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DEAR ALL

 

Taurus LAGNA has the biggest yogakaraka Saturn,any

combination with Mercury or Venus gives a high Raj

yoga for wealth and power

 

Regards

Puneet Ahuja

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear All,

> Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the

> things you know about

> this Lagna? How would be that person?

> Love,

> Sreenadh

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Dear all,

 

I have taurus lagna. My Saturn aspects Me and is also in lagna (LL Ve)

but so far I have not experience great wealth or power.

 

I can say that i am subborn in character. I am quite short (5 feet 7)

I have a soft voice too.

 

Ram.

 

 

 

On 5/30/06, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:

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> DEAR ALL

>

> Taurus LAGNA has the biggest yogakaraka Saturn,any

> combination with Mercury or Venus gives a high Raj

> yoga for wealth and power

>

> Regards

> Puneet Ahuja

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>

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> --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

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> > Dear All,

> > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the

> > things you know about

> > this Lagna? How would be that person?

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

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> >

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Dear all,

 

Actually i have great sympathy for Taurus Lagna people. For no other

lagna can there be such a great yogakaraka as Saturn is for Taurus

(Lord of both 9th and 10 - the most powerful kendra and the most

powerful trikona). But then Saturn is also a Badhaka for this Lagna.

 

My question is - is a benefic yogakaraka better (now how to judge

better from worse?)than a malefic yogakaraka?

 

And of course, a yogakara that is not a badhaka must be better than a

yogakaraka that is badhaka?!!!

 

Love,

Vinita

 

 

 

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wrote:

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> Dear all,

>

> I have taurus lagna. My Saturn aspects Me and is also in lagna (LL

Ve)

> but so far I have not experience great wealth or power.

>

> I can say that i am subborn in character. I am quite short (5 feet

7)

> I have a soft voice too.

>

> Ram.

>

>

>

> On 5/30/06, puneet ahuja <punsoft2003 wrote:

> >

> > DEAR ALL

> >

> > Taurus LAGNA has the biggest yogakaraka Saturn,any

> > combination with Mercury or Venus gives a high Raj

> > yoga for wealth and power

> >

> > Regards

> > Puneet Ahuja

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear All,

> > > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the

> > > things you know about

> > > this Lagna? How would be that person?

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

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> Dear all,

>

> Actually i have great sympathy for Taurus Lagna people. For no other

> lagna can there be such a great yogakaraka as Saturn is for Taurus

> (Lord of both 9th and 10 - the most powerful kendra and the most

> powerful trikona).

 

 

Dear Vinita,

 

Saturn isn't an automatic yogakaraka for you Taureans. I know of at

least Bhavartha Ratnakara saying as much. The yogakaraka-badhaka

duality is somewhat analogous to what Mars is for Leonians like me ;)

 

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Yup, Verna, I agree (for whatever that is worth! ;))as i also agree

with the use of the word " somewhat " before analogous.

 

Just claiming a little " superiority " of yogakaraka owning 9 and

10th over yogakaraka owning 4th and 9th! ;)

 

 

, " vernalagnia "

<vernalagnia wrote:

>

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Actually i have great sympathy for Taurus Lagna people. For no

other

> > lagna can there be such a great yogakaraka as Saturn is for

Taurus

> > (Lord of both 9th and 10 - the most powerful kendra and the most

> > powerful trikona).

>

>

> Dear Vinita,

>

> Saturn isn't an automatic yogakaraka for you Taureans. I know of at

> least Bhavartha Ratnakara saying as much. The yogakaraka-badhaka

> duality is somewhat analogous to what Mars is for Leonians like

me ;)

>

> +++

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, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

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> Just claiming a little " superiority " of yogakaraka owning 9 and

> 10th over yogakaraka owning 4th and 9th! ;)

 

 

Vinita, while we're on this, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that

a yogakaraka is one of those planets that has what it takes but not

necessarily deliver regardless. Proper placements in rasi and navamsa

are vital, and that depends on inherited purvapunya and all that sort

of thing.

 

Just as a statistical exercise, if you consider the various placements

of Sa for a Taurean, you'll find that the number of rasis that's

really favorable as placement positions vis-a-vis Cp and Aq are very

limited; in fact, I'd say there are only two places, which are the

Venusian rasis, but in one of them too would be a marana sthana!

 

Mars for a Leonian isn't so limiting :)

 

QED?

 

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, " vernalagnia "

<vernalagnia wrote:

Vinita, while we're on this, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that

> a yogakaraka is one of those planets that has what it takes but not

> necessarily deliver regardless. Proper placements in rasi and

navamsa

> are vital, and that depends on inherited purvapunya and all that

sort

> of thing.

 

 

Yes, Yes,Yes!

 

Just as a statistical exercise, if you consider the various

placements

> of Sa for a Taurean, you'll find that the number of rasis that's

> really favorable as placement positions vis-a-vis Cp and Aq are

very

> limited; in fact, I'd say there are only two places, which are the

> Venusian rasis, but in one of them too would be a marana sthana!

>

> Mars for a Leonian isn't so limiting :)

 

In fact, the above statement made me look at all the yogakaraka

planets to see what u mean. It appears there is a fairly equal

division of favourable placements for yogakaraka planets in all

(sthir) rasis. Mars would be favourable in 4th, 5th and 9th Houses

for Leo, Venus also in 4th, 5th and 9th Houses for Acquarius and

Saturn in 5th 9th and 10th houses for Taurus. If you want to take

out badhaka sthan from the reckoning, it doesn't affect the results.

But even then, having a benefic Venus as a yogakaraka would be

better than a malefic yogakara, don't u think? Furthermore, Venus is

also exalted in a kendra for Acquarius, and therefore may

be " better " than the other 2 yogakaras, placement-wise.

 

Rasi-wise, God deals a fairly even hand, don't u think? Placement-

wise, of course, each to his past punya-papa actions.

 

I may have been pulling your leg when i talked of " superiority " of

one yogakara over the other.

 

But actually, i dont know enough about this to enter into a serious

discussion with any of u guys. Furthermore, this is the result of

some very un-systematic, muddled up learning most of which has to be

unlearned anyway.

 

 

 

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > Just claiming a little " superiority " of yogakaraka owning 9 and

> > 10th over yogakaraka owning 4th and 9th! ;)

>

>

> Vinita, while we're on this, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact

that

> a yogakaraka is one of those planets that has what it takes but not

> necessarily deliver regardless. Proper placements in rasi and

navamsa

> are vital, and that depends on inherited purvapunya and all that

sort

> of thing.

>

> Just as a statistical exercise, if you consider the various

placements

> of Sa for a Taurean, you'll find that the number of rasis that's

> really favorable as placement positions vis-a-vis Cp and Aq are

very

> limited; in fact, I'd say there are only two places, which are the

> Venusian rasis, but in one of them too would be a marana sthana!

>

> Mars for a Leonian isn't so limiting :)

>

> QED?

>

> +++

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, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> It appears there is a fairly equal

> division of favourable placements for yogakaraka planets in all

> (sthir) rasis. Mars would be favourable in 4th, 5th and 9th Houses

> for Leo,

 

 

Assuming Ma retains lordship of Sc:

 

a. 4th would be unfavorable, since it'd have no digbala + would be at

8th from 9th

 

b. 5th is favorable though purists would harrumph at a malefic in a trine

 

c. 9th would be unfavorable, being 6th from 4th and retaining potence

as a badhaka. Good digbala is a plus.

 

Venus also in 4th, 5th and 9th Houses for Acquarius

 

a. Ve in 4th is fantastic for comforts, conferring malavya yoga, but

is 8th from 9th, thus a mixed blessing. The kendradhipati dosha is

another consideration.

 

b. 5th is excellent

 

c. 9th is very good too. A natural benefic in a trine is something

you'd want. Maternal and land-related matters might be a bit of an

ask, being 6th from 4th.

 

If you go this way, you'll notice that save for Aq, Saturn for

Taureans doesn't really have any place to be posited comfortably.

 

Ditto (nearly) for Libran natives, although an exalted placement in

lagna too would be passable.

 

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Agreed!

 

Anything to do with malefics is not too good anyway. Among

Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka yoga are not rated

that " fortunate " .

 

What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th for Taureans? It

has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 upachaya houses of which

one is its own house and one Trik sthan for which it is karaka.

 

 

, " vernalagnia "

<vernalagnia wrote:

>

> , " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> >

> > It appears there is a fairly equal

> > division of favourable placements for yogakaraka planets in all

> > (sthir) rasis. Mars would be favourable in 4th, 5th and 9th

Houses

> > for Leo,

>

>

> Assuming Ma retains lordship of Sc:

>

> a. 4th would be unfavorable, since it'd have no digbala + would be

at

> 8th from 9th

>

> b. 5th is favorable though purists would harrumph at a malefic in

a trine

>

> c. 9th would be unfavorable, being 6th from 4th and retaining

potence

> as a badhaka. Good digbala is a plus.

>

> Venus also in 4th, 5th and 9th Houses for Acquarius

>

> a. Ve in 4th is fantastic for comforts, conferring malavya yoga,

but

> is 8th from 9th, thus a mixed blessing. The kendradhipati dosha is

> another consideration.

>

> b. 5th is excellent

>

> c. 9th is very good too. A natural benefic in a trine is something

> you'd want. Maternal and land-related matters might be a bit of an

> ask, being 6th from 4th.

>

> If you go this way, you'll notice that save for Aq, Saturn for

> Taureans doesn't really have any place to be posited comfortably.

>

> Ditto (nearly) for Libran natives, although an exalted placement in

> lagna too would be passable.

>

> +++

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, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Agreed!

>

> Anything to do with malefics is not too good anyway. Among

> Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka yoga are not rated

> that " fortunate " .

 

 

My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th, which might be an

oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an old, vice-loving, dumb

hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh :o)

 

 

 

> What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th for Taureans? It

> has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2 upachaya houses of

which one is its own house and one Trik sthan for which it is karaka.

 

 

There's a rule about Saturn, which states that it does good to the

house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects (the exact reverse

for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and

you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd house effects are

somewhat aberrated.

 

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Dear Vinita ji,

==>

Among

> > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka

> yoga are not rated

> > that " fortunate " .

<==

Who are the rating authorities. ;)

> about placement of Saturn in 6th

Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for

that?

> It has " good " digbala,

Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for

that?

> It aspects 2 upachaya houses

Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for

that?

> of which one is its own house

Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for

that?

> and one Trik sthan

Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for

that?

> for which it is karaka.

Yap, the question is - What will you PREDICT for

that?

 

Dear Verna ji,

> There's a rule about Saturn, which states that it

> does good to the house it's placed

ok, the question is - What GOOD ?

> and mars the houses it aspects

ok, the question is - What GOOD ?

> (the exact reverse for Jupiter, I might add)

ok, the question is - What BAD ?

> Apply that to a fem with Sa in 6th and

> you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd house

> effects are somewhat aberrated.

Oh, god! At least some indication towards prediction

is there. But is it clear?!

So the real question is WHAT PREDICTION SHOULD BE

GIVEN TO EACH COMBINATION OR POSIBILITIY WE FIND? Easy

escapes and astrological statements will not do. ;)

P.S. : Neglecting the actual predictions that should

be given (or actual results that should be predicted),

and giving more importance to astrological statements

which are just a tool to arrive at those results, and

in essence being held up in them is one of the pit

fall into which current astrology has fallen into.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

 

--- vernalagnia <vernalagnia wrote:

 

> ,

> " vinita kumar "

> <shankar_mamta wrote:

> >

> > Agreed!

> >

> > Anything to do with malefics is not too good

> anyway. Among

> > Mahapurusha yogas also Shasha yoga and Ruchaka

> yoga are not rated

> > that " fortunate " .

>

>

> My wife's chart has a deb, retro Saturn in 7th,

> which might be an

> oblique Sasa yoga which is known to confer an old,

> vice-loving, dumb

> hubby... so astrology isn't all tosh :o)

>

>

>

> > What say u about placement of Saturn in 6th for

> Taureans? It

> > has " good " digbala, dosn't it? It aspects 2

> upachaya houses of

> which one is its own house and one Trik sthan for

> which it is karaka.

>

>

> There's a rule about Saturn, which states that it

> does good to the

> house it's placed and mars the houses it aspects

> (the exact reverse

> for Jupiter, I might add). Apply that to a fem with

> Sa in 6th and

> you'll see that the 8th (spouse), 12th and 3rd house

> effects are

> somewhat aberrated.

>

> +++

>

 

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