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Thanks for your write-up, Vinay-ji.

 

The older edition Venkateshwar Press (Shastri) BPHS is available for online

reading at the Digital Library of India (DLI).

 

Link:

http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data1/upload/00\

10/147 & first=1 & last=357 & barcode=1990030155390

 

Note: this requires a TIF/TIFF reader. Alternatiff works.

 

Justin

 

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

> Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

> know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

> spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

> Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

> Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

> Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

> the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

> chapters.

>

> The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

> AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

> Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

> ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

> convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

> editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

> published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

> more chapters !!

>

> Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

> chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

> chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

> Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

> chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

> inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

>

> I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

> editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

> verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

> latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

> are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

>

> Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

> University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

> do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

> this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

> manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

> before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

>

> BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

> of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

>

> Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

> Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

> Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

> Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

> Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

>

> I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

> in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ==================== ===

>

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Members,

 

BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita Jyotisha

(only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users know that almost

all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some spurious version published by

Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University (then a college).

He procured a manuscript from Pt Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added

some portions related to Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra,

thus inflating the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more

kmaginary chapters.

 

The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946 AD)

includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar Press of

Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of ancient books. Later,

Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with convincing proofs, which

Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later editions of BPHS continued the

tradition started by Sitaram Jha and published spurious chapters, just to show

that their edition includes more chapters !!

 

Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97 chapters, while

Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71 chapters. The latter lacks many

chapters which are not part of Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he

added these non-Hora chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat

race of inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

 

I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other editions

before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781 verses of

Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the latter introduced a

large number of verses from unnamed sources which are part of Samhitaa and not

of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

 

Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit University

and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I do not take any

salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing this issue with all

notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting manuscript collections in

variopus universities. It will take some time before we arrive at any firm

conclusion.

 

BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few of them,

just because of lack of printing press & c.

 

Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi Mahesh Yogi

university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition. Hindi commentaries from

Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha and another by padmanabha Sharma) and Thakur

Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar Edition

contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

 

I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts in the

project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

 

-Vinay Jha

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This older Venkateshwar edition of BPHS can be procured from any retailer of

Khemraj Shrikrishnadas, or from following email ID:

 

khemraj

 

-VJ

============= ==

vedic astrology , " badc00kie " <badc00kie wrote:

>

>

> Thanks for your write-up, Vinay-ji.

>

> The older edition Venkateshwar Press (Shastri) BPHS is available for online

reading at the Digital Library of India (DLI).

>

> Link:

>

http://www.new1.dli.ernet.in/scripts/FullindexDefault.htm?path1=/data1/upload/00\

10/147 & first=1 & last=357 & barcode=1990030155390

>

> Note: this requires a TIF/TIFF reader. Alternatiff works.

>

> Justin

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Members,

> >

> > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

> > Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

> > know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

> > spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

> > Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

> > Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

> > Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

> > the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

> > chapters.

> >

> > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

> > AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

> > Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

> > ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

> > convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

> > editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

> > published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

> > more chapters !!

> >

> > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

> > chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

> > chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

> > Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

> > chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

> > inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

> >

> > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

> > editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

> > verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

> > latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

> > are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

> >

> > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

> > University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

> > do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

> > this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

> > manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

> > before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

> >

> > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

> > of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

> >

> > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

> > Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

> > Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

> > Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

> > Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

> >

> > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

> > in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ==================== ===

> >

>

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Dear Jha Saheb,

 

It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that these

various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by professional

jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious differences have not been

identified and commented upon until very recently! Mind boggling!!

 

One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ness' plagues the other so

called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less 'exposed'

literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too openly may end up

being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of scriptural texts, in the

final analysis!

 

Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such intense

nostalgia...

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

vedic astrology , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

> Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

> know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

> spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

> Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

> Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

> Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

> the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

> chapters.

>

> The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

> AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

> Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

> ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

> convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

> editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

> published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

> more chapters !!

>

> Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

> chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

> chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

> Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

> chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

> inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

>

> I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

> editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

> verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

> latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

> are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

>

> Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

> University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

> do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

> this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

> manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

> before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

>

> BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

> of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

>

> Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

> Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

> Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

> Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

> Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

>

> I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

> in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ==================== ===

>

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Dear Rohini:

 

In the field of Chinese metaphysics, there is a spurious " classic " full of

errors, about the method known as Zi Wei, which has been around for a thousand

years or more. Yet to this day the book is sold and relied upon as the

foundation for that method.

 

Once these flawed works enter the mainstream, they are difficult to get rid of,

since they gain their adherents.

 

Jacques

 

--- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

[vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

vedic astrology

Received: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 2:59 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jha Saheb,

 

 

 

It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that these

various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by professional

jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious differences have not been

identified and commented upon until very recently! Mind boggling!!

 

 

 

One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ ness' plagues the other so

called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less 'exposed'

literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too openly may end up

being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of scriptural texts, in the

final analysis!

 

 

 

Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such intense

nostalgia...

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

vedic astrology, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Members,

 

>

 

> BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

 

> Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

 

> know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

 

> spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

 

> Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

 

> Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

 

> Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

 

> the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

 

> chapters.

 

>

 

> The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

 

> AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

 

> Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

 

> ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

 

> convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

 

> editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

 

> published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

 

> more chapters !!

 

>

 

> Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

 

> chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

 

> chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

 

> Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

 

> chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

 

> inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

 

>

 

> I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

 

> editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

 

> verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

 

> latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

 

> are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

 

>

 

> Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

 

> University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

 

> do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

 

> this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

 

> manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

 

> before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

 

>

 

> BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

 

> of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

 

>

 

> Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

 

> Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

 

> Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

 

> Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

 

> Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

 

>

 

> I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

 

> in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

 

>

 

> -Vinay Jha

 

> ============ ======== ===

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Jacques,

 

Are you implying that the adherents are flawed and not " sticking " to or

'searching for' the verity (as opposed to VARIETY)? ;-)

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

vedic astrology , Jacques Le Vangie <mojavecowboy

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini:

>

> In the field of Chinese metaphysics, there is a spurious " classic " full of

errors, about the method known as Zi Wei, which has been around for a thousand

years or more. Yet to this day the book is sold and relied upon as the

foundation for that method.

>

> Once these flawed works enter the mainstream, they are difficult to get rid

of, since they gain their adherents.

>

> Jacques

>

> --- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> [vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

> vedic astrology

> Received: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 2:59 PM

>

 

>

>

>

Dear Jha Saheb,

>

>

>

> It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that these

various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by professional

jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious differences have not been

identified and commented upon until very recently! Mind boggling!!

>

>

>

> One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ ness' plagues the other so

called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less 'exposed'

literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too openly may end up

being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of scriptural texts, in the

final analysis!

>

>

>

> Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such intense

nostalgia...

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Members,

>

> >

>

> > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

>

> > Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

>

> > know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

>

> > spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

>

> > Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

>

> > Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

>

> > Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

>

> > the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

>

> > chapters.

>

> >

>

> > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

>

> > AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

>

> > Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

>

> > ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

>

> > convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

>

> > editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

>

> > published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

>

> > more chapters !!

>

> >

>

> > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

>

> > chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

>

> > chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

>

> > Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

>

> > chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

>

> > inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

>

> >

>

> > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

>

> > editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

>

> > verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

>

> > latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

>

> > are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

>

> >

>

> > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

>

> > University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

>

> > do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

>

> > this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

>

> > manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

>

> > before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

>

> >

>

> > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

>

> > of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

>

> >

>

> > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

>

> > Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

>

> > Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

>

> > Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

>

> > Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

>

> >

>

> > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

>

> > in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

>

> >

>

> > -Vinay Jha

>

> > ============ ======== ===

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

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The seriousness of these editors can be guessed from following instances

:

 

Mr R. Santhanam mentioned following editions known to him in 1984 (I am

quoting him):

 

<<<<<

(1)Sri Venkatateswara Press, Bombay, partly rendered in Hindi.For a

majority of slokas, one can find Sanskrit commentary only.

(2) Hindi translation by Sitaram Jha. (Master Khelari Lal, Varanasi

edition).

(3)Hindi translation by Devachandra Jha. (Chowkambha edition).

(4)Hindi translation by Ganesha Datta Pathak. (Thakur Prasad edition).

 

After scrutinizing critically the four manuscripts, I have for reasons

of more credibility chosen the Sanskrit version rendered by Sitaram Jha.

The Chowkambha version is almost the same as that of Khelari Lal's.

 

Other versions that I have come across are :

 

(1) Tamil translation by C. G. Rajan -- for only 36 chapters, without

Sanskrit verses.

(2) English translation by N. N. Rao for only 25 chapters without

Sanskrit slokas.

>>>>>

 

Mr R. Santhanam did not consult the most detailed Tamil version titled

Poorva-paaraasharee and Uttara-paaraasharee which contain Sanskrit

verses too, just because the title was not " BPHS " . I have not been able

to procure Uttara-paaraasharee so far, but Poorva-paaraasharee seems to

be the Tamil version of BPHS. The adjective " Brihat " was added to BPHS

after Madhya and Laghu Paaraashari texts were broken away from BPHS.

There are slokas in Laghu Paaraashari which are absent in BPHS but are

very important. Does it mean Sage Parashara wrote more than one Hora

texts ?? No, his Hora text was divided later. Shri Venkateshwara Press

edition contains Sanskrit slokas which say there were 100 chapters in

the original version, 80 in first part and 20 in second, with 11000

verses in first part only. Nearly half of these verses have been lost,

perhaps permanently. But some of them are found in abridged versions

like Laghu Paaraashari. Shri Venkateshwara Press edition contains 5781

verses, while entire BPHS should contain perhaps 13-14 thousand verses

(number of verses in original second part is unknown).

 

Mr R. Santhanam wrongly asserts " The Chowkambha version is almost the

same as that of Khelari Lal's " . There are serious differences in a large

number of verses, right from the initial chapters. Moreover, the

Chowkambha version contains one extra chapter which Mr Santhanam failed

to see and could not include in his own version. Why ? The Tahkur Prasad

version also contains many unique verses which Mr Santhanam knowingly

or unknowingly ignored.

 

Scrutinizing Mr Santhanam's version and comparing it with other versions

available to him has led me to conclude that he did not even read other

versions. It was perhaps because he thought Pt Sitaram Jha was a

professor at a Sanskrit university of Varanasi and was therefore more

reliable. Mr Santhanam says " Sri Venkatateswara Press, Bombay, partly

rendered in Hindi.For a majority of slokas, one can find Sanskrit

commentary only. " But Sri Venkatateswara Press edition with me is

completely rendered in Hindi and contains 1780 more verses than in

Sitaram Jha's version. The latter includes many spurious chapters not

fit for inclusion in a Hora text. Hence, the actual number of Hora

verses in Sri Venkatateswara Press edition which are absent in Sitaram

Jha's edition are about three thousand, ie nearly 50% !!

 

Here is another example of seriousness of Mr Santhanam :

 

The verse about Mercury's AD during Sun's MD says :

 

<<<<<

52-53 ½ Marriage, offering of oblations, charity, performance of

religious rites, name and fame, becoming famous by assuming another

name, good food, becoming happy, like Indra, by acquiring wealth, robes

and ornaments will be the effects, if Budh is in an auspicious Bhava,

like a Trikon etc. from the Lord of the Dasha.

54-57. Body distress, disturbance of peace of mind, distress to wife and

children, will be the evil effects in the Antar Dasha of Budh, if he is

in the 6th, the 8th, or the 12th from the Lord of the Dasha (Budh

cannot be in the 6th, or the 8th from Sürya).

>>>>>

 

Shri Venkatashwara Press edition says in its editorial that these verses

are spurious because Mercury can never be in Trikona or in 6th or 8th

from Surya. Mr Santhanam noticed this anomaly in the second verse and

added " Budh cannot be in the 6th, or the 8th from Sürya " , but failed

to see similar anomaly in first verse and could not add 'Budh cannot

be in Trikona from Sürya'.

 

Shri Venkatashwara Press edition has cited many examples from Sitaram

Jha's edition which prove the errors of Pt Sitaram Jha. Pt Sitaram Jha

used to abuse dead scholars like Pt Sudhakar Dwivedi on flimsy grounds,

but did not know that his own crimes will be unearthed by coming

generations. The editorial b y Pt Sitaram Jha says that he " corrected "

a large number of verses in the manuscript and added many " parts " from

unnamed sources, including " topics related to Samhitaa (and not

Jaataka) " .

 

In spite of such a candid acknowledgement by Pt Sitaram Jha, why editors

like Mr Santhanam, Mr Girish Chand Sharma and Mr Padmanaabha Sharma

assume that the additions made by Pt Sitaram Jha are genuine ??? Pt

Sitaram Jha never claimed that the additions made by him were part of

BPHS, he accepted that these chapters were " added " by him and also

accepted that many chapters added by him were not even part of Jaataka

and were related to Samhitaa.

 

Then, why Pt Sitaram Jha added these chapters ?? Because his publisher

wanted to sell this edition at any cost. Shri Venkatashwara Press

edition had only 71 chapters, although the original verses said there

were 100 chapters originally " Horaa-shataadhyaayee

sarva-paapa-pranaashinee " . Adding more chapters would have inflated the

book from 5781 verses in Shri Venkatashwara Press edition to about 7000

verses, which the publishers were unwilling to publish (Pt Sitaram Jha

accepts the difficulties in publishing due to " paucity of paper " ).

 

Therefore, he deleted nearly half of verses from Shri Venkatashwara

Press edition , changed the language (but not the content) of a large

number of remaining verses, added 28 new chapters with subjects mostly

related to Samhitaa and not Horaa, and introduced many verses to

substantiate his personal views about Jyotisha which were neither parts

of Hora nor present in any edition of BPHS.

 

Such editorship is crime and must be exposed. The spurious verses cited

above about Budh's AD in Surya's MD (similar errors in Shukra's AD in

Surya's MD) show that the composer of these verses was either a fool or

in a hurry to compose new verses. These foolish verses were absent in

any published or unpublished version and are simply inventions of Pt

Sitaram Jha. Unfortunatley, editions by Mr Santhanam, Mr Girish Chand

Sharma and Mr Padmanaabha Sharma are reproducing these spurious verses

in the name of Sage Parashara. Mr Santhanam wrongly said that he

scrutinized all texts available to him : he did not even read the

editorials of Pt Sitaram Jha or of Shri Venkatashwara Press edition

which discussed these aspurious verses in detail. Mr Girish Chand Sharma

boasted in his editorial that he read " all the published material on

the subject (including " various mythological and allied scriptures

includinh yoga tantra etc " ) " . Thus, this omniscient editor recreated 100

chapters known to Sage Parashara !!!

 

The fact is we cannot reproduce even half of original BPHS, unless and

until some hidden genuine manuscripts are unearthed. The adjective

" Brihat " is itself spurious. Sage Parashara did not write three

treatises on Hora titled Brihat, Madhya and Laghu. Such divisions are

later inventions by us. We, therefore must recombine them to form the

original Paraashara-Horaa-shaastra (PHS instead of BPHS), or

" Paaraasharee Horaa " if we use the traditional term for this book.

Then, Horaa portions from various existing editions should be used to

complete the available chapters, and leave the remaining lost chapters

to the posterity for further research. Inventing lost portions is a

crime.

 

I want to bring out a critical edition of PHS in three parts :

 

(1) Sanskrit text, including all variants in footnotes, and also

including verses from Madhya and Laghu Parashari where they should

appear,

(2) Hindi ttranslation, and

(3) English translation.

 

Vested interests in publishing business as well as in astrological

" business " have already targeted me for mindless attacks.

 

All available verses of Parashara's Hora can be classed into five

categories :

(1) verses with no controversy,

(2) verses differing in language in various editions but having same

meaning,

(3) unique verses found in one edition only but appearing to be genuine,

(4) spurious verses

(5) verses not related to Horaa (ie, added by enthusiasts).

 

I do not know whether I will be able to accomplish this task because of

my other preoccupations.

 

-Vinay Jha

====================== ======

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal "

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Jha Saheb,

>

> It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that

these various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by

professional jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious

differences have not been identified and commented upon until very

recently! Mind boggling!!

>

> One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ness' plagues the

other so called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less

'exposed' literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too

openly may end up being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of

scriptural texts, in the final analysis!

>

> Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such

intense nostalgia...

>

> Regards,

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> vedic astrology , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote:

> >

> > Members,

> >

> > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic

Phalita

> > Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few

users

> > know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

> > spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at

Sampoornanand

> > Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from

Pt

> > Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related

to

> > Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus

inflating

> > the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more

kmaginary

> > chapters.

> >

> > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha,

1946

> > AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri

Venkateshwar

> > Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

> > ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges

with

> > convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

> > editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

> > published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition

includes

> > more chapters !!

> >

> > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

> > chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

> > chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

> > Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

> > chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

> > inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

> >

> > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with

other

> > editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

> > verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

> > latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources

which

> > are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

> >

> > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand

Sanskrit

> > University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha

classes (I

> > do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am

discussing

> > this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also

consulting

> > manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some

time

> > before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

> >

> > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a

few

> > of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

> >

> > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

> > Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

> > Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

> > Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases.

Venkateshwar

> > Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

> >

> > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and

manuscripts

> > in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ==================== ===

> >

>

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Yes Da, most of the adherents are ruled by habits of mind which cannot be

changed without tapasyaa.

 

The situation is not hopeless in the case of BPHS because as far as fundamentals

of Horaa are concerned there are few differences among various editions. The

controversy is limited mostly to details and not to fundamentals.

 

-VJ

============================== ===

vedic astrology , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Dear Jacques,

>

> Are you implying that the adherents are flawed and not " sticking " to or

'searching for' the verity (as opposed to VARIETY)? ;-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

> vedic astrology , Jacques Le Vangie <mojavecowboy@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini:

> >

> > In the field of Chinese metaphysics, there is a spurious " classic " full of

errors, about the method known as Zi Wei, which has been around for a thousand

years or more. Yet to this day the book is sold and relied upon as the

foundation for that method.

> >

> > Once these flawed works enter the mainstream, they are difficult to get rid

of, since they gain their adherents.

> >

> > Jacques

> >

> > --- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

> > vedic astrology

> > Received: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 2:59 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Jha Saheb,

> >

> >

> >

> > It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that these

various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by professional

jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious differences have not been

identified and commented upon until very recently! Mind boggling!!

> >

> >

> >

> > One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ ness' plagues the other

so called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less 'exposed'

literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too openly may end up

being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of scriptural texts, in the

final analysis!

> >

> >

> >

> > Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such intense

nostalgia...

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Members,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

> >

> > > Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

> >

> > > know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

> >

> > > spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

> >

> > > Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

> >

> > > Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

> >

> > > Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

> >

> > > the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

> >

> > > chapters.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

> >

> > > AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

> >

> > > Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

> >

> > > ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

> >

> > > convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

> >

> > > editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

> >

> > > published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

> >

> > > more chapters !!

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

> >

> > > chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

> >

> > > chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

> >

> > > Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

> >

> > > chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

> >

> > > inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

> >

> > > editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

> >

> > > verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

> >

> > > latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

> >

> > > are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

> >

> > > University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

> >

> > > do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

> >

> > > this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

> >

> > > manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

> >

> > > before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

> >

> > > of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

> >

> > > Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

> >

> > > Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

> >

> > > Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

> >

> > > Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

> >

> > > in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > -Vinay Jha

> >

> > > ============ ======== ===

> >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rohini:

 

Many of the adherents don't know, since the original is in Chinese and they only

know English. But the controversy goes back for centuries.

 

Jacques

 

--- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

[vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

vedic astrology

Received: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 6:44 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Jacques,

 

 

 

Are you implying that the adherents are flawed and not " sticking " to or

'searching for' the verity (as opposed to VARIETY)? ;-)

 

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Jacques Le Vangie <mojavecowboy@ ...>

wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Rohini:

 

>

 

> In the field of Chinese metaphysics, there is a spurious " classic " full of

errors, about the method known as Zi Wei, which has been around for a thousand

years or more. Yet to this day the book is sold and relied upon as the

foundation for that method.

 

>

 

> Once these flawed works enter the mainstream, they are difficult to get rid

of, since they gain their adherents.

 

>

 

> Jacques

 

>

 

> --- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

 

> [vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

 

> vedic astrology

 

> Received: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 2:59 PM

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>  

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Jha Saheb,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that these

various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by professional

jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious differences have not been

identified and commented upon until very recently! Mind boggling!!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ ness' plagues the other so

called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less 'exposed'

literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too openly may end up

being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of scriptural texts, in the

final analysis!

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such intense

nostalgia...

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Regards,

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Rohiniranjan

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> vedic astrology, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Members,

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

 

>

 

> > Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

 

>

 

> > know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

 

>

 

> > spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

 

>

 

> > Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

 

>

 

> > Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

 

>

 

> > Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

 

>

 

> > the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

 

>

 

> > chapters.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

 

>

 

> > AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

 

>

 

> > Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

 

>

 

> > ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

 

>

 

> > convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

 

>

 

> > editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

 

>

 

> > published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

 

>

 

> > more chapters !!

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

 

>

 

> > chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

 

>

 

> > chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

 

>

 

> > Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

 

>

 

> > chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

 

>

 

> > inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

 

>

 

> > editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

 

>

 

> > verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

 

>

 

> > latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

 

>

 

> > are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

 

>

 

> > University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

 

>

 

> > do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

 

>

 

> > this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

 

>

 

> > manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

 

>

 

> > before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

 

>

 

> > of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

 

>

 

> > Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

 

>

 

> > Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

 

>

 

> > Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

 

>

 

> > Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

 

>

 

> > in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

> > -Vinay Jha

 

>

 

> > ============ ======== ===

 

>

 

> >

 

>

 

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That, to say the least, sounds like a very 'sticky' situation, Jacques/Jack!

 

Good luck!!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

vedic astrology , Jacques Le Vangie <mojavecowboy

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini:

>

> Many of the adherents don't know, since the original is in Chinese and they

only know English. But the controversy goes back for centuries.

>

> Jacques

>

> --- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> [vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

> vedic astrology

> Received: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 6:44 PM

>

 

>

>

>

Dear Jacques,

>

>

>

> Are you implying that the adherents are flawed and not " sticking " to or

'searching for' the verity (as opposed to VARIETY)? ;-)

>

>

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Jacques Le Vangie <mojavecowboy@

....> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Dear Rohini:

>

> >

>

> > In the field of Chinese metaphysics, there is a spurious " classic " full of

errors, about the method known as Zi Wei, which has been around for a thousand

years or more. Yet to this day the book is sold and relied upon as the

foundation for that method.

>

> >

>

> > Once these flawed works enter the mainstream, they are difficult to get rid

of, since they gain their adherents.

>

> >

>

> > Jacques

>

> >

>

> > --- On Thu, 25/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

>

> > [vedic astrology] Re: BPHS : Which Edition is Reliable ?

>

> > vedic astrology

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> > Dear Jha Saheb,

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> > It is amazing to see that for so many decades (near 100 years?) that these

various editions have been in existence and use and referred to by professional

jyotishis and jyotish teachers, and yet such obvious differences have not been

identified and commented upon until very recently! Mind boggling!!

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> > One wonders if a similar confusion or 'htoch-potch_ ness' plagues the other

so called 'scriptures' in jyotish etc as well! Probably the less 'exposed'

literature that did not show up in the 'market-place' too openly may end up

being the only relatively nascent and virginal form of scriptural texts, in the

final analysis!

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> > Ah there is such PEACE even in the thoughts about Kashi and such intense

nostalgia...

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> > Regards,

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> > Rohiniranjan

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> > vedic astrology, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

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> > > Members,

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> > > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

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> > > Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users

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> > > know that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some

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> > > spurious version published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand

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> > > Sanskrit University (then a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt

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> > > Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added some portions related to

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> > > Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra, thus inflating

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> > > the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more kmaginary

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> > > chapters.

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> > >

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> > > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

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> > > AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar

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> > > Press of Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of

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> > > ancient books. Later, Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with

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> > > convincing proofs, which Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later

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> > > editions of BPHS continued the tradition started by Sitaram Jha and

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> > > published spurious chapters, just to show that their edition includes

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> > > more chapters !!

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> > >

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> > > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97

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> > > chapters, while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71

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> > > chapters. The latter lacks many chapters which are not part of

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> >

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> > > Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that he added these non-Hora

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> >

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> > > chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat race of

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> >

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> > > inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

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> >

>

> > > editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781

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> >

>

> > > verses of Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the

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> >

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> > > latter introduced a large number of verses from unnamed sources which

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> > > are part of Samhitaa and not of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

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> > >

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> > > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

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> > > University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I

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> > > do not take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing

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> > > this issue with all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting

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> >

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> > > manuscript collections in variopus universities. It will take some time

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> >

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> > > before we arrive at any firm conclusion.

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> > >

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> > > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few

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> > > of them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

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> > >

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> > > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

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> > > Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition.

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> >

>

> > > Hindi commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha) and Thakur

>

> >

>

> > > Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

>

> >

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> > > Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

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> > > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts

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> > > in the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

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> > > -Vinay Jha

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To All,

 

It is noteworthy that ancient and mediaeval Sanskrit scholars did not write any

commentory (bhaashya) on BPHS ; it was because no one dares to explain the full

logic behind Sage Parashara's sayings. Only a Rishi can do so. We can attempt

only partially. Translators were needed only in our age, when Sanskrit went out

of vogue even among a lot of Indian astrologers.

 

Among all editors and translators of BPHS, Pt Tarachandra Shastri (and his son),

Pt Sitaram Jha, Pt Devachandra Jha, Ganeshdatt Pathak and Padmanabha Sharma were

reputed teachers and learned scholars of Sanskrit language. The original Khemraj

edition by Pt Tarachandra Shastri had many loopholes which irritated Pt Sitaram

Jha. When Pt Sitaram Jha found some real or imaginary fault in any scholar, he

could not control his anger and foul language. Even Pt Sudhakar Dwivedi could

not escape Pt Sitaram Jha's ire. In spite of all his erudition, Pt Sitaram Jha

had no respect for other scholars and had a habit of throwing the baby with

bathtub. Such an egotist person cannot edit or translate another's work

properly. The unpardonable crime of Pt Sitaram Jha was that he added a large

number of verses and even chapters into BPHS, which he acknowledges in his

preface, without even mentioning which portions were original and which were

added by him. He said that

(1) he added some parts related to Samhitaa (ie, not a part of Horaa), (2) he

" corrected " many verses in the manuscript which did not suit his tastes, and (3)

added some unspecified portions from some unspecified sources.

 

This type of behaviour with an ancient text is simply unpardonable and is a sign

of lack of proper education and training in this field. Moreover, it is

dishonesty. Deliberate distortion of an ancient text for any reason is a crime.

Pt Sitaram Jha was a good scholar of Sanskrit, and one of the unspecified souces

of his additions into BPHS was his own inventiveness. This type of unruly

treatment of ancient Puranas, Mahabharata, etc is well known. Such pandits did

not know that instead of performing Rishi-yajna, they were destroying the works

of Rishis and were incurring sins.

 

Pt Devachandra Jha was better than Pt Sitaram Jha. Pt Devachandra Jha

" corrected " many verses according to rules of Sanskrit grammar and prosody which

were illegible in the manuscripts. But unlike Pt Sitaram Jha, Pt Devachandra Jha

did not tamper with the original unless the original was illegible. Moreover, Pt

Devachandra Jha travelled a lot to procure a lot of manuscripts, while Pt

Sitaram Jha relied on a single manuscript and did not try to unearth others.

None of the editors of BPHS made any strenuous effort to procure as many

manuscripts as possible, excepting Pt Devachandra Jha. English translators had

no interest in consulting any manuscript at all.

 

It does not mean Pt Devachandra Jha was above board. He blindly accepted the

additional chapters introduced by Pt Sitaram Jha, because he was under a

pressure to produce 100 chapters through any means. But Pt Devachandra Jha did

not accept Pt Sitaram Jha's whimsical " corrections " or additions in those

chapters which were legible and clear in manuscripts. Pt Ganeshadatt Pathak did

the same. Pt Devachandra Jha and Pt Ganeshadatt Pathak must be thanked for their

efforts. The Khemraj edition cannot be accepted blindly.

 

The only proper method is to prepare a text based on all available original

material, indicating their sources. My guess is that BPHS had nearly 13000 or

more verses originally (11000 in initial 80 chapters, and unspecified number of

verses in remaining 20 chapters), and however hard we try we cannot recover even

half of these original verses, unless some unknown manuscripts are unearthed.

 

In the preface of this forthcoming edition of BPHS, I will request / warn all

publishers not to add imaginary verses into BPHS without concrete evidences,

otherwise I will sue them in proper courts of law.

 

-Vinay Jha

============ ========= ======== =====

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Members,

>

> BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita Jyotisha

(only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users know that almost

all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some spurious version published by

Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University (then a college).

He procured a manuscript from Pt Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha and added

some portions related to Samhitaa which are actually not a part of Horashaastra,

thus inflating the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added some more

kmaginary chapters.

>

> The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946 AD)

includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar Press of

Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of ancient books. Later,

Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with convincing proofs, which

Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later editions of BPHS continued the

tradition started by Sitaram Jha and published spurious chapters, just to show

that their edition includes more chapters !!

>

> Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97 chapters,

while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71 chapters. The latter lacks

many chapters which are not part of Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that

he added these non-Hora chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat

race of inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

>

> I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781 verses of

Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the latter introduced a

large number of verses from unnamed sources which are part of Samhitaa and not

of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

>

> Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I do not

take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing this issue with

all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting manuscript collections

in variopus universities. It will take some time before we arrive at any firm

conclusion.

>

> BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few of

them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

>

> Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi Mahesh

Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition. Hindi commentaries

from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha and another by padmanabha Sharma) and

Thakur Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

>

> I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts in the

project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ==================== ===

>

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I think, and I certainly do not speak for everyone, what we have now in terms of

BPHS and other classics are sufficient to keep our modern noses to the

grindstone for a few lifetimes, even if we do astrology full-time.

 

Lot of people forget that and begin to focus on the negatives and inexplicables

and thereby tend to throw the baby out with the bath-water!

 

Hindi has a interesting expression for this 'meen-mekh nikalnaa' for those who

are over-analytical and over critical (too anal in psychological terms). I

wonder why aries and pisces were chosen out of the 12 rashis for that

descriptive label!

 

Evolution of culture is so vividly expressed in the evolution of its language! I

hope I come back in my next lifetime as a linguist! Fascinating domain!

 

RR_,

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> To All,

>

> It is noteworthy that ancient and mediaeval Sanskrit scholars did not write

any commentory (bhaashya) on BPHS ; it was because no one dares to explain the

full logic behind Sage Parashara's sayings. Only a Rishi can do so. We can

attempt only partially. Translators were needed only in our age, when Sanskrit

went out of vogue even among a lot of Indian astrologers.

>

> Among all editors and translators of BPHS, Pt Tarachandra Shastri (and his

son), Pt Sitaram Jha, Pt Devachandra Jha, Ganeshdatt Pathak and Padmanabha

Sharma were reputed teachers and learned scholars of Sanskrit language. The

original Khemraj edition by Pt Tarachandra Shastri had many loopholes which

irritated Pt Sitaram Jha. When Pt Sitaram Jha found some real or imaginary fault

in any scholar, he could not control his anger and foul language. Even Pt

Sudhakar Dwivedi could not escape Pt Sitaram Jha's ire. In spite of all his

erudition, Pt Sitaram Jha had no respect for other scholars and had a habit of

throwing the baby with bathtub. Such an egotist person cannot edit or translate

another's work properly. The unpardonable crime of Pt Sitaram Jha was that he

added a large number of verses and even chapters into BPHS, which he

acknowledges in his preface, without even mentioning which portions were

original and which were added by him. He said that

> (1) he added some parts related to Samhitaa (ie, not a part of Horaa), (2) he

" corrected " many verses in the manuscript which did not suit his tastes, and (3)

added some unspecified portions from some unspecified sources.

>

> This type of behaviour with an ancient text is simply unpardonable and is a

sign of lack of proper education and training in this field. Moreover, it is

dishonesty. Deliberate distortion of an ancient text for any reason is a crime.

Pt Sitaram Jha was a good scholar of Sanskrit, and one of the unspecified souces

of his additions into BPHS was his own inventiveness. This type of unruly

treatment of ancient Puranas, Mahabharata, etc is well known. Such pandits did

not know that instead of performing Rishi-yajna, they were destroying the works

of Rishis and were incurring sins.

>

> Pt Devachandra Jha was better than Pt Sitaram Jha. Pt Devachandra Jha

" corrected " many verses according to rules of Sanskrit grammar and prosody which

were illegible in the manuscripts. But unlike Pt Sitaram Jha, Pt Devachandra Jha

did not tamper with the original unless the original was illegible. Moreover, Pt

Devachandra Jha travelled a lot to procure a lot of manuscripts, while Pt

Sitaram Jha relied on a single manuscript and did not try to unearth others.

None of the editors of BPHS made any strenuous effort to procure as many

manuscripts as possible, excepting Pt Devachandra Jha. English translators had

no interest in consulting any manuscript at all.

>

> It does not mean Pt Devachandra Jha was above board. He blindly accepted the

additional chapters introduced by Pt Sitaram Jha, because he was under a

pressure to produce 100 chapters through any means. But Pt Devachandra Jha did

not accept Pt Sitaram Jha's whimsical " corrections " or additions in those

chapters which were legible and clear in manuscripts. Pt Ganeshadatt Pathak did

the same. Pt Devachandra Jha and Pt Ganeshadatt Pathak must be thanked for their

efforts. The Khemraj edition cannot be accepted blindly.

>

> The only proper method is to prepare a text based on all available original

material, indicating their sources. My guess is that BPHS had nearly 13000 or

more verses originally (11000 in initial 80 chapters, and unspecified number of

verses in remaining 20 chapters), and however hard we try we cannot recover even

half of these original verses, unless some unknown manuscripts are unearthed.

>

> In the preface of this forthcoming edition of BPHS, I will request / warn

all publishers not to add imaginary verses into BPHS without concrete evidences,

otherwise I will sue them in proper courts of law.

>

> -Vinay Jha

> ============ ========= ======== =====

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Members,

> >

> > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users know

that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some spurious version

published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University (then

a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha

and added some portions related to Samhitaa which are actually not a part of

Horashaastra, thus inflating the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added

some more kmaginary chapters.

> >

> > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946 AD)

includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar Press of

Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of ancient books. Later,

Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with convincing proofs, which

Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later editions of BPHS continued the

tradition started by Sitaram Jha and published spurious chapters, just to show

that their edition includes more chapters !!

> >

> > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97 chapters,

while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71 chapters. The latter lacks

many chapters which are not part of Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that

he added these non-Hora chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat

race of inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

> >

> > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781 verses of

Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the latter introduced a

large number of verses from unnamed sources which are part of Samhitaa and not

of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

> >

> > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I do not

take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing this issue with

all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting manuscript collections

in variopus universities. It will take some time before we arrive at any firm

conclusion.

> >

> > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few of

them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

> >

> > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi Mahesh

Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition. Hindi commentaries

from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha and another by padmanabha Sharma) and

Thakur Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases. Venkateshwar

Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

> >

> > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts in

the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ==================== ===

> >

>

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Rohini Da,

 

I want to collect all verses of various editions of BPHS in a single edition,

indicating the sources so that readers will be able to decide which variant is

better.

 

-VJ

========================= ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> I think, and I certainly do not speak for everyone, what we have now in terms

of BPHS and other classics are sufficient to keep our modern noses to the

grindstone for a few lifetimes, even if we do astrology full-time.

>

> Lot of people forget that and begin to focus on the negatives and

inexplicables and thereby tend to throw the baby out with the bath-water!

>

> Hindi has a interesting expression for this 'meen-mekh nikalnaa' for those who

are over-analytical and over critical (too anal in psychological terms). I

wonder why aries and pisces were chosen out of the 12 rashis for that

descriptive label!

>

> Evolution of culture is so vividly expressed in the evolution of its language!

I hope I come back in my next lifetime as a linguist! Fascinating domain!

>

> RR_,

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > To All,

> >

> > It is noteworthy that ancient and mediaeval Sanskrit scholars did not write

any commentory (bhaashya) on BPHS ; it was because no one dares to explain the

full logic behind Sage Parashara's sayings. Only a Rishi can do so. We can

attempt only partially. Translators were needed only in our age, when Sanskrit

went out of vogue even among a lot of Indian astrologers.

> >

> > Among all editors and translators of BPHS, Pt Tarachandra Shastri (and his

son), Pt Sitaram Jha, Pt Devachandra Jha, Ganeshdatt Pathak and Padmanabha

Sharma were reputed teachers and learned scholars of Sanskrit language. The

original Khemraj edition by Pt Tarachandra Shastri had many loopholes which

irritated Pt Sitaram Jha. When Pt Sitaram Jha found some real or imaginary fault

in any scholar, he could not control his anger and foul language. Even Pt

Sudhakar Dwivedi could not escape Pt Sitaram Jha's ire. In spite of all his

erudition, Pt Sitaram Jha had no respect for other scholars and had a habit of

throwing the baby with bathtub. Such an egotist person cannot edit or translate

another's work properly. The unpardonable crime of Pt Sitaram Jha was that he

added a large number of verses and even chapters into BPHS, which he

acknowledges in his preface, without even mentioning which portions were

original and which were added by him. He said that

> > (1) he added some parts related to Samhitaa (ie, not a part of Horaa), (2)

he " corrected " many verses in the manuscript which did not suit his tastes, and

(3) added some unspecified portions from some unspecified sources.

> >

> > This type of behaviour with an ancient text is simply unpardonable and is a

sign of lack of proper education and training in this field. Moreover, it is

dishonesty. Deliberate distortion of an ancient text for any reason is a crime.

Pt Sitaram Jha was a good scholar of Sanskrit, and one of the unspecified souces

of his additions into BPHS was his own inventiveness. This type of unruly

treatment of ancient Puranas, Mahabharata, etc is well known. Such pandits did

not know that instead of performing Rishi-yajna, they were destroying the works

of Rishis and were incurring sins.

> >

> > Pt Devachandra Jha was better than Pt Sitaram Jha. Pt Devachandra Jha

" corrected " many verses according to rules of Sanskrit grammar and prosody which

were illegible in the manuscripts. But unlike Pt Sitaram Jha, Pt Devachandra Jha

did not tamper with the original unless the original was illegible. Moreover, Pt

Devachandra Jha travelled a lot to procure a lot of manuscripts, while Pt

Sitaram Jha relied on a single manuscript and did not try to unearth others.

None of the editors of BPHS made any strenuous effort to procure as many

manuscripts as possible, excepting Pt Devachandra Jha. English translators had

no interest in consulting any manuscript at all.

> >

> > It does not mean Pt Devachandra Jha was above board. He blindly accepted the

additional chapters introduced by Pt Sitaram Jha, because he was under a

pressure to produce 100 chapters through any means. But Pt Devachandra Jha did

not accept Pt Sitaram Jha's whimsical " corrections " or additions in those

chapters which were legible and clear in manuscripts. Pt Ganeshadatt Pathak did

the same. Pt Devachandra Jha and Pt Ganeshadatt Pathak must be thanked for their

efforts. The Khemraj edition cannot be accepted blindly.

> >

> > The only proper method is to prepare a text based on all available original

material, indicating their sources. My guess is that BPHS had nearly 13000 or

more verses originally (11000 in initial 80 chapters, and unspecified number of

verses in remaining 20 chapters), and however hard we try we cannot recover even

half of these original verses, unless some unknown manuscripts are unearthed.

> >

> > In the preface of this forthcoming edition of BPHS, I will request / warn

all publishers not to add imaginary verses into BPHS without concrete evidences,

otherwise I will sue them in proper courts of law.

> >

> > -Vinay Jha

> > ============ ========= ======== =====

> > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Members,

> > >

> > > BPHS is the most comprehensive and reliable textbook of Vedic Phalita

Jyotisha (only fragments of Jaimini's book have survived). But few users know

that almost all the popular editions of BPHS are based on some spurious version

published by Sitaram Jha, a professor at Sampoornanand Sanskrit University (then

a college). He procured a manuscript from Pt Jeevanath Jha via Pt Kashinath Jha

and added some portions related to Samhitaa which are actually not a part of

Horashaastra, thus inflating the book to 97 chapters. Some later editors added

some more kmaginary chapters.

> > >

> > > The editorial of earliest of all these editions(ie, by sitaram Jha, 1946

AD) includes a virulent attack on a Bombay Edition by Shri Venkateshwar Press of

Khemraaj Ji, which is one of the most authentic sources of ancient books. Later,

Venkateshwar Edition answered these charges with convincing proofs, which

Sitaram Jha never answered. Yet, all later editions of BPHS continued the

tradition started by Sitaram Jha and published spurious chapters, just to show

that their edition includes more chapters !!

> > >

> > > Still, Sitaram Jha's edition contains only 4001 verses in its 97 chapters,

while Venkateshwar Edition contains 5781 verses in 71 chapters. The latter lacks

many chapters which are not part of Horaashaastra. Sitaram Jha acknowledged that

he added these non-Hora chapters in BPHS. Yet all later editors joined this rat

race of inflating BPHS by adding newly invented chapters.

> > >

> > > I request interested members to compare Venkateshwar Edition with other

editions before reaching at any firm comclusion. Nearly half of 5781 verses of

Venkateshwar Edition were deleted by Sitaram Jha and the latter introduced a

large number of verses from unnamed sources which are part of Samhitaa and not

of Horashaastra acoording to himself.

> > >

> > > Presently, I am residing in the guest house of Sampoornanand Sanskrit

University and I am also teaching the sudents at its Jyotisha classes (I do not

take any salary) as long as I reside in Kashi. I am discussing this issue with

all notable Jyotishis of Kashi and I am also consulting manuscript collections

in variopus universities. It will take some time before we arrive at any firm

conclusion.

> > >

> > > BPHS was known to ancient astrologers, but was available to only a few of

them, just because of lack of printing press & c.

> > >

> > > Editions by GC Sharma, Santhanam and internet version (from Maharshi

Mahesh Yogi university library) are based on Sitaram Jha's edition. Hindi

commentaries from Chowkhambha (by Devachandra Jha and another by padmanabha

Sharma) and Thakur Prasad (by GD Pathak) differ in a large nuimber of cases.

Venkateshwar Edition contains 1780 additional verses which need to be examined.

> > >

> > > I hope members will help me in collecting all editions and manuscripts in

the project of a new critical edition of BPHS.

> > >

> > > -Vinay Jha

> > > ==================== ===

> > >

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