Guest guest Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Sir I found this quote from MAHAPURAN: BAHUBALI KI UKKATI " jo balwantu choroo so rannau; nnibbalu punnu kijee nniprannaoo; hippaee miraghu mrigyan ji aamisu, hippaee mannuyahhu mannuaain ji vasy; rakkhaakakhaee juhu rayippiinnu, ikkhu keri aann laippinnoo; te nnivasanti tiloigvitthoo,Sinhhi keruu vandoo nna ditthoo; maannbhangi var arnnu nn jeevaoo!” Whoever is powerful Rogue; he only is the king, the weak is always exploited, Just as carnivorous animals nourishes on flesh of another animal, Humans loot the wealth of the weak of their creed. Organizations are created/established in the name of security and headed by some rogue, whose orders they obey for vested interests. It is well known that people who have qualities of lion does not live in groups/organisations. Regards Kulbir Bains. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote: > SiRR ji, > Very true, > Corruption creeps in anything organised be it politics or religion. > Only underworld and crime run smoothly and develop with organisation. > Other part of society deteriorate. > regards > Kulbir Bains. > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vaniwrote: > >> >> >> Kulbir, >> >> I would hold them suspect (not practicing what they preached), if the >> idols were built by them or at their behest. I think it is safe to assume >> that all the idols were created by their disciples or other fans (Kings etc >> who wished to worship the two great human beings. >> >> Won't you agree? >> >> Regards, >> >> Rohiniranjan >> >> <%40>, >> Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote: >> > >> > Sir Raj Bhargwaj ji, >> > I haven't understood one thing; >> > they say that both Lord Buddha and Lord Mahavir were against idol >> worship. >> > But the most splended nad greatest idols are of these two only. Why so? >> > Regards >> > Kulbir Bains. >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Raj <rajbhardwaj1949 wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Nihal Rathnayake, >> > > A very informative msg indeed. I have understood quite a lot from the >> given >> > > analysis of Lord Budha's teachings in nutshell, by you. With my best >> > > regards. >> > > >> > > Raj Bhardwaj >> > > >> > > --- In <%40> >> <%40>, >> > > Nihal Rathnayake <rrpnrathnayake@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Dear friends >> > > > I am not that clever in the subject.But I like to let you know some >> thing >> > > about subject >> > > >  >> > > > Lord Buddha is a great indian with following noble qualities >> > > >  >> > > > " Arahang " -not invole in any sinfull act not even in secret >> > > >  >> > > > Sama sambuddho - Understood the four noble truths (dukka stthyaya, >> > > samudhaya satthyaya, Nirodha satthayaya and Marga satthaya) by >> himself >> > > without a teacher >> > > >  >> > > > vijjacharana sampanno -knew " Ashta vidya " and followed 15 " charana >> > > dharma " >> > > >  >> > > > sugatho -came to the good status (Nibbana) forever >> > > >  >> > > > lokavidu - knew abut earth(manussa lokaya), heaven including Brahmas >> > > place and hell including animal world >> > > >  >> > > > Purisadamma sarathi- sccesfull in tking any power full one in the >> > > world to the correct path(conquer any body) >> > > >  >> > > > satta devamanussanam -teacher to men and gods >> > > >  >> > > > buddho-could make others understand dhamma so that they also can >> attain >> > > Nibbana >> > > >  >> > > > " Buddham saranam gachchanmi " means that I am following the teaching >> of >> > > lord buddha. if some one follows his twachings he will never fall in >> trouble >> > > and attain Nibbana at the end. >> > > > Who follows the teaching of buddha will automatically be protected >> from >> > > any evil. >> > > > All the shastras like jyotishya are for people who do not know the >> > > teachings of buddha or do not follow the teachings of budhdha. >> > > >  >> > > >  >> > > > Unfotunately lot of indians have forgotten lord buddha and buddha,s >> > > teachings >> > > >  >> > > > Ratnayake. >> > > > >> > > > --- On Fri, 19/3/10, Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@> >> > > >> > > > Re: " Budham Sharnam Gachhami " >> > > > To: <%40> >> <%40> >> > > > Friday, 19 March, 2010, 10:44 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >  >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Dear All, >> > > > Budh + Dhee = Budhee. Pancham bhava in jyotish is also called 'Dhee >> > > > Bhava' ,'Santan Bhava " among quite a few other matters to be judged >> from >> > > > the Pancham bhava. In some parts of our country, Dhee simply denotes >> > > > daughter. When a jataka becomes father, he is normally appears to >> have >> > > > become ; and thus called a wise person or blessed one or a Budheeman >> and >> > > > a changed person. Let us have a look at the Dashavataras. As the >> Samay >> > > > deemed, Vishnu Avtaras appeared on our Dharti,for very short >> periods. In >> > > > the roopas of manav, the Avtaras came for longer duration to play >> their >> > > > Leela as Rama Parshu Ram, Krishna. They also had their respective >> Gurus. >> > > > Lord Budha did not come to this earth to play any leela. Lord Budha >> > > > followed the path, as was predicted by the Raaj -Jyotishis of the >> > > > palace. Inspite/despite all worldly efforts made by his father to >> change >> > > > the course of life of his beloved son, a sorrowful happening, >> triggered >> > > > his atma; and he left the worldly comforts. He attained >> Budhee,attained >> > > > under the Bodheestva Tree,after a long tapasya and inward >> looking.and >> > > > became a Budha. That is What was required in his times, and he >> displayed >> > > > to all world that Now onwards, it was time for Peace,Ahimsa and >> > > > attaining deeper knowledge. That was the last Avtaar, which is >> > > > represented by planet Budh. Those who understood him followed him, >> > > > including King Ashoka,after the Kalinga War, and a new Dharma The >> BAUDH >> > > > DHARMA, took it roots in our vast continent based on the teachings >> of >> > > > Budha. Lord Rama emphasised on the dharma ,the duties of the manav, >> as >> > > > despcribed in the Shastras. Lord Krishna had different Mayas right >> from >> > > > the time he took birth and played multifaceted roles. That was the >> need >> > > > of the time, and it is for nothing that Ramayana and Mahabharata and >> Sh >> > > > Bhagwad Gita are the epices. The leelas of Lord Rama and Krishna did >> not >> > > > result in birth of any new Dharma. But the followers chant Hare Rama >> > > > Hare Krishna. Ramayan and Geeta is mostly kept in homes and temples >> , >> > > > but Mahabharat is avoided. Budha guided us to take shelter under our >> > > > Dhee or Budhee for all times to come. It is for all those who can >> follow >> > > > his path of simple teachings of Satya , Ahimnsa and the Dharma. The >> > > > teachings are simple, but really not the easiest to follow in the >> > > > Kaliyuga by all. We generally do not hear Hare Budha or Jai >> > > > Budha......but is it not amazing for the mankind that after World >> War-I >> > > > and World War-II, the real progress in all fields of Science and >> > > > Technology have made so much rapid progress which makes us spell >> bound. >> > > > Remember, at the time of independence of India in 1947, only few >> cities >> > > > in the country had electricity. Very few bi-cycles,Scooters, >> Mobikes, >> > > > Cars. No education or medical or communication ,trnsportation >> systems >> > > > (except the Railways the gift of British to India) worth the name , >> to >> > > > name a few, was in place for such a vast country What has happened >> in >> > > > the life time of people born in 1947. How much miracalous and aweful >> > > > inventions/objects the people born around 1920 -30 must be observing >> in >> > > > their life at this time. I happen to meet very old people also and >> see >> > > > them exclaming " Beta kya kya Maya ho rahi hai rojana. Can we call it >> > > > Budham Sharnam ? Living in the creative work of Budhi of the people >> , >> > > > after the Budha Avtara. Is it not helping mankind ? This is the real >> > > > teaching of Budha,which have universally inspired the mankind. We >> have >> > > > always been taught to do our Karmas, because our Avtaras, Rishis, >> > > > Munis, Thinkers knew that performing Karmas(following the right path >> or >> > > > dharma) is the best thing for the humanity and not the renunciation, >> > > > because this is the most difficult Karma....the renunciation. So >> this is >> > > > the miracle of Budha, our Pancham house, our Dhee, our Budh-dhee , >> our >> > > > Dhee Mahee. Therefore, I feel that best path obviously appears to be >> > > > the Budham Sharnam ,which the mankind is showing untiringly. May I >> say >> > > > that all planets have shown themselves in the roopas of >> Dashaavtaraas, >> > > > and we jyotishi are struck up in bad planets, good planets,neecha >> and >> > > > vakri planet, margi planet, the most fearsome,Rahu Dasha , Shani >> > > > Dasha,Sade-Sati and Dhaiyya of Saturn ! Let us learn and march >> little >> > > > ahead with the blessings of Budha. My best regards. >> > > > >> > > > Raj Bhardwaj >> > > > >> > > > , " rohinicrystal " >> > > > <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > I am sorry Rakesh_jee if I am sounding abrasive or uncaring, but >> > > > hopefully not impolite or insincere! >> > > > > >> > > > > The strongest indication of spiritual maturity and growth is that >> it >> > > > brings detachment! Detachment comes from the increasing CLARITY >> which >> > > > comes to the spiritually- advanced and spiritually- mature and >> becomes >> > > > evident very readily. Spiritual maturity removes the NEED and HUNGER >> for >> > > > appreciation by others or excessive SENSITIVITY (all upper case for >> > > > emphasis and not displaying frustration or anger :-)) >> > > > > >> > > > > The spiritually- mature person does not fall in love with the >> thoughts >> > > > or ideas or VISION and MISSION for Earth and Humanity! He or She >> shares >> > > > an idea, vision, comment and then walks away from it. Those who >> tune-in >> > > > tune-in, those who do not, they will when the time is right for >> them! >> > > > > >> > > > > Hope all readers will take it in the right spirit! >> > > > > >> > > > > May we all turn Spiritual! >> > > > > >> > > > > Rohiniranjan >> > > > > >> > > > > , Rakesh Kumar >> rakesh_771119@ >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Rohini Ji,Utkal Ji and others, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Please try to under stand the topic " Budham Sharnam Gachhami " . >> This >> > > > is not relate to a person but there is some thing very valuable >> hidden >> > > > in it which give us a great message. But if it will be out of our >> under >> > > > standing ,we can't search the truth.So I request all to work out >> > > > seriously on this topic and you will find a real way to go behind in >> > > > searching truth. >> > > > > > I am agreed with Utkal Ji about the message of our Upnishada.but >> > > > this is not the answer of this topic but simply a try to run away >> from >> > > > this topic. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I am very disappointed that I have presented a so brilliant >> topic >> > > > but no body has time to pay a single moment to think over it. I hope >> at >> > > > least from Sh.V.Jha who has practical experience in spiritual field >> that >> > > > he will spare some of his valuable time to elaborate the above topic >> in >> > > > detail so that all of us have a right under standing about the >> sayings >> > > > of a very experienced Master Bhagwan Budha. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Regards, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Rakesh Kumar >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it >> NOW! >> > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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