Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Chandrashekhar ji, I am so happy to see that you moved the level of this " Who wrote what... " thread to 'What got written and its worth!'. Speaking for myself, when ancient documents are concerned, it is best not to worry about who wrote but focus on the content to see if the proof of the pudding exists in the eating! A very pragmatic European saying that was popularized in Jyotish by Dr. Raman. I think that there is a certain amount of 'futility' in this notion that is NOT new but decades old that if we just could figure out the moment of conception, then our predictions would be all perfect! In the meantime we have tried to tweak ayanamsha and house divisions and many other radical approaches that were adopted, declined, left on the roadside and so on and on... Finding the moment of conception is like 'chasing a mirage'! I would rather go with the obvious! The moment of birth when the entity begins to live as an independent INDIVIDUAL! Better fine-tune the OBVIOUS (conceptus), rather than chase a concept or conception in this case, I say! Regards, Rohiniranjan , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > Chandrashekhar. > - > Prashant Kumar G B > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > thanks > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > ________________________________ > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar > - > Prashant Kumar G B > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > Dear Misra ji > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > best wishes > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > With regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > ashsam73 <kas > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > Dear Sir, > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > To each his/her own. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > Please enlighten me. > > With regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > >  > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rules known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > >  > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > Cusp,RL,         NL,      SL,    SSlord > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > >  > > > Planets,      NL,        SL,     SSlord > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > >  > > >  > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > With thanks & regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Rohini Ranjan, I entirely agree with what you say. The funny part is that even to this day there are divergent views on what is supposed to be the time of birth and here we want to back calculate the conception time!!! The proof of pudding is in eating concept is in existence from before the revered B.V. Raman. Varaha Mihira also said the same and there are many such shlokas in Daivagya Ranjan. You may laugh at this, and you may even think me as being very rude, but when my students (who have already done M.A. In Jyotish) ask me about how to read varga charts, I ask them how far are they certain about the % accuracy of their interpretation of Lagna chart. That sets them thinking about the time cycles involved in rising lagna of varga charts and soon they realize what I am pointing at. Then I tell them what Narada has written in Narada samhita that " the time of birth is equal to the time taken to pierce a lotus leave by a sharp needle and when even Brahma does not know that time what of human beings " . Soon after they find it is enough to have Lagna and Navamsha chart to be able to predict with a fair amount of accuracy, if the querent is sincere in his queries. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - rohinicrystal Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM BRAVO Chandrashekhar ji! Dear Chandrashekhar ji, I am so happy to see that you moved the level of this " Who wrote what... " thread to 'What got written and its worth!'. Speaking for myself, when ancient documents are concerned, it is best not to worry about who wrote but focus on the content to see if the proof of the pudding exists in the eating! A very pragmatic European saying that was popularized in Jyotish by Dr. Raman. I think that there is a certain amount of 'futility' in this notion that is NOT new but decades old that if we just could figure out the moment of conception, then our predictions would be all perfect! In the meantime we have tried to tweak ayanamsha and house divisions and many other radical approaches that were adopted, declined, left on the roadside and so on and on... Finding the moment of conception is like 'chasing a mirage'! I would rather go with the obvious! The moment of birth when the entity begins to live as an independent INDIVIDUAL! Better fine-tune the OBVIOUS (conceptus), rather than chase a concept or conception in this case, I say! Regards, Rohiniranjan , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > Chandrashekhar. > - > Prashant Kumar G B > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > thanks > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > ________________________________ > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar > - > Prashant Kumar G B > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > Dear Misra ji > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > best wishes > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > With regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > ashsam73 <kas > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > Dear Sir, > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > To each his/her own. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > Please enlighten me. > > With regards,Ã, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > Ã, > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > Ã, > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rulesÃ, known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > > Ã, > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > Cusp,RL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > > Ã, > > > Planets,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > > Ã, > > > Ã, > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > With thanks & regards,Ã, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Chandrashekhar jee, Not rude at all but very rightly pragmatic! A lot of details are built into the examination of the kshetra, as we all know (derivatized houses, padas, dispositors, bhavat bhavam, ashtakavarga, sambandhas and drishtis etc etc). A lot can emerge from a judicious use of those. However, those who are always sawaar on the bullet train of McJyotish may rather wish to hop and jump all over the vargas and may even spawn newer ones where none existed earlier. The proverb, " the proof of the pudding... " I believe goes back to 1300s in old english and then was used in a form closer to the current version in 1600s by Cervantes (Don Quixote), but certainly the 'concept' is much older than its formulation in English, old and new. Regards, Rohiniranjan , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > I entirely agree with what you say. The funny part is that even to this day there are divergent views on what is supposed to be the time of birth and here we want to back calculate the conception time!!! > > The proof of pudding is in eating concept is in existence from before the revered B.V. Raman. Varaha Mihira also said the same and there are many such shlokas in Daivagya Ranjan. > > You may laugh at this, and you may even think me as being very rude, but when my students (who have already done M.A. In Jyotish) ask me about how to read varga charts, I ask them how far are they certain about the % accuracy of their interpretation of Lagna chart. That sets them thinking about the time cycles involved in rising lagna of varga charts and soon they realize what I am pointing at. Then I tell them what Narada has written in Narada samhita that " the time of birth is equal to the time taken to pierce a lotus leave by a sharp needle and when even Brahma does not know that time what of human beings " . Soon after they find it is enough to have Lagna and Navamsha chart to be able to predict with a fair amount of accuracy, if the querent is sincere in his queries. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > > - > rohinicrystal > > Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM > BRAVO Chandrashekhar ji! > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > I am so happy to see that you moved the level of this " Who wrote what... " thread to 'What got written and its worth!'. > > Speaking for myself, when ancient documents are concerned, it is best not to worry about who wrote but focus on the content to see if the proof of the pudding exists in the eating! A very pragmatic European saying that was popularized in Jyotish by Dr. Raman. > > I think that there is a certain amount of 'futility' in this notion that is NOT new but decades old that if we just could figure out the moment of conception, then our predictions would be all perfect! In the meantime we have tried to tweak ayanamsha and house divisions and many other radical approaches that were adopted, declined, left on the roadside and so on and on... > > Finding the moment of conception is like 'chasing a mirage'! I would rather go with the obvious! The moment of birth when the entity begins to live as an independent INDIVIDUAL! > > Better fine-tune the OBVIOUS (conceptus), rather than chase a concept or conception in this case, I say! > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > > > thanks > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > ________________________________ > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@> > > > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar > > - > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > Dear Misra ji > > > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > > > best wishes > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > > With regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > > > To each his/her own. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > Please enlighten me. > > > With regards,Ã, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > Ã, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > Ã, > > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rulesÃ, known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > > > Ã, > > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > > Cusp,RL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > > > Ã, > > > > Planets,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > > > Ã, > > > > Ã, > > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > > With thanks & regards,Ã, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Chandrashekhar jee, You wrote : <<<<< " when my students (who have already done M.A. In Jyotish) ask me about how to read varga charts, I ask them how far are they certain about the % accuracy of their interpretation of Lagna chart. That sets them thinking about the time cycles involved in rising lagna of varga charts and soon they realize what I am pointing at. Then I tell them what Narada has written in Narada samhita that " the time of birth is equal to the time taken to pierce a lotus leave by a sharp needle and when even Brahma does not know that time what of human beings " . Soon after they find it is enough to have Lagna and Navamsha chart to be able to predict with a fair amount of accuracy, if the querent is sincere in his queries. " >>>>> Inaccuracy in birthtime is not the sole reason of problems in vargas. Sometimes, I take the help of varga charts also in birth-time rectification, but most of the time analysis of a handful of important good or bad events by means of Vimshottari is enough for birth-time rectification. I never wanted to write about my views on KCD's AD. I told you again and again that RCD had cited wrong number of verses ( " 56 stanzas " instead of 58 verses) belonging to KCD's AD, hence I tried to induce him to read the original before citing, and for this reason I said KCD had no AD. But you missed that my messages also contained that BPHS has a separate chapter on KCD. The first chapter of my sofyware, which you have never tested, says my method is 100% based on Paaraashari. I am sorry that you carried the discussion towards wrong direction. I was not acquainted with RCS. Now I think his wrong citation was a slip of memory. He later said he has read a lot. Had he simply said that he had read KCD's AD chapter, the discussion would have been carried in another tone. I was not seriuously interested in discussiong a topic with a person who has not read BPHS (I wrongly thought so, misled by RCS's wrong citation). Now, some internet scholars are trying to deduce a wrong sandhi-vichchheda of Jaimini's 2.3.1-2 for proving aspects in vargas (Adarsha vs Darsha). My students are teaching Jyotisha in PG departments of recognized Sanskrit universities ; they know only a master of Sanskrit grammar is allowed to give his/her own opinion on grammatical aspects, others can only quote the masters. All varga charts are absolutely accursate if drawn with Suryasiddhantic Ganita. It is a Maayaa of God that Suryasiddhantic Ganita is discarded without being tested. Some internet astrologers also tried to project that Suryasiddhantic Ganita is my invention or something like that. -VJ ============================== === , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Chandrashekhar jee, > > Not rude at all but very rightly pragmatic! A lot of details are built into the examination of the kshetra, as we all know (derivatized houses, padas, dispositors, bhavat bhavam, ashtakavarga, sambandhas and drishtis etc etc). A lot can emerge from a judicious use of those. However, those who are always sawaar on the bullet train of McJyotish may rather wish to hop and jump all over the vargas and may even spawn newer ones where none existed earlier. > > The proverb, " the proof of the pudding... " I believe goes back to 1300s in old english and then was used in a form closer to the current version in 1600s by Cervantes (Don Quixote), but certainly the 'concept' is much older than its formulation in English, old and new. > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Chandrashekhar " sharma.chandrashekhar@ wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > > > I entirely agree with what you say. The funny part is that even to this day there are divergent views on what is supposed to be the time of birth and here we want to back calculate the conception time!!! > > > > The proof of pudding is in eating concept is in existence from before the revered B.V. Raman. Varaha Mihira also said the same and there are many such shlokas in Daivagya Ranjan. > > > > You may laugh at this, and you may even think me as being very rude, but when my students (who have already done M.A. In Jyotish) ask me about how to read varga charts, I ask them how far are they certain about the % accuracy of their interpretation of Lagna chart. That sets them thinking about the time cycles involved in rising lagna of varga charts and soon they realize what I am pointing at. Then I tell them what Narada has written in Narada samhita that " the time of birth is equal to the time taken to pierce a lotus leave by a sharp needle and when even Brahma does not know that time what of human beings " . Soon after they find it is enough to have Lagna and Navamsha chart to be able to predict with a fair amount of accuracy, if the querent is sincere in his queries. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > - > > rohinicrystal > > > > Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM > > BRAVO Chandrashekhar ji! > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > > > I am so happy to see that you moved the level of this " Who wrote what... " thread to 'What got written and its worth!'. > > > > Speaking for myself, when ancient documents are concerned, it is best not to worry about who wrote but focus on the content to see if the proof of the pudding exists in the eating! A very pragmatic European saying that was popularized in Jyotish by Dr. Raman. > > > > I think that there is a certain amount of 'futility' in this notion that is NOT new but decades old that if we just could figure out the moment of conception, then our predictions would be all perfect! In the meantime we have tried to tweak ayanamsha and house divisions and many other radical approaches that were adopted, declined, left on the roadside and so on and on... > > > > Finding the moment of conception is like 'chasing a mirage'! I would rather go with the obvious! The moment of birth when the entity begins to live as an independent INDIVIDUAL! > > > > Better fine-tune the OBVIOUS (conceptus), rather than chase a concept or conception in this case, I say! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > > > > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > > > > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > - > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > > > > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > > > > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > > > > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > /database?method=reportRow\ s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@> > > > > > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Chandrashekhar > > > - > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > > > Dear Misra ji > > > > > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > > > > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > > > > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > > > With regards, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > > > > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > > > > > To each his/her own. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > With regards,Ã, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > Ã, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > Ã, > > > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rulesÃ, known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > > > > Ã, > > > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > > > Cusp,RL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > > > > Ã, > > > > > Planets,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > > > > Ã, > > > > > Ã, > > > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > > > With thanks & regards,Ã, > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Dear Rohini Ranjan, Thank you for understanding me. I liked the part " those who are always sawaar on the bullet train of McJyotish may rather wish to hop and jump all over the vargas and may even spawn newer ones where none existed earlier. " of your mail. Take care, Chandrashekhar - rohinicrystal Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:11 AM Re: BRAVO Chandrashekhar ji! Chandrashekhar jee, Not rude at all but very rightly pragmatic! A lot of details are built into the examination of the kshetra, as we all know (derivatized houses, padas, dispositors, bhavat bhavam, ashtakavarga, sambandhas and drishtis etc etc). A lot can emerge from a judicious use of those. However, those who are always sawaar on the bullet train of McJyotish may rather wish to hop and jump all over the vargas and may even spawn newer ones where none existed earlier. The proverb, " the proof of the pudding... " I believe goes back to 1300s in old english and then was used in a form closer to the current version in 1600s by Cervantes (Don Quixote), but certainly the 'concept' is much older than its formulation in English, old and new. Regards, Rohiniranjan , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan, > > I entirely agree with what you say. The funny part is that even to this day there are divergent views on what is supposed to be the time of birth and here we want to back calculate the conception time!!! > > The proof of pudding is in eating concept is in existence from before the revered B.V. Raman. Varaha Mihira also said the same and there are many such shlokas in Daivagya Ranjan. > > You may laugh at this, and you may even think me as being very rude, but when my students (who have already done M.A. In Jyotish) ask me about how to read varga charts, I ask them how far are they certain about the % accuracy of their interpretation of Lagna chart. That sets them thinking about the time cycles involved in rising lagna of varga charts and soon they realize what I am pointing at. Then I tell them what Narada has written in Narada samhita that " the time of birth is equal to the time taken to pierce a lotus leave by a sharp needle and when even Brahma does not know that time what of human beings " . Soon after they find it is enough to have Lagna and Navamsha chart to be able to predict with a fair amount of accuracy, if the querent is sincere in his queries. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > > > - > rohinicrystal > > Friday, April 02, 2010 7:55 AM > BRAVO Chandrashekhar ji! > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji, > > I am so happy to see that you moved the level of this " Who wrote what... " thread to 'What got written and its worth!'. > > Speaking for myself, when ancient documents are concerned, it is best not to worry about who wrote but focus on the content to see if the proof of the pudding exists in the eating! A very pragmatic European saying that was popularized in Jyotish by Dr. Raman. > > I think that there is a certain amount of 'futility' in this notion that is NOT new but decades old that if we just could figure out the moment of conception, then our predictions would be all perfect! In the meantime we have tried to tweak ayanamsha and house divisions and many other radical approaches that were adopted, declined, left on the roadside and so on and on... > > Finding the moment of conception is like 'chasing a mirage'! I would rather go with the obvious! The moment of birth when the entity begins to live as an independent INDIVIDUAL! > > Better fine-tune the OBVIOUS (conceptus), rather than chase a concept or conception in this case, I say! > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > > > thanks > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 > > > > ________________________________ > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar@> > > > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar > > - > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > Dear Misra ji > > > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > > > best wishes > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > > With regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > > > To each his/her own. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > Please enlighten me. > > > With regards,Ã, > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > Ã, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > Ã, > > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rulesÃ, known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > > > Ã, > > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > > Cusp,RL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > > > Ã, > > > > Planets,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, NL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SL,Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, SSlord > > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > > > Ã, > > > > Ã, > > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > > With thanks & regards,Ã, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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