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Param Kaur Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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