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Dear shri Rohiniranjan,

I have only expressed my displeasure the way she has posted a

quiz and more so she has mentioned that she wants to test the

knowledge. I am only a learner and would be happy to be a learner

and share if there is something worthwhile from my end.

Any quiz related to astro topics can always be an opportunity

to learn and share the interpretations.

I have nothing against M/s.Lilly. My mail was only as an advise

to her to be more careful while putting her mind by way of written

msg. My view is that any quiz from the member  shud go to the

moderator and get it approved and get posted in the forum for

members participation. If this procedure is not followed then it

will become free for all and every member will start posting a quiz.

 

thanks,

regards,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

If I may offer my chawannee...!

 

Monday, March 8, 2010, 7:23 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Believe me, I understand your concern Gopu_jee!

 

Given that member *Lilly* had suddenly surfaced from nowhere and she has been

indeed a very noticeable presence sometimes as a learner, sometimes signing as

AMMA and often posting rather intriguing notes and at times rather profound! She

is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle that has shared a lot or little, as the case

may be, here!

 

And, after her recent venting about astrologers that she paid lots of

hard-earned (I assume) money, and who did not serve her properly, I understand

her frustration too!

 

I generally do not like to make guesses, but I think she is experiencing an

ambivalence!

 

Deep within herself, she feels that divination, astrology is REAL and has TRUE

potential and worth, but at the same time she has not seen anything that would

seem to confirm that. And yet she remains hopeful and hasn't given up on her

BELIEF that there is more to Divination that meets her eye and experience!

 

I do not think she is testing, but just doing what best she can to find

verification for her belief.

 

She should take the BULL by its HORNS and begin learning astrology herself and

she may find a few surprises -- pleasant ones, if she so chooses to do ...

 

I know a FEW who did exactly that and never looked back.

 

A curious mind is a terrible thing to waste, as they say!

 

You may not agree, she may not agree, but that is human beings never find

consensus! Not even teachers and students.

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .> wrote:

>

> dear M/s Lilly,

> I am unable to digest the way u have posted ur quiz. There is

> a difference between u and Shri Tanvir. Tanvir owns this site

> and ur just a member like me and many others. If  a member has

> to post a quiz, it shud come thro the moderator of the group.

> Instead u have posted a quiz and ur mail says that " u want

> to test the knowledge of the members who responds to ur

> quiz " .  I think it doesnt speak good abt ur approach. I am not

> sure whether ur well versed in astrology like some of the learned

> members like shri Babu shenoy or Vattemji to test the knowledge of

> the fellow members.

> I would request the moderator to intervene and avoid such type

> of approaches in regards to quiz.

> It is my advise to M/s Lilly to avoid such approaches in the future and

> any discussion shud not be a testing ground it shud be a learning

> process. Hope u will take it in the right spirits.

>  

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

> --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event)

>

> Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:05 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which

> some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right.

> Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to

> practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took

> place in my life on 5th March, 2010.

> The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the

> actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march.

> Anyone interested in taking a guess?

>

> Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM

> Patna, Bihar(India)

>

> Lilly

>

>

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Dear Shri Gopu Ji and Others,

The very fact the members who endeavor to ask questions and want to know

solutions to their problems are some kind of quiz.only.

An extra quiz might not have been very consequential to the group.The only thing

probably does not sound and coherent is to " quiz for all of you to practice,

and also to test your knowledge " .

Unfortunately she gives credence to her practical experience and make it as a 

base to quiz other knowledge.

Also if she has taken up directly with the administrator and got the reply she

must have considered the communication as addressed to her only.

Such messages if they r let out through the Moderator would have made her stand

much appreciable..certainly this way the group can not be tested at some body's

own incidents happenings very day and subject the forum to unnecessary  tasks.

I am of the view,such approaches are fine if  purpose involves some lessons as

curriculalm and review by quiz.

It can never be like that some one has put quiz and so iam also setting a quiz

to prepare so as to test can never be appreciated.

Reply to her message could have been thought as personal and could have remained

silent.i do not know why all these further communication to mebers further?t .

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

 

K Gopu <kgopu_24

Re: If I may offer my chawannee...!

 

Monday, March 8, 2010, 4:32 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear shri Rohiniranjan,

 

I have only expressed my displeasure the way she has posted a

 

quiz and more so she has mentioned that she wants to test the

 

knowledge. I am only a learner and would be happy to be a learner

 

and share if there is something worthwhile from my end.

 

Any quiz related to astro topics can always be an opportunity

 

to learn and share the interpretations.

 

I have nothing against M/s.Lilly. My mail was only as an advise

 

to her to be more careful while putting her mind by way of written

 

msg. My view is that any quiz from the member  shud go to the

 

moderator and get it approved and get posted in the forum for

 

members participation. If this procedure is not followed then it

 

will become free for all and every member will start posting a quiz.

 

 

 

thanks,

 

regards,

 

k.gopu

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com>

 

If I may offer my chawannee... !

 

 

 

Monday, March 8, 2010, 7:23 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Believe me, I understand your concern Gopu_jee!

 

 

 

Given that member *Lilly* had suddenly surfaced from nowhere and she has been

indeed a very noticeable presence sometimes as a learner, sometimes signing as

AMMA and often posting rather intriguing notes and at times rather profound! She

is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle that has shared a lot or little, as the case

may be, here!

 

 

 

And, after her recent venting about astrologers that she paid lots of

hard-earned (I assume) money, and who did not serve her properly, I understand

her frustration too!

 

 

 

I generally do not like to make guesses, but I think she is experiencing an

ambivalence!

 

 

 

Deep within herself, she feels that divination, astrology is REAL and has TRUE

potential and worth, but at the same time she has not seen anything that would

seem to confirm that. And yet she remains hopeful and hasn't given up on her

BELIEF that there is more to Divination that meets her eye and experience!

 

 

 

I do not think she is testing, but just doing what best she can to find

verification for her belief.

 

 

 

She should take the BULL by its HORNS and begin learning astrology herself and

she may find a few surprises -- pleasant ones, if she so chooses to do ...

 

 

 

I know a FEW who did exactly that and never looked back.

 

 

 

A curious mind is a terrible thing to waste, as they say!

 

 

 

You may not agree, she may not agree, but that is human beings never find

consensus! Not even teachers and students.

 

 

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .> wrote:

 

>

 

> dear M/s Lilly,

 

> I am unable to digest the way u have posted ur quiz. There is

 

> a difference between u and Shri Tanvir. Tanvir owns this site

 

> and ur just a member like me and many others. If  a member has

 

> to post a quiz, it shud come thro the moderator of the group.

 

> Instead u have posted a quiz and ur mail says that " u want

 

> to test the knowledge of the members who responds to ur

 

> quiz " .  I think it doesnt speak good abt ur approach. I am not

 

> sure whether ur well versed in astrology like some of the learned

 

> members like shri Babu shenoy or Vattemji to test the knowledge of

 

> the fellow members.

 

> I would request the moderator to intervene and avoid such type

 

> of approaches in regards to quiz.

 

> It is my advise to M/s Lilly to avoid such approaches in the future and

 

> any discussion shud not be a testing ground it shud be a learning

 

> process. Hope u will take it in the right spirits.

 

>  

 

> regards,

 

> k.gopu

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

 

> Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event)

 

>

 

> Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:05 AM

 

>

 

>

 

>  

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Members,

 

>

 

> I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which

 

> some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right.

 

> Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to

 

> practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took

 

> place in my life on 5th March, 2010.

 

> The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the

 

> actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march.

 

> Anyone interested in taking a guess?

 

>

 

> Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM

 

> Patna, Bihar(India)

 

>

 

> Lilly

 

>

 

>

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And why not? The more the merrier :-)

And as I keep reminding all, the readers always have the choice to pay attention

to the emails of interest and to ignore that which does not interest them :-)

 

With a large forum like this, it would be difficult to control all the processes

too rigidly. Tanvir and Prashantjee will never be able to go home and may have

to bring their sleeping bag here on the forum to just doing the traffic control

operations :-)

 

RR_,

 

, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

>

> Dear shri Rohiniranjan,

> I have only expressed my displeasure the way she has posted a

> quiz and more so she has mentioned that she wants to test the

> knowledge. I am only a learner and would be happy to be a learner

> and share if there is something worthwhile from my end.

> Any quiz related to astro topics can always be an opportunity

> to learn and share the interpretations.

> I have nothing against M/s.Lilly. My mail was only as an advise

> to her to be more careful while putting her mind by way of written

> msg. My view is that any quiz from the member  shud go to the

> moderator and get it approved and get posted in the forum for

> members participation. If this procedure is not followed then it

> will become free for all and every member will start posting a quiz.

>  

> thanks,

> regards,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

> --- On Mon, 3/8/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

>

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

> If I may offer my chawannee...!

>

> Monday, March 8, 2010, 7:23 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> Believe me, I understand your concern Gopu_jee!

>

> Given that member *Lilly* had suddenly surfaced from nowhere and she has been

indeed a very noticeable presence sometimes as a learner, sometimes signing as

AMMA and often posting rather intriguing notes and at times rather profound! She

is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle that has shared a lot or little, as the case

may be, here!

>

> And, after her recent venting about astrologers that she paid lots of

hard-earned (I assume) money, and who did not serve her properly, I understand

her frustration too!

>

> I generally do not like to make guesses, but I think she is experiencing an

ambivalence!

>

> Deep within herself, she feels that divination, astrology is REAL and has TRUE

potential and worth, but at the same time she has not seen anything that would

seem to confirm that. And yet she remains hopeful and hasn't given up on her

BELIEF that there is more to Divination that meets her eye and experience!

>

> I do not think she is testing, but just doing what best she can to find

verification for her belief.

>

> She should take the BULL by its HORNS and begin learning astrology herself and

she may find a few surprises -- pleasant ones, if she so chooses to do ...

>

> I know a FEW who did exactly that and never looked back.

>

> A curious mind is a terrible thing to waste, as they say!

>

> You may not agree, she may not agree, but that is human beings never find

consensus! Not even teachers and students.

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@ .> wrote:

> >

> > dear M/s Lilly,

> > I am unable to digest the way u have posted ur quiz. There is

> > a difference between u and Shri Tanvir. Tanvir owns this site

> > and ur just a member like me and many others. If  a member has

> > to post a quiz, it shud come thro the moderator of the group.

> > Instead u have posted a quiz and ur mail says that " u want

> > to test the knowledge of the members who responds to ur

> > quiz " .  I think it doesnt speak good abt ur approach. I am not

> > sure whether ur well versed in astrology like some of the learned

> > members like shri Babu shenoy or Vattemji to test the knowledge of

> > the fellow members.

> > I would request the moderator to intervene and avoid such type

> > of approaches in regards to quiz.

> > It is my advise to M/s Lilly to avoid such approaches in the future and

> > any discussion shud not be a testing ground it shud be a learning

> > process. Hope u will take it in the right spirits.

> >  

> > regards,

> > k.gopu

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ ...>

> > Quiz 2 (5th march 2010 event)

> >

> > Sunday, March 7, 2010, 9:05 AM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I know Tanvir just recently posted a quiz for all of us recently which

> > some of you attempted, and may have came close to getting it right.

> > Now, I would also like to set up another quiz for all of you to

> > practice, and also to test your knowledge..A very important event took

> > place in my life on 5th March, 2010.

> > The whole event lasted almost 1 week(1st march to 6th march) but the

> > actual trigger that led up to 5th march incident started on 1st march.

> > Anyone interested in taking a guess?

> >

> > Birth Data: 4th march 1976@ 12:20AM

> > Patna, Bihar(India)

> >

> > Lilly

> >

> >

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