Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? Rohiniranjan , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Why should it be surprising? , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? Why should it be surprising? , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > Why should it be surprising? > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Rohini jee, may be. I may not be very good at presenting my thoughts here (for one reason, they are not well formed or organized). I tried going to the root of these classics. I found that most of what Varaha Mihira had written came from Sage Shounaka in Narada Maha purana. His Samhita(Brihad Samhita) is Vashita Samhita. Similarly Narapathijayacharya came from Agni maha purana. All those chakras are mentioned in the classic. Most of the later works (including BPHS, I believe) is a compilation & restructured works from such old classics. Even the words like Sunapha, Anapha, that I thought to from Tajika is mentioned by Sage Shaunaka. However, I could not so far find works that are similar to Jaimini in Sutra form. I am not claiming this as final verdict. There are so many areas I have not touched - for want of time and resources. This is why this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. And frankly, spending time now on such search may not be very helpful also in practical Astrology. But whenever time permits, it is good to satisfy the curiosity. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 9:48:25 PM Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > Why should it be surprising? > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 It is quite natural to find that over such a long period of time, there has occurred a variable degree of 'transformation and transfer' of information. Expecting the contrary would be somewhat unusual if not unimaginable! RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > > Rohini jee, may be. > > I may not be very good at presenting my thoughts here (for one reason, they are not well formed or organized). > > I tried going to the root of these classics. I found that most of what Varaha Mihira had written came from Sage Shounaka in Narada Maha purana. His Samhita(Brihad Samhita) is Vashita Samhita. Similarly Narapathijayacharya came from Agni maha purana. All those chakras are mentioned in the classic. > > Most of the later works (including BPHS, I believe) is a compilation & restructured works from such old classics. Even the words like Sunapha, Anapha, that I thought to from Tajika is mentioned by Sage Shaunaka. > > However, I could not so far find works that are similar to Jaimini in Sutra form. I am not claiming this as final verdict. There are so many areas I have not touched - for want of time and resources. This is why this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. > > And frankly, spending time now on such search may not be very helpful also in practical Astrology. But whenever time permits, it is good to satisfy the curiosity. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:48:25 PM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > Why should it be surprising? > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Very true. The early acharyas were somewhat choosy in assimilating theories so that later students shall not be confused. One of example itself is the subject of Kemadruma yoga under discussion on another thread and the verse mentioned by chandrashekar ji. Though the verse is mentioned, it implicates that such factors is not acceptable to him(the author of that work). This gives something hard for a student to think. But this could not be found in medieval works where they are mixed up indiscriminately creating more confusion than good. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ________________________________ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Sun, April 11, 2010 11:09:15 PM Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? It is quite natural to find that over such a long period of time, there has occurred a variable degree of 'transformation and transfer' of information. Expecting the contrary would be somewhat unusual if not unimaginable! RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohini jee, may be. > > I may not be very good at presenting my thoughts here (for one reason, they are not well formed or organized). > > I tried going to the root of these classics. I found that most of what Varaha Mihira had written came from Sage Shounaka in Narada Maha purana. His Samhita(Brihad Samhita) is Vashita Samhita. Similarly Narapathijayacharya came from Agni maha purana. All those chakras are mentioned in the classic. > > Most of the later works (including BPHS, I believe) is a compilation & restructured works from such old classics. Even the words like Sunapha, Anapha, that I thought to from Tajika is mentioned by Sage Shaunaka. > > However, I could not so far find works that are similar to Jaimini in Sutra form. I am not claiming this as final verdict. There are so many areas I have not touched - for want of time and resources. This is why this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. > > And frankly, spending time now on such search may not be very helpful also in practical Astrology. But whenever time permits, it is good to satisfy the curiosity. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:48:25 PM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > Why should it be surprising? > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Hence the modern Varahamihira as Dr. Raman was called reminded wisely: The proof of the pudding is in the eating! , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag wrote: > > Very true. > > The early acharyas were somewhat choosy in assimilating theories so that later students shall not be confused. > > One of example itself is the subject of Kemadruma yoga under discussion on another thread and the verse mentioned by chandrashekar ji. Though the verse is mentioned, it implicates that such factors is not acceptable to him(the author of that work). This gives something hard for a student to think. > > But this could not be found in medieval works where they are mixed up indiscriminately creating more confusion than good. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Sun, April 11, 2010 11:09:15 PM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > It is quite natural to find that over such a long period of time, there has occurred a variable degree of 'transformation and transfer' of information. Expecting the contrary would be somewhat unusual if not unimaginable! > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini jee, may be. > > > > I may not be very good at presenting my thoughts here (for one reason, they are not well formed or organized). > > > > I tried going to the root of these classics. I found that most of what Varaha Mihira had written came from Sage Shounaka in Narada Maha purana. His Samhita(Brihad Samhita) is Vashita Samhita. Similarly Narapathijayacharya came from Agni maha purana. All those chakras are mentioned in the classic. > > > > Most of the later works (including BPHS, I believe) is a compilation & restructured works from such old classics. Even the words like Sunapha, Anapha, that I thought to from Tajika is mentioned by Sage Shaunaka. > > > > However, I could not so far find works that are similar to Jaimini in Sutra form. I am not claiming this as final verdict. There are so many areas I have not touched - for want of time and resources. This is why this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. > > > > And frankly, spending time now on such search may not be very helpful also in practical Astrology. But whenever time permits, it is good to satisfy the curiosity. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:48:25 PM > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > Why should it be surprising? > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 If my intrusion is considered appropriate I would like to rewind the words of Late Shri BVR in his book " Jaimini Astrology:My interest in jaimini was aroused ....when I was a college student by a Kerala brahmin astrologer......what struck me most was his admirable analysis of the fourth house in my horoscope " Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sun, 4/11/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? Sunday, April 11, 2010, 3:54 PM  Hence the modern Varahamihira as Dr. Raman was called reminded wisely: The proof of the pudding is in the eating! , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > Very true. > > The early acharyas were somewhat choosy in assimilating theories so that later students shall not be confused. > > One of example itself is the subject of Kemadruma yoga under discussion on another thread and the verse mentioned by chandrashekar ji. Though the verse is mentioned, it implicates that such factors is not acceptable to him(the author of that work). This gives something hard for a student to think. > > But this could not be found in medieval works where they are mixed up indiscriminately creating more confusion than good. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 11:09:15 PM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > It is quite natural to find that over such a long period of time, there has occurred a variable degree of 'transformation and transfer' of information. Expecting the contrary would be somewhat unusual if not unimaginable! > > RR_, > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini jee, may be. > > > > I may not be very good at presenting my thoughts here (for one reason, they are not well formed or organized). > > > > I tried going to the root of these classics. I found that most of what Varaha Mihira had written came from Sage Shounaka in Narada Maha purana. His Samhita(Brihad Samhita) is Vashita Samhita. Similarly Narapathijayacharya came from Agni maha purana. All those chakras are mentioned in the classic. > > > > Most of the later works (including BPHS, I believe) is a compilation & restructured works from such old classics. Even the words like Sunapha, Anapha, that I thought to from Tajika is mentioned by Sage Shaunaka. > > > > However, I could not so far find works that are similar to Jaimini in Sutra form. I am not claiming this as final verdict. There are so many areas I have not touched - for want of time and resources. This is why this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. > > > > And frankly, spending time now on such search may not be very helpful also in practical Astrology. But whenever time permits, it is good to satisfy the curiosity. > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:48:25 PM > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > Why should it be surprising? > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Sir, In this context it might be worth to find the views of Parasara and Vriddha yavavna.Both of them confirmed Jamini views on argala .In this context Parasaras Hora Sastra becomes a supplementary information. Jaimini as a very eruidte scholar evolved a system of his own in the form of sutras and later propogated by Neelakantha and Premanidhi ://this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. // It was however for sure the base for sutras also is the Parasai System,which is ver comprehensive source of knowledge available for all Indians. .. > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Sun, 4/11/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote: Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:01 PM  Very true. The early acharyas were somewhat choosy in assimilating theories so that later students shall not be confused. One of example itself is the subject of Kemadruma yoga under discussion on another thread and the verse mentioned by chandrashekar ji. Though the verse is mentioned, it implicates that such factors is not acceptable to him(the author of that work). This gives something hard for a student to think. But this could not be found in medieval works where they are mixed up indiscriminately creating more confusion than good. A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Sun, April 11, 2010 11:09:15 PM Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? It is quite natural to find that over such a long period of time, there has occurred a variable degree of 'transformation and transfer' of information. Expecting the contrary would be somewhat unusual if not unimaginable! RR_, , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > Rohini jee, may be. > > I may not be very good at presenting my thoughts here (for one reason, they are not well formed or organized). > > I tried going to the root of these classics. I found that most of what Varaha Mihira had written came from Sage Shounaka in Narada Maha purana. His Samhita(Brihad Samhita) is Vashita Samhita. Similarly Narapathijayacharya came from Agni maha purana. All those chakras are mentioned in the classic. > > Most of the later works (including BPHS, I believe) is a compilation & restructured works from such old classics. Even the words like Sunapha, Anapha, that I thought to from Tajika is mentioned by Sage Shaunaka. > > However, I could not so far find works that are similar to Jaimini in Sutra form. I am not claiming this as final verdict. There are so many areas I have not touched - for want of time and resources. This is why this thought of who Jaimini is ( as the proponent of Jaimini Sutras) comes to the mind now and then. > > And frankly, spending time now on such search may not be very helpful also in practical Astrology. But whenever time permits, it is good to satisfy the curiosity. > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Sun, April 11, 2010 9:48:25 PM > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > we should try out a telepathic experiment using zenner cards or something, one of these days :-) > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > Rohini jee, nothing to it. I usually sleep late, and yesterday, there was no water in the upper tank. So I had to switch on motor to pump in water and wait till it fills up at around 1:30 AM (India time). While I was waiting, this very thought came to mind. I was surprised to see the very same question when I got up in the morning (your post). > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 10:26:30 AM > > Re: WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > Why should it be surprising? > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > rohini jee, surprisingly, I was asking the same question myself. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Sun, April 11, 2010 8:02:15 AM > > > WHO WAS THIS MAHARSHI JAIMINI...? > > > > > > > > > Speaking of this PITHY matter -- WHO WAS MAHARSHI JAIMINI? > > > > > > Was he one who was a predecessor, contemporary of Parashara or one who came afterwards? > > > > > > Either way, I find it surprising that neither Parashara nor Jaimini mentioned one another in their writings! > > > > > > I think most Jyotishis were very particular about mentioning and paying homage to earlier teachers, munis, and certainly Gods and Goddesses. > > > > > > Why did Parashara and Jaimini did not mentione the other, both of whom are worshipped as the primary and ancient source of Jyotish? > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar ji, > > > > > > > > This is just a thought. Don't you think it is odd that Maharshi Jaimini mentions kemadruma out of context in a adhyaya mostly dedicated to ones profession, conduct, diseases etc and that too using this word without mentioning the anapha, sunapha & durudura. > > > > > > > > I feel a lot of material could have been lost here or mixed-up (dhana/daridra conditions are actually mentioned in the next chapter). > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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