Are Indians really that different from the rest of the world?

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Getting back to work ;-)

 

I do not think Indians really are all that different from other nationalities!

 

It is sad that when we hear about how indians view marriage, and divorce and so

on, we mostly hear from Indian males, and generally the older ones (40+)!

 

Sadly, I would call this a biased view, rather archaic! Where are the Indian

sisters?

 

Surely they have an opinion or two!

 

Let us hear from the silent majority!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini ji,

>

> I could not help laughing.. Some time back, when i wrote about those noisy

characters, you advised to let it go and live with them. It is funny that you

forgot about it.

>

> What you wrote is very true about such myths being circulated. What I am

saying is only this, these statistical figures do not prove anything unless the

criterias are correct.

>

> Astrological analysis does not depend on statistics or quantification of

planatory influence. They could only be a small index in its evaluation. Sages

or acharyas many a times have provided different opinion of laid focus on

different aspects of life when it comes to various positions of  planets. It is

the responcibility of a serious astrologer to understand, evaluate and give

proper guidence to the natives.

>

> As far as the said database is concerned, what is its background, particularly

the culture of people whose details are included.

>

> Upto 20 years back, how many of Indians used to go to the court to get a

divorce even in extreme conditions? compared to westerners/europeans? whose data

could be more in that database. Here, even if the life is hell, couples vary

rarely used to go for divorce. In contrast, now - a - days divorce notices are

given within 6 months of marriage at the drop of a hat. why the sudden increase?

>

> The effect of planets 20 years back and now would be same. But the willingness

of people to face their onsloughts and hold on to the institution of marriage,

considered to be sacred is lacking. 

>

> And don't blame the astrologers alone. What about numerous astrology books

available on the railway station stands?

>

> Just take a statistics on the kind of people who pose such questions on

internet.

>

> 90% percent of them started to learn astrology not because they are truely

inclined towards it, but out their on own fear about their life and failures in

their lives. What kind of " field of view " does it provide to them?

>

>

>

>  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

>

> Sun, January 10, 2010 3:01:08 PM

> Re: when i will get married?

>

>  

> I am happy to hear Shenoy jee that both of us connect to numbers like

siblings, without rivalry ;-)

>

> I have never held back when it comes to jyotish which I am very passionate

about, though I am a rather placid person otherwise!

>

> I simply do not believe in this ONE FACTOR reality that has sadly been

carelessly encouraged by the modern jyotish community!

>

> Sun in 7 will cause divorce

> Saturn in 8 will give long life

> Jupiter in 5 will be bad for children

> Mars in 12,1,2,4,7,8 is BAD for daughters

> Moon in fifth even sign will give daughters

>

> And these very people then begin pointing to BPHS as their BIBLE!

>

> Quite frankly, it gives me the cosmic RASH!

>

> But I realize that others may not share my passion and for them astrology may

just be a hobby or whatever!

>

> By the way, you should really get rid of those noisy characters that show up

in your emails and I have seen those in postings of some others too! They are

almost making a signature ;-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini ji,

> >

> > On the contrary, it did made  a lot of sense.

> >

> > After all  my business depends on Numbers, Statistics, indices &

criterias. 

> >  A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> >

> > Sun, January 10, 2010 2:25:55 PM

> > Re: when i will get married?

> >

> >  

> > Suresh jee,

> >

> > I am sorry to hear that numbers and calculations did not work for you :-(

> >

> > I hear you!

> >

> > When Charles first mentioned that Astrology is amoral, it made me sit up

straight!

> >

> > Indeed, so it is! Astrology does not care what happens to nativity, negative

or positive!

> >

> > In ancient times in the days of the Oracle of Delphi, the Oracle assumed a

role that was Divine. Perhaps the modern oracles should re-examine their roles

and what they are expected to be or perform as!

> >

> > Even if their livelihood depends on excel or Oracle SQL!

> >

> > RR_,

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " <sureshbabuag@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini ji,

> > >

> > > ya, you bull eye is 19K big, still better would be 19 billon.

> > >

> > > It is same perception that plunged Tataindicombroadban d into loss, where

they computed their penetration of Internet on the basis of ppopulation & cable

tv connection. Absolute truth they realised after 5 years into operation and

millions in loss.

> > >

> > > In the same city, atleast 2000 computers are being sold. They don't get

even 10% of the connections.

> > >

> > > That is statistics for you.  

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:59:13 PM

> > > Re: when i will get married?

> > >

> > >  

> > > Suresh_jee

> > >

> > > there were two groups!

> > >

> > > The " population " and the 'sample'

> > >

> > > The population was 19K+

> > > The sample was was the subpopulation with sun in 7.

> > >

> > > Please read the original message calmly :-)

> > >

> > > The sample was the 'group with sun in 7'!

> > >

> > > I think what I posted just hit the 'Bull's Eye' ;-)

> > >

> > > PEACE! And bring out the calculator again after you read the original

message and understand what was being conveyed ;-)

> > >

> > > RR_,

> > >

> > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohiniji,

> > > >

> > > > Oh! I just put the figures on an exel sheet and let the bill gates do

the calculations.

> > > >

> > > > You can try it yourself.

> > > >

> > > > What you infer from it is upto you.

> > > >

> > > > Whether you want to compare a " Large database " & " 3.1586% "

> > > > or a " no of cases with sun in the 7th " & " no of

casesÃÆ'‚ divorced with sun in the 7th "

> > > >

> > > > I do understood what you tried toÃÆ'‚ convey, but was not

correct. It did just the opposit.

> > > >

> > > > But frankly, doÃÆ'‚ you think,ÃÆ'‚ these

things shall helpÃÆ'‚ anyone?

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 5:13:53 AM

> > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > Suresh jee,

> > > >

> > > > Your calculation does not seem right.

> > > > The point that was being made was simply that the percent incidence of

divorces in the full set of charts was the same as the percentage in the sun in

7 charts (hence sun in 7 was not a significant factor by itself)!

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > RR_,

> > > >

> > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Rohini Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > NosÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  & statistics many a times

are decieving, which is well known fact. But does it always.

> > > > >

> > > > > You haveÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ presented a

statistical figure with good intentions. But what does it indicate?

> > > > >

> > > > > We know that you have checked from a database of aprox 19500 cases.

> > > > > That converted to figures:

> > > > > Cases with sun in the 7th house

(6.997%)ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ = 1364

> > > > > Divorce cases with sun in 7th (3.1586%) = 615

> > > > > That is a whoping 45.1422% of divorce cases with sun in the 7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > In simple words out of all the cases with sun in the 7th 45% of them

had divorce. Need I say more?

> > > > >

> > > > > Astrologers need not & should not create a panic in the hearts of the

public withÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ statements like " you have

sun in the 7th so you will have divorce " , but on the contrary learned persons

who have a flair for writing on anything from dog shows to space

technologiesÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚  should not resort to what

could be construed as mockery of a system. Both

areÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ equaly dangerous.

> > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, January 10, 2010 12:10:07 AM

> > > > > Re: when i will get married?

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 

> > > > > Just addressing the point in your posting about vedic astrology saying

that sun in 7 indicates divorce or spouse coming from a higher status family. I

had looked this up earlier on a separate issue:

> > > > > In a relatively large database

> > > > > 6.997% charts had sun in 7

> > > > > 3.2006% individuals in the database had divorce

> > > > > 3.1586% individuals in the sun in 7 group had divorces.

> > > > >

> > > > > 0.4708% persons in the database fell in the Money through marriage

category

> > > > > 0.5743% persons fell in this category in the sun in 7 group.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is what they mean by the saying, " When the rubber hits the

road... " !

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Rajinder "

<rajindersingh23@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a) Date of Birth - 23 april 1980

> > > > > > b) Time of Birth - 20:10 pm (24 hour format)

> > > > > > c) Daylight saving aplicable or not --dont know

> > > > > > d) Place of Birth -- moga, punjab

> > > > > > e) query - when i will get married?

> > > > > > There is maha parivartan yoga between 7th lord (mars) and 11th lord(

sun) which says i will be benfitted from marriage and all of sudden i will be

very prosperous and fame will increse only after marriage..till then i will be

doing struggle.

> > > > > > vedic astrology says sun in 7th house means partner from royal

family or family of higher placed peoples..sun causes separtion and it is not

good for material progress.... .is it be so?

> > > > > > please tell me about the nature of my life partner?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > f) Source of time of birth--- recoreded by parents..almost very

accurate..

> > > > > > g) Some important events --two major accidents which i survived with

gods grace with no or little injury...u can say miracles..dates are 23 nov 2006

and 23 sept 2009

> > > > > > Loss of job 9 april 2008..

> > > > > > joing of jobs 9 april 2008 and 19 sept 2008

> > > > > > h) Any previous history of remedies --no remedy

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance

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