About efficacy of Ashtakvarg & Timing of Death &c

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Analysis of four deaths has been presented at this website :

 

http://jyotirvidya.wetpaint.com/page/Prediction+of+Death

 

-VJ

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, " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Mishra Ji,

>

> What I have experienced is that the predictions or calculation related

> to timings of Marriage and Death

> are the most intriguing aspects of any chart. If jyotishis say that

the

> time of marriage will come in next 3 m0nths, a ray of marriage bliss

is

> kindled in the heart of the questioner. It is other matter that this

> period of 3 months may go on happening and the marriage may take place

> after ,say after 12 cycles of 3 months or may be 36 cycles also. This

is

> very simple ,because the maximum timings for marriage yoga go on

> appearing in the birth charts to all of us, the jyotishis,everytime we

> sudy any chart.

>

> Coming to death and the efficacy of Ashtak Varga about it. I do not

> believe that any jyotishi can solely depend upon only the Ashtak

Varga,

> as there are a lot number of vargs,conditions, ayuryogas in a birth

> chart, and it is ther most complicated excercise for any jyotishi.

May

> be, we could be able to see some death like situation . But, normally

we

> become wiser , after the event of death has occurred.

>

> Now your very interesting observation about the timing of death of one

> of the Twins. This is again the real tough and very unfortunate time

for

> any jyotishi to calculate or tell wisely why only ONE of the twins has

> died. There are hundereds of similarities in the birth charts of

twins,

> although few differences do appear in the higher Varga charts of the

> twins, and we may be able to tell about the difference in behavioural

> patters, tastes, intelligence level, education (one may be scoring

less

> marks compared to the other twin), their health, their career graph

> etc(here too the biggest help comes in the way the problems,hurdles

etc

> are quesioned by their parents from a Jyotishi,or the jyotishi also

> happens to observe the traits of the twins, if he happens to know the

> family well. But again the jyotishis become helpless and frustrated,

> when it comes to their marriages,spouse,progeny ,and lastly the death.

>

> I have faced such predicament and situations on 5-6 occassions about

the

> matters related to the previously stated fields of twins and on 2

> occasions the death of one of twins . The latest case is given below

> for all jyotishis ,where there is no clear indication for death of

one

> of the twins. (This is copy of my mail send to a Guru, as I was not

able

> to pin point things correctly), and I did not get reply.

>

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>

> Dear Sir,

>

> One of my client was in touch with me for 9 months as he was not

able

> to take care of his newly wedded wife,due to his own indifferent

> attitude,but was willing to change. He accepted my advice on some

> mantras and his wife informed me in April that now he is normal and

they

> are leading happy life.

>

> I got a call from his wife stating that her husband has died of

heart

> attack on November,30 morning approx between 5-15, 5-20 AM, when he

> awoke from his sleep,to get ready to go to the call centre; and

> compalined severe pain in chest, and collapsed,with no signs of life,

> before other family members could reach their room.

>

>

>

> The birth particulars of the Boy are : ANUJ ,Date 10th December 1979,

> Time 8:01 AM, Delhi.

>

>

>

> During the telephonica chat , her sister in law also came on the line

> and told me that Anuj has a twin brother and she is married to him.

> Name:- AMIT,10 December,1979,Time 8.00 AM, Delhi. She was worried

about

> her husband. After this I have been examinig birth charts of both the

> brothers. Their all divisional charts are same, and the difference

> comes only in lagna of D-81 and D-108.

>

>

>

> The Mrityu Sahama of late Anuj is 4 Sc00'27.59 (Anu).

>

> The Mrityu Sahama of brother Amit is 3 Sc 33'25.72 (Anu)

>

> ( Venus was in 3 Sc 34.58.34 in Anu in the morning of 30th

> November,2009)

>

>

>

> In their longitudes and basic info, the Kaala is 14 Ta 31'27.41-Rohi-2

> for late Anuj and 14 Ta 31'27.59(Roh-2)for Amit. I would like to

mention

> that apart from vimshotri and other related dashas, I have since

> examined the Kalchakra Dasha of late Anuj and his twin Amit.This dasha

> for Anuj is of Le from 16-08-2006 to 16-082011. Antardasha is of Ca

from

> 20-12-2008 till 07-01-2010. Deha dasha of Le-Ca-Ca-Li-Vi-Cn was

> operative at the time of his death i.e. from 03:45:24 am on

30-11-2009.

> As far I can analyse Mooon appears to have played major role as it is

> lord of 8th house(placed in 9th house with Sun,Ju ,Ma,Ra in rashi

chart)

> and Ve the lord of 6th and 11th and Ma the lord of 5th and 12th have

> also played their supportive role?

>

>

>

> Placement of Su,Ju,Ma,Ra in sign leo in rasi chart,which is aspected

by

> Ke from 3rd house also appear to have caused heart failure, as Ma and

Ju

> are deb in gochara and Ra is also aspecting sign Li,and Ju and Mo have

> rashi drishti on sign le.

>

>

>

> Further, the KC dasha of Amit is also that of Le, but it commenced 8

> days later w.e.f. 24-08-2006 and he was running the dashas of

> Le-Cn-Cn-Li-Aq-Ta from 04:50 am on 30-11-2009. In this case

involvement

> of Sa is also present, but mercifully he is hale and hearty,so far! I

am

> at a loss to work out the Ayur calculations for Amit and also utterly

> confused, as to how to predict future for him.

>

>

>

> I can only add here that when yesterday late Anuj's wife was talking

to

> me she was repeating confidently that her husband will return to her

in

> the form of her child. I had a look at her D-7 and Narayan Dashas and

> felt confident that she most probably had conceived about 3-4 days

> before the death of her husband. When her sister-in-law talked to me,

> she told that about 2 hours back family had taken the widowed girl to

a

> lady doctor, who told them that she will re-examine her on 11th

> November ; and only then would be able to tell something.

>

>

>

> On 15th November,I was informed that the girl is indeed pregnant. I

am

> wonder struck on the ways of the destiny and the leela of God. I will

> humbly request you to please give your expert opinion in this matter.

I

> shall be grateful for your guidance! Thanking you.

>

> ============

>

> After waiting for the reply from Guruji, I send the mail to another

Guru

> and I got a reply from him that for the twins, the lagna of the

younger

> one should be examined by taking the 3rd house as his lagna,but he

> informed that he will not be able to divulge more about this Rule. I

> just felt satisfied, as a student of jyotish.

>

> Since I have found that this is the right time for me to share this

with

> all jyotishis, I have written this message,with the hope that it could

> prove useful for all.

>

> But, Mishraji, I have one humble request for you and few other

members,

> we are in the field of jyotish for learning and not in a AKHHARA for a

> MAL-L Yudha ! With my best regards.

>

> Raj Bhardwaj

>

>

>

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

> dhirendranathmisra@ wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRSir,Instead to enlighten me on Ashtakvarg,you are

> talking about folks as if they are being misguided,but certainly

not.No

> statement is made recklessly on Internet

> > and specially when & where monitoring is being done by so

experienced

> and learned person like you.You are absolutely right that every

> claim must be supported with cogent documentary evidence.Other wise

> claim petitions are rejected for want of proof.How ever supporting

> documents are needed to be filed when claim is denied specifically and

> not evasively.Evasive denial means acceptance.

> > With thanks & regards,

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> > Â

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> >

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> > ________________________________

> > rohinicrystal jyotish_vani@

> >

> > Sun, March 28, 2010 6:25:37 AM

> > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg

> >

> > Â

> > Misra_jee,

> >

> > Yours has got to be one of the most recklessly penned statement

posted

> on internet!

> >

> > You should be more responsible because some folks may actually trust

> your statemen as being real!

> >

> > What evidence do you have, or statistics for claiming that 'most'

> astrologers use AV for determining longevity? When and where and by

whom

> was such a survey conducted? :-?

> >

> > Awaiting your response with details about the survey and evidence to

> support your *claim*!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , Dhirendra Nath Misra

> <dhirendranathmisra wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Raj Bharadwajji & Other Senior Astrologers of this

group,

> I have seen that by most of the astrologers longivity is generally

> calculated from Astak Varga...

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