Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Shri Tanvir Ji is occasional quizes are certainly an indication and moral booster.to the group often the group is found to be at cross roads due to varied interests of members and in wide varieties not very much akin to Astrology/jyotish/remediesof his 2.As far as the issues raised through Prashna Chart for 5th March2010 in the absence of specific time based on the basis of message as received. lagna was raising in ashwani 4th of aries.An odd and fiery sign with nakshtra lord ketu in parakrama bahva.It reflects a family matter mostly between sibblings.Dispositor mercury happened to be in 11th with jupiter and Sun.It has also impact financial issues as the dasa in prashna chart is of 9th and 12th lords. Involvemnt of 6th house through saturn indicates gains through legal and close relationships.some reconciliation and eventual gain. In the natal chart dasa of venus/sa/Mo is not a good augury it concerns 7th and 12th houses.In transit gochara Jupiter certainly of some support in checking losses by 9th aspect.Mars ofcourse malefic always takes one with health matters.so expenses . Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sat, 3/6/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Saturday, March 6, 2010, 10:35 PM  Dear Members, I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took place in my life on 5th March, 2010. The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. Anyone interested in taking a guess? Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM Patna, Bihar(India) Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Dear Lily, It is difficult to pinpoint events in the chart except as post analysis. As in life everyday, every hour is some event or other. In astrology we can say in general term whether things are good or bad or any event like marraige would happen or not, job conditions etc and how to give spritual strength to native to face any challange. Any way it appears that on that day you got results of Jupiter 1st house prestige, 11th house awards, happiness ,and 5th house performance etc. Source of event was Venus from 3rd house and 2nd house matters--,running around, putting labour, activity etc.[your chart indictes lot of activity due to 3rd house planets.]. Rahu association means public place etc. On Husband/partner front confinment due to professinal activities or other things. Inder , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > Patna, Bihar(India) > > Lilly > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 dear M/s Lilly, I am unable to digest the way u have posted ur quiz. There is a difference between u and Shri Tanvir. Tanvir owns this site and ur just a member like me and many others. If a member has to post a quiz, it shud come thro the moderator of the group. Instead u have posted a quiz and ur mail says that " u want to test the knowledge of the members who responds to ur quiz " . I think it doesnt speak good abt ur approach. I am not sure whether ur well versed in astrology like some of the learned members like shri Babu shenoy or Vattemji to test the knowledge of the fellow members. I would request the moderator to intervene and avoid such type of approaches in regards to quiz. It is my advise to M/s Lilly to avoid such approaches in the future and any discussion shud not be a testing ground it shud be a learning process. Hope u will take it in the right spirits.  regards, k.gopu --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:05 AM  Dear Members, I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took place in my life on 5th March, 2010. The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. Anyone interested in taking a guess? Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM Patna, Bihar(India) Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 || Om Namo Narayana || Namaskar Guru jis, 4-March 1976 @12:20 Answer to the quiz : 1) Travelling (2) Child birth ( 3) Income. siva , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > Patna, Bihar(India) > > Lilly > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Member,It may be matter related to purchase of a flat /land/ Vehicle.A return quiz for you.DOB of a native-07-12-1973,TOB-11:00AM,POB-Kanpur,Uttar Pradesh,India.( at present working in England).What is your opinion about-Job,Gender,Marital Status and family members.Is native suffering any problem?Your valuable knowledge will help the native. Dhirendra Nath Misra  ________________________________ Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Sun, March 7, 2010 9:05:41 AM Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event)  Dear Members, I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took place in my life on 5th March, 2010. The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. Anyone interested in taking a guess? Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM Patna, Bihar(India) Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2010 Report Share Posted March 7, 2010 Dear Members, My apologies for posting a quiz..I can assure you my intention was not to test anyone's knowledge in a negative way, but more for fun and a learning exercise.. I have already sent a personal email to the Tanvir Ji in regards to this. Lilly , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear M/s Lilly, > I am unable to digest the way u have posted ur quiz. There is > a difference between u and Shri Tanvir. Tanvir owns this site > and ur just a member like me and many others. If a member has > to post a quiz, it shud come thro the moderator of the group. > Instead u have posted a quiz and ur mail says that " u want > to test the knowledge of the members who responds to ur > quiz " . I think it doesnt speak good abt ur approach. I am not > sure whether ur well versed in astrology like some of the learned > members like shri Babu shenoy or Vattemji to test the knowledge of > the fellow members. > I would request the moderator to intervene and avoid such type > of approaches in regards to quiz. > It is my advise to M/s Lilly to avoid such approaches in the future and > any discussion shud not be a testing ground it shud be a learning > process. Hope u will take it in the right spirits. >  > regards, > k.gopu > > > > --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:05 AM > > >  > > > > > Dear Members, > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > Patna, Bihar(India) > > Lilly > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dear Lilly, In my analysis, you were in Bihar during this period and turned to be a " Cactus Lilly " and now again you are back to be " Tigress Lilly " ,having posted your quiz-edition-2. Great times ahead for you now onwards and no looking back! Raj Bhardwaj , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > My apologies for posting a quiz..I can assure you my intention was not to test anyone's knowledge in a negative way, but more for fun and a learning exercise.. I have already sent a personal email to the Tanvir Ji in regards to this. > > Lilly > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > dear M/s Lilly, > > I am unable to digest the way u have posted ur quiz. There is > > a difference between u and Shri Tanvir. Tanvir owns this site > > and ur just a member like me and many others. If a member has > > to post a quiz, it shud come thro the moderator of the group. > > Instead u have posted a quiz and ur mail says that " u want > > to test the knowledge of the members who responds to ur > > quiz " . I think it doesnt speak good abt ur approach. I am not > > sure whether ur well versed in astrology like some of the learned > > members like shri Babu shenoy or Vattemji to test the knowledge of > > the fellow members. > > I would request the moderator to intervene and avoid such type > > of approaches in regards to quiz. > > It is my advise to M/s Lilly to avoid such approaches in the future and > > any discussion shud not be a testing ground it shud be a learning > > process. Hope u will take it in the right spirits. > >  > > regards, > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:05 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > Lilly > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Dear Lilly, Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures... they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. All the best Tanvir , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > Patna, Bihar(India) > > Lilly > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. Lilly , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex wrote: > > Dear Lilly, > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures... they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > All the best > Tanvir > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Sorry Lilly I don't really have enough time to read all the posts... concentration problem and hard to follow what's happening. Bad moderator LOL I simply believe it was an unwilling misunderstanding between you and Kopu Ji. And I really don't know who have willingly humiliated you here, if it happens again then please post specific complaints to me or Prashant Ji, we will take action. When will you post the answer in JR? Tanvir , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > Lilly > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures... they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > All the best > > Tanvir > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dear shri tanvirji, I would like to make a few clarifications since the mail to M/s.Lilly has originated from my end. I suppose u will agree in a big group like JR, certain procedures has to be followed so that the group function can be smooth and harmonious. This lady all of a sudden is posting a quiz and saying that it is an opportunity to test the knowledge of the fellow astrologers. Any member on reading her mail will not like the way she has presented. she has a good command over English language, when such is the case one has to be careful in wording the sentence and shud not take the group for granted. There is no question of humiliating this member, it is only pointing out her mistake and requesting her not to repeat the same. A few of the senior astrologer members have also expressed displeasure to her mail contents and they have directly written to me with a good intention of not making it into an issue.  Once again I would suggest that any quiz from the members shud come thro the moderator or thro you.  regards, k.gopu --- On Tue, 3/9/10, king_tanvir <lord_rex wrote: king_tanvir <lord_rex Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:41 AM  Sorry Lilly I don't really have enough time to read all the posts... concentration problem and hard to follow what's happening. Bad moderator LOL I simply believe it was an unwilling misunderstanding between you and Kopu Ji. And I really don't know who have willingly humiliated you here, if it happens again then please post specific complaints to me or Prashant Ji, we will take action. When will you post the answer in JR? Tanvir , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > Lilly > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > All the best > > Tanvir > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Lilly well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. Lilly , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@.. .> wrote: > > Dear Lilly, > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > All the best > Tanvir > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 You are right, Prashant jee! Communication is a gift indeed. But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! The speaker and the listener! And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) Regards, Rohiniranjan , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Lilly > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > Lilly > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > All the best > > Tanvir > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Prashant Ji, I am not sure why people have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, especially since I have already apologized the first time around. All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect. My post was not even directed towards anyone in particular, so I am not sure why some members are getting all upset! Lilly , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Lilly > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005 > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > Lilly > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > All the best > > Tanvir > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Lilly pl revisit the msgs u can find a clue there, u too have felt humiliated why u cud have also ignored it in the right spirit. but I do appreciate the apology u did offern in the 1st instance itself. but later whatever has happened must have been handled by all with some discretion from individual ends. I hope this ends here soon any further grievances let me know in private than grp space. i repeat each one of us have to do the needful be patient 1st. - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Lilly <tigresslilly2005 Tue, March 9, 2010 9:28:10 AM Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Prashant Ji, I am not sure why people have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, especially since I have already apologized the first time around. All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect. My post was not even directed towards anyone in particular, so I am not sure why some members are getting all upset! Lilly , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Lilly > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > Lilly > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > All the best > > Tanvir > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Hi Lilly betaa, Thanks for your email. How are you doing? Should you not be resting and recuperating rather than taking on all this grief? Please give my regards to your 'Baba'. He raised a very strong daughter indeed! But SHE must conserve power and REST now!! Affectionate Blessings and PEACE!! :-) Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Prashant Ji, > > I am not sure why people have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, especially since I have already apologized the first time around. All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect. My post was not even directed towards anyone in particular, so I am not sure why some members are getting all upset! > > Lilly > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Lilly > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > All the best > > > Tanvir > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dear Friends, I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly.Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication.The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM  You are right, Prashant jee! Communication is a gift indeed. But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! The speaker and the listener! And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) Regards, Rohiniranjan , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..> wrote: > > Lilly > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > Lilly > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > All the best > > Tanvir > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Communication: We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. :-) Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly.Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication.The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM >  > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dear Rohini Ji, Such write ups help more than quiz and it is only the frame of mind.Only placard.Board I prefer to display " lot to learn " an dprepare myself to accept others Two way street and to aid some deliberate signals that indicates needs to be practised.Mute and mook is always best but one should get it slowly with proper orientation.Maa,Papa have their own wishes.it is our efforts to work in that direction even when they may not spurvise and guide. Yeah,every one of us learn be experience and grown and saturn's cycles have to be experiences.he prescribes a self learning Mannual which han no other prescription that can help us.Instead of Mee...... and I...... etc their plurality is an art as v r not whole and never a big I.So I adopt drooping shoulders with certain wish to " bless me to learn " Makes me green and helps me to smile and never to grin and grumble. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:27 AM  Communication: We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. :-) Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly. Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication. The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Thank you kindly, Krishnan dada :-) If I were to die this very instant and Yamraj asked me what I have learned during my very short liftime, my answer would be: Perception is Reality in Mrityuloka And all THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT or ATAL! , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > Such write ups help more than quiz and it is only the frame of mind.Only placard.Board I prefer to display " lot to learn " an dprepare myself to accept others > Two way street and to aid some deliberate signals that indicates needs to be practised.Mute and mook is always best but one should get it slowly with proper orientation.Maa,Papa have their own wishes.it is our efforts to work in that direction even when they may not spurvise and guide. > Yeah,every one of us learn be experience and grown and saturn's cycles have to be experiences.he prescribes a self learning Mannual which han no other prescription that can help us.Instead of Mee...... and I...... etc their plurality is an art as v r not whole and never a big I.So I adopt drooping shoulders with certain wish to " bless me to learn " Makes me green and helps me to smile and never to grin and grumble. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:27 AM >  > > > Communication: > > > > We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! > > > > Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! > > > > That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! > > > > It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! > > > > At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. > > > > :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly. Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication. The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > > > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > > > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > > > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > > > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > > > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > > > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > > > > > > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. .. they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dear Friends, IN the PAC context://All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect.//.what matters is two way communications. I just recall to Parent ,Adult and Child equations of managerial aspects and communication system. In fact a child may communicate like an adult.An adult might be a parent or even a child.It all matters in public speeches and addresses. Any way are here basically to learn and improve but with some patience.Apologies not required at all.we know adults will not volunteer.Just prepared to exchange and communicate with PAC style. Not as as Planets as Position,ASpect and combustion/Conjunct.These are variables. The other communication world is a modulation and exchange.A Child is never reprimanded and made helpless. Feel free to be a part of the group and no need to be in hurry.Learning is a passive attitude.As my colleague rightly mentioned it's saturn 's cycles that helps us to be mature. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:44 PM  Hi Lilly betaa, Thanks for your email. How are you doing? Should you not be resting and recuperating rather than taking on all this grief? Please give my regards to your 'Baba'. He raised a very strong daughter indeed! But SHE must conserve power and REST now!! Affectionate Blessings and PEACE!! :-) Rohiniranjan , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > Prashant Ji, > > I am not sure why people have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, especially since I have already apologized the first time around. All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect. My post was not even directed towards anyone in particular, so I am not sure why some members are getting all upset! > > Lilly > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Lilly > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > All the best > > > Tanvir > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT :Maheswar/God /Almighty that gives confidence.No matter aabout LOK.be it mrityu,swarga,rakshasa and deva.preparedness tobe aprt P:PREM R:RECONCILE (E):ENDEAVOR?EFFORT M:Maheswar/Mahbhagya Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 1:16 AM  Thank you kindly, Krishnan dada :-) If I were to die this very instant and Yamraj asked me what I have learned during my very short liftime, my answer would be: Perception is Reality in Mrityuloka And all THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT or ATAL! , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ji, > Such write ups help more than quiz and it is only the frame of mind.Only placard.Board I prefer to display " lot to learn " an dprepare myself to accept others > Two way street and to aid some deliberate signals that indicates needs to be practised.Mute and mook is always best but one should get it slowly with proper orientation. Maa,Papa have their own wishes.it is our efforts to work in that direction even when they may not spurvise and guide. > Yeah,every one of us learn be experience and grown and saturn's cycles have to be experiences. he prescribes a self learning Mannual which han no other prescription that can help us.Instead of Mee...... and I...... etc their plurality is an art as v r not whole and never a big I.So I adopt drooping shoulders with certain wish to " bless me to learn " Makes me green and helps me to smile and never to grin and grumble. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:27 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Communication: > > > > We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! > > > > Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! > > > > That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! > > > > It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! > > > > At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. > > > > :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly. Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication. The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > > > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > > > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > > > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > > > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > > > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > > > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > > > > > > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. .. they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Eric Berne -- Games People Play! :-) What a Simran you brought to me, Dada! From 1975!! Your next message may bring on MORE DAREs, hopefully? ;-) RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Friends, > IN the PAC context://All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect.//.what matters is two way communications. > I just recall to Parent ,Adult and Child equations of managerial aspects and communication system. > In fact a child may communicate like an adult.An adult might be a parent or even a child.It all matters in public speeches and addresses. > Any way are here basically to learn and improve but with some patience.Apologies not required at all.we know adults will not volunteer.Just prepared to exchange and communicate with PAC style. > Not as as Planets as Position,ASpect and combustion/Conjunct.These are variables. > The other communication world is a modulation and exchange.A Child is never reprimanded and made helpless. > Feel free to be a part of the group and no need to be in hurry.Learning is a passive attitude.As my colleague rightly mentioned it's saturn 's cycles that helps us to be mature. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:44 PM >  > > > Hi Lilly betaa, > > > > Thanks for your email. How are you doing? > > > > Should you not be resting and recuperating rather than taking on all this grief? > > > > Please give my regards to your 'Baba'. He raised a very strong daughter indeed! But SHE must conserve power and REST now!! > > > > Affectionate Blessings and PEACE!! :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant Ji, > > > > > > I am not sure why people have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, especially since I have already apologized the first time around. All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect. My post was not even directed towards anyone in particular, so I am not sure why some members are getting all upset! > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > > > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. .. they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 As soon as a <fourth> chaturtha/turya enters the communication (original thread and question!) even when surrounded by brackets, the trikon risks getting muddied by the chatushpad KENDRAS! I suppose by Endeavour/Effort you were implying the EPOCH that determines the lagna which is both a triplicity and a quadruplicity: Trikona and Kendra! The PRITHVI on which the TRIMURTI rests! The feet that we must observe before the skies become a reality! We better stop before we (or one of us...?) gets ousted (yet again!) or attacked by the mob, yet again! It is sad that Avatar the grand movie did not win any Oscars, this year! But there will always be the next year... , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT :Maheswar/God /Almighty that gives confidence.No matter aabout LOK.be it mrityu,swarga,rakshasa and deva.preparedness tobe aprt > P:PREM > R:RECONCILE > (E):ENDEAVOR?EFFORT > M:Maheswar/Mahbhagya > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 1:16 AM >  > > > Thank you kindly, Krishnan dada :-) > > > > If I were to die this very instant and Yamraj asked me what I have learned during my very short liftime, my answer would be: > > > > Perception is Reality in Mrityuloka > > > > And all THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT or ATAL! > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > Such write ups help more than quiz and it is only the frame of mind.Only placard.Board I prefer to display " lot to learn " an dprepare myself to accept others > > > Two way street and to aid some deliberate signals that indicates needs to be practised.Mute and mook is always best but one should get it slowly with proper orientation. Maa,Papa have their own wishes.it is our efforts to work in that direction even when they may not spurvise and guide. > > > Yeah,every one of us learn be experience and grown and saturn's cycles have to be experiences. he prescribes a self learning Mannual which han no other prescription that can help us.Instead of Mee...... and I...... etc their plurality is an art as v r not whole and never a big I.So I adopt drooping shoulders with certain wish to " bless me to learn " Makes me green and helps me to smile and never to grin and grumble. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication: > > > > > > > > > > > > We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! > > > > > > > > > > > > That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! > > > > > > > > > > > > At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly. Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication. The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > > > > > > > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > > > > > > > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > > > > > > > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > > > > > > > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > > > > > > > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > > > > > > > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Sir, Some I am not comfortable as of now with Chatushapadas and trikonas.Some how trikonas are first come first and then Kendras to steal attention and Glory War materials carry sympathy after it subsides.During war apathy.But I mean no incarnation...Avatar:has best visulas ,best editing and best scientific presentation. A story of warriors The Hurt Locker stole the show Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:04 AM  As soon as a <fourth> chaturtha/turya enters the communication (original thread and question!) even when surrounded by brackets, the trikon risks getting muddied by the chatushpad KENDRAS! I suppose by Endeavour/Effort you were implying the EPOCH that determines the lagna which is both a triplicity and a quadruplicity: Trikona and Kendra! The PRITHVI on which the TRIMURTI rests! The feet that we must observe before the skies become a reality! We better stop before we (or one of us...?) gets ousted (yet again!) or attacked by the mob, yet again! It is sad that Avatar the grand movie did not win any Oscars, this year! But there will always be the next year... , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT :Maheswar/God /Almighty that gives confidence.No matter aabout LOK.be it mrityu,swarga, rakshasa and deva.preparedness tobe aprt > P:PREM > R:RECONCILE > (E):ENDEAVOR? EFFORT > M:Maheswar/Mahbhagy a > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Thank you kindly, Krishnan dada :-) > > > > If I were to die this very instant and Yamraj asked me what I have learned during my very short liftime, my answer would be: > > > > Perception is Reality in Mrityuloka > > > > And all THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT or ATAL! > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > Such write ups help more than quiz and it is only the frame of mind.Only placard.Board I prefer to display " lot to learn " an dprepare myself to accept others > > > Two way street and to aid some deliberate signals that indicates needs to be practised.Mute and mook is always best but one should get it slowly with proper orientation. Maa,Papa have their own wishes.it is our efforts to work in that direction even when they may not spurvise and guide. > > > Yeah,every one of us learn be experience and grown and saturn's cycles have to be experiences. he prescribes a self learning Mannual which han no other prescription that can help us.Instead of Mee...... and I...... etc their plurality is an art as v r not whole and never a big I.So I adopt drooping shoulders with certain wish to " bless me to learn " Makes me green and helps me to smile and never to grin and grumble. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication: > > > > > > > > > > > > We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! > > > > > > > > > > > > That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! > > > > > > > > > > > > At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly. Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication. The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > > > > > > > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > > > > > > > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > > > > > > > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > > > > > > > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > > > > > > > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > > > > > > > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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