Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 My Dear Rohini Jee, there you go taking your usual path....you misread my mail...u accuse me of saying things in my mail which i never said...i request you please read my mail again and see if you can understand it....you are not prepared to do the hard work...want to be spoon fed....and tell me to do serious jyothish...nice escapism my dear chetta..yes chetta in malayalm is big brother.. i will conclude my case with two statements my honour. 1. you said i wasnt making sense..yet you drew some strange, unsaid conclusions from my mail...how did you? 2. a very senior and respected member, krishnan ji, also read my mail and he didn't feel that i was not making sense...rather he said..i quote.. " Shri Santosh Ji's information is very useful " . hmmm interesting isnt it.....so the jury can decide who used tactics... everyday is not a sunday Rohini Chetta... still regards santhosh  ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:41:53 PM Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4  I did, chotta bhai and you were not making much sense there either hence I got on your case, knowing that you will end up calling me Chetta (in Malayalam, right?). Do some serious jyotish first for a while and then use these 'tactics' that you may have copied from others. Until then ... well you know who you are! ;-) Rohiniranjan , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > //Now that we are properly introduced, what exactly was the point you were trying to 'make', dear brother?// > > naaah...no spoon feeding.. remember?.absolutel y not...you have to do your hard work...do some searching of mails..or go to the bottom of this mail...read. .re-read. ..use a dictionery to correct sirnames to surname etc...and then we can discuss.. > > till then.....:-) > > Santhosh Panicker > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:22:52 PM > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > >  > derogatory not derrogatory, and surname not sirname although the family name is related to SIRE or Father -- since you addressed me as Chetta and I shall accept your meaning! I feel honoured and I am sure you can withstand a bit of Chetta-humour :-) > > Now that we are properly introduced, what exactly was the point you were trying to 'make', dear brother? > > Rohiniranjan > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > Santhosh jee's name is santhosh kumar sadasiva (real as per birth certificate) i use my family sirname now santhosh panicker. > > > > that was asked in proper english and i hope you can understand my proper and simple english too Rohini Chetta > > > > Regards > > santhosh > > PS: Now please dont take offence to the word Chetta and get upset. it is used in respect for an elder brother in our part of the world. in other words = your dada. it is derrogatory to use the word dada here. > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:04:21 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > >  > > And when will you tell us your real name Santhosh jee :-) > > > > Or am I not writing in your kind of English? ;-) > > > > RR_, > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Rohini chetta, > > > > > > I wasnt upset with you, i am not upset with and i will not be upset with you.... again and again you are misunderstanding mails in simple english which leads you to arrive at such wrong conclusions like i am upset. > > > > > > you have asked me several questions in your previous email... but how do i reply to them if am not sure that you can understand english... > > > > > > so please...i request you to go back to my earlier mail...read it with an unperturbed mind...use a dictionary if necessary and once i am sure you have understood i will answer further questions... > > > > > > further, i feel spoon feeding wouldnt be the right approach..you should do some hard work of your own too...dont you agree my dear chetta.. > > > > > > Regards again > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 2:12:23 PM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > >  > > > You are getting upset and that is contrary to your name that you use here: Santosh! Contentment does not get upset so readily and begin to attack others! What did you mean by plain vs flowery, for instance ;-) > > > > > > What is this 'proper research' that you now throw at us great unwashed? > > > > > > Please define this " proper research " that now you use as the Golden Parameter! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > My Dear Rohini Jee, > > > > > > > > Thats exactly why i said i wrote only plain english which was not in any flowery language. I just cannot understand why you cannot understand what i wrote. > > > > > > > > how did you interpret from my mail that i meant that whats written millions and thousands of year is TRUE??? i did not even write about that issue. but if you want to know then what i believe is something written yesterday or today after proper research could be more more true than something written 100 or 1000 years before. I am saying this now...not in my previous email.. > > > > > > > > for heaven's sake please read and re-read my mail till you understand or please stop replying with out of context issues. > > > > > > > > Regards again > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 1:52:18 PM > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > And you misunderstood what I wrote or meant, because you were too absorbed in 'what Santhosh wrote!' hence my request to read it impersonally! > > > > > > > > Just because something was written thousands of years ago does not automatically render it more TRUE or for that matter even relevant! :-) > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you misunderstood and misread completely.. . i did not place the two personalities against each other as indicated by " vs " > > > > > > > > > > Please try to re-read and understand properly. it was plain english. > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:57:59 PM > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > It is not just about sanketnidhi and ramdayalu vs nelakanta as you write in your postings! It goes deeper and wider!! > > > > > > > > > > Please read 73555 > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I did re-read as non-santhosh. > > > > > > //since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else.// > > > > > > > > > > > > found nothing wrong with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > can you please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:09:02 PM > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  > > > > > > read your own message AGAIN, Santhosh jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > Not as Santhosh but 'someone else' who does not know who Santhosh is, for a change! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why :-) elaborate please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:56:11 AM > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\ €¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\ ‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\ Å¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Well -- you could have stopped at: > > > > > > > <<dont have to read too much into it.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > //Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont have to read too much into it. > > > > > > > > since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now we had a mention in this forum abt sanketanidhi by nelakanta. can somene who has it try to period it. what if that was an earlier composition and shri ramadayalu had based his composition on that. otherwise this particular composition by shri dayalu does not mention on which text he has based his writings. obviously he has written it for the benifit for his nephew. so like a master giving notes to his student it was written and handed over and then it would have come down from one generation to another. (like any other classic). Hence very clearly, Shri ramadayalu had his own guru and his own literature on which he based his writings. > > > > > > > > i hope i was elaborate enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\ ¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÆ\ ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\ ¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\ ¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÆ\ ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\ ¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:33:09 AM > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\ ¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÆ\ ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\ ¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Thanks Santhosh jee for responding when challenged! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanketanidhi means the " treasure of indications " and it was written by Shri ramadayalu for the benifit of his brother's (vazir chandra's) son Ghasi Ram in the year 1860AD. Pretty modern composition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃâ€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'\ Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\ ’…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ’†'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…ÃÆ\ ’‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÃ\ †'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:06:40 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃâ€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'\ Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\ ’…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ’†'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…ÃÆ\ ’‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÃ\ †'‚ > > > > > > > > > And yet surprisingly in this thread no one touched upon the obvious! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does SANKET mean? > > > > > > > > > And What does NIDHI mean...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Do some serious jyotish, Chotta bhai before you get your knickers all in a twist! :-) What happened to your blackberry? AH yes, it is not a Sunday as you told me already ;-) Show me your serious jyotish if you want my serious attention! Until then, I remain Your loving Chetta! Rohiniranjan , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10 wrote: > > My Dear Rohini Jee, > there you go taking your usual path....you misread my mail...u accuse me of saying things in my mail which i never said...i request you please read my mail again and see if you can understand it....you are not prepared to do the hard work...want to be spoon fed....and tell me to do serious jyothish...nice escapism my dear chetta..yes chetta in malayalm is big brother.. > > i will conclude my case with two statements my honour. > > 1. you said i wasnt making sense..yet you drew some strange, unsaid conclusions from my mail...how did you? > 2. a very senior and respected member, krishnan ji, also read my mail and he didn't feel that i was not making sense...rather he said..i quote.. " Shri Santosh Ji's information is very useful " . > > hmmm interesting isnt it.....so the jury can decide who used tactics... > > everyday is not a sunday Rohini Chetta... > > still regards > santhosh > > >  > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:41:53 PM > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > >  > I did, chotta bhai and you were not making much sense there either hence I got on your case, knowing that you will end up calling me Chetta (in Malayalam, right?). > > Do some serious jyotish first for a while and then use these 'tactics' that you may have copied from others. > > Until then ... well you know who you are! ;-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > //Now that we are properly introduced, what exactly was the point you were trying to 'make', dear brother?// > > > > naaah...no spoon feeding.. remember?.absolutel y not...you have to do your hard work...do some searching of mails..or go to the bottom of this mail...read. .re-read. ..use a dictionery to correct sirnames to surname etc...and then we can discuss.. > > > > till then.....:-) > > > > Santhosh Panicker > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:22:52 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > >  > > derogatory not derrogatory, and surname not sirname although the family name is related to SIRE or Father -- since you addressed me as Chetta and I shall accept your meaning! I feel honoured and I am sure you can withstand a bit of Chetta-humour :-) > > > > Now that we are properly introduced, what exactly was the point you were trying to 'make', dear brother? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Santhosh jee's name is santhosh kumar sadasiva (real as per birth certificate) i use my family sirname now santhosh panicker. > > > > > > that was asked in proper english and i hope you can understand my proper and simple english too Rohini Chetta > > > > > > Regards > > > santhosh > > > PS: Now please dont take offence to the word Chetta and get upset. it is used in respect for an elder brother in our part of the world. in other words = your dada. it is derrogatory to use the word dada here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:04:21 PM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > >  > > > And when will you tell us your real name Santhosh jee :-) > > > > > > Or am I not writing in your kind of English? ;-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > My Dear Rohini chetta, > > > > > > > > I wasnt upset with you, i am not upset with and i will not be upset with you.... again and again you are misunderstanding mails in simple english which leads you to arrive at such wrong conclusions like i am upset. > > > > > > > > you have asked me several questions in your previous email... but how do i reply to them if am not sure that you can understand english... > > > > > > > > so please...i request you to go back to my earlier mail...read it with an unperturbed mind...use a dictionary if necessary and once i am sure you have understood i will answer further questions... > > > > > > > > further, i feel spoon feeding wouldnt be the right approach..you should do some hard work of your own too...dont you agree my dear chetta.. > > > > > > > > Regards again > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 2:12:23 PM > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > You are getting upset and that is contrary to your name that you use here: Santosh! Contentment does not get upset so readily and begin to attack others! What did you mean by plain vs flowery, for instance ;-) > > > > > > > > What is this 'proper research' that you now throw at us great unwashed? > > > > > > > > Please define this " proper research " that now you use as the Golden Parameter! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Rohini Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Thats exactly why i said i wrote only plain english which was not in any flowery language. I just cannot understand why you cannot understand what i wrote. > > > > > > > > > > how did you interpret from my mail that i meant that whats written millions and thousands of year is TRUE??? i did not even write about that issue. but if you want to know then what i believe is something written yesterday or today after proper research could be more more true than something written 100 or 1000 years before. I am saying this now...not in my previous email.. > > > > > > > > > > for heaven's sake please read and re-read my mail till you understand or please stop replying with out of context issues. > > > > > > > > > > Regards again > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 1:52:18 PM > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > And you misunderstood what I wrote or meant, because you were too absorbed in 'what Santhosh wrote!' hence my request to read it impersonally! > > > > > > > > > > Just because something was written thousands of years ago does not automatically render it more TRUE or for that matter even relevant! :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you misunderstood and misread completely.. . i did not place the two personalities against each other as indicated by " vs " > > > > > > > > > > > > Please try to re-read and understand properly. it was plain english. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:57:59 PM > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > It is not just about sanketnidhi and ramdayalu vs nelakanta as you write in your postings! It goes deeper and wider!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read 73555 > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did re-read as non-santhosh. > > > > > > > //since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > found nothing wrong with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can you please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:09:02 PM > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > read your own message AGAIN, Santhosh jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not as Santhosh but 'someone else' who does not know who Santhosh is, for a change! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why :-) elaborate please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:56:11 AM > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢\ ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬\ Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Well -- you could have stopped at: > > > > > > > > <<dont have to read too much into it.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > //Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont have to read too much into it. > > > > > > > > > since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now we had a mention in this forum abt sanketanidhi by nelakanta. can somene who has it try to period it. what if that was an earlier composition and shri ramadayalu had based his composition on that. otherwise this particular composition by shri dayalu does not mention on which text he has based his writings. obviously he has written it for the benifit for his nephew. so like a master giving notes to his student it was written and handed over and then it would have come down from one generation to another. (like any other classic). Hence very clearly, Shri ramadayalu had his own guru and his own literature on which he based his writings. > > > > > > > > > i hope i was elaborate enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ †'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â\ ¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ †'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â\ ¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:33:09 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂÂ\ ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ\ '¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ †'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â€Â\ ¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Thanks Santhosh jee for responding when challenged! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanketanidhi means the " treasure of indications " and it was written by Shri ramadayalu for the benifit of his brother's (vazir chandra's) son Ghasi Ram in the year 1860AD. Pretty modern composition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃ\ ‚¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ\ € 'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'â€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'\ Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ' > Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ\ '…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢\ €¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ\ '‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:06:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃ\ ‚¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'\ Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ\ € 'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'â€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'\ Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ' > Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ\ '…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢\ €¦ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ\ '‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > And yet surprisingly in this thread no one touched upon the obvious! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does SANKET mean? > > > > > > > > > > And What does NIDHI mean...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 :-) jury is watching your tactics Rohini Chetta :-) ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Fri, 2 April, 2010 4:03:05 PM Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4  Do some serious jyotish, Chotta bhai before you get your knickers all in a twist! :-) What happened to your blackberry? AH yes, it is not a Sunday as you told me already ;-) Show me your serious jyotish if you want my serious attention! Until then, I remain Your loving Chetta! Rohiniranjan , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > My Dear Rohini Jee, > there you go taking your usual path....you misread my mail...u accuse me of saying things in my mail which i never said...i request you please read my mail again and see if you can understand it....you are not prepared to do the hard work...want to be spoon fed....and tell me to do serious jyothish...nice escapism my dear chetta..yes chetta in malayalm is big brother.. > > i will conclude my case with two statements my honour. > > 1. you said i wasnt making sense..yet you drew some strange, unsaid conclusions from my mail...how did you? > 2. a very senior and respected member, krishnan ji, also read my mail and he didn't feel that i was not making sense...rather he said..i quote.. " Shri Santosh Ji's information is very useful " . > > hmmm interesting isnt it.....so the jury can decide who used tactics... > > everyday is not a sunday Rohini Chetta... > > still regards > santhosh > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:41:53 PM > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > >  > I did, chotta bhai and you were not making much sense there either hence I got on your case, knowing that you will end up calling me Chetta (in Malayalam, right?). > > Do some serious jyotish first for a while and then use these 'tactics' that you may have copied from others. > > Until then ... well you know who you are! ;-) > > Rohiniranjan > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > //Now that we are properly introduced, what exactly was the point you were trying to 'make', dear brother?// > > > > naaah...no spoon feeding.. remember?.absolutel y not...you have to do your hard work...do some searching of mails..or go to the bottom of this mail...read. .re-read. ..use a dictionery to correct sirnames to surname etc...and then we can discuss.. > > > > till then.....:-) > > > > Santhosh Panicker > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:22:52 PM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > >  > > derogatory not derrogatory, and surname not sirname although the family name is related to SIRE or Father -- since you addressed me as Chetta and I shall accept your meaning! I feel honoured and I am sure you can withstand a bit of Chetta-humour :-) > > > > Now that we are properly introduced, what exactly was the point you were trying to 'make', dear brother? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Santhosh jee's name is santhosh kumar sadasiva (real as per birth certificate) i use my family sirname now santhosh panicker. > > > > > > that was asked in proper english and i hope you can understand my proper and simple english too Rohini Chetta > > > > > > Regards > > > santhosh > > > PS: Now please dont take offence to the word Chetta and get upset. it is used in respect for an elder brother in our part of the world. in other words = your dada. it is derrogatory to use the word dada here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 3:04:21 PM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > >  > > > And when will you tell us your real name Santhosh jee :-) > > > > > > Or am I not writing in your kind of English? ;-) > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > My Dear Rohini chetta, > > > > > > > > I wasnt upset with you, i am not upset with and i will not be upset with you.... again and again you are misunderstanding mails in simple english which leads you to arrive at such wrong conclusions like i am upset. > > > > > > > > you have asked me several questions in your previous email... but how do i reply to them if am not sure that you can understand english... > > > > > > > > so please...i request you to go back to my earlier mail...read it with an unperturbed mind...use a dictionary if necessary and once i am sure you have understood i will answer further questions... > > > > > > > > further, i feel spoon feeding wouldnt be the right approach..you should do some hard work of your own too...dont you agree my dear chetta.. > > > > > > > > Regards again > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 2:12:23 PM > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > You are getting upset and that is contrary to your name that you use here: Santosh! Contentment does not get upset so readily and begin to attack others! What did you mean by plain vs flowery, for instance ;-) > > > > > > > > What is this 'proper research' that you now throw at us great unwashed? > > > > > > > > Please define this " proper research " that now you use as the Golden Parameter! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Rohini Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Thats exactly why i said i wrote only plain english which was not in any flowery language. I just cannot understand why you cannot understand what i wrote. > > > > > > > > > > how did you interpret from my mail that i meant that whats written millions and thousands of year is TRUE??? i did not even write about that issue. but if you want to know then what i believe is something written yesterday or today after proper research could be more more true than something written 100 or 1000 years before. I am saying this now...not in my previous email.. > > > > > > > > > > for heaven's sake please read and re-read my mail till you understand or please stop replying with out of context issues. > > > > > > > > > > Regards again > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 1:52:18 PM > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÃ\ ‚ > > > > > And you misunderstood what I wrote or meant, because you were too absorbed in 'what Santhosh wrote!' hence my request to read it impersonally! > > > > > > > > > > Just because something was written thousands of years ago does not automatically render it more TRUE or for that matter even relevant! :-) > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you misunderstood and misread completely.. . i did not place the two personalities against each other as indicated by " vs " > > > > > > > > > > > > Please try to re-read and understand properly. it was plain english. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:57:59 PM > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  > > > > > > It is not just about sanketnidhi and ramdayalu vs nelakanta as you write in your postings! It goes deeper and wider!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read 73555 > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did re-read as non-santhosh. > > > > > > > //since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else.// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > found nothing wrong with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can you please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\ €¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\ ‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\ Å¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 12:09:02 PM > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'â\ €¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â\ ‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€\ Å¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > read your own message AGAIN, Santhosh jee! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not as Santhosh but 'someone else' who does not know who Santhosh is, for a change! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > why :-) elaborate please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:56:11 AM > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚ÂÂ\ ¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÆ\ ’¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ã\ †'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Ã\ ƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'â€Â\ ¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢âââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Well -- you could have stopped at: > > > > > > > > <<dont have to read too much into it.>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > > > > //Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dont have to read too much into it. > > > > > > > > > since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now we had a mention in this forum abt sanketanidhi by nelakanta. can somene who has it try to period it. what if that was an earlier composition and shri ramadayalu had based his composition on that. otherwise this particular composition by shri dayalu does not mention on which text he has based his writings. obviously he has written it for the benifit for his nephew. so like a master giving notes to his student it was written and handed over and then it would have come down from one generation to another. (like any other classic). Hence very clearly, Shri ramadayalu had his own guru and his own literature on which he based his writings. > > > > > > > > > i hope i was elaborate enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃâ€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'\ Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\ ’…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ’†'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…ÃÆ\ ’‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÃ\ †'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃâ€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'\ Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\ ’…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ’†'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…ÃÆ\ ’‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÃ\ †'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:33:09 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € '¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃâ€\ šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'\ Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚¡\ ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÃÆ\ ’…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ƒÆ’†'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'ÂÃ\ ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'…ÃÆ\ ’‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢ââ€ÅÂ\ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÃ\ †'‚ > > > > > > > > > Thanks Santhosh jee for responding when challenged! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanketanidhi means the " treasure of indications " and it was written by Shri ramadayalu for the benifit of his brother's (vazir chandra's) son Ghasi Ram in the year 1860AD. Pretty modern composition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃÆ\ ’‚¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ\ 'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÃ\ ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÃ\ ‚¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ€\ 'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Â\ ¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ\ ’Æ'à ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…Ã\ Į'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ÃÆ\ ’¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Â\ ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â\ €šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ ƒÆ’Æ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢ ‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ' > Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢â€šÂÂÂÂ\ ¬ÃƒÆ’Æ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ã\ ƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÃ\ †'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € 'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÂÃ\ ‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ã\ †'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ‚\ ¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââÃ\ ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ\ € 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢Ã\ ƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ÃÆ'…ÂÃâ\ €šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\ ƒÆ’…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:06:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Ã\ ‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ Æ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÃÆ\ ’‚¬ÃÆ'‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ\ 'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬ÅÃ\ ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'ÃÃ\ ‚¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ãâ€\ 'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Â\ ¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ\ ’Æ'à ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…Ã\ Į'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ’¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'âââ\ €šÂ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Â 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢ÃÆ\ ’¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÆ'‚Ãâ€\ šÃ‚¦ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚Â\ ¬Ã…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'â\ €šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'Ã\ ƒÆ’Æ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'Ãâ\ €šÃ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ‚\ ¬Â 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'Ã\ ƒÂ¢Ã¢ ‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃÆ' > Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'Ãââ\ ‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¢ÃƒÆ'¢â€šÂÂÂÂ\ ¬ÃƒÆ’Æ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'â€Ã\ ƒâ€¦Ã‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÃ\ †'¢â‚¬Â¦ÃÆ'Æ'Ã\ ¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Ãâ\ € 'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'â€ÂÃ\ ‚ 'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Ã\ †'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ãââ‚\ ¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'ââÃ\ ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚¦ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ãâ\ € 'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢Ã\ ƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ÃÆ'…ÂÃâ\ €šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Ã\ ƒÆ’…¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'ââ‚\ ¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > And yet surprisingly in this thread no one touched upon the obvious! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does SANKET mean? > > > > > > > > > > And What does NIDHI mean...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Sir ji I do not think the question is objective oriented to say S or No.Some explanation and short answer perhaps might be necessary .The list mentioned still goes long as my Guru's books were not mentioned.Mr Santanam,Shri kedar etc. Books in Sanskrit,Books in English and other languages seems to have no equal footing.we have been having galore of misprints,wrong interpretations and different notes as compared to classicals continues to be a devide.This is where probably JRhas to make more efforts to bring in balance different views of modern writers as well as those of sanskrit an others. Classicals n their place might be on highest rostrum.Modern writers with some logic analytical mind try to apply as the social conditions now prevailing in society.Might be bit uncomfortable but unavoidable as Desh.Patra and Kaalman have to be given due regard. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 4/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 Friday, April 2, 2010, 3:18 AM  So is the consensus now that all 'modern' texts less than useful? Sastri, Raman, Raos, Raths, Sareen, etc inclusively so? ;-) Shall we include Shrimalijee and Krishnamurthi jee (KP!) too and Choudhari of course! Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Sir, > It is almost a modern one written in 1917 A.D.It is a prashna sastra based book.Based on jyotish,it explores the way to time conception,gestatio n period and time of delivery.Shri Santosh Ji's information is very useful. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > Friday, April 2, 2010, 2:14 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > //Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate// > > > > dont have to read too much into it. > > since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else. > > > > now we had a mention in this forum abt sanketanidhi by nelakanta. can somene who has it try to period it. what if that was an earlier composition and shri ramadayalu had based his composition on that. otherwise this particular composition by shri dayalu does not mention on which text he has based his writings. obviously he has written it for the benifit for his nephew. so like a master giving notes to his student it was written and handed over and then it would have come down from one generation to another. (like any other classic). Hence very clearly, Shri ramadayalu had his own guru and his own literature on which he based his writings. > > i hope i was elaborate enough. > > > > regards > > santhosh > > > >  > > > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:33:09 AM > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > >  > > Thanks Santhosh jee for responding when challenged! ;-) > > > > Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate :-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Sanketanidhi means the " treasure of indications " and it was written by Shri ramadayalu for the benifit of his brother's (vazir chandra's) son Ghasi Ram in the year 1860AD. Pretty modern composition. > > > > > > Regards > > > santhosh > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:06:40 AM > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > >  > > > And yet surprisingly in this thread no one touched upon the obvious! > > > > > > What does SANKET mean? > > > And What does NIDHI mean...? > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandra shekar ji, > > > > > > > > I saw Neelakanta's name only in the book lists of the publishers and some quotes here and there by diff readers but read only the one u said by VB shastry alone that too in late 80's remember the soul of it than the body. > > > > > > > > brihat jataka also gives u each month is ruled by a particular graha and if any afliction is there in the conception time to a planet in the particular month u can forsee trouble complications or even mis-cariage/ s > > > > > > > > there r 6 grahas in this cycle and after it gets repeated so 2-3 grahas only get a chance > > > > > > > > BTW doctors today don't wait for 40 weeks now prefer 34-36 weeks c-section more cases a lotfaster and quick bucks in India at least in the west c-sectioon is last option and max effort for a normal delivery is given for days > > > > > > > > so the above said rule in the 2nd cycle 2-3 grahas take its precedence and decides its outcome. > > > > > > > > in good old days the Nisheka or shanti muhurth was a selected and chosen one some waited for months or yrs for the 1st nght not like today jump in asap into the bed. so it was possible to do all these predictions or reverse engineering the time alone in the method i had already said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@> > > > > > > > > Fri, April 2, 2010 12:15:05 AM > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > > > > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > > > > > > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > > > > > > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > - > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > > > > > > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > > > > > > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > > > > > > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek h ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > > > > > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > > > > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > - > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji > > > > > > > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > > > > > > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > > > > > > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > > > > With regards, > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > > > > > > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > > > > > > > To each his/her own. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > > With regards,ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > > > > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > > > > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rulesÃÆ'‚ known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > > > > Cusp,RL,ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ NL,ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ SL,ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ SSlord > > > > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Planets,ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ NL,ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ SL,ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ SSlord > > > > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dear Prashantkumar, I know what you mean. Yet, I would personally not give importance to garbhadhana lagna as it always depends on the janma lagna. I would never understand why one has to resort to back calculation as it is always dependent on the Janma lagna. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - Prashant Kumar G B Friday, April 02, 2010 10:57 AM Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 Dear Chandra shekar ji, I saw Neelakanta's name only in the book lists of the publishers and some quotes here and there by diff readers but read only the one u said by VB shastry alone that too in late 80's remember the soul of it than the body. brihat jataka also gives u each month is ruled by a particular graha and if any afliction is there in the conception time to a planet in the particular month u can forsee trouble complications or even mis-cariage/s there r 6 grahas in this cycle and after it gets repeated so 2-3 grahas only get a chance BTW doctors today don't wait for 40 weeks now prefer 34-36 weeks c-section more cases a lotfaster and quick bucks in India at least in the west c-sectioon is last option and max effort for a normal delivery is given for days so the above said rule in the 2nd cycle 2-3 grahas take its precedence and decides its outcome. in good old days the Nisheka or shanti muhurth was a selected and chosen one some waited for months or yrs for the 1st nght not like today jump in asap into the bed. so it was possible to do all these predictions or reverse engineering the time alone in the method i had already said. - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekhar Fri, April 2, 2010 12:15:05 AM Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 Dear Prashantkumar, That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. Chandrashekhar. - Prashant Kumar G B Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 Dear chandra shekar ji true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well thanks - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashekh ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 Dear Prashantkumar, If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. Regards, Chandrashekhar - Prashant Kumar G B Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 Dear Misra ji well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. best wishes - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 ____________ _________ _________ __ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. With regards, Dhirendra Nath Misra ____________ _________ _________ __ ashsam73 <kas Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? Dear Sir, You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. To each his/her own. Cheers !!! Ash , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > Please enlighten me. > With regards, > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > ashsam73 <kas > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > >  > Dhirendra ji, > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > How to know about 3rd child?The rules known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > >  > > Gender of Native-Male. > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > TOB-11:59AM. > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > Cusp,RL,         NL,      SL,    SSlord > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > >  > > Planets,      NL,        SL,     SSlord > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > >  > >  > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > With thanks & regards, > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I see two problems Krishnan ji and scholars may not like my point of view. The first problem is, of course, the corrupted and badgered versions regardless of the intention behind such doctoring. The second one deals with the validity of even the combinations and techniques that may not have been doctored. Together, the two factors, make a complex khichdi that shall keep academicians and researchers happily employed for perhaps decades if not hundreds of years. Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Sir ji > I do not think the question is objective oriented to say S or No.Some explanation and short answer perhaps might be necessary .The list mentioned still goes long as my Guru's books were not mentioned.Mr Santanam,Shri kedar etc. > Books in Sanskrit,Books in English and other languages seems to have no equal footing.we have been having galore of misprints,wrong interpretations and different notes as compared to classicals continues to be a devide.This is where probably JRhas to make more efforts to bring in balance different views of modern writers as well as those of sanskrit an others. > Classicals n their place might be on highest rostrum.Modern writers with some logic analytical mind try to apply as the social conditions now prevailing in society.Might be bit uncomfortable but unavoidable as Desh.Patra and Kaalman have to be given due regard. > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Fri, 4/2/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > Friday, April 2, 2010, 3:18 AM >  > > > So is the consensus now that all 'modern' texts less than useful? Sastri, Raman, Raos, Raths, Sareen, etc inclusively so? ;-) > > > > Shall we include Shrimalijee and Krishnamurthi jee (KP!) too and Choudhari of course! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > It is almost a modern one written in 1917 A.D.It is a prashna sastra based book.Based on jyotish,it explores the way to time conception,gestatio n period and time of delivery.Shri Santosh Ji's information is very useful. > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Fri, 4/2/10, Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ...> > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > Friday, April 2, 2010, 2:14 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini ji, > > > > > > //Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate// > > > > > > > > > > > > dont have to read too much into it. > > > > > > since it was post medieval period i mentioned it as modern composition. but then thats a subjective phrase. whats modern for me might be ancient for someone else. > > > > > > > > > > > > now we had a mention in this forum abt sanketanidhi by nelakanta. can somene who has it try to period it. what if that was an earlier composition and shri ramadayalu had based his composition on that. otherwise this particular composition by shri dayalu does not mention on which text he has based his writings. obviously he has written it for the benifit for his nephew. so like a master giving notes to his student it was written and handed over and then it would have come down from one generation to another. (like any other classic). Hence very clearly, Shri ramadayalu had his own guru and his own literature on which he based his writings. > > > > > > i hope i was elaborate enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:33:09 AM > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Thanks Santhosh jee for responding when challenged! ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Your last sentence: " Pretty modern composition " > > > > > > > > > > > > What should we make out of that? Please elaborate :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , Santhosh Panicker <santhosh10@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanketanidhi means the " treasure of indications " and it was written by Shri ramadayalu for the benifit of his brother's (vazir chandra's) son Ghasi Ram in the year 1860AD. Pretty modern composition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > santhosh > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, 2 April, 2010 11:06:40 AM > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > And yet surprisingly in this thread no one touched upon the obvious! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What does SANKET mean? > > > > > > > And What does NIDHI mean...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandra shekar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw Neelakanta's name only in the book lists of the publishers and some quotes here and there by diff readers but read only the one u said by VB shastry alone that too in late 80's remember the soul of it than the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brihat jataka also gives u each month is ruled by a particular graha and if any afliction is there in the conception time to a planet in the particular month u can forsee trouble complications or even mis-cariage/ s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there r 6 grahas in this cycle and after it gets repeated so 2-3 grahas only get a chance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW doctors today don't wait for 40 weeks now prefer 34-36 weeks c-section more cases a lotfaster and quick bucks in India at least in the west c-sectioon is last option and max effort for a normal delivery is given for days > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so the above said rule in the 2nd cycle 2-3 grahas take its precedence and decides its outcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in good old days the Nisheka or shanti muhurth was a selected and chosen one some waited for months or yrs for the 1st nght not like today jump in asap into the bed. so it was possible to do all these predictions or reverse engineering the time alone in the method i had already said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek har@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fri, April 2, 2010 12:15:05 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is pretty strange as Neelkantha did not write Sanket Nidhi. The Sanketnidhi of Ramdayalu is published by Venkateshwar press. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I am not much convinced about the methods of deducing conception as it is after all based on the janma lagna chart and not always is the gestation period of 279 and odd days that is generally suggested. It is like eating by taking your hand behind your head, not very efficient method of eating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember an ancient text which also gave the method of deciding the gestation period from the chart but did not found it working on live charts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:38 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear chandra shekar ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > true the copy i read is by the author us aid and translated by V subramanya shastry but sagar publications or ranjan do advertise neelakanta's version which is avialble where as ramadayalus version is out of circulation I read it in mu guru's house and someone borrowed it and NEVER RETURNED IT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a copy of it is there in Adyar research library center, chennai have to pick up a photo copy sometime. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but pl interject on the points I had quoted and ur views as well > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar <sharma.chandrashek h ar (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thu, April 1, 2010 10:25:41 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I may interject, I think Sanket Nidhi was written by Ramdayalu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:53 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 31/3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Misra ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well there is a classic called Sanketa Nidhi by Neelakantha, which clearly gives u the formula of predicting the child from time of conception and vice versa, one of the best birth time rectification procudres too come there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for example the lagna at time of conception will be the rasi at birth and chandra rasi at conception time is birth lagna when worked for the gestation period will give u the correct time of birth, there r methods to say similar things from brihat jataka too > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so please do read them and DON'T SAY impossible our vedic astrology is too deep and ppl who had no idea or the will to study the great works came with their own fantasises or paddithis and they r good for their life time may not last as consistantly as our rishies have shown us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. > > > > > > > > http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s & tbl=6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra @ ymail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:57:17 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Guruji,Now you are absconding from the field.Come on ,Sir.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then conception will take place else not.It is truth.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20.If there is no birth data of mother available and only birth data of male is available-Does it mean that male is deprived of benefit of this divine knowledge. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 10:29:22 PM > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You might not be concerned witht he Nakshatra, but I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You asked me about KAS and I showed you the way. Now, it is upto you to walk the journey or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To each his/her own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,I am not concerned with the Nakshatra of mother.This question is generally put by males without hesitation and females do not prefer frequently.The birth data in earlier mail is given about male whose name is Sri Shusheel Saxena.It is not possible to find out the rulling Nakshatra at the time of conception.Because astrologically it is impossible to know the timing of ovolution and ova must be in contact with sperm with in 3 days and then coception will take place else not.So I am unable to grasp as to what do you want to covey by-Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > With regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > > ashsam73 <kas@> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wed, March 31, 2010 9:48:01 PM > > > > > > > > > Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are not understanding my mails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On KAS list you said that you downloaded the lessons, then why are you not reading it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Find the mothers nakshatra at the time of conception and then refer to Lesson 20. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected KAS Seniors, > > > > > > > > > > How to know about 3rd child?The rulesÃÆ'Æ'‚ known to me show that the native is female.But it belongs to a male whose birth particulars are given below.When from the chart of a male gender is indicated as female then can it be inferred that the native will be blessed with only daughters or is this only coincidence that this native has two daughters on other grounds. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Gender of Native-Male. > > > > > > > > > > DOB-13.11.1963 > > > > > > > > > > TOB-11:59AM. > > > > > > > > > > Place-Rampur( U.P), India . > > > > > > > > > > Cusp,RL,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ NL,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SL,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SSlord > > > > > > > > > > cusp RL NL SL SS lord > > > > > > > > > > 1 Sun Moon Mars Jup > > > > > > > > > > 2 Sat Jup Jup Sun > > > > > > > > > > 3 Jup Mer Jup Rah > > > > > > > > > > 4 Mars Sun Sun Mer > > > > > > > > > > 5 Ven Moon Ven Jup > > > > > > > > > > 6 Mer Rah Ket Rah > > > > > > > > > > 7 Moon Sat Moon Jup > > > > > > > > > > 8 Sun Ven Jup Ven > > > > > > > > > > 9 Mer Mars Jup Rah > > > > > > > > > > 10 Ven Jup Ven Moon > > > > > > > > > > 11 Mars Mer Sat Sun > > > > > > > > > > 12 Jup Ven Ven Sat > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Planets,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ NL,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SL,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ SSlord > > > > > > > > > > As/Planets NL SL SS > > > > > > > > > > Asc Moon Mars Jup > > > > > > > > > > Sun Jupiter Venus Venus > > > > > > > > > > Moon Mars Mars Moon > > > > > > > > > > Mars Mercury Venus Rahu > > > > > > > > > > Mercury Jupiter Rahu Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter Mercury Mercury Venus > > > > > > > > > > Venus Saturn Jupiter Mars > > > > > > > > > > Saturn Mars Mars Saturn > > > > > > > > > > Rahu Rahu Mars Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > Ketu Venus Rahu Venus > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Kindly enlighten me on the above matter as per KAS if you are pleased to propogate your theory. > > > > > > > > > > With thanks & regards,ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Because Chandrashekhar_jee -- it is a human tendency to blame our failures and inadequacies upon factors outside of our control! If only we had a better ayanamsha, if only we could find the EXACT epoch that Brahma meant for astrologers to use, if only we had the original-untampered scriptures, if only, if only, the IF ONLY that never ends! :-) In modern jyotish the tendency has become to be on a whirl-wind tour! Ever trying to chase that golden egg, the Holy Grail that will bring us perfection if only we could find it :-) Some of us forget that Jyotish is not a Tour, BUT it is a JOURNEY that sometimes takes more than a lifetime to complete... Regards, Rohiniranjan , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > I know what you mean. Yet, I would personally not give importance to garbhadhana lagna as it always depends on the janma lagna. I would never understand why one has to resort to back calculation as it is always dependent on the Janma lagna. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 SiRR ji, Very True, *Happiness is found along the way, not at the end of the road.-sol gordon * *Regards* *Kulbir bains* ** On 4/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Because Chandrashekhar_jee -- it is a human tendency to blame our failures > and inadequacies upon factors outside of our control! If only we had a > better ayanamsha, if only we could find the EXACT epoch that Brahma meant > for astrologers to use, if only we had the original-untampered scriptures, > if only, if only, the IF ONLY that never ends! :-) > > In modern jyotish the tendency has become to be on a whirl-wind tour! Ever > trying to chase that golden egg, the Holy Grail that will bring us > perfection if only we could find it :-) > > Some of us forget that Jyotish is not a Tour, BUT it is a JOURNEY that > sometimes takes more than a lifetime to complete... > > Regards, > > Rohiniranjan > > <%40>, > " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > > > I know what you mean. Yet, I would personally not give importance to > garbhadhana lagna as it always depends on the janma lagna. I would never > understand why one has to resort to back calculation as it is always > dependent on the Janma lagna. > > > > Regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Dear Rohini Ranjan, I agree. Chandrashekhar. - rohinicrystal Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:25 AM Re: KAS-How to KNOW 3rd Child?-possible 1/4 Because Chandrashekhar_jee -- it is a human tendency to blame our failures and inadequacies upon factors outside of our control! If only we had a better ayanamsha, if only we could find the EXACT epoch that Brahma meant for astrologers to use, if only we had the original-untampered scriptures, if only, if only, the IF ONLY that never ends! :-) In modern jyotish the tendency has become to be on a whirl-wind tour! Ever trying to chase that golden egg, the Holy Grail that will bring us perfection if only we could find it :-) Some of us forget that Jyotish is not a Tour, BUT it is a JOURNEY that sometimes takes more than a lifetime to complete... Regards, Rohiniranjan , " Chandrashekhar " <sharma.chandrashekhar wrote: > > Dear Prashantkumar, > > I know what you mean. Yet, I would personally not give importance to garbhadhana lagna as it always depends on the janma lagna. I would never understand why one has to resort to back calculation as it is always dependent on the Janma lagna. > > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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