Information about beej mantra sadhana's ?

March 23, 2010

Don't feel sad, Inder_jee! :-)

I have personally experienced such losses, several times in my relatively short

lifetime so far. The first one was BRUTAL! My relatively large collection of

Jyotish and similar books, collected painstakingly - one by one, from the very

meagre amount of money that was available to me then during childhood -- had to

be given up, just like that, many of those literally given away! And then

similar 'lessons' were provided to me by the Kind Universe in terms of

collections of charts and what not. You have no idea, how much I agonized over

those -- I was a lot younger!

Then suddenly it dawned upon me, what Universe was trying to teach me or at the

very least to become aware of!

It was worth it, looking back! But back then it felt like the Universe was doing

major surgery on my heart without anesthesia!

I hope I have described the feeling of loss and being lost accurately!

Rohiniranjan

, " inder " <indervohra2001 wrote:

>

> Dear RR-ji,

>

> Unfortunatly I donot keep any soft copy of thosands of charts I was trying to

analyse.It is difficult to search in my old notebooks.

> Shankracharya discussion [most of it] was on jyotish_Remedies group site only

and should be available.

>

> I would try to be away from such discussions as it may unneccesary others

sentiments.

> Inder

>

> , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> >

> > Those like Dalai Lama and Vivekananda (we had some interesting encounters

and threads recently! :-)) are perhaps a bit over our head, Vohra ji, but maybe

this Shankracharya you mentioned, the one with a cloud over his head might be

interesting to members here who for the most part run into normal people and not

Religious, Political or Bollywood celebritities!

> >

> > Also, if I may suggest, please share the birth data of this person and post

a few astrological comments and observations and then other members will warm up

and share!

> >

> > It is so NICE to have you back again! :-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " inder " <indervohra2001@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Guru jees,

> > >

> > > I have been many times thinking about the horoscopes of Yogi,s, real

Mahatama who achieve Salvation or Nirvana but I could never get an accurate

chart.1st, 5th and 9th is spritual triangle, but many times 8th house although

house of suffering is considered to be spritual house. Lord Budhha had great

sufferings all his life, even he died of cholera/food poisoning, so can we say

that 8th house is Nirvana house. 4th, 8th and 12th trangle is Moksha triangle.

Is everybody passing all phases of life or direct fusion[KP linkages] of

spritual trangle with Moksha trangle is Salvation. But beeja Mantra[or so] come

out of mouth to ear so 2nd and 3rd house involved. Eating and sleeping are also

connected with everybody. So called bad planets- rahu,ketu, shani,mangal etc are

also there is each chart[or can we remove these from spritual charts].

> > >

> > > This issue has always confused me.Reading of Charts of Dalai Lama, and

Yogananad etc did not solve my probem.

> > >

> > > About 5 years ago in this forum itself we were trying to analyse chart of

Shankracharya who got invoved in some controversy and TamilNadu police captured

him. At that time that chart was looking so ordaniry although had very strong

relgiousity and fame.

> > >

> > > Please help

> > >

> > > Inder

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Just to elaborate a bit more, different experiences that I was made

privy to, which to me seem relevant to earlier posting.

> > > >

> > > > One person had this very strong connection to the scent that arises when

the first rain meets the parched earth after summer! I hope some of you have

smelt that?

> > > >

> > > > This person moved to a land thousands of miles away and was embraced by

some familiars but so many NEW things and choices and so on. After winter passed

and so did several months, one day when the ground -- very different from before

-- was spewing heat, the first rain arrived! It " smelt " the same when the first

rain hit the new earth! He realized that he never left HOME!

> > > >

> > > > I will stop there, though there were shared a few other memories too but

I do not wish to bore or distract you wonderful people.

> > > >

> > > > The best and most effective remedy to begin to address, thwart and

reverse KARMA is MEMORY! Dreams and Reflections additionally, help too! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > What one FORGETS is so easy to IGNORE! AND that then becomes the MONKey

that lands on our back, sometimes during this lifetime but certainly during the

NEXT or one in future!

> > > >

> > > > I think that is how the expression came to be passed down: " The monkey

on our back! "

> > > >

> > > > So is it mercury, astrologically-speaking that defines karma? Or is it

moon the icon of memory and chanchaltaa -- kind of like a monkey oh so playful!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Beautiful sharing, Dada!

> > > > >

> > > > > And similar stories and experiences have been reported by others from

all times, cultures, religions and other nuances of Human Experience!

> > > > >

> > > > > And that is where, in my puny experience, the seeds of reality exist!

> > > > >

> > > > > Unique and exclusive are the other names of COMMON! Like multiple

I.D.s on Internet ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > The question of responsibility for once growth and development by

the " Guru " how relevant and appropriate?

> > > > > > I was present with Shri Shri Sankaracharya of kamkotipeetham in

Delhi and was giving advice to ministers including Smt Susshma Swaraj,the then

Cabinet minister and several prominent people.

> > > > > > After Swamy Ji's darshan,people were given deeksha for thos who are

interested to follow the advice of Shri Shankaracharya Ji.

> > > > > > here Guru is Swamy ji himself and gives the importance of Deeksha

and how to conduct and what is to be done invariably as part of Dina Charya that

is daily activity.

> > > > > > he gives Updesa by confidentially reciting aamnatra in the ears of

the the person that volunteered and Swamy ji has agreed to administer deeksha to

him.

> > > > > > From that day on wards what eve rhe does has to be more meaningful

and responsible for his won action.

> > > > > > After following a specific regime the follower has to recite the

Mantra given by Guru.This may contain beeja akshra.

> > > > > > Till completion of his course life he has to follow ideals of the

Guru.and is not supposed to involve in extraneous matters.

> > > > > > The beeja mantra shall have impact progressively and helps the

person that follows the regime.

> > > > > > In the whole process the devotee of the Swamy ji has more

responsibility and accountability in his actions and words.

> > > > > > where as some Gurus like Mata Amritanand Mayee also gives

mantorddharana upadesa besides several other swamy ji like from Ahmedabad now

under media glare.These guru Jis with mass appeal hold bahjans ,upadesas but

Guru manthroddharana is made as one to one and slected few ones.

> > > > > > The faith that is involved in Guru-Mantra upadesa carries

significance for both of them.

> > > > > > It is advised that as and one he gets time he has to renew his

meetings with Guru Ji and follow his advices.

> > > > > > This is how Guru Mantra shakti gets fortified for the objectives

which a person has in mind in taking Deeksha and Mantropadesam.

> > > > > > The rest of the things that come through media and otherwise

publicity is only stuff that adds to gossip and curiosity.

> > > > > > Vattem Krishnan

> > > > > > Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)

> > > > > > Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them "

> > > > > > Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/20/10, Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@>

> > > > > > > Re: Information about beej mantra sadhana's ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Saturday, March 20, 2010, 12:23 PM

> > > > > > > Dear Mishra Ji, Texts say that if

> > > > > > > deeksha of beej mantra is given by a

> > > > > > > competent guru, then it becomes the responsibility of the

> > > > > > > guru to bring

> > > > > > > salvation to the disciple. I wonder what would happen of

> > > > > > > gurus who give such

> > > > > > > deeksha on mike to hundreds of people together in camps?

> > > > > > > --

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bians

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > > > <

> > > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Awies,You will certainly get required material

> > > > > > > from this forum.But it

> > > > > > > > would be better to get the required Mantra from the

> > > > > > > mouth of a

> > > > > > > > Tapasvee ,dead honest & competent Guru.For

> > > > > > > spiritual upliftment and to get a

> > > > > > > > Tapsvee ,dead honest & competent Guru firstly you

> > > > > > > should follow the path of

> > > > > > > > Tapsya wisely and then you may get a chance to see

> > > > > > > your Guru who will tell

> > > > > > > > you BEEZ Mantra which is required for you.

> > > > > > > > Now a days Beez Mantra is being sold for Rs.3100.00 by

> > > > > > > some one/by few so

> > > > > > > > called Gurujis in his / their private meetings,he

> > > > > > > changes/they change Beez

> > > > > > > > Mantra per month and again fee Rs.3100.00 is

> > > > > > > being charged from

> > > > > > > > followers.It is also very strange thing that these

> > > > > > > Beez Mantra

> > > > > > > > are being prepared by so called Gurujis.Instead of

> > > > > > > gathering astrological

> > > > > > > > knowledge,some have become face reader and he/they

> > > > > > > make true/falls

> > > > > > > > predictions and charging Rs.2500.00 for one question.I

> > > > > > > am not advertising

> > > > > > > > for any one.But people come to me after they have been

> > > > > > > cheated by so called

> > > > > > > > Gurujis and tell their story.

> > > > > > > > With good wishes,

> > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > > > > awies2004 <awies2001@

> > > > > > > <awies2001%40hotmail.com>>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > > > Fri, March 19, 2010 5:59:39 AM

> > > > > > > > Information about beej mantra sadhana's

> > > > > > > ?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > a year ago a email was send with an easy sadhana for a

> > > > > > > beej mantra. the

> > > > > > > > kleem beej mantra. I was wondering if anyone here

> > > > > > > could help me with a few

> > > > > > > > easy sadhana's for beej mantra of Laxmi mata,

> > > > > > > Saraswati mata and others.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Could i also get information as for what it can be

> > > > > > > used for. like to study

> > > > > > > > better, to be healthier, to have better concentration,

> > > > > > > to spiritualy grow,

> > > > > > > > to have peace within your mind etc etc.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I do have a lot of them from forums etc but i have not

> > > > > > > found any sadhana

> > > > > > > > for them. Just the mantra and thats all.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you very much for any and all the information

> > > > > > > you can give.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Awies

> > > > > > > >

March 23, 2010

Swami Kulbir Bainsji,I do not know much about this.But I can say that there is

no hard and fast rule regarding this.Gurunanak Deoji,Swami Ram Krishna Param

Hansji,Swami Daya Nandji,Swami Vivekanandji,Ved Murti Taponishtha Achary Sri Ram

Sharmaji,Guru Golwarkarji,Swami Akhanda Nandji and somany others were not

advised for exile nor did they kill their 12 years valuable time firstly and

became really Spiritual man.But by the grace of God these saints were guided by

perfect masters of Yoga.

With thanks & regards,Â

Dhirendra Nath Misra