Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Respected Members, Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the truth behind it. Regards, Rakesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Ask the " GOPIs " (the REAL ONEs ;-) and you may find the answer...) We often talk and think of God and their incarnations and awataars but rarely the puny *humans* that touched their lives: Questions such as: Who was Sujata? Sudama?? Sister Nivedita??? I will stop there, although a more recent example exists within the past 100 years! But may be too close for comfort in this multi-cultural forum!! Rohiniranjan , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119 wrote: > > Respected Members, > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the truth behind it. > > Regards, > > Rakesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Whose shelter Buddha had taken, Who provided shelter to Buddha ? Why one needs to goto Buddha ....., Understand what was buddha, Follow the way Buddha discovered he is a Buddha. Be a Buddha and take shelter provided by yourself, You as a soul is shelter for yourself.Accept your karmas .... and purge them. Instead of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Upnisad's have better proposition - " So-Aham " = Me, Myself is God. " Tat Tvam Asi " = You Yourself is God. " Ayam Aatma Brham " = Me is the soul that is God. How to do that ? You need to have courage to fight and tear of your's weakness and mistrust that you can loose any thing in this world, no, you dont loose any thing. " Na - Ayam Atma Bal Hinen Labhayah .. " Me soul is no accessible to powerless, power is within you, have confidence and that's end of the doubts. Utkal. , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119 wrote: > > Respected Members, > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the truth behind it. > > Regards, > > Rakesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Before all these soothing sounds arrived, Vedic and thereafter, in the last several thousands of years from now behind us, I feel that there existed humans, although modern folks may not consider them so -- their very own ancestors -- tragically if one were to pay attention! Before all these soothing ancient and vedic sounds arrived -- what existed? When human had not learned to speak and express and through words insult and assault, what existed? Before cognition arrived and we became individuals, and learned to read, speak, argue, WHO was looking after us individually and before we became so wise and perhaps TOO WISE? An adage in biology states: Ontogeny repeats phylogeny! The growth-history of an individual reflects the development and evolution of his/her KIND! When we were born, each one of us, we were born without a lot of vocabulary, a lot of words, a lot of strategies to win and show our individual cleverness! WE all learned all that later on as we grew up and demonstrate today and hopefully shall in the years to come. Through all this cleverness, do we take the time to thank the parents who made sure that we were cared for, even when we did not have WORDS, let alone THOUGHTS and were a helpless bunch? Think about that and be Thankful! And you will know what MA and BABA mean to a child!! YOU!!! Rohiniranjan , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > Whose shelter Buddha had taken, Who provided shelter to Buddha ? > > Why one needs to goto Buddha ....., Understand what was buddha, Follow > the way Buddha discovered he is a Buddha. > > > Be a Buddha and take shelter provided by yourself, You as a soul is > shelter for yourself.Accept your karmas .... and purge them. > > Instead of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Upnisad's have better proposition > - > > " So-Aham " = Me, Myself is God. > > " Tat Tvam Asi " = You Yourself is God. > > " Ayam Aatma Brham " = Me is the soul that is God. > > How to do that ? > > You need to have courage to fight and tear of your's weakness and > mistrust that you can loose any thing in this world, no, you dont loose > any thing. > > " Na - Ayam Atma Bal Hinen Labhayah .. " > > Me soul is no accessible to powerless, power is within you, have > confidence and that's end of the doubts. > > Utkal. > > > , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Members, > > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam > Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the truth > behind it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Rakesh > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 1. I pray, in your life time it's discoverd that darwin's theory is wrong, it's no ultimate reality, no monkey is transforming to humen beings even in african or south american forests. 2. Navaratri's are beginning from tomorrow, i wd pray that ma to show you the reality containd in these soothing words, stop group activities, sat and chant any mantra, do any prayer, spend your time for yourself, at least once in life. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Before all these soothing sounds arrived, Vedic and thereafter, in the last several thousands of years from now behind us, I feel that there existed humans, although modern folks may not consider them so -- their very own ancestors -- tragically if one were to pay attention! > > Before all these soothing ancient and vedic sounds arrived -- what existed? When human had not learned to speak and express and through words insult and assault, what existed? > > Before cognition arrived and we became individuals, and learned to read, speak, argue, WHO was looking after us individually and before we became so wise and perhaps TOO WISE? > > An adage in biology states: Ontogeny repeats phylogeny! The growth-history of an individual reflects the development and evolution of his/her KIND! > > When we were born, each one of us, we were born without a lot of vocabulary, a lot of words, a lot of strategies to win and show our individual cleverness! WE all learned all that later on as we grew up and demonstrate today and hopefully shall in the years to come. > > Through all this cleverness, do we take the time to thank the parents who made sure that we were cared for, even when we did not have WORDS, let alone THOUGHTS and were a helpless bunch? > > Think about that and be Thankful! And you will know what MA and BABA mean to a child!! YOU!!! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi@> wrote: > > > > > > Whose shelter Buddha had taken, Who provided shelter to Buddha ? > > > > Why one needs to goto Buddha ....., Understand what was buddha, Follow > > the way Buddha discovered he is a Buddha. > > > > > > Be a Buddha and take shelter provided by yourself, You as a soul is > > shelter for yourself.Accept your karmas .... and purge them. > > > > Instead of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Upnisad's have better proposition > > - > > > > " So-Aham " = Me, Myself is God. > > > > " Tat Tvam Asi " = You Yourself is God. > > > > " Ayam Aatma Brham " = Me is the soul that is God. > > > > How to do that ? > > > > You need to have courage to fight and tear of your's weakness and > > mistrust that you can loose any thing in this world, no, you dont loose > > any thing. > > > > " Na - Ayam Atma Bal Hinen Labhayah .. " > > > > Me soul is no accessible to powerless, power is within you, have > > confidence and that's end of the doubts. > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam > > Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the truth > > behind it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rakesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 !! Jal Me Kumbha, Kumbh Me Jal Hai, Bahar Bhitar Pani, Phuta Kumbha Jal Jal Hi Samana, Ihi Tath Kahyo Gyani !! Cleverness in Disconnects ....... or By Disconnects ?? Even Before you know something, knowledge exists .... Even Pralaya doesn't end the vedic knowledge .... Where is Haeckel or Von Adage by Haeckel had a different meaning and context, for long time you have not gone to introspection, use this navaratri's occasion spend some time for yourself. A child takes after Baba or Maa, Itself becomes either Baba or Maa ... Baba - > Child ... Child - > Baba ... likewise Soul - > God God - > Soul So-Aham ..... Tat Tvam Asi.. Ayam Atma Brahm !! Where is cleverness .... why it seems so ... admiration of Rahu does mean something, Rahu is created by motion, then How'z Sun ? Utkal. , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Before all these soothing sounds arrived, Vedic and thereafter, in the last several thousands of years from now behind us, I feel that there existed humans, although modern folks may not consider them so -- their very own ancestors -- tragically if one were to pay attention! > > Before all these soothing ancient and vedic sounds arrived -- what existed? When human had not learned to speak and express and through words insult and assault, what existed? > > Before cognition arrived and we became individuals, and learned to read, speak, argue, WHO was looking after us individually and before we became so wise and perhaps TOO WISE? > > An adage in biology states: Ontogeny repeats phylogeny! The growth-history of an individual reflects the development and evolution of his/her KIND! > > When we were born, each one of us, we were born without a lot of vocabulary, a lot of words, a lot of strategies to win and show our individual cleverness! WE all learned all that later on as we grew up and demonstrate today and hopefully shall in the years to come. > > Through all this cleverness, do we take the time to thank the parents who made sure that we were cared for, even when we did not have WORDS, let alone THOUGHTS and were a helpless bunch? > > Think about that and be Thankful! And you will know what MA and BABA mean to a child!! YOU!!! > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > Whose shelter Buddha had taken, Who provided shelter to Buddha ? > > > > Why one needs to goto Buddha ....., Understand what was buddha, Follow > > the way Buddha discovered he is a Buddha. > > > > > > Be a Buddha and take shelter provided by yourself, You as a soul is > > shelter for yourself.Accept your karmas .... and purge them. > > > > Instead of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Upnisad's have better proposition > > - > > > > " So-Aham " = Me, Myself is God. > > > > " Tat Tvam Asi " = You Yourself is God. > > > > " Ayam Aatma Brham " = Me is the soul that is God. > > > > How to do that ? > > > > You need to have courage to fight and tear of your's weakness and > > mistrust that you can loose any thing in this world, no, you dont loose > > any thing. > > > > " Na - Ayam Atma Bal Hinen Labhayah .. " > > > > Me soul is no accessible to powerless, power is within you, have > > confidence and that's end of the doubts. > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam > > Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the truth > > behind it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rakesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Haha! Looks like the magic wheel stopped at my name this time! Or perhaps my name got pulled out of the " hat " ! What fun!! ;-) Where is Charles Lutwidge Dodgson who wrote that wonderful story/novel that perhaps we all read and enjoyed the characters around the table which described that interesting (and DROLL) Tea Party? RR , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > !! Jal Me Kumbha, Kumbh Me Jal Hai, Bahar Bhitar Pani, > Phuta Kumbha Jal Jal Hi Samana, Ihi Tath Kahyo Gyani !! > > Cleverness in Disconnects ....... or By Disconnects ?? > > Even Before you know something, knowledge exists .... Even Pralaya > doesn't end the vedic knowledge .... Where is Haeckel or Von > > Adage by Haeckel had a different meaning and context, for long time you > have not gone to introspection, use this navaratri's occasion spend some > time for yourself. > > A child takes after Baba or Maa, Itself becomes either Baba or Maa ... > > Baba - > Child ... > > Child - > Baba ... > > likewise > > Soul - > God > > God - > Soul > > So-Aham ..... Tat Tvam Asi.. Ayam Atma Brahm !! > > Where is cleverness .... why it seems so ... admiration of Rahu does > mean something, Rahu is created by motion, then How'z Sun ? > > Utkal. > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Before all these soothing sounds arrived, Vedic and thereafter, in the > last several thousands of years from now behind us, I feel that there > existed humans, although modern folks may not consider them so -- their > very own ancestors -- tragically if one were to pay attention! > > > > Before all these soothing ancient and vedic sounds arrived -- what > existed? When human had not learned to speak and express and through > words insult and assault, what existed? > > > > Before cognition arrived and we became individuals, and learned to > read, speak, argue, WHO was looking after us individually and before we > became so wise and perhaps TOO WISE? > > > > An adage in biology states: Ontogeny repeats phylogeny! The > growth-history of an individual reflects the development and evolution > of his/her KIND! > > > > When we were born, each one of us, we were born without a lot of > vocabulary, a lot of words, a lot of strategies to win and show our > individual cleverness! WE all learned all that later on as we grew up > and demonstrate today and hopefully shall in the years to come. > > > > Through all this cleverness, do we take the time to thank the parents > who made sure that we were cared for, even when we did not have WORDS, > let alone THOUGHTS and were a helpless bunch? > > > > Think about that and be Thankful! And you will know what MA and BABA > mean to a child!! YOU!!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Whose shelter Buddha had taken, Who provided shelter to Buddha ? > > > > > > Why one needs to goto Buddha ....., Understand what was buddha, > Follow > > > the way Buddha discovered he is a Buddha. > > > > > > > > > Be a Buddha and take shelter provided by yourself, You as a soul is > > > shelter for yourself.Accept your karmas .... and purge them. > > > > > > Instead of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Upnisad's have better > proposition > > > - > > > > > > " So-Aham " = Me, Myself is God. > > > > > > " Tat Tvam Asi " = You Yourself is God. > > > > > > " Ayam Aatma Brham " = Me is the soul that is God. > > > > > > How to do that ? > > > > > > You need to have courage to fight and tear of your's weakness and > > > mistrust that you can loose any thing in this world, no, you dont > loose > > > any thing. > > > > > > " Na - Ayam Atma Bal Hinen Labhayah .. " > > > > > > Me soul is no accessible to powerless, power is within you, have > > > confidence and that's end of the doubts. > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam > > > Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the > truth > > > behind it. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rakesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 I wish my earlier posted response (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson) were approved. But now that a message posted much later has shown up, the mystery of " mercury-poisoning " remains a reference ill-understood!! Rohiniranjan , " utkal.panigrahi " <utkal.panigrahi wrote: > > > !! Jal Me Kumbha, Kumbh Me Jal Hai, Bahar Bhitar Pani, > Phuta Kumbha Jal Jal Hi Samana, Ihi Tath Kahyo Gyani !! > > Cleverness in Disconnects ....... or By Disconnects ?? > > Even Before you know something, knowledge exists .... Even Pralaya > doesn't end the vedic knowledge .... Where is Haeckel or Von > > Adage by Haeckel had a different meaning and context, for long time you > have not gone to introspection, use this navaratri's occasion spend some > time for yourself. > > A child takes after Baba or Maa, Itself becomes either Baba or Maa ... > > Baba - > Child ... > > Child - > Baba ... > > likewise > > Soul - > God > > God - > Soul > > So-Aham ..... Tat Tvam Asi.. Ayam Atma Brahm !! > > Where is cleverness .... why it seems so ... admiration of Rahu does > mean something, Rahu is created by motion, then How'z Sun ? > > Utkal. > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Before all these soothing sounds arrived, Vedic and thereafter, in the > last several thousands of years from now behind us, I feel that there > existed humans, although modern folks may not consider them so -- their > very own ancestors -- tragically if one were to pay attention! > > > > Before all these soothing ancient and vedic sounds arrived -- what > existed? When human had not learned to speak and express and through > words insult and assault, what existed? > > > > Before cognition arrived and we became individuals, and learned to > read, speak, argue, WHO was looking after us individually and before we > became so wise and perhaps TOO WISE? > > > > An adage in biology states: Ontogeny repeats phylogeny! The > growth-history of an individual reflects the development and evolution > of his/her KIND! > > > > When we were born, each one of us, we were born without a lot of > vocabulary, a lot of words, a lot of strategies to win and show our > individual cleverness! WE all learned all that later on as we grew up > and demonstrate today and hopefully shall in the years to come. > > > > Through all this cleverness, do we take the time to thank the parents > who made sure that we were cared for, even when we did not have WORDS, > let alone THOUGHTS and were a helpless bunch? > > > > Think about that and be Thankful! And you will know what MA and BABA > mean to a child!! YOU!!! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " utkal.panigrahi " > utkal.panigrahi@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Whose shelter Buddha had taken, Who provided shelter to Buddha ? > > > > > > Why one needs to goto Buddha ....., Understand what was buddha, > Follow > > > the way Buddha discovered he is a Buddha. > > > > > > > > > Be a Buddha and take shelter provided by yourself, You as a soul is > > > shelter for yourself.Accept your karmas .... and purge them. > > > > > > Instead of Buddham Sharanam Gachhami, Upnisad's have better > proposition > > > - > > > > > > " So-Aham " = Me, Myself is God. > > > > > > " Tat Tvam Asi " = You Yourself is God. > > > > > > " Ayam Aatma Brham " = Me is the soul that is God. > > > > > > How to do that ? > > > > > > You need to have courage to fight and tear of your's weakness and > > > mistrust that you can loose any thing in this world, no, you dont > loose > > > any thing. > > > > > > " Na - Ayam Atma Bal Hinen Labhayah .. " > > > > > > Me soul is no accessible to powerless, power is within you, have > > > confidence and that's end of the doubts. > > > > > > Utkal. > > > > > > > > > , " Rakesh " <rakesh_771119@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > Plz try to eleborate as per your experience " Budham Sharnam > > > Gachhami " ,so that we may be able to under stand thet what is the > truth > > > behind it. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rakesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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