Sukirat Ji: Help me out plz!!

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Sukirat Ji,

               I found Punarpho Dosh(“Punarphoo is the

phenomenon  of " SAT and MOON being connected to each other .in any

wayâ€Â ) in your chart which is mentioned here in detail.Some says it gets

cancelled in certain condition .But it does not seem cancelled to me. 

Punarphoo

Contents

1.                          1 What is " Punarphoo " ?

2.                          2 The Cancellation of

" Punarphoo "  

3.                          3 References

 

What is " Punarphoo " ?

Connection between Saturn and Moon is known as Punarphoo or Punarphoo Dosha.

Shri K. S. Krishnamurti dealt Punarphoo mainly from marriage perspective and

talked about Punarphoo in sixth reader (Marriage, Married Live and Children).

Here is excerpt from the Sixth Reader –

 

“Whenever Saturn has got any connection what-so-even with Moon, there will be

some obstacle or impediment, not only during negotiation but also at the time of

fixation and even at the time of celebration of the marriage. This connection

between Moon and Saturn causes delay, though ultimately both of them do much

more good with a better partner.â€

 

According to him headache, fear and anxiety are some of the results of

Punarphoo. Though the results of Punarphoo are not very clearly defined in sixth

reader, some of the possibilities due to Punarphoo are (Taken from:

/message/7673)

* Broken engagement 

* Postphonement of marriage date, after it is fixed

* The spouse not being the first choice

* Delay while travelling to the Marriage place etc.

Meaning of 'connection' was not very clearly defined in sixth reader. Though the

following has been mentioned (taken from: Sixth reader, Page #78, Sixth Edition

- June 1993) -

1. Saturn in the star of the Moon and sub of Saturn

2. Moon is in the star of Saturn and in sub of Moon

3. Saturn in the houses - 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10

Later KP followers defined ‘connection’ between Saturn and Moon more

precisely as follows - (taken from the book " PUNARPHOO: Saturn & Moon " - by K.

Subramaniam) -

1. Any of these connections between Saturn and Moon will result in Punarphoo

1. Saturn in the star of the Moon and his own sub,

2. or Moon is in the star of Saturn and in her own sub,

3. or if Moon and Saturn are in the same sign.

2. The condition pertains also if the Moon is in the star of Saturn and in the

sub of the Moon,

3. or if the Moon is the 3rd or 10th sign from Saturn, to Saturn's 3rd and 10th

aspect from the Moon. 

Some KP astrologers prefer much simpler definition, e.g. -

* “Punarphoo is the phenomenon  of " SAT and MOON being connected to each

other .in any wayâ€Â 

- Anant Raichur (Taken

from: /message/6097)

 

Whereas, some give more importance to special aspects of Saturn and the houses

involved -

* Punarphoo dosha, is mainly caused by the evil aspect of Sat over the Moon, by

his powerful IIIrd and Xth aspect, mainly,and his other aspects on the Moon are

secondary.

* Punarphoo will cause some obstacles, not only during negotiations for

marriage but ALSO at the time of celebration of the marriage. It can upset and

change the date set for the marriage.

* Further, if Saturn is deposited in the constellation of Moon and sub of Sat

and if Moon is deposited in the I, III, V, VII, and X, then such difficulties

arise

- L. Y. Rao (Taken from: /message/6097)

 

Later some KP astrologers also expended definition of Punarphoo for other aspect

of life like profession etc. and interpreted it for delay and obstacle in those

areas. Punarphoo is a horary chart is also interpreted by some KP astrologer as

delay in getting results related to the the question under consideration

(/message/8658). 

 

Here is what Mr Vaikari Ramamurthy has written about the effects of Punarphoo

(/message/20724)

1. Our beloved guruji in his readers mentioned about this " Punarphoo " only in

some marriage matters and he has not elaborated this (any other) aspect of

Sat-Moon combination.

2. I had lot of experience of this Sat-Moon combination, i.e. Punarphoo dosha

not only in marriage aspect, but each and every aspect of a man's life. We can

call it is a Dosha of this Moon-Sat combination like mars dosha and other

malefic doshas.

3. I have covered almost all the cases such as marriage, progeny, love affairs,

intercaste marriage, delays profession, denial of marriage, betrothal, marriage

agreements, mismatched marriage and also some miserable life of the native due

to the presence of this Sat-Moon combination, i.e. Punarphoo

Some astrologers considered Punarphoo impacts aspects of life signified by the

houses with which Saturn and Moon are connected. For example, if the Saturn and

Moon are connected with 10th house, it will create delay and impediments in

profession and career (/message/8691)

The Cancellation of " Punarphoo "  

(Taken from: " Cancellation of Punarphoo " by the late Pt. K.R. Kar in the " K.P. &

Astrology " - 1996 Annual issue (pages 69-72) -

/message/8690)

 

Generally speaking, connection of Sun with the Punarphoo causing planets (Saturn

and Moon) results in cancellation of Punarphoo. Precisely speaking, cancellation

takes place due to following conditions -

1. Sat or Moon or both in association with Sun in one sign (could involve

even two houses)

2. Sat or Moon in the star of Sun

3. Sun is in a star, lord of which is near either Moon or Saturn.

4. Sun is in the star of either Moon or Sat

5. Any planet near the Moon or Saturn, but is posited in the star of Sun

6. Sat or Moon is in the sub-sub of Sun

With good wishes,

 

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

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Sukirat Kaur <carnation788

 

Fri, January 8, 2010 3:51:26 PM

Re: Help me out plz!!

 

 

Respected Misra

Many thanks for ur advice.

Best Regards

Sukirat

--- On Tue, 5/1/10, Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com> wrote:

 

Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra@ ymail.com>

Re: Help me out plz!!

 

Tuesday, 5 January, 2010, 7:27 PM

 

 

 

Sukirat,A perusal of your chart shows that sub lord of 7th cusp is saturn

posited in ascendant in leo sign and aspecting Moon forming ''Punarphoo

Dosh''.Punarphoo Dosh often delays the marriage and some times denial /no

chance of marriage is also seen.Saturn is sub lord of 7th cusp and significator

of 7th also .Hence denial of marriage is not ruled out.No gemstones is suggested

in such cases.You must chant mantra early in the morning for early

marriage.Suitable mantra is given here for you, ''Hea Gauri Shankar Ardhangi

Yatha Twam Shankar Priya,Tatha Mam Kuru Kalyani Kant Kantam Sudurlabham. ''Shani

Pooja will be also helpfull for you.

With good wishes, 

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

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carnation788 <carnation788@ .co. in>

 

Tue, January 5, 2010 5:21:48 PM

Help me out plz!!

 

 

Respected Members,

I am going through a very bad phase for the last 4-5 years.I am doing rather

fine at professional level but at personal level things are just going from bad

to worse. i dont know whom to blame for all that keeps happeening to me.the

whole process started in july 2006 with me getting engaged to an NRI guy. within

couple of months my family realised that something was fishy and what all we

were told about the guy was a big lie....the engagment was called off just 3

weeeks before the scheduled marriage. since then i have been engaged once more

which also dint lead to much and again the marriage was called off...this was in

dec 2008. i happened to meet a guy in jan 2009 and things were going quite

smoothly or that was what we thought!! in nov 2009 we found out that the guy had

lied to us about everything and anything!! This relationship ended too!!

All these breakups have effected me and my family badly...parents have been

wanting to marry me off and everytime they zero on some one...something or the

other happens and things stop there!! i dunno what is causing all these

rejections and breakups but they are making me very panicky and superstious! ! i

have started to belive that i am an ever failure in relationships! ! Can i plz

request the members here to have a look at my chart and guide me through this

phase.Is marriage there in my chart and can i have happy relationshiip with the

one that i might get married to?? Also guide me about the probable time of

marriage. My details ar 06-06-1978, 11.40am, amritsar.

Best Regards

Sukirat...am a female