Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. Regards, Rakesh Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Rakesh ji, To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh <rakesh_771119 wrote: Rakesh <rakesh_771119 Science of Patanjali yog sutra Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM Â Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. Regards, Rakesh Kumar Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Sir,Rakesh Kumarji has issued following subject for you: [1]If you have temple to worship with a brass bell in your house, then your horoscope and the time of birth is correct.May god bless you.(New Rule for BTR which deprives Non Hindus & Hindus) [2]If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it.   It means Baba Ram Deoji & other Yoga teachers must be ready to search their Teflon sheet (Kavach).Let the learned & respected Vinay ji submitt more. Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Rakesh <rakesh_771119 Sat, March 6, 2010 5:05:00 PM Science of Patanjali yog sutra  Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. Regards, Rakesh Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 DN Misra Ji, My late Guru ji had ordered me not to discuss Tantra, esp about serpentine Kundalini. It is a personal experience which harms a person if not kept a secret. It does not mean others should be deprived of its benefits. It only means that the road to this sacred knowledge of Kundalini is through tapasyaa & c and not through chatting on internet. -VJ ====================== === , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Dear Sir,Rakesh Kumarji has issued following subject for you: > [1]If you have temple to worship with a brass bell in your house, then your horoscope and the time of birth is correct.May god bless you.(New Rule for BTR which deprives Non Hindus & Hindus) > [2]If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. >   It means Baba Ram Deoji & other Yoga teachers must be ready to search their Teflon sheet (Kavach).Let the learned & respected Vinay ji submitt more. > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Rakesh <rakesh_771119 > > Sat, March 6, 2010 5:05:00 PM > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > >  > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. > Regards, > Rakesh Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Respected Misra Ji, As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as a query I will honor your post. . Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . Regards, Rakesh Kumar Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Rakesh Kumarji (Question)-//If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it.// By Sri Vinay Jha Ji(Answer)-My late Guru ji had ordered me not to discuss Tantra, esp about serpentine Kundalini. It is a personal experience which harms a person if not kept a secret. It does not mean others should be deprived of its benefits. It only means that the road to this sacred knowledge of Kundalini is through tapasyaa and not through chatting on internet Dear Rakeshji,Are you satisfied with the above reply?chatting on above topic is forbidden on internet.Baba Ram Deoji & others are demonstrating to the extent what is not harmful and permissible under strict rules of Yog. Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Sat, March 6, 2010 8:35:31 PM Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra  DN Misra Ji, My late Guru ji had ordered me not to discuss Tantra, esp about serpentine Kundalini. It is a personal experience which harms a person if not kept a secret. It does not mean others should be deprived of its benefits. It only means that the road to this sacred knowledge of Kundalini is through tapasyaa & c and not through chatting on internet. -VJ ============ ========= = === , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Dear Sir,Rakesh Kumarji has issued following subject for you: > [1]If you have temple to worship with a brass bell in your house, then your horoscope and the time of birth is correct.May god bless you.(New Rule for BTR which deprives Non Hindus & Hindus) > [2]If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. >   It means Baba Ram Deoji & other Yoga teachers must be ready to search their Teflon sheet (Kavach).Let the learned & respected Vinay ji submitt more. > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Rakesh <rakesh_771119@ ...> > > Sat, March 6, 2010 5:05:00 PM > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > >  > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. > Regards, > Rakesh Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is practice, not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). -vj ================== === , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119 wrote: > > Rakesh rakesh_771119 > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > Â > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. > > Regards, > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Patanjali Yoga Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts and knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are essentially an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the science of yoga into your life. In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and sound bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines to enlightenment. The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or asana in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, Patanjali says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that — yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual awareness. The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. It is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast rules. These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through yoga. Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. 1. Yama Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt nots. There are five yamas:  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought or deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda asks Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance of harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if one could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would still hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could not serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "   Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your income taxes falls into this category. Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance to learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to celibacy. Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The person who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, as the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in all. " Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, hoarding, and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to hog the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as simple as possible. 2. Niyama Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat ourselves. These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou shalts. There are five niyamas: Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the five yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states of being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. Eat fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your body like a temple, think of this niyama.  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility by finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness in the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to grow from there. Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but to control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or purposes.  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, which are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a person starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him is the same that moves the entire universe. "  Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual upliftment.  With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Rakesh Kumar <rakesh_771119 Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra  Respected Misra Ji, As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as a query I will honor your post. . Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . Regards, Rakesh Kumar Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Sir ji, //Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms// Are all of the sutras by Maharishi Patanjali available, any missing parts? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 7:46 PM  Patanjali Yoga Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts and knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are essentially an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the science of yoga into your life. In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and sound bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines to enlightenment. The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or asana in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, Patanjali says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that — yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual awareness. The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. It is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast rules. These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through yoga. Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. 1. Yama Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt nots. There are five yamas:  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought or deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda asks Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance of harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if one could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would still hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could not serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "   Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your income taxes falls into this category. Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance to learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to celibacy. Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The person who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, as the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in all. " Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, hoarding, and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to hog the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as simple as possible. 2. Niyama Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat ourselves. These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou shalts. There are five niyamas: Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the five yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states of being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. Eat fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your body like a temple, think of this niyama.  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility by finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness in the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to grow from there. Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but to control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or purposes.  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, which are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a person starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him is the same that moves the entire universe. "  Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual upliftment.  With thanks & regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra  ____________ _________ _________ __ Rakesh Kumar <rakesh_771119@ .co. in> Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra  Respected Misra Ji, As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as a query I will honor your post. . Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . Regards, Rakesh Kumar Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Sir Vjha Ji, //Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally)// What is meant by Communion. I mean Whose Union with Whom? Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: VJha <vinayjhaa16 Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:29 PM  Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is practice, not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). -vj ============ ====== === , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Rakesh ji, > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... wrote: > > Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this group. > > Regards, > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The finest commentary on Patanjali's Yogasutra is by Sage Vyaasa Ji, known as Vyaasa-bhaashya. As far as I know it has never been translated from Sanskrit. Its Hindi summary is provided in the book " Paatanjala Yoga Pradeepa " by a practical master of Yoga and a sanyaasi Swami Omananda Teertha (published by Gitapress, Gorakhpur, a cheap book). It also includes summarised translations of two other ancient commentaries of Patanjali's sutras by great masters Bhartrhari and Vijnaanabhikshu. After Rakesh Ji reads this book thoroughly, I may like to share my personal experiences with him. -VJ , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Patanjali Yoga > > Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts and knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are essentially an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the science of yoga into your life. > > In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and sound bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines to enlightenment. > The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or asana in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, Patanjali says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that †" yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual awareness. > The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. It is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast rules. These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through yoga. Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. > > 1. Yama > > Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt nots. > > There are five yamas: > >  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought or deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda asks Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance of harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if one could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would still hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could not serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "  > >  Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your income taxes falls into this category. > Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance to learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. > > Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to celibacy. Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The person who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, as the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in all. " > Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, hoarding, and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to hog the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as simple as possible. > > 2. Niyama > Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat ourselves. These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou shalts. There are five niyamas: > Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the five yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states of being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. Eat fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your body like a temple, think of this niyama. > >  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility by finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness in the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to grow from there. > Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but to control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or purposes. > >  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, which are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a person starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him is the same that moves the entire universe. "  > Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. > > The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual upliftment. >  With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Rakesh Kumar rakesh_771119 > > Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > >  > Respected Misra Ji, > As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as a query I will honor your post. . > > Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. > > I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . > > Regards, > Rakesh Kumar > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 The literal meaning of Yoga is Communion. Atheists can seek communion of mind with body and can eat omlettes during praanaayamas. But Patanjali clearly says mind must be stopped totally. Then, real Prajnaa awakens automatically, and all questions including, Communion with whom, are automatically answered by this awakening. Till then, there is no benefit of logic in the path of Yoga : it is practice and not theory. -VJ ======================== === , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Sir Vjha Ji, //Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally)// > What is meant by Communion. I mean Whose Union with Whom? > > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > VJha <vinayjhaa16 > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:29 PM >  > > > Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is rather > > concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is practice, > > not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). > > > > -vj > > ============ ====== === > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > > > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... wrote: > > > > > > Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... > > > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > > > > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share > > his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the > > truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search > > the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but > > unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog > > sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very > > valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I > > have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic > > astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti > > the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this > > subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by > > Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this > > group. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Kulbir Ji and Vinay Jha Ji, This is correct, Shiva Sutra has clarified the matter - " Gyanam Bandhanam " . Without self experience, book readings becomes a bonding, as you see in groups. Utkal. , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > The literal meaning of Yoga is Communion. Atheists can seek communion of mind with body and can eat omlettes during praanaayamas. But Patanjali clearly says mind must be stopped totally. Then, real Prajnaa awakens automatically, and all questions including, Communion with whom, are automatically answered by this awakening. Till then, there is no benefit of logic in the path of Yoga : it is practice and not theory. > > -VJ > ======================== === > , Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ wrote: > > > > Sir Vjha Ji, //Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally)// > > What is meant by Communion. I mean Whose Union with Whom? > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, VJha vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is rather > > > > concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is practice, > > > > not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > ============ ====== === > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ....> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... > > > > > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share > > > > his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the > > > > truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search > > > > the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but > > > > unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog > > > > sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very > > > > valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I > > > > have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic > > > > astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti > > > > the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this > > > > subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by > > > > Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > > > NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 No, but seriously, that is a pretty unique idea, folks. Obviously, one would be swallowing morsels (even satwic food would be acceptable!) between breaths (to avoid choking on food), but the eating would be in rhythm with the breathing. Even the digestive system (which relies on natural rhythms as you all know) would begin to participate in the rhythm of yoga...! WAH Bhai WAH!! Rohiniranjan , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > ... Atheists can seek communion of mind with body and can eat omlettes during praanaayamas. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Sir ji, Heard some STORY about how and who scribbled these yogsutras; does the word ........ BHAKSHAM appears somewhere at the end of some shlokas ________ / missing links. i wanted to know about that. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sun, 7/3/10, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi wrote: utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 10:47 AM  Kulbir Ji and Vinay Jha Ji, This is correct, Shiva Sutra has clarified the matter - " Gyanam Bandhanam " . Without self experience, book readings becomes a bonding, as you see in groups. Utkal. , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > The literal meaning of Yoga is Communion. Atheists can seek communion of mind with body and can eat omlettes during praanaayamas. But Patanjali clearly says mind must be stopped totally. Then, real Prajnaa awakens automatically, and all questions including, Communion with whom, are automatically answered by this awakening. Till then, there is no benefit of logic in the path of Yoga : it is practice and not theory. > > -VJ > ============ ========= === === > , Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ wrote: > > > > Sir Vjha Ji, //Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally)// > > What is meant by Communion. I mean Whose Union with Whom? > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, VJha vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is rather > > > > concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is practice, > > > > not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > ============ ====== === > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ....> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... > > > > > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share > > > > his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the > > > > truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search > > > > the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but > > > > unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog > > > > sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very > > > > valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I > > > > have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic > > > > astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti > > > > the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this > > > > subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by > > > > Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > > > NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > The literal meaning of Yoga is Communion. Atheists can seek communion of mind with body and can eat omlettes during praanaayamas. But Patanjali clearly says mind must be stopped totally. Then, real Prajnaa awakens automatically, and all questions including, Communion with whom, are automatically answered by this awakening. Till then, there is no benefit of logic in the path of Yoga : it is practice and not theory. > > -VJ > ======================== === > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@> wrote: > > > > Sir Vjha Ji, //Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally)// > > What is meant by Communion. I mean Whose Union with Whom? > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > VJha <vinayjhaa16@> > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is rather > > > > concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is practice, > > > > not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > ============ ====== === > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... > > > > > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body share > > > > his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from the > > > > truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to search > > > > the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but > > > > unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog > > > > sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very > > > > valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then I > > > > have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic > > > > astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to jyoti > > > > the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on this > > > > subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed by > > > > Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > >Respected Kulbir Ji, > > Your question regarding Ishwar/God is the end of this topic.I am just trying to learn some thing about yog sutra adviced by maharishi patanjali to search the answer of your question. your kind assistance and valuable experience regarding this topic will give us right direction to under stand this topic. Regards, Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > > > NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dear Vinay Ji, I am really overawed by your range of knowledge and your studies in quite a number of very very serious subjects. Really very extra ordinary feat at such a young age. Like many other achievements of yours, being the Janak of Kundali software, despite lack of resources at your disposal, is a feather in your cap.I mean it when I say that you have worked as a real Tapaswi in your journey so far. At the same time, it sometime confuses me or may I say I feel or experience some kind of maya, when I observe you appearing in two different Roopas or on two Dharatals ! Very mundaane and then in a Rishi roopa ! Permit me to add.....like Rishi Vashisht and Rish Durvasa ! You had mentioned that the lord of your 11th house is in 4th house. Could I venture to guess that Sun is with Mercury and Rahu,exalted and retro Saturn in lagna,exalted Venus with Mars in 6th ,and Jupiter in 7th ? If only you could please oblige me by sending your birth details, I will feel honored to study it. With my best wishes and kind regards. Raj Bhardwaj , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > The finest commentary on Patanjali's Yogasutra is by Sage Vyaasa Ji, > known as Vyaasa-bhaashya. As far as I know it has never been translated > from Sanskrit. Its Hindi summary is provided in the book " Paatanjala > Yoga Pradeepa " by a practical master of Yoga and a sanyaasi Swami > Omananda Teertha (published by Gitapress, Gorakhpur, a cheap book). It > also includes summarised translations of two other ancient commentaries > of Patanjali's sutras by great masters Bhartrhari and Vijnaanabhikshu. > > After Rakesh Ji reads this book thoroughly, I may like to share my > personal experiences with him. > > -VJ > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > <dhirendranathmisra@> wrote: > > > > Patanjali Yoga > > > > Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts and > knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, > Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are essentially > an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the > science of yoga into your life. > > > > In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and sound > bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines to > enlightenment. > > The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of > yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or asana > in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, Patanjali > says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and > then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your > employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that > †" yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual awareness. > > The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. It > is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine > like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments > (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast rules. > These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through yoga. > Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. > > > > 1. Yama > > > > Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around > you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral > principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt nots. > > > > There are five yamas: > > > >  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought or > deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda asks > Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance of > harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if one > could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would still > hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could not > serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "  > > > >  Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your income > taxes falls into this category. > > Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) > orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance to > learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. > > > > Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to celibacy. > Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The person > who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, as > the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in all. " > > Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, hoarding, > and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to hog > the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as > simple as possible. > > > > 2. Niyama > > Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat ourselves. > These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou shalts. > There are five niyamas: > > Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the five > yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states of > being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. Eat > fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your body > like a temple, think of this niyama. > > > >  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility by > finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness in > the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to grow > from there. > > Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The > purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but to > control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or > purposes. > > > >  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, which > are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. > Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a person > starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) > rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that > there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him is > the same that moves the entire universe. "  > > Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be > devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. > > > > The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual > upliftment. > >  With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Rakesh Kumar rakesh_771119@ > > > > Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > >  > > Respected Misra Ji, > > As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted > the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his > house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or > not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as > a query I will honor your post. . > > > > Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding > 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge > from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing > his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a > valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. > > > > I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences > on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . > > > > Regards, > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > The finest commentary on Patanjali's Yogasutra is by Sage Vyaasa Ji, > known as Vyaasa-bhaashya. As far as I know it has never been translated > from Sanskrit. Its Hindi summary is provided in the book " Paatanjala > Yoga Pradeepa " by a practical master of Yoga and a sanyaasi Swami > Omananda Teertha (published by Gitapress, Gorakhpur, a cheap book). It > also includes summarised translations of two other ancient commentaries > of Patanjali's sutras by great masters Bhartrhari and Vijnaanabhikshu. > > After Rakesh Ji reads this book thoroughly, I may like to share my > personal experiences with him. > > -VJ > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > <dhirendranathmisra@> wrote: > > > > Patanjali Yoga > > > > Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts and > knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, > Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are essentially > an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the > science of yoga into your life. > > > > In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and sound > bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines to > enlightenment. > > The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of > yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or asana > in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, Patanjali > says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and > then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your > employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that > †" yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual awareness. > > The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. It > is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine > like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments > (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast rules. > These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through yoga. > Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. > > > > 1. Yama > > > > Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around > you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral > principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt nots. > > > > There are five yamas: > > > >  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought or > deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda asks > Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance of > harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if one > could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would still > hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could not > serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "  > > > >  Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your income > taxes falls into this category. > > Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) > orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance to > learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. > > > > Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to celibacy. > Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The person > who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, as > the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in all. " > > Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, hoarding, > and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to hog > the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as > simple as possible. > > > > 2. Niyama > > Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat ourselves. > These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou shalts. > There are five niyamas: > > Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the five > yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states of > being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. Eat > fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your body > like a temple, think of this niyama. > > > >  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility by > finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness in > the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to grow > from there. > > Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The > purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but to > control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or > purposes. > > > >  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, which > are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. > Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a person > starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) > rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that > there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him is > the same that moves the entire universe. "  > > Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be > devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. > > > > The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual > upliftment. > >  With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Rakesh Kumar rakesh_771119@ > > > > Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > >  > > Respected Misra Ji, > > As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted > the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his > house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or > not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as > a query I will honor your post. . > > > > Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding > 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge > from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing > his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a > valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. > > > > I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences > on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . > > > > Regards, > > Rakesh Kumar > > Respected Vinay Ji and Misra Ji, > > I am grateful for your your kind cooperation on this topic.First of all I want to submit that I studying that valuable book of " Geeta press Gorakhpur " since last few year and have met many yogacharyas to learn the right interpretation but I found nothing practical. Every body is quite literary, without the practical person in this field nothing can be learned.Therefore I requested all the members of this group that if any body has a practical experience not literary only, then come forward I will welcome and honor that maharishi.I am not easy on sanskrit language but can under stand hindi very well, there fore the I have read hindi translations of this book and try my best to follow it's first sutra yama which has five steps " Ahimsa,Satya, Astey,Brahmcharya and Aparigreh' as elaborated by respected Misra Ji also in this post. I honor and thankful to Misra Ji who has spare his valuable time to elaborate this topic.I am in practice of first yama the " Ahimsa " I never take any " Tamsik " thing in my food and take a pure vegetarian food cooked by my wife who is also pure vegetarian,no fast food at all.because if our food is not good we can never be able to inter this field.Trust me since last two year i am trying my best to follow this " Yama " but due to " Tamsik " environment around me I could not achieve success. So my first first question regarding 'Ahimsa " the first step of yama is what is the mother of 'Ahimsa " and how to follow that sutra.? Regards, Rakesh Kumar > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Firstly, Paatanjala Yogasutra does not have any shlokas, it has sutras. Secondly, the word " Bhaksham " does not occur anywhere in Yogasutra . Thirdly, Bhaksham is not a name of any human or inhuman being. Please find its meaning in any good Sanskrit dictionary. -VJ ===================== == , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Sir ji, Heard some STORY about how and who scribbled these yogsutras; does the word ........ BHAKSHAM appears somewhere at the end of some shlokas ________ / missing links. i wanted to know about that. > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > --- On Sun, 7/3/10, utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > utkal.panigrahi <utkal.panigrahi > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 10:47 AM >  > > > > > Kulbir Ji and Vinay Jha Ji, > > > > This is correct, Shiva Sutra has clarified the matter > > > > - " Gyanam Bandhanam " . > > > > Without self experience, book readings becomes a bonding, as you see in > > groups. > > > > Utkal. > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > The literal meaning of Yoga is Communion. Atheists can seek communion > > of mind with body and can eat omlettes during praanaayamas. But > > Patanjali clearly says mind must be stopped totally. Then, real Prajnaa > > awakens automatically, and all questions including, Communion with whom, > > are automatically answered by this awakening. Till then, there is no > > benefit of logic in the path of Yoga : it is practice and not theory. > > > > > > -VJ > > > ============ ========= === === > > > , Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir Vjha Ji, //Yogasutra is rather concerned with attaining > > Communion (=Yoga, literally)// > > > > What is meant by Communion. I mean Whose Union with Whom? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, VJha vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > > > VJha vinayjhaa16@ > > > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Description of God is not the theme of Yogasutra. Yogasutra is > > rather > > > > > > > > concerned with attaining Communion (=Yoga, literally). It is > > practice, > > > > > > > > not theory. Yoga gives tha Bala and Saamkhya gives Jnaana (-Gita). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > > > > ============ ====== === > > > > > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ > > ...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > > > To start with; What did Maharishi Patanjali say about Ishwar/God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh rakesh_771119@ ... > > > > > > > > > Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 11:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji and all the members of this group, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have posted and read much about " Snakes in dream " every body > > share > > > > > > > > his/her experience about it but I think that we are all away from > > the > > > > > > > > truth behind it.Mr. Vinay Jha have given us a little direction to > > search > > > > > > > > the truth behind it,which is only the science of yog sutra, but > > > > > > > > unfortunately there is non who is competent to explore Patanjali yog > > > > > > > > sutra. If any body has practical experience to explore this very > > > > > > > > valuable and authentic science provided by Maharishi Patanjali,then > > I > > > > > > > > have a rich and authentic question bank about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can understand that this group is only to discuss about Vedic > > > > > > > > astrology but for your kind information the jyotish word retale to > > jyoti > > > > > > > > the light the divine soul,there fore if we want to really work on > > this > > > > > > > > subjected we must go behind the truth to follow the sutras directed > > by > > > > > > > > Maharishi Patanjali.I will welcome the experienced explorer in this > > > > > > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Raj Ji, My birthchart worked well upto 1998, after which I changed my path. For years, I performed excruciating tapa : physical (=aasana-siddhi), mental (=praanaayaama) and vocal (=mauna vrata), percorming 344 praanaayaamas per day at intervals of 6 hours (86 per sitting), abstaining from sals-spices-oils in food, practising the vows of yama-niyama & c like satya, brahmacharya, etc. After a few years, I began to see the hidden meanings of ancient texts which I earlier could not notice in spite of lifelong zeal for studies. It is useless to describe in detail what I gained. One of the gains was that the hold of birthchart slackened. For instance, presently my 10th house is very bad, yet I was honoured extraordinarily in all recent astrological conferences from Patna to Allahabad. But the bad effect of 10th house was paid in the form of unwarranted abuses I received from strangers, and these abuses did not harm my work, hence I ignored them. Thus, Jyotishashaastra also proved its power and my works also did not suffer. Before 1998, this was not possible : my good works also suffered when the planets were bad. Hence, after 1998, analysis of my birthchart will disappoint you, it will not match the events of my life properly. Birthchart is the chart of results of past life. I have changed it a lot due to tapa. Many others have used soft methods of propitiation for getting out of effects of planets. I never propitiated any particular planet, but now it seems all planets are pleased with me. My Guru Ji was a far greater Durvaasaa, he kept a cane and asometimes used it too. I use only words. But you have not mentioned the inner softness of Durvaasaa Ji. He was a great sage. -VJ ==================== === , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949 wrote: > > > Dear Vinay Ji, > I am really overawed by your range of knowledge and your studies in quite a number of very very serious subjects. Really very extra ordinary feat at such a young age. Like many other achievements of yours, being the Janak of Kundali software, despite lack of resources > at your disposal, is a feather in your cap.I mean it when I say that you have worked as a real Tapaswi in your journey so far. > > At the same time, it sometime confuses me or may I say I feel or experience some kind of maya, when I observe you appearing in two different Roopas or on two Dharatals ! Very mundaane and then in a Rishi roopa ! Permit me to add.....like Rishi Vashisht and Rish Durvasa ! > > You had mentioned that the lord of your 11th house is in 4th house. Could I venture to guess that Sun is with Mercury and Rahu,exalted and retro Saturn in lagna,exalted Venus with Mars in 6th ,and Jupiter in 7th ? If only you could please oblige me by sending your birth details, I will feel honored to study it. With my best wishes and kind regards. > > Raj Bhardwaj > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > The finest commentary on Patanjali's Yogasutra is by Sage Vyaasa Ji, > > known as Vyaasa-bhaashya. As far as I know it has never been translated > > from Sanskrit. Its Hindi summary is provided in the book " Paatanjala > > Yoga Pradeepa " by a practical master of Yoga and a sanyaasi Swami > > Omananda Teertha (published by Gitapress, Gorakhpur, a cheap book). It > > also includes summarised translations of two other ancient commentaries > > of Patanjali's sutras by great masters Bhartrhari and Vijnaanabhikshu. > > > > After Rakesh Ji reads this book thoroughly, I may like to share my > > personal experiences with him. > > > > -VJ > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > <dhirendranathmisra@> wrote: > > > > > > Patanjali Yoga > > > > > > Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts and > > knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, > > Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are essentially > > an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the > > science of yoga into your life. > > > > > > In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and sound > > bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines to > > enlightenment. > > > The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of > > yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or asana > > in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, Patanjali > > says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and > > then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your > > employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that > > †" yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual awareness. > > > The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. It > > is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine > > like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments > > (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast rules. > > These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through yoga. > > Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. > > > > > > 1. Yama > > > > > > Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around > > you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral > > principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt nots. > > > > > > There are five yamas: > > > > > >  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought or > > deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda asks > > Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance of > > harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if one > > could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would still > > hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could not > > serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "  > > > > > >  Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your income > > taxes falls into this category. > > > Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) > > orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance to > > learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. > > > > > > Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to celibacy. > > Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The person > > who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, as > > the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in all. " > > > Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, hoarding, > > and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to hog > > the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as > > simple as possible. > > > > > > 2. Niyama > > > Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat ourselves. > > These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou shalts. > > There are five niyamas: > > > Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the five > > yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states of > > being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. Eat > > fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your body > > like a temple, think of this niyama. > > > > > >  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility by > > finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness in > > the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to grow > > from there. > > > Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The > > purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but to > > control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or > > purposes. > > > > > >  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, which > > are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. > > Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a person > > starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) > > rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that > > there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him is > > the same that moves the entire universe. "  > > > Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be > > devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. > > > > > > The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual > > upliftment. > > >  With thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Rakesh Kumar rakesh_771119@ > > > > > > Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM > > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > >  > > > Respected Misra Ji, > > > As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have posted > > the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at his > > house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it or > > not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it as > > a query I will honor your post. . > > > > > > Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank regarding > > 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge > > from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing > > his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing us a > > valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. > > > > > > I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and experiences > > on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dear Vinay Ji, I think you have narrated in short,what I had been imagining in past 3 months. Yes Vinay Ji, I have placed both Rishi Durvasa and Vashisht together,just to express my thoughts about your persona.You are really blessed soul. But I will now resort to my Baalhathh and seek your answer privately, if you could forgive for this Hathh of mine. With my best wishes and kind regards. Raj Bhardwaj , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > Raj Ji, > > My birthchart worked well upto 1998, after which I changed my path. For > years, I performed excruciating tapa : physical (=aasana-siddhi), mental > (=praanaayaama) and > vocal (=mauna vrata), percorming 344 praanaayaamas per day at intervals > of 6 hours (86 per sitting), abstaining from sals-spices-oils in food, > practising the vows of yama-niyama & c like satya, brahmacharya, etc. > After a few years, I began to see the hidden meanings of ancient texts > which I earlier could not notice in spite of lifelong zeal for studies. > It is useless to describe in detail what I gained. One of the gains was > that the hold of birthchart slackened. For instance, presently my 10th > house is very bad, yet I was honoured extraordinarily in all recent > astrological conferences from Patna to Allahabad. But the bad effect of > 10th house was paid in the form of unwarranted abuses I received from > strangers, and these abuses did not harm my work, hence I ignored them. > Thus, Jyotishashaastra also proved its power and my works also did not > suffer. Before 1998, this was not possible : my good works also suffered > when the planets were bad. Hence, after 1998, analysis of my birthchart > will disappoint you, it will not match the events of my life properly. > Birthchart is the chart of results of past life. I have changed it a lot > due to tapa. Many others have used soft methods of propitiation for > getting out of effects of planets. I never propitiated any particular > planet, but now it seems all planets are pleased with me. > > My Guru Ji was a far greater Durvaasaa, he kept a cane and asometimes > used it too. I use only words. But you have not mentioned the inner > softness of Durvaasaa Ji. He was a great sage. > > -VJ > ==================== === > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vinay Ji, > > I am really overawed by your range of knowledge and your studies in > quite a number of very very serious subjects. Really very extra ordinary > feat at such a young age. Like many other achievements of yours, being > the Janak of Kundali software, despite lack of resources > > at your disposal, is a feather in your cap.I mean it when I say that > you have worked as a real Tapaswi in your journey so far. > > > > At the same time, it sometime confuses me or may I say I feel or > experience some kind of maya, when I observe you appearing in two > different Roopas or on two Dharatals ! Very mundaane and then in a Rishi > roopa ! Permit me to add.....like Rishi Vashisht and Rish Durvasa ! > > > > You had mentioned that the lord of your 11th house is in 4th house. > Could I venture to guess that Sun is with Mercury and Rahu,exalted and > retro Saturn in lagna,exalted Venus with Mars in 6th ,and Jupiter in 7th > ? If only you could please oblige me by sending your birth details, I > will feel honored to study it. With my best wishes and kind regards. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > The finest commentary on Patanjali's Yogasutra is by Sage Vyaasa Ji, > > > known as Vyaasa-bhaashya. As far as I know it has never been > translated > > > from Sanskrit. Its Hindi summary is provided in the book > " Paatanjala > > > Yoga Pradeepa " by a practical master of Yoga and a sanyaasi Swami > > > Omananda Teertha (published by Gitapress, Gorakhpur, a cheap book). > It > > > also includes summarised translations of two other ancient > commentaries > > > of Patanjali's sutras by great masters Bhartrhari and > Vijnaanabhikshu. > > > > > > After Rakesh Ji reads this book thoroughly, I may like to share my > > > personal experiences with him. > > > > > > -VJ > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > <dhirendranathmisra@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Patanjali Yoga > > > > > > > > Often called the " father of yoga, " Patanjali codified his thoughts > and > > > knowledge of yoga in The Yoga Sutra of Patanjali. In this work, > > > Patanjali compiled 195 sutras or concise aphorisms that are > essentially > > > an ethical blueprint for living a moral life and incorporating the > > > science of yoga into your life. > > > > > > > > In a world where we reduce nearly everything to quick tips and > sound > > > bites, Patanjali seems to fit right in with his brief 195 guidelines > to > > > enlightenment. > > > > The Yoga Sutra is considered the fundamental text on the system of > > > yoga, and yet you wont find the description of a single posture or > asana > > > in it. This is a guide for living the right life. Essentially, > Patanjali > > > says, you can't practice asanas in yoga class, feel the stretch, and > > > then go home to play with your kids, cook a meal, yell at your > > > employees, and cheat on your taxes. There is more to yoga than that > > > †" yoga can help youcultivate body, mind, and spiritual > awareness. > > > > The heart of Patanjali's teachings is the eightfold path of yoga. > It > > > is also called the eight limbs of Patanjali, because they intertwine > > > like the branches of a tree in the forest. These aren't commandments > > > (although they sometimes sound like them), laws, or hard and fast > rules. > > > These are Patanjali's suggestions for living a better life through > yoga. > > > Here are the eight limbs of Patanjali. > > > > > > > > 1. Yama > > > > > > > > Yama is social behavior, how you treat others and the world around > > > you. ( Empathy is the most important aspect ) .These are moral > > > principles. Sometimes they are called the don'ts or the thou shalt > nots. > > > > > > > > There are five yamas: > > > > > > > >  Nonviolence (ahimsa). Do no harm to any creature in thought > or > > > deed. In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Paramahansa Yogananda > asks > > > Mahatma Gandhi the definition of ahimsa. Gandhi said, " The avoidance > of > > > harm to any living creature in thought or deed. " Yogananda asked if > one > > > could kill a cobra to protect a child. Gandhi maintained he would > still > > > hold to his vow of ahimsa, but added, " I must confess that I could > not > > > serenely carry on this conversation were I faced by a cobra. "  > > > > > > > >  Truth and honesty (satya). Tell no lies. Cheating on your > income > > > taxes falls into this category. > > > > Nonstealing (asteya). Do not steal material objects (a car) > > > orintangibles such as the center of attention or your child's chance > to > > > learn responsibility or independence by doing something on his own. > > > > > > > > Nonlust (brahmacharya) . Don't worry; this is not a call to > celibacy. > > > Many yogis of old were married and had families of their own. The > person > > > who practices brahmacharya avoids meaningless sexual encounters and, > as > > > the well-known teacher B.K.S. Iyengar puts it, " sees divinity in > all. " > > > > Nonpossessiveness (aparigraha) . Free yourself from greed, > hoarding, > > > and collecting. Do you really need more shoes, another car, or to > hog > > > the conversation every time you see your friends?Make your life as > > > simple as possible. > > > > > > > > 2. Niyama > > > > Niyama isinner discipline and responsibility, how we treat > ourselves. > > > These are sometimes called observances, the do's, or the thou > shalts. > > > There are five niyamas: > > > > Purity (shauca). Purity is achieved through the practice of the > five > > > yamas, which help clear away the negative physical and mental states > of > > > being. Keep yourself, your clothing, and your surroundings clean. > Eat > > > fresh and healthy food. The next time you joke about treating your > body > > > like a temple, think of this niyama. > > > > > > > >  Contentment (santosha). Cultivate contentment and tranquility > by > > > finding happiness with what you have and who you are. Seek happiness > in > > > the moment, take responsibility for where you are, and choose to > grow > > > from there. > > > > Austerity (tapas). Show discipline in body, speech, and mind. The > > > purpose of developing self-discipline is not to become ascetic, but > to > > > control and direct the mind and body for higher spiritual aims or > > > purposes. > > > > > > > >  Study of the sacred text (svadhyaya). Study sacred texts, > which > > > are whatever books are relevant to you and inspire and teach you. > > > Education changes a person's outlook on life. As Iyengar says, a > person > > > starts " to realize that all creation is meant for bhakti (adoration) > > > rather than for bhoga (enjoyment), that all creation is divine, that > > > there is divinity within himself and that the energy which moves him > is > > > the same that moves the entire universe. "  > > > > Living with an awareness of the Divine (ishvara-pranidhana ). Be > > > devoted to God, Buddha, or whatever you consider divine. > > > > > > > > The above mentioned Yama and Niyama are necessary for spritual > > > upliftment. > > > >  With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Rakesh Kumar rakesh_771119@ > > > > > > > > Sat, March 6, 2010 8:51:24 PM > > > > Re: Science of Patanjali yog sutra > > > > > > > >  > > > > Respected Misra Ji, > > > > As per your first issue regarding birth time correction I have > posted > > > the clarification that if that member has temple and brass bell at > his > > > house then his time of birth is correct.let us see whether he has it > or > > > not.If you want it to clarify that why it is so then you plz post it > as > > > a query I will honor your post. . > > > > > > > > Your second issue that if I have a authentic question bank > regarding > > > 'Patanjali Yog Sutra " then this is the right way to receive knowledge > > > from a well experienced person.Every body in this group is sharing > > > his/her experience and we should honor every body who is providing > us a > > > valuable knowledge like vinay Ji. > > > > > > > > I will invite vinay Ji to share his valuable comments and > experiences > > > on " Yama " the fierst step of Patanjali yog sutra . > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Sir Ji; AJA(bi) BHAsKSITA ETAT. Regards Kulbir Bains. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:56 PM, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote: > > > Firstly, Paatanjala Yogasutra does not have any shlokas, it has sutras. > > Secondly, the word " Bhaksham " does not occur anywhere in Yogasutra . > > Thirdly, Bhaksham is not a name of any human or inhuman being. Please find > its meaning in any good Sanskrit dictionary. > > -VJ > ===================== == > > <%40>, > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > > > Sir ji, Heard some STORY about how and who scribbled these yogsutras; > does the word ........ BHAKSHAM appears somewhere at the end of some shlokas > ________ / missing links. i wanted to know about that. > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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