Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Dear Krishnan ji, I see the quotations given at the end of your message and it makes me into thinking mode.Quite long ago I put forward a small hypothesis, which was neither accepted or rejected by learned astrolgers in these forums.I again say that. In astrology we are mostly believing that planets are controlling our destiny.My point is that planets are not at-all controlling our destiny they are only indicating [if one can read properly] the destiny. Like a watch does not controll time it only indicates the time. Planets are also controlled by time. Exactly you can know, on this date 10years from now[2020] Jupiter will at 29* Sagi, Sat will be 6* Capri and Moon and Sun in Pisces Moon in Revati and Sun in Uttrabhadra.Where is the option? Planets indicate how variuos things are in which way- Mercury conciousness or Jupitarian conciousness , reactions and results , ups and downs. Collective planets readings is astrology. As there are different types and modes of watches to indicate times as are different type of astrologies. Some people keep their watches some minutes say 10-15 minutes in advance or back to suit them, simlarly differnt Ayanmasas are there and you have to calibrate yourself to give prediction. So in my opinion, wiseman can not control planets and planets are also not neutral controllers. Everything is controlled by Time _KALACHAKRA. Inder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Dear Inder ji, this is indeed a very thought provoking post. Thanks regards Kulbir Bains. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:36 PM, inder <indervohra2001 wrote: > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > I see the quotations given at the end of your message and it makes me into > thinking mode.Quite long ago I put forward a small hypothesis, which was > neither accepted or rejected by learned astrolgers in these forums.I again > say that. > > In astrology we are mostly believing that planets are controlling our > destiny.My point is that planets are not at-all controlling our destiny they > are only indicating [if one can read properly] the destiny. Like a watch > does not controll time it only indicates the time. > > Planets are also controlled by time. Exactly you can know, on this date > 10years from now[2020] Jupiter will at 29* Sagi, Sat will be 6* Capri and > Moon and Sun in Pisces Moon in Revati and Sun in Uttrabhadra.Where is the > option? > > Planets indicate how variuos things are in which way- Mercury conciousness > or Jupitarian conciousness , reactions and results , ups and downs. > Collective planets readings is astrology. > > As there are different types and modes of watches to indicate times as are > different type of astrologies. Some people keep their watches some minutes > say 10-15 minutes in advance or back to suit them, simlarly differnt > Ayanmasas are there and you have to calibrate yourself to give prediction. > > So in my opinion, wiseman can not control planets and planets are also not > neutral controllers. Everything is controlled by Time _KALACHAKRA. > > Inder > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 Dear Shri Inder Ji and Members, Namaskarams.This is where we as human beings have supremacy and have evolved to think,observe and infer various mysteries present in Nature. We have been acknowledging in several ways the cosmic influences over Human affairs with regards to Destiny. For all of us Destiny is about future as well as past.Human a wise man inidicates how planets behave or purport to give results. The other issue that arises whether " control' of destiny is in the purview of planets or not.is it the time that controls planets and in turn humans to behave? It is now a time tested observation that planets movements in zodiac are time oriented and related. when it comes to any planet it's good or bad is not decided unconditionally. As the destiny of a person is always seen from the moment of epoch and at that time the position of moon and sun.If collectively they refer to good past and so good future certainly the delineation becomes very clear that he is blessed. This element of uncertainity in the fate of humans with reference to the birth and along with that carries the future of the native depending on his actions from birth to death. Also there is also a sense of " make good' the future of human being by conscious efforts.If sooth sayer or an Astrologer can indicate and suggest by proper analysis of various things through jyotish,certainly the human being need nor curse his life. Probably in this context of taking guidance credits human being as " wise " .It is this sense of of seeking advice becomes most fateful for the person/human beings. " Planetary influences on Human Affairs " is a book of Late BVR written in 1946.I collected this quote referred by you from that book. He summarises the Astrology essence as " the planets and stars in their positions and mutual relations influence human lives in their minute particular. An incident relating to Alaxender's court was also mentioned in his book: Ancient Astrologers in India predicted death of Alexander by poisoioning in baby lon. Alexanded avoided that city for a long " but in some in one of his strategic move he entered and died in Babylon by poisioning. The world as a matter of fact is full of mysteries.whether planets indicate or not is an issue that needs further probe.To say yes or no is not in our easy reach. As Shakespear put it " there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of Horatio's philosophy. It is good that we initiate by way of thinking mode and propose a hypothesis and test collective reading of planets known to be Astrology and infer. what finally benifits human beings is the wisdom that contained in jyotish.we need this wisdom for more and more people and test and benifit from planets indication. Finally it is jyotish who is able to decode indication and communicate to the people in distress and help them to fulfil objectives of jyotish. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services) Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote: > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb > Re: Fools obey the planets > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 10:07 AM > Dear Inder ji, this is indeed a very > thought provoking post. > Thanks > regards > Kulbir Bains. > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:36 PM, inder <indervohra2001 > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > > > I see the quotations given at the end of your message > and it makes me into > > thinking mode.Quite long ago I put forward a small > hypothesis, which was > > neither accepted or rejected by learned astrolgers in > these forums.I again > > say that. > > > > In astrology we are mostly believing that planets are > controlling our > > destiny.My point is that planets are not at-all > controlling our destiny they > > are only indicating [if one can read properly] the > destiny. Like a watch > > does not controll time it only indicates the time. > > > > Planets are also controlled by time. Exactly you can > know, on this date > > 10years from now[2020] Jupiter will at 29* Sagi, Sat > will be 6* Capri and > > Moon and Sun in Pisces Moon in Revati and Sun in > Uttrabhadra.Where is the > > option? > > > > Planets indicate how variuos things are in which way- > Mercury conciousness > > or Jupitarian conciousness , reactions and results , > ups and downs. > > Collective planets readings is astrology. > > > > As there are different types and modes of watches to > indicate times as are > > different type of astrologies. Some people keep their > watches some minutes > > say 10-15 minutes in advance or back to suit them, > simlarly differnt > > Ayanmasas are there and you have to calibrate yourself > to give prediction. > > > > So in my opinion, wiseman can not control planets and > planets are also not > > neutral controllers. Everything is controlled by Time > _KALACHAKRA. > > > > Inder > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I have never believed that planets " control " our destinies. Planets merely indicate our destinies and propensities. They are 'synchronized' (macrocosm-microcosm) and yoked through some mysterious/mystical relationship between human/human-experience and the Universe. Only God/Nature is the controller! I will write more later in the evening perhaps or later -- although I have written about that a few times in my articles on Boloji and elsewhere... This topic is a perpetuum mobile, a seasonal favourite that keeps coming up again and again :-) RR_, , " inder " <indervohra2001 wrote: > > Dear Krishnan ji, > > I see the quotations given at the end of your message and it makes me into thinking mode.Quite long ago I put forward a small hypothesis, which was neither accepted or rejected by learned astrolgers in these forums.I again say that. > > In astrology we are mostly believing that planets are controlling our destiny.My point is that planets are not at-all controlling our destiny they are only indicating [if one can read properly] the destiny. Like a watch does not controll time it only indicates the time. > > Planets are also controlled by time. Exactly you can know, on this date 10years from now[2020] Jupiter will at 29* Sagi, Sat will be 6* Capri and Moon and Sun in Pisces Moon in Revati and Sun in Uttrabhadra.Where is the option? > > Planets indicate how variuos things are in which way- Mercury conciousness or Jupitarian conciousness , reactions and results , ups and downs. Collective planets readings is astrology. > > As there are different types and modes of watches to indicate times as are different type of astrologies. Some people keep their watches some minutes say 10-15 minutes in advance or back to suit them, simlarly differnt Ayanmasas are there and you have to calibrate yourself to give prediction. > > So in my opinion, wiseman can not control planets and planets are also not neutral controllers. Everything is controlled by Time _KALACHAKRA. > > Inder > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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