Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 dear jyotisas, namaste. i read a hindi translation of BPHS , which states that planets occupying divisons of kendra lords from swa-arudha are considered as good placements in a specific varga other than being in own or exaltation sign. so that book states that , for example moon is in aries in rasi chart , so treating moon itself as AL for moon's placements in varga , if moon should occupy mangal , moon , venus or saturn amsas (since moon in aries would give 1,4,7,10 signs as kendra and thus their respective lords being mangal , moon , venus and saturn) would qualify moon for a vaisheshika in that specific varga. but the question is that , if moon occupies tauras in d-3 , it has acquired vaisheshikamsa as per definition above as it is occupying venus amsa who is a kendra lord from him in rasi , what happens if moon in tauras is in inmical avashta as per panchdha in d-3? would moon still do good for a native regarding d-3 affairs due to good vaisheshikamsa placement ? is this method of calculation of vaisheshikamsa any good @ all ? or what is the corrrect method.? and what happens if a planet has good shadbala and very high vaisheshikamsa score like 10/16 , but has very low rashmi bala in rashi chart itself? comments please. chandan singh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Sir, Panchadha maitri in divisional chart,particulalrly in drekkana(D/3) has no relevance.As per vaisheshikamsa.Moon strength is very good.For Moon taurus is moolarikona also,besides becoming uccha. The calculation is based on longitude of the planets as it indicates strength 2.The concept of Arudha lagna is governed by jaiminsutras.indicates number places birth lord is replaced from Lagna It is said as Vaiseshikamsa as moon attains uccha in Vrishbha as from kataka of moon vrishbha is ekadasa(11th H).Planets in 11th and particularly in specific degrees are special or otherwis viseeshika. 3.Since D/3 referred to sibblings besides for health concerns,the native enjoys more or less good health.His coborns too must be well placed.. However venus and moon being feminine planets,they refer to the personality and the person will be shy but anxious about opposite gender. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 3/10/10, chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies wrote: chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies Calculation of Vaisheshikamsa Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 4:17 AM  dear jyotisas, namaste. i read a hindi translation of BPHS , which states that planets occupying divisons of kendra lords from swa-arudha are considered as good placements in a specific varga other than being in own or exaltation sign. so that book states that , for example moon is in aries in rasi chart , so treating moon itself as AL for moon's placements in varga , if moon should occupy mangal , moon , venus or saturn amsas (since moon in aries would give 1,4,7,10 signs as kendra and thus their respective lords being mangal , moon , venus and saturn) would qualify moon for a vaisheshika in that specific varga. but the question is that , if moon occupies tauras in d-3 , it has acquired vaisheshikamsa as per definition above as it is occupying venus amsa who is a kendra lord from him in rasi , what happens if moon in tauras is in inmical avashta as per panchdha in d-3? would moon still do good for a native regarding d-3 affairs due to good vaisheshikamsa placement ? is this method of calculation of vaisheshikamsa any good @ all ? or what is the corrrect method.? and what happens if a planet has good shadbala and very high vaisheshikamsa score like 10/16 , but has very low rashmi bala in rashi chart itself? comments please. chandan singh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 dear krishnan ji, you have not understood my point. firstly i disagree with you that panchadha sambandha does not apply in divisional charts , as bphs itself uses panchadha sambandha when calculating saptavargaja bala as a part of Shadbala calculation where planets are awarded ankas based upon their compound relationshiops. so panchadha sambandhas are very much applicable in vargas as well. secondly its not about the moon being in tauras , its about the moon occupying a venusian varga , say libra for example. but at the same time libra happens to be great enemy sign for moon , then which predominates? the vaisheshikamsa earned by moon due to being a in varga of a kendra lord from himself in rasi or the inauspiciousness due to great enemy sign placement completely overrides the vaisheshikamsa criteria? best regards, chandan singh. , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir, > Panchadha maitri in divisional chart,particulalrly in drekkana(D/3) has no relevance.As per vaisheshikamsa.Moon strength is very good.For Moon taurus is moolarikona also,besides becoming uccha. > The calculation is based on longitude of the planets as it indicates strength > 2.The concept of Arudha lagna is governed by jaiminsutras.indicates number places birth lord is replaced from Lagna > It is said as Vaiseshikamsa as moon attains uccha in Vrishbha as from kataka of moon vrishbha is ekadasa(11th H).Planets in 11th and particularly in specific degrees are special or otherwis viseeshika. > 3.Since D/3 referred to sibblings besides for health concerns,the native enjoys more or less good health.His coborns too must be well placed.. > However venus and moon being feminine planets,they refer to the personality and the person will be shy but anxious about opposite gender. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/10/10, chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies wrote: > > chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies > Calculation of Vaisheshikamsa > > Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 4:17 AM >  > > > dear jyotisas, > > > > namaste. > > > > i read a hindi translation of BPHS , which states that planets occupying divisons of kendra lords from swa-arudha are considered as good placements in a specific varga other than being in own or exaltation sign. > > > > so that book states that , for example moon is in aries in rasi chart , so treating moon itself as AL for moon's placements in varga , if moon should occupy mangal , moon , venus or saturn amsas (since moon in aries would give 1,4,7,10 signs as kendra and thus their respective lords being mangal , moon , venus and saturn) would qualify moon for a vaisheshika in that specific varga. > > > > but the question is that , if moon occupies tauras in d-3 , it has acquired vaisheshikamsa as per definition above as it is occupying venus amsa who is a kendra lord from him in rasi , what happens if moon in tauras is in inmical avashta as per panchdha in d-3? > > > > would moon still do good for a native regarding d-3 affairs due to good vaisheshikamsa placement ? > > > > > > is this method of calculation of vaisheshikamsa any good @ all ? or what is the corrrect method.? > > > > and what happens if a planet has good shadbala and very high vaisheshikamsa score like 10/16 , but has very low rashmi bala in rashi chart itself? > comments please. > > chandan singh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Dear Sir, Thank YouShri Chnadan ji, for elaberation of the concept concerning divisional charts ..I reflected my views as the importance of varga charts,role of planetary aspects was discussed in other groups. As far as page 88 of BPHs(vol1) chapter 6.the notes i was quote " the divisions of owners of the four angles counted from the arudha pada or pada lagna,(unquote) Page 89 para 7 quote " the sage suggests that the signs owned by the lords of Arudha lagna and its angles are considered good for varga division..unquote. For my conveneience and understanding I have taken reference from Shri R.Santhanam 1984 vol!. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 3/11/10, chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies wrote: chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishremedies Re: Calculation of Vaisheshikamsa Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:44 AM  dear krishnan ji, you have not understood my point. firstly i disagree with you that panchadha sambandha does not apply in divisional charts , as bphs itself uses panchadha sambandha when calculating saptavargaja bala as a part of Shadbala calculation where planets are awarded ankas based upon their compound relationshiops. so panchadha sambandhas are very much applicable in vargas as well. secondly its not about the moon being in tauras , its about the moon occupying a venusian varga , say libra for example. but at the same time libra happens to be great enemy sign for moon , then which predominates? the vaisheshikamsa earned by moon due to being a in varga of a kendra lord from himself in rasi or the inauspiciousness due to great enemy sign placement completely overrides the vaisheshikamsa criteria? best regards, chandan singh. , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Sir, > Panchadha maitri in divisional chart,particulalrly in drekkana(D/3) has no relevance.As per vaisheshikamsa. Moon strength is very good.For Moon taurus is moolarikona also,besides becoming uccha. > The calculation is based on longitude of the planets as it indicates strength > 2.The concept of Arudha lagna is governed by jaiminsutras. indicates number places birth lord is replaced from Lagna > It is said as Vaiseshikamsa as moon attains uccha in Vrishbha as from kataka of moon vrishbha is ekadasa(11th H).Planets in 11th and particularly in specific degrees are special or otherwis viseeshika. > 3.Since D/3 referred to sibblings besides for health concerns,the native enjoys more or less good health.His coborns too must be well placed.. > However venus and moon being feminine planets,they refer to the personality and the person will be shy but anxious about opposite gender. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/10/10, chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishr emedies@. ..> wrote: > > chandan s sabarwal <wavelogix+jyotishr emedies@. ..> > Calculation of Vaisheshikamsa > > Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 4:17 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > dear jyotisas, > > > > namaste. > > > > i read a hindi translation of BPHS , which states that planets occupying divisons of kendra lords from swa-arudha are considered as good placements in a specific varga other than being in own or exaltation sign. > > > > so that book states that , for example moon is in aries in rasi chart , so treating moon itself as AL for moon's placements in varga , if moon should occupy mangal , moon , venus or saturn amsas (since moon in aries would give 1,4,7,10 signs as kendra and thus their respective lords being mangal , moon , venus and saturn) would qualify moon for a vaisheshika in that specific varga. > > > > but the question is that , if moon occupies tauras in d-3 , it has acquired vaisheshikamsa as per definition above as it is occupying venus amsa who is a kendra lord from him in rasi , what happens if moon in tauras is in inmical avashta as per panchdha in d-3? > > > > would moon still do good for a native regarding d-3 affairs due to good vaisheshikamsa placement ? > > > > > > is this method of calculation of vaisheshikamsa any good @ all ? or what is the corrrect method.? > > > > and what happens if a planet has good shadbala and very high vaisheshikamsa score like 10/16 , but has very low rashmi bala in rashi chart itself? > > > > > > > > comments please. > > chandan singh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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