Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Dear Lilly, I had given my analysis in QUIZical way ! Let me explain now. When I said you were in Bihar, it meant someone from your place of birth. When I wrote that you became " Cactus Lilly " ,it means the Tigeress was engangled in the jungle of Thorns and in great pain, and somehow it got itself released . Lastly I wrote about a good and bright future. So, after the painful experience, Sukha has to come back in life. I used the metaphor of *CACTUS*, because the offensive under the Indo-Pak War by India (to get freedom for bleeding East Bengal)was named ' " OPERATION CACTUS LILLY " , and Bangladesh came into being! I wish yuou all the peace and sukhas in the coming times. Raj Bhardwaj , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005 wrote: > > Prashant Ji, > > I am not sure why people have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, especially since I have already apologized the first time around. All of us are adults here and want to be treated with the same respect. My post was not even directed towards anyone in particular, so I am not sure why some members are getting all upset! > > Lilly > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Lilly > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@> > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > Lilly > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > All the best > > > Tanvir > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Agreed ,Dada.Your message inspires me(feet of lord Vishnu towards Sky) and reminds of ancient lore about Vastu and it's affinity jyotish.Is it vastu dawned b4 Jyotish. promise .This is my penultimate doubt.Ofcourse q2 was atteneded and now I have 2 c whether i will have same fate as Avatarr. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:04 AM  As soon as a <fourth> chaturtha/turya enters the communication (original thread and question!) even when surrounded by brackets, the trikon risks getting muddied by the chatushpad KENDRAS! I suppose by Endeavour/Effort you were implying the EPOCH that determines the lagna which is both a triplicity and a quadruplicity: Trikona and Kendra! The PRITHVI on which the TRIMURTI rests! The feet that we must observe before the skies become a reality! We better stop before we (or one of us...?) gets ousted (yet again!) or attacked by the mob, yet again! It is sad that Avatar the grand movie did not win any Oscars, this year! But there will always be the next year... , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT :Maheswar/God /Almighty that gives confidence.No matter aabout LOK.be it mrityu,swarga, rakshasa and deva.preparedness tobe aprt > P:PREM > R:RECONCILE > (E):ENDEAVOR? EFFORT > M:Maheswar/Mahbhagy a > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Thank you kindly, Krishnan dada :-) > > > > If I were to die this very instant and Yamraj asked me what I have learned during my very short liftime, my answer would be: > > > > Perception is Reality in Mrityuloka > > > > And all THREE of them are anything but CONSTANT or ATAL! > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ji, > > > Such write ups help more than quiz and it is only the frame of mind.Only placard.Board I prefer to display " lot to learn " an dprepare myself to accept others > > > Two way street and to aid some deliberate signals that indicates needs to be practised.Mute and mook is always best but one should get it slowly with proper orientation. Maa,Papa have their own wishes.it is our efforts to work in that direction even when they may not spurvise and guide. > > > Yeah,every one of us learn be experience and grown and saturn's cycles have to be experiences. he prescribes a self learning Mannual which han no other prescription that can help us.Instead of Mee...... and I...... etc their plurality is an art as v r not whole and never a big I.So I adopt drooping shoulders with certain wish to " bless me to learn " Makes me green and helps me to smile and never to grin and grumble. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:27 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication: > > > > > > > > > > > > We all regardless of individuality, gender and perhaps even species etc arrive in this reality MUTE and MOOK! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet in MOST cases our mothers (and if we are lucky our fathers too!) understand us PURRFECTLY! > > > > > > > > > > > > That WORD-LESS communication is what we must never forget and try to emulate, dada! > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not about words or syntax, but what we say and as long as it harmonizes with " WHAT WE WERE SENT HERE TO SAY " , Ma and Baba let us say our piece without interference or CENSURE! > > > > > > > > > > > > At least that has been my experience -- not too long but certainly a bit longer than what takes for saturn to go around more than once. > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > I want make it very clear it is one's own comprehension and ability to percieve positive aspects from public plat for like this.The effort is to endure and see what best is offered.As human being we r falliable .Possibly we must have slighted unknowingly. Shri Tanvir ji is forth right in his communication. The disparity in communication lveles is a fact and needs acceptance without any rumblings.Iam person non grata. > > > > > > > Over the years Iam certainly a person got benefited from communication point of view in JR.I have taken several problems of others and also shared my problems with many in the group by virtue of my participation over a decade. > > > > > > > Several members have helped and tried their best to impart their skills and understandings and yet others might have got annoyed and faulted me.I do not ofcourse remember and never made an occasion to grumble complaint as one among several others. > > > > > > > The group has several members with the best communication skills as well a great deal of understanding and knowledge of Astrology.Their views most sound and logical have always improved morale and I could gian from them. > > > > > > > quiz should not have become an issue to make as header for discussions leaving several other basic issues that concerns day to day life. > > > > > > > In day today there will be happenings taking place in evry one's life.They might have a telling effect on the future and course of life.But such incidents except unexpected happenings and accidents ,there may not be issues that may bother us in our future. > > > > > > > Some times sudden losses,thefts or some body's serious illness too that bother us.Advice for such happening can of course be sought through jyotish.certainly in forums like this,endeavor is to elicit and understand and moderate to the extent feasible as well as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right, Prashant jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communication is a gift indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But it takes TWO to do this tango as the expression goes! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The speaker and the listener! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And BOTH must be sincere and fully DEVOTED and ready to COMMUNICATE (the two-way street!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without that, there will always be offended feelings and anger and complaints and man-mutaaw, BUT no :-) or ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well u must have written to me if u feel humiliated or treated differently along side tanvir ji or me directly then to tanvir ji we can see the entire thread to comment on them, I have read just a few of them, whatever it be both sides seem to feel so so it is easier to sort it out in peace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and whatever it be it is a clear case of misunderstanding the msg as the construction seems to have upset a few members who have been in JR much before I was so, pl take care on such sensitive issues I can do whatever is needed to restore order in the grp at all times it is the subject not individuals that are sacred at the same time values like some elders, well, strongly knowledgeable members also need to giventheir due > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quizes r welcome but I had written earlier on this thread if it had followed a lead discussion for a few messages and turned to q quic ppl wud have taken it inthe right spirit above all no challange on the personalities of any one can be seen lightly by such a massive grp so construction of it in simple words with a rider that no offense is meant onthis if any appears can go a long way in helping prevent any untoward situations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take things in the right spirit, lets know when u will post the answer to it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tue, March 9, 2010 2:31:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Tanvir Ji for your heartfelt and understanding post! I will send you a private email about this situation since some members of this group have publicly humiliated me here, and put me down to make themselves appear superior..I think you know who they are if you have been following the post.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " king_tanvir " <lord_rex@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lilly, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes members can [unwillingly] take a wrong meaning of your words. There is nothing wrong with that really, as long as your intention and heart was right. It was just a simple misunderstanding. I have suffered a lot [like this] while speaking publicly like this [we have a 10,000+ members audience] I guess it was out of your simplicity :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, quizzes are fun way to learn Jyotisha and see how you learning, and real life events are the only genuine way to learn Jyotish. I have a shelf full of Jyotish books [Once I visited India for 1 day just to buy them!] but always was frustrated the things they taught [mostly]... I have never found a book which could teach me some Jyotish, others please perdon me, may be I am a bad learner... but whatever I have learnt [or I felt that I learned] are from real life case studies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True Jyotish significantly differs from the books and even scriptures.. . they can just give you some ideas, but never teach you how it all happens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, quizzes are not always the best way to test one's skill, since to err is human and in Jyotish a part of it always are in the darkness that is why we can really never know something that God doesn't want us to. And that is the power, and beauty of divinity - it always is a lot smarter than us, I feel it always, trust me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But yes, analyzing quizzes / real life events are great for learning. You are never a good Jyotisha unless you have well and logically explained ALL the past events that happened in the lives of people around you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my hasty attempt about your quiz - first, I HATE to read charts [i swear] because I lack in the concentration that I need for it, and so many matters over my head to think about [my business, personal life]... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seeing your chart - having a baby is the first thing that comes to my mind... However I didn't see the transit chart, may be it had other things to indicate. If it's wrong then I see some serious health issue, surgeries or operation. If these two are wrong then I can only say that an evil 8th house damaging the 9th - nothing more I can say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even if it was a childbirth, you had a tough time with the delivery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Lilly " <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place in my life on 5th March, 2010. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone interested in taking a guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patna, Bihar(India) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lilly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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