Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Misra ji, Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. regards Kulbir Bains. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > Respected RR_ jee, > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > Sun, in other words, when they are > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > planetary motion.'' > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > effect of retrogression.Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > the world who were not out of pocket. > With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani <jyotish_vani%40hotmail.com> > > > <%40> > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > Misra_jee, > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > equanimity! > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > Rohiniranjan > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > Taponishtha > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > your life. > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > you > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > knowledge.Every > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > it > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > <% > 40. com> > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > Misra > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > this > > > reply. > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > don't > > > know > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > not.But I > > > can > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > me > > > any > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > and > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > not > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > enlighten > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > Lalkitab > > > if > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > direct > > > > example. > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > <% > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > an > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > <bursar_99@ > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > the > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > effects > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > software > > > is > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > analysis > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > to > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > to > > > make > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > services)Dr. > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > Them " Planets > > > are > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > several > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > have > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > musicians > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > bring > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > Astakvarg is > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > with > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > but > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > their > > > own > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I noticed that you created a duplicate thread, perhaps to move away from your 'noisy' posting with ANGRY characters ;-) Anyway, here was the response I posted on your cleaned up reposting! Misra jee, Truth be told, I have observed a lot of 'sensitivity' and frustration and anger and what is known as 'short fuse' amongst astrologers and astrologer wannabees. Particularly those who come to astrology as a result of some trauma or illness or perhaps late in life. Speaking of retrogression, my reference should have been obvious. I was referring to older, superstitious and less open-minded times. Modrn societies have progressed out of those koopamanduka mentalities which was responsible for many social evils! Retrograde planets are not necessarily what I intended, although saturn is retrograde for quite sometime in virgo, now! :-) No personal remark is intended for anyone, let me clarify! Also, equanimity may have some association with planets but should not be literally equated with astrological planet in terms of property such as retrogression. That said, geocentric/topic vantage is what creates the Maya of astrology! Once the earth-based vantage is removed, even rahu ketu vanish, as I commented upon in a recent message. In other words, it pays to remain well-grounded in reality, namely 'feet placed on earth'. Those who remain so will not need valporate or stronger drugs! ;-) RR_, , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Respected RR_ jee, >                               Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the Sun, in other words, when they are > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of planetary motion.'' >                                   Like retrogression of planets ,If my equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the effect of retrogression.Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. >                                 Osho had the ticket for acceptance and respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of the world who were not out of pocket. > With thanks & regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > >  > Misra_jee, > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your equanimity! > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > Rohiniranjan > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty Taponishtha > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in your life. > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help you > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine knowledge.Every > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now it > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name Misra > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing this > > > reply. > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I don't > > > know > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or not.But I > > > can > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell me > > > any > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji and > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is not > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > enlighten > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in Lalkitab > > > if > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > direct > > > > example. > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. com><jyotish_ vani% > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in an > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into the > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the effects > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their software > > > is > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the analysis > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process to > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet to > > > make > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets > > > are > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at several > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you have > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > musicians > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > bring > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events Astakvarg is > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic with > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard but > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing their > > > own > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) RR_, , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Misra ji, > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > regards > Kulbir Bains. > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > planetary motion.'' > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > effect of retrogression.Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > ________________________________ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani <jyotish_vani%40hotmail.com> > > > > > <%40> > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > equanimity! > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > Taponishtha > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > your life. > > > With thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > you > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > Regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > knowledge.Every > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > it > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > <% > > 40. com> > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > Misra > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > this > > > > reply. > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > don't > > > > know > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > not.But I > > > > can > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > me > > > > any > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > and > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > not > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > enlighten > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > Lalkitab > > > > if > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > direct > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > an > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > the > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > effects > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > software > > > > is > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > analysis > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > to > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > to > > > > make > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > services)Dr. > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > Them " Planets > > > > are > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > several > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > have > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > musicians > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > bring > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > Astakvarg is > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > with > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > but > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > their > > > > own > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM  I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) RR_, , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > Misra ji, > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > regards > Kulbir Bains. > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > planetary motion.'' > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > effect of retrogression. Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ... <jyotish_vani% 40hotmail. com> > > > > > <% 40. com> > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > equanimity! > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > Taponishtha > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > your life. > > > With thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > you > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > Regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > knowledge.Every > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > it > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > <% > > 40. com> > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > Misra > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > this > > > > reply. > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > don't > > > > know > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > not.But I > > > > can > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > me > > > > any > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > and > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > not > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > enlighten > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > Lalkitab > > > > if > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > direct > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > an > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > the > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > effects > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > software > > > > is > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > analysis > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > to > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > to > > > > make > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > services)Dr. > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > Them " Planets > > > > are > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > several > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > have > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > musicians > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > bring > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > Astakvarg is > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > with > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > but > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > their > > > > own > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 what are Bt products? (Bac. thu...?) :-) , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM >  > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Misra ji, > > > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > > > regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > > > planetary motion.'' > > > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > > > effect of retrogression. Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ... <jyotish_vani% 40hotmail. com> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > > > equanimity! > > > > > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > > > Taponishtha > > > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > > > your life. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > > > you > > > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > > > knowledge.Every > > > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > > > it > > > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > > > Misra > > > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > > > this > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > > > don't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > > > not.But I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > > > me > > > > > > any > > > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > > > and > > > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > > > not > > > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > > > enlighten > > > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > > > Lalkitab > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > > > an > > > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > > > the > > > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > > > effects > > > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > > > software > > > > > > is > > > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > > > analysis > > > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > > > to > > > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > > > services)Dr. > > > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > > > Them " Planets > > > > > > are > > > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > > > several > > > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > > > have > > > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > > > musicians > > > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > > > Astakvarg is > > > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > > > with > > > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > > > but > > > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > > > their > > > > > > own > > > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 today's revolution is biotechnology commonly known as Bt.supposed to be different from the natural one but more helpful for human by way of genetic engg. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 4/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Thursday, April 1, 2010, 6:29 PM  what are Bt products? (Bac. thu...?) :-) , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Misra ji, > > > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > > > regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > > > planetary motion.'' > > > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > > > effect of retrogression. Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ... <jyotish_vani% 40hotmail. com> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > > > equanimity! > > > > > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > > > Taponishtha > > > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > > > your life. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > > > you > > > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > > > knowledge.Every > > > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > > > it > > > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > > > Misra > > > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > > > this > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > > > don't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > > > not.But I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > > > me > > > > > > any > > > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > > > and > > > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > > > not > > > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > > > enlighten > > > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > > > Lalkitab > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > > > an > > > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > > > the > > > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > > > effects > > > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > > > software > > > > > > is > > > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > > > analysis > > > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > > > to > > > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > > > services)Dr. > > > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > > > Them " Planets > > > > > > are > > > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > > > several > > > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > > > have > > > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > > > musicians > > > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > > > Astakvarg is > > > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > > > with > > > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > > > but > > > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > > > their > > > > > > own > > > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Prashant ji and Krishnan ji and other members, the below mail of krishnanji was in my spam folder. I have also noticed some mail assuming some filter problem in leading to this. I belive has certain inbuilt rules to recognize spams. one of them is chain forwards. if you notice the mails (not just krishnan ji's) going to spam, they are very long mails with lots of forwards and replies to replies. hence we should try to delete the bottom protions, trim it a little and then send it. this should address this problem appropriately. ________________________________ Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 Thu, 1 April, 2010 7:14:56 AM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity  Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM  I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) RR_, , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 For what it is worth, a friend sent an invitation to me to her son's wedding and it was a two sentence email! It was retrieved by me from spam box! So it has nothing to do with length or importance!! Keep checking your spam and junk mail boxes! Or else you may end up missing upon a lottery or inheritance! V and VIII and XI... , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10 wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji and Krishnan ji and other members, > > the below mail of krishnanji was in my spam folder. I have also noticed some mail assuming some filter problem in leading to this. > > I belive has certain inbuilt rules to recognize spams. one of them is chain forwards. > > if you notice the mails (not just krishnan ji's) going to spam, they are very long mails with lots of forwards and replies to replies. hence we should try to delete the bottom protions, trim it a little and then send it. > > this should address this problem appropriately. > > > > > ________________________________ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 7:14:56 AM > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > >  > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > >  > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > RR_, > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 as i said chain forwards and continuous replies are just one filtering method for . there are other inbuilt rules which would have incorporated. the wedding invite might fall under ony of those. why i mentioned what i mentioned was, last week i retrived a mail of Shri Jha from my spam and replied to it. surprisingly even my my mail went to spam. then when i wrote again, i trimmed the bottom portion. this time it went straight to inbox. no harm in trying this out while sending mails.. right? (but yes. do check spam folder before you delete it enmasse..suggestion well taken) regards santhosh  ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:41:41 AM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity  For what it is worth, a friend sent an invitation to me to her son's wedding and it was a two sentence email! It was retrieved by me from spam box! So it has nothing to do with length or importance!! Keep checking your spam and junk mail boxes! Or else you may end up missing upon a lottery or inheritance! V and VIII and XI... , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Prashant ji and Krishnan ji and other members, > > the below mail of krishnanji was in my spam folder. I have also noticed some mail assuming some filter problem in leading to this. > > I belive has certain inbuilt rules to recognize spams. one of them is chain forwards. > > if you notice the mails (not just krishnan ji's) going to spam, they are very long mails with lots of forwards and replies to replies. hence we should try to delete the bottom protions, trim it a little and then send it. > > this should address this problem appropriately. > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 7:14:56 AM > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > >  > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > >  > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > RR_, > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Santhosh jee, If you truly trust in the KINDNESS of UNIVERSE, all that is superfluous shall be removed from your focus and point of concentration! And if something important ends up in spam or junk, MA will make sure that you are led to that message! ;-) RR_, , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10 wrote: > > as i said chain forwards and continuous replies are just one filtering method for . there are other inbuilt rules which would have incorporated. the wedding invite might fall under ony of those. > > why i mentioned what i mentioned was, last week i retrived a mail of Shri Jha from my spam and replied to it. surprisingly even my my mail went to spam. then when i wrote again, i trimmed the bottom portion. this time it went straight to inbox. > > no harm in trying this out while sending mails.. right? (but yes. do check spam folder before you delete it enmasse..suggestion well taken) > > regards > santhosh > >  > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:41:41 AM > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > >  > For what it is worth, a friend sent an invitation to me to her son's wedding and it was a two sentence email! It was retrieved by me from spam box! > > So it has nothing to do with length or importance!! > > Keep checking your spam and junk mail boxes! Or else you may end up missing upon a lottery or inheritance! V and VIII and XI... > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji and Krishnan ji and other members, > > > > the below mail of krishnanji was in my spam folder. I have also noticed some mail assuming some filter problem in leading to this. > > > > I belive has certain inbuilt rules to recognize spams. one of them is chain forwards. > > > > if you notice the mails (not just krishnan ji's) going to spam, they are very long mails with lots of forwards and replies to replies. hence we should try to delete the bottom protions, trim it a little and then send it. > > > > this should address this problem appropriately. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> > > > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 7:14:56 AM > > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > > >  > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > > > >  > > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 rohini jee, nevertheless, no harm in trying this out while sending mails.. right? Santhosh ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:05:36 PM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity  Santhosh jee, If you truly trust in the KINDNESS of UNIVERSE, all that is superfluous shall be removed from your focus and point of concentration! And if something important ends up in spam or junk, MA will make sure that you are led to that message! ;-) RR_, , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > as i said chain forwards and continuous replies are just one filtering method for . there are other inbuilt rules which would have incorporated. the wedding invite might fall under ony of those. > > why i mentioned what i mentioned was, last week i retrived a mail of Shri Jha from my spam and replied to it. surprisingly even my my mail went to spam. then when i wrote again, i trimmed the bottom portion. this time it went straight to inbox. > > no harm in trying this out while sending mails.. right? (but yes. do check spam folder before you delete it enmasse..suggestion well taken) > > regards > santhosh > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:41:41 AM > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > >  > For what it is worth, a friend sent an invitation to me to her son's wedding and it was a two sentence email! It was retrieved by me from spam box! > > So it has nothing to do with length or importance!! > > Keep checking your spam and junk mail boxes! Or else you may end up missing upon a lottery or inheritance! V and VIII and XI... > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant ji and Krishnan ji and other members, > > > > the below mail of krishnanji was in my spam folder. I have also noticed some mail assuming some filter problem in leading to this. > > > > I belive has certain inbuilt rules to recognize spams. one of them is chain forwards. > > > > if you notice the mails (not just krishnan ji's) going to spam, they are very long mails with lots of forwards and replies to replies. hence we should try to delete the bottom protions, trim it a little and then send it. > > > > this should address this problem appropriately. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> > > > > Thu, 1 April, 2010 7:14:56 AM > > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > > >  > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > > > >  > > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Vattem Krishnan, B.T. is Bacteria Thurengensis. These days the seeds of BT cotton and Brinjal is marketed by Monsanto. Regards, Chandrashekhar - Vattem Krishnan Friday, April 02, 2010 11:33 AM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity today's revolution is biotechnology commonly known as Bt.supposed to be different from the natural one but more helpful for human by way of genetic engg. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 4/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Thursday, April 1, 2010, 6:29 PM what are Bt products? (Bac. thu...?) :-) , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Misra ji, > > > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > > > regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > > > planetary motion.'' > > > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > > > effect of retrogression. Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ... <jyotish_vani% 40hotmail. com> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > > > equanimity! > > > > > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > > > Taponishtha > > > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > > > your life. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > > > you > > > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > > > knowledge.Every > > > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > > > it > > > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > > > Misra > > > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > > > this > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > > > don't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > > > not.But I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > > > me > > > > > > any > > > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > > > and > > > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > > > not > > > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > > > enlighten > > > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > > > Lalkitab > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > > > an > > > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > > > the > > > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > > > effects > > > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > > > software > > > > > > is > > > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > > > analysis > > > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > > > to > > > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > > > services)Dr. > > > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > > > Them " Planets > > > > > > are > > > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > > > several > > > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > > > have > > > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > > > musicians > > > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > > > Astakvarg is > > > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > > > with > > > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > > > but > > > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > > > their > > > > > > own > > > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Sir, Is it not for the present the decision to promote Bt Brinjal was deferred by India as our farmers do not want other than natural ones? Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:39 PM  Dear Vattem Krishnan, B.T. is Bacteria Thurengensis. These days the seeds of BT cotton and Brinjal is marketed by Monsanto. Regards, Chandrashekhar - Vattem Krishnan Friday, April 02, 2010 11:33 AM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity today's revolution is biotechnology commonly known as Bt.supposed to be different from the natural one but more helpful for human by way of genetic engg. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 4/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Thursday, April 1, 2010, 6:29 PM what are Bt products? (Bac. thu...?) :-) , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Misra ji, > > > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > > > regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > > > planetary motion.'' > > > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > > > effect of retrogression. Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ... <jyotish_vani% 40hotmail. com> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > > > equanimity! > > > > > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > > > Taponishtha > > > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > > > your life. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > > > you > > > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > > > knowledge.Every > > > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > > > it > > > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > > > Misra > > > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > > > this > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > > > don't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > > > not.But I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > > > me > > > > > > any > > > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > > > and > > > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > > > not > > > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > > > enlighten > > > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > > > Lalkitab > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > > > an > > > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > > > the > > > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > > > effects > > > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > > > software > > > > > > is > > > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > > > analysis > > > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > > > to > > > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > > > services)Dr. > > > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > > > Them " Planets > > > > > > are > > > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > > > several > > > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > > > have > > > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > > > musicians > > > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > > > Astakvarg is > > > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > > > with > > > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > > > but > > > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > > > their > > > > > > own > > > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Or rather as Pawar could not push it through. I have never understood why BT is promoted as transgenic seeds at very (astronomical prices) when B.T. is available in sprayable form as " Delphin " and is very cheap. It is also interesting that in India BT cotton is sold at multiples of what it is sold in China. Perhaps to much is spent by Monsonto to " educate " the politicians. Chandrashekhar. - Vattem Krishnan Saturday, April 03, 2010 5:31 PM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Sir, Is it not for the present the decision to promote Bt Brinjal was deferred by India as our farmers do not want other than natural ones? Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Friday, April 2, 2010, 1:39 PM Dear Vattem Krishnan, B.T. is Bacteria Thurengensis. These days the seeds of BT cotton and Brinjal is marketed by Monsanto. Regards, Chandrashekhar - Vattem Krishnan Friday, April 02, 2010 11:33 AM Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity today's revolution is biotechnology commonly known as Bt.supposed to be different from the natural one but more helpful for human by way of genetic engg. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 4/1/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity Thursday, April 1, 2010, 6:29 PM what are Bt products? (Bac. thu...?) :-) , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Mighty be considered lesser 'evil " as it is only kanakar etc as it is just some inconvenience to remove while in the chewing process..But Bt products have all poisionous elements elements coated for looks ,freshness and to misguide on quality.ways of earning have changed with the arrival of chemiclas in day to day use. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Wed, 3/31/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: About Retrogression & Equanimity > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 6:40 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I have stopped eating rice from certain sources! Too many kankar patthar and other assorted contaminants in it! ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Misra ji, > > > Bhanumati me kunba joda -- kahin ki iint kahin ka roda. > > > regards > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RR_ jee, > > > > Retrogression in your own words-''. Planets > > > > that normally appear to move from Aries towards Taurus, at times, appear to > > > > move backwards, from Pisces towards Aquarius and so on. The Sun and Moon are > > > > immune to this apparent backward motion. The mean lunar nodes always move > > > > backwards, but the true nodes describe a bi-directional motion somewhat like > > > > other planets; though the nodes are mostly retrograde but at times travel > > > > forward - what is known as direct motion in astrology.The reason for this > > > > apparent retrograde movement of planets varies. For the inferior planets, > > > > Mercury and Venus, when they are between earth and the Sun, they appear to > > > > move retrograde; however, when they are on the other side of the sun (Sun is > > > > between the planet and earth), they appear direct. Superior planets, Mars, > > > > Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde when they are in signs opposite to the > > > > Sun, in other words, when they are > > > > just ahead of the earth and we are trying to catch up with them until such > > > > time when they are a bit behind the earth in the ever going orbital race. > > > > The remaining time they are in direct motion. It is perhaps an interesting > > > > astrological symbolic clue that the phenomenon of retrogression is not a > > > > real one, but a product of our perspective or vantage!Many views exist on > > > > the astrological implications of such apparently retrograde phases of > > > > planetary motion.'' > > > > Like retrogression of planets ,If my > > > > equanimity seems disturbed,it means it is not real state but it is due to > > > > vision effect or seriousness is lacking on your part and it is not the > > > > effect of retrogression. Certainly not you ,but few who are filled with > > > > hatred ,instead of gemstone needs some salt like Sodium Valporate (Valporic > > > > Acid) under direct supervision of psychiatrist for few months for peace of > > > > mind but they want to become Jyotishi firstly. > > > > Osho had the ticket for acceptance and > > > > respect in the name of religion or religiousness by most of the people of > > > > the world who were not out of pocket. > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ... <jyotish_vani% 40hotmail. com> > > > > > > > > > <% 40. com> > > > > Tue, March 30, 2010 5:41:50 AM > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > Misra_jee, > > > > > > > > I am a bit surprised that a SuSanskrita respected Jyotishi of a Brahmin > > > > lineage is getting disturbed so readily instead of demonstrating your > > > > equanimity! > > > > > > > > Assuming that there are perhaps only about a billion Hindus (in India and > > > > abroad, and not forgetting the other religions within India and the atheists > > > > etc) -- that the remaining 6 billion human beings and counting, despite the > > > > 'doom-sayers' need to visit Hindu Dhaams in order to get salvation? > > > > > > > > What kind of hypocrisy is this on an ecclectic, forum where religion or > > > > religiousness had never been a 'ticket' for acceptance or respect? > > > > > > > > Is some strong heavenly influence going RETROGRADE in 2010? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swamiji,The climax of Wisdom is called PRAGYA and I am trying > > > > hard to learn more and more thing from PRAGYA PURAN (Written by Ved Murty > > > > Taponishtha > > > > > Pandit Sri Ram Sharma Acharyaji a world known Gayatri Siddha Sadhak & > > > > Founder of World Gayatri Parivar,Shantikunj Haridwar,Akhand Jyoti Sansthan, > > > > Mathura, U.P, Brahmavarchas Sodh Sansthan,Haridwar, Dev Sanskriti > > > > Visvavidyalya Haridwar,Uttarakhan d)now wherein much has been writen about > > > > many Rishis and about their blessings and Rishi Ashtavakraji is also > > > > available therein.Please come to Shantikunj Haridwar,Uttarakhan d once in > > > > your life. > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 10:48:31 PM > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji, Go to Google search , type Astavakra there is more than > > > > > enough information than you can digest. BUT I am afraid it will not help > > > > you > > > > > in such jyotish(oops- astrology) rules that you are looking for. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Swami Kulvirji,So far I have been told Astavakraji was not > > > > > > physically handsome but he was bestowed with immense divine > > > > knowledge.Every > > > > > > thing is not available on net,so I thought it better to ask you and now > > > > it > > > > > > depends upon you to reject or accept the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Thanks & regards, > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > Kulbir Bains <lalkitabkb@ ... <lalkitabkb% 40gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 7:18:10 PM > > > > > > Re: Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhai Misra ji; Shbhan Allah; Aafreen; Sadke jaun aapke; Surname Name > > > > Misra > > > > > > and you ask about rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji. . if it is really > > > > > > helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with direct example. > > > > > > Atleast you should have searched about Ahshtvakra on net before firing > > > > this > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > LOTS of I don't know WHAT? > > > > > > Kulbir Bains. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Dhirendra Nath Misra < > > > > > > dhirendranathmisra@ ... <dhirendranathmisra %40ymail. com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji ,Vattemji & Kulbirji,Thanks for guidance.Really I > > > > don't > > > > > > know > > > > > > > whether Krushnaji has developed any software for his system or > > > > not.But I > > > > > > can > > > > > > > infer that perhaps at present respected RRji is not pleased to tell > > > > me > > > > > > any > > > > > > > thing more about KAS.So at present I may hope from respected Vattemji > > > > and > > > > > > > further request to enlighten me about KAS, if discussion on KAS is > > > > not > > > > > > > against the group policy here.Respected Kulvirji is requested to > > > > > > enlighten > > > > > > > me with rules framed by Rishi Ashtavakraji or rules available in > > > > Lalkitab > > > > > > if > > > > > > > it is really helpful in pin pointing timing of life events,but with > > > > > > direct > > > > > > > example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...<jyotish_ vani%40hotmail. > > > > com><jyotish_ vani% > > > > > > 40hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > 40. com><Jyotish_ Remedies% > > > > > > 40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, March 27, 2010 9:24:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dada, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He (DN Mishrajee!) is looking for examples and evidence presented in > > > > an > > > > > > > internet message or few! Do you have any? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > > > <bursar_99@ > > > > > > > ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of KAS for nearly a decade,i tried my best to fit into > > > > the > > > > > > > group for understanding KAS analysis. > > > > > > > > In their syatem what I find is singlinging out planets for the > > > > effects > > > > > > > and is part of their rules in the process of anlysis.Also their > > > > software > > > > > > is > > > > > > > veru unique in determining the ascendant. > > > > > > > > Though basic Parashar principles and system was accepted,the > > > > analysis > > > > > > > through KAS seems to be more systematised and is a close end process > > > > to > > > > > > > understand timing of events.So I follow them invariably even now.Yet > > > > to > > > > > > make > > > > > > > a conscious effort for practical purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > > > services)Dr. > > > > > > > B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control > > > > Them " Planets > > > > > > are > > > > > > > neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/26/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Re: About efficacy of Ashtakvarg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, March 26, 2010, 11:33 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Krushna has a software too that he announced here or at > > > > several > > > > > > > places during the last few years and several times if I recall! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you learn to listen to your personal melody ;-) which you > > > > have > > > > > > > tried to, from time to time, rather than blame other singers :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard Ravishankar jee criticising other singers or > > > > > > musicians > > > > > > > or gharanaas! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, he has done his best to bring the WORLD together > > > > > > > through his East-West Fusion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a wonderful treasurehouse of beautiful music he has managed to > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > to us earthlings from Heavenly Domains! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like Mozart! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji,Vattemji, Sureshji, M Tripathiji,R. Bharadwajji > > > > > > > ,Kulbirji,Tanvirji & Others, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    It is said that for pin pointing timing of events > > > > Astakvarg is > > > > > > > very effective tool.I request you all to enlighten me on this topic > > > > with > > > > > > > few examples.KAS (Krushna Astakvarg System) is working in this regard > > > > but > > > > > > > they do not entertain personal query or request rather they sing > > > > their > > > > > > own > > > > > > > songs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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