Real Life Experience ! To Madhuji

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Dear Madhuji,

 

I want to express my heartfelt thanks for your responses which are

very much rooted to the ground.

 

U will not believe that i wrote several messges asking more

questions and none would be accepted by the computer. There must be

a jinx. So i'll stop here.

 

Best regards,

Vinita

 

 

 

>

> Vinita,

> For the sake of convenience, I may write FM, MMP etc. Actually I

don't consider any planet to be fully benefic or fully malefic.

Yes .I consider and rate Jupiter as MMP for Taurus Ascendant ,then

my rationale is totally different from that of Mr VK Chaudary's (SA

Fame).Prior to that, let me tell you onething, my approach is quite

different from others. On my end, I rely on my experience as well

as the experience of others, that I get as feed back rather than

parroting sanskrit slokas after slokas to substantiate a point. (By

this statement, I am not attempting for reductio ad absurdum of the

teachings of the Seers). I consider the text books (or Rule books)

bequeathed to us by ancient masters as mere " Guides " and not

anything more than that.I am also convinced more than in Sanskrit ,

a privilage of few scholars coming from the upper strata of the

society , it is in Tamil, the language of common man, treasure

house of Jyotish knowledge is kept (Time has

> devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners of

parachment/palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure house

of knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part even

if it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting converted

at a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to show

allegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their own

erstwhile culture and tradition .

> Now I rank the malignancy of a planet in the following manner.

Priority wise

> -----The 11 L & 11H occupants

> -----The 8L & 8H occupants

> ------The 12L & 12H occupants

> -----The 6L & 6H occupants --Please do remember the 6H is

simultaneously a upachayastana (Improving house) as well as a Dustana

(Unfavourable House). 6th is also one of " Arthatrikona " (Trigon, 2-6-

10) . That might be one of the reasons , the sub period of a

planet, well placed in 6H ,often leads to improvement in monetary

affairs.

>

> Years back, I too was a great admirer of 11 H & 11Lord. I

know ,it is the house of gains without pains, sincere companions,

fulfilment of all desires, elder co-born etc.Bychance, I had an

opportunity to read a write-up of a great Western astrologer by

name RC Smith , in which he was saying from his experience that 11L

or 11H occupants are evil.Since RC Smith study was based on Western

Astrology that depends on Tropical Zodiac, where there is no Dasha

system,I never got an opportunity to test his findings.In 1997,

prior to his death, the outstanding Scholar in Jyotish, Sri R

Santhanam, based on a thread of BPHS, wrote an article in TOA,

captioned " Best and the Worst of 11House . Santhanam, in one of his

letter asked me to test this aphorism in as many cases as possible

that passes through my hand.From then onwards , I am observing the

interesting role played by 11L and 11H occupants.In my studies I

note though the intensity of this aphorism vary according to

different

> Ascendant , in the case if Scorpio Ascendant , this finding,

works like a Gospel Truth. Even if Mercury is well placed in an

angle / trine, for Scorpio born , invariably it will bring untold

sufferings to the native in its Dasha or sub period. I am yet to

come across a chart ,with Scorpio rising, the Dasha or Sub period of

Mercury has gone without registering some unpleasant event in the

life of the native.

> Both R C Smith and R Santhanam found 11L & 11H occupants giving

disease, debts, litigations, quarells etc, the reason is 11th is 6th

counted from 6H of disease, debts, sorrows, quarell . Don't forget

11H is also the house of recovery from disease. .The point is,

along with some tangible gains ,the 11L & 11H occupants, invariably

bring sorrow, debts, litigation , quarell etc, the exact event

depends on the individual nativity.

> The rest in next instalment

> Madhu N Nair

>

> VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote:

> Vinitha,

> For the 1 & 2 nd query I will answer in this mail whereas the 3rd

one requires a little bit description and for that I will post a

seperate message.

> (1)Ofcourse, the nature of the sign counts, but still more

importance is the lordship of Mars for Taurus Ascending. Let us

remember that MT sign of Mars falls in 12H of loss. The

element " Loss " (In relations) is more precipitated , when Mars

occupies Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant.I am yet to form a final

opinion in this matter, but I have repeatedly seen in my studies ,

Mars in Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant, leading to estrangement .

> (2) Need not necessarily.What we see in actual experience is ,

when one runs the sub period of Saturn (For Taurus Ascendant) one

may get promotion (10th Lordship)in job with transfer(9th

lordship) .Parents death coinciding with job securing period. ( !0

is 2nd from 9 & hence a maraka for father and 7 from 4th , hence a

maraka for Mother) Sale & purchase of vehicles/ properties etc ,

simultaneously (9 for purchase , 10 for sale) , overseas journey

for employment/training etc the list illustrative. Ofcourse it goes

without saying Saturn need to be well placed from the Ascendant to

reap beneficial results.

>

> Madhu N Nair

>

> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:

> Dear Vyasaji and friends,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Actually i have a whole lot of questions on Taurus Lagna but at

the

> moment i will confine myself to just the following:

>

> 1. Do u think that just because of the basic nature of the Scorpio

> sign in 7th relationships would suffer (even if Mars is not there)?

>

> 2. Do u think that because badhak Saturn rules the 9th and 10

houses

> there is a struggle involved there as well?

>

> 3. Do u think Jupiter is the most malefic planet for Taurus Lagna

> being lord of 2nd and 11th?

>

> 4. Do u think that Venus even though it is Lagnesh is not that

great

> for the Lagna being ruler of 6th?

>

> 5. Do u think this Lagna has a special affinity to Mercury ruled

> Lagnas....going by Vyasa relationships?

>

> I'll stop here.

>

> Will be extremely grateful for your responses.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> , VYASAJI

> <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> >

> > Sreenadh & Friends,

> > While match making (Compatibility) is done by Keralite

> Astrologers, they use to outrightly reject the concept of Kuja or

> Chowa Dosha, if Mars occupies 7th Rasi Scorpio, saying it is

Mar's

> own sign , hence there is no blemish. However, in several charts

it

> is repeatedly seen, Mars in 7th sign Scorpio leading to seperation

> (Legal or otherwise) at some stage of life.

> > Madhu N Nair

> >

> > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the things you know

> about

> > this Lagna? How would be that person?

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Madhu ji, ==> Time has devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners of parchment / Palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure house of knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part even if it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting converted at a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to show allegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their own erstwhile culture and tradition .<== I agree with that statement completely. You are absolutely right. Some

experiences of KV Sarma (The great scholar who was in search of such Palmyra scripts) comes to my mind. You know what they are. Dear Vinita ji, You said: ==> i wrote several messages asking more questions and none would be accepted by the computer. <== Is the question about "how to predict with retrograde planets?" in your mind? Madhu ji, let us discuss that, that question seems to trouble vinita ji a lot. Love, Sreenadh vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: Dear Madhuji,I want to express my heartfelt thanks for your responses which are very much rooted to the ground.U will not believe that i wrote several messges asking more questions and none would be accepted by the computer. There must be a jinx. So i'll stop here.Best

regards,Vinita>> Vinita,> For the sake of convenience, I may write FM, MMP etc. Actually I don't consider any planet to be fully benefic or fully malefic. Yes .I consider and rate Jupiter as MMP for Taurus Ascendant ,then my rationale is totally different from that of Mr VK Chaudary's (SA Fame).Prior to that, let me tell you onething, my approach is quite different from others. On my end, I rely on my experience as well as the experience of others, that I get as feed back rather than parroting sanskrit slokas after slokas to substantiate a point. (By this statement, I am not attempting for reductio ad absurdum of the teachings of the Seers). I consider the text books (or Rule books) bequeathed to us by ancient masters as mere "Guides" and not anything more than that.I am also convinced more than in Sanskrit , a privilage of

few scholars coming from the upper strata of the society , it is in Tamil, the language of common man, treasure house of Jyotish knowledge is kept (Time has> devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners of parachment/palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure house of knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part even if it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting converted at a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to show allegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their own erstwhile culture and tradition .> Now I rank the malignancy of a planet in the following manner. Priority wise> -----The 11 L & 11H occupants> -----The 8L & 8H occupants> ------The 12L & 12H occupants> -----The 6L

& 6H occupants --Please do remember the 6H is simultaneously a upachayastana (Improving house) as well as a Dustana(Unfavourable House). 6th is also one of "Arthatrikona"(Trigon, 2-6-10) . That might be one of the reasons , the sub period of a planet, well placed in 6H ,often leads to improvement in monetary affairs.> > Years back, I too was a great admirer of 11 H & 11Lord. I know ,it is the house of gains without pains, sincere companions, fulfilment of all desires, elder co-born etc.Bychance, I had an opportunity to read a write-up of a great Western astrologer by name RC Smith , in which he was saying from his experience that 11L or 11H occupants are evil.Since RC Smith study was based on Western Astrology that depends on Tropical Zodiac, where there is no Dasha system,I never got an opportunity to test his findings.In 1997,

prior to his death, the outstanding Scholar in Jyotish, Sri R Santhanam, based on a thread of BPHS, wrote an article in TOA, captioned "Best and the Worst of 11House . Santhanam, in one of his letter asked me to test this aphorism in as many cases as possible that passes through my hand.From then onwards , I am observing the interesting role played by 11L and 11H occupants.In my studies I note though the intensity of this aphorism vary according to different> Ascendant , in the case if Scorpio Ascendant , this finding, works like a Gospel Truth. Even if Mercury is well placed in an angle / trine, for Scorpio born , invariably it will bring untold sufferings to the native in its Dasha or sub period. I am yet to come across a chart ,with Scorpio rising, the Dasha or Sub period of Mercury has gone without registering some unpleasant event in the life of the native.> Both

R C Smith and R Santhanam found 11L & 11H occupants giving disease, debts, litigations, quarells etc, the reason is 11th is 6th counted from 6H of disease, debts, sorrows, quarell . Don't forget 11H is also the house of recovery from disease. .The point is, along with some tangible gains ,the 11L & 11H occupants, invariably bring sorrow, debts, litigation , quarell etc, the exact event depends on the individual nativity. > The rest in next instalment> Madhu N Nair > > VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote:> Vinitha,> For the 1 & 2 nd query I will answer in this mail whereas the 3rd one requires a little bit description and for that I will post a seperate message.> (1)Ofcourse, the nature of the sign counts, but still more importance is the lordship of Mars for Taurus

Ascending. Let us remember that MT sign of Mars falls in 12H of loss. The element"Loss"(In relations) is more precipitated , when Mars occupies Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant.I am yet to form a final opinion in this matter, but I have repeatedly seen in my studies , Mars in Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant, leading to estrangement .> (2) Need not necessarily.What we see in actual experience is , when one runs the sub period of Saturn (For Taurus Ascendant) one may get promotion (10th Lordship)in job with transfer(9th lordship) .Parents death coinciding with job securing period. ( !0 is 2nd from 9 & hence a maraka for father and 7 from 4th , hence a maraka for Mother) Sale & purchase of vehicles/ properties etc , simultaneously (9 for purchase , 10 for sale) , overseas journey for employment/training etc the list illustrative. Ofcourse it goes without saying Saturn need to

be well placed from the Ascendant to reap beneficial results.> > Madhu N Nair > > vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:> Dear Vyasaji and friends,> > Namaskar!> > Actually i have a whole lot of questions on Taurus Lagna but at the > moment i will confine myself to just the following:> > 1. Do u think that just because of the basic nature of the Scorpio > sign in 7th relationships would suffer (even if Mars is not there)?> > 2. Do u think that because badhak Saturn rules the 9th and 10 houses > there is a struggle involved there as well?> > 3. Do u think Jupiter is the most malefic planet for Taurus Lagna > being lord of 2nd and 11th?> > 4. Do u think that Venus even though it is Lagnesh is not that great > for the Lagna being ruler of

6th?> > 5. Do u think this Lagna has a special affinity to Mercury ruled > Lagnas....going by Vyasa relationships?> > I'll stop here. > > Will be extremely grateful for your responses.> > Regards,> > Vinita> > , VYASAJI > <vyasatvm@> wrote:> >> > Sreenadh & Friends,> > While match making (Compatibility) is done by Keralite > Astrologers, they use to outrightly reject the concept of Kuja or > Chowa Dosha, if Mars occupies 7th Rasi Scorpio, saying it is Mar's > own sign , hence there is no blemish. However, in several charts it > is repeatedly seen, Mars in 7th sign Scorpio leading to seperation > (Legal or otherwise) at some stage of life.> > Madhu N Nair > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog@>

wrote:> > Dear All,> > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the things you know > about > > this Lagna? How would be that person? > > Love,> > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Jyotish ji, ==> > will 12.5 to 15 Deg or 17.5 - 20 Deg better than 27.5 to 30 Deg?<== Is it that your question is about the span of a degree, or about KP sub periods? I couldn't actually grasp the inherent point you are trying to discuss. If it has something to do with the span of a degree, then, the span of a particular degree has only one meaning as per ancient astrological system. i.e 20 deg means

19.00 - 20.00 But some people wrongly used to consider 20 deg as - 1) 19.5 to 20.5 OR 2) 20.00 to 21.00 Both these approaches are wrong and is not in line with the ancient practice. It is better to correlate the Benefic/Malefic effects of planets in a particular sign with- 1) The vargas in which they are posited. 2) The Avasta of the planet Than to mechanically correlate it with the generalized consideration of "the degree span of placement of a planet in any sign". As we know - 1) All signs are not the same in giving results. 2 All planets are not the same in giving results 3 The avasta (condition/state) of the planet is of special importance. Love, Sreenadh jyotish <jyotish.bh wrote: Respected Madhu JiIt is great to see your messages and I must thank the forum for giving methe opportunity.I need your kind help.With regards to 8L and 8 occupants,does it happen for planets irrespective of its Degree in 8H?will 12.5 to 15 Deg or 17.5 - 20 Deg better than 27.5 to 30 Deg?if 6L in 8H, 12L in 8H?does it happen for all the occupants in 8H? will all be MMP?Ex. Gemini Asc8H have flg 5 planets:Su 12LMe 10L 1LMa 3LMo 11LVe 2L, 9LregardsJYO-"vinita kumar" <shankar_mamtaThursday, June 01, 2006 12:09 AM Re: Real Life Experience

! To MadhujiDear Madhuji,I want to express my heartfelt thanks for your responses which arevery much rooted to the ground.U will not believe that i wrote several messges asking morequestions and none would be accepted by the computer. There must bea jinx. So i'll stop here.Best regards,Vinita>> Vinita,> For the sake of convenience, I may write FM, MMP etc. Actually Idon't consider any planet to be fully benefic or fully malefic.Yes .I consider and rate Jupiter as MMP for Taurus Ascendant ,thenmy rationale is totally different from that of Mr VK Chaudary's (SAFame).Prior to that, let me tell you onething, my approach is quitedifferent from others. On my end, I rely on my experience as wellas the experience of others, that I get as feed back rather thanparroting sanskrit slokas after slokas to substantiate a point.

(Bythis statement, I am not attempting for reductio ad absurdum of theteachings of the Seers). I consider the text books (or Rule books)bequeathed to us by ancient masters as mere "Guides" and notanything more than that.I am also convinced more than in Sanskrit ,a privilage of few scholars coming from the upper strata of thesociety , it is in Tamil, the language of common man, treasurehouse of Jyotish knowledge is kept (Time has> devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners ofparachment/palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure houseof knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part evenif it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting convertedat a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to showallegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their ownerstwhile culture and tradition

..> Now I rank the malignancy of a planet in the following manner.Priority wise> -----The 11 L & 11H occupants> -----The 8L & 8H occupants> ------The 12L & 12H occupants> -----The 6L & 6H occupants --Please do remember the 6H issimultaneously a upachayastana (Improving house) as well as a Dustana(Unfavourable House). 6th is also one of "Arthatrikona"(Trigon, 2-6-10) . That might be one of the reasons , the sub period of aplanet, well placed in 6H ,often leads to improvement in monetaryaffairs.>> Years back, I too was a great admirer of 11 H & 11Lord. Iknow ,it is the house of gains without pains, sincere companions,fulfilment of all desires, elder co-born etc.Bychance, I had anopportunity to read a write-up of a great Western astrologer byname RC Smith , in

which he was saying from his experience that 11Lor 11H occupants are evil.Since RC Smith study was based on WesternAstrology that depends on Tropical Zodiac, where there is no Dashasystem,I never got an opportunity to test his findings.In 1997,prior to his death, the outstanding Scholar in Jyotish, Sri RSanthanam, based on a thread of BPHS, wrote an article in TOA,captioned "Best and the Worst of 11House . Santhanam, in one of hisletter asked me to test this aphorism in as many cases as possiblethat passes through my hand.From then onwards , I am observing theinteresting role played by 11L and 11H occupants.In my studies Inote though the intensity of this aphorism vary according todifferent> Ascendant , in the case if Scorpio Ascendant , this finding,works like a Gospel Truth. Even if Mercury is well placed in anangle / trine, for Scorpio born , invariably it will bring untoldsufferings to the

native in its Dasha or sub period. I am yet tocome across a chart ,with Scorpio rising, the Dasha or Sub period ofMercury has gone without registering some unpleasant event in thelife of the native.> Both R C Smith and R Santhanam found 11L & 11H occupants givingdisease, debts, litigations, quarells etc, the reason is 11th is 6thcounted from 6H of disease, debts, sorrows, quarell . Don't forget11H is also the house of recovery from disease. .The point is,along with some tangible gains ,the 11L & 11H occupants, invariablybring sorrow, debts, litigation , quarell etc, the exact eventdepends on the individual nativity.> The rest in next instalment> Madhu N Nair>> VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote:> Vinitha,> For the 1 & 2 nd query I will answer in this mail whereas the 3rdone

requires a little bit description and for that I will post aseperate message.> (1)Ofcourse, the nature of the sign counts, but still moreimportance is the lordship of Mars for Taurus Ascending. Let usremember that MT sign of Mars falls in 12H of loss. Theelement"Loss"(In relations) is more precipitated , when Marsoccupies Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant.I am yet to form a finalopinion in this matter, but I have repeatedly seen in my studies ,Mars in Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant, leading to estrangement .> (2) Need not necessarily.What we see in actual experience is ,when one runs the sub period of Saturn (For Taurus Ascendant) onemay get promotion (10th Lordship)in job with transfer(9thlordship) .Parents death coinciding with job securing period. ( !0is 2nd from 9 & hence a maraka for father and 7 from 4th , hence amaraka for Mother) Sale & purchase of

vehicles/ properties etc ,simultaneously (9 for purchase , 10 for sale) , overseas journeyfor employment/training etc the list illustrative. Ofcourse it goeswithout saying Saturn need to be well placed from the Ascendant toreap beneficial results.>> Madhu N Nair>> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:> Dear Vyasaji and friends,>> Namaskar!>> Actually i have a whole lot of questions on Taurus Lagna but atthe> moment i will confine myself to just the following:>> 1. Do u think that just because of the basic nature of the Scorpio> sign in 7th relationships would suffer (even if Mars is not there)?>> 2. Do u think that because badhak Saturn rules the 9th and 10houses> there is a struggle involved there as well?>> 3. Do u think Jupiter is the most malefic planet for Taurus Lagna> being

lord of 2nd and 11th?>> 4. Do u think that Venus even though it is Lagnesh is not thatgreat> for the Lagna being ruler of 6th?>> 5. Do u think this Lagna has a special affinity to Mercury ruled> Lagnas....going by Vyasa relationships?>> I'll stop here.>> Will be extremely grateful for your responses.>> Regards,>> Vinita>> , VYASAJI> <vyasatvm@> wrote:> >> > Sreenadh & Friends,> > While match making (Compatibility) is done by Keralite> Astrologers, they use to outrightly reject the concept of Kuja or> Chowa Dosha, if Mars occupies 7th Rasi Scorpio, saying it isMar's> own sign , hence there is no blemish. However, in several chartsit> is repeatedly seen, Mars in 7th sign Scorpio leading to seperation> (Legal

or otherwise) at some stage of life.> > Madhu N Nair> >> > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:> > Dear All,> > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the things you know> about> > this Lagna? How would be that person?> > Love,> > Sreenadh> >> >> >> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Dear MAdhuji,

 

I read with interest your observations on 11L and 11H. Some people

call it the house of " nij dosha " . Being 6th from 6th probably its

maleficience gets magnified.

 

Jupiter being lord of 11th as well as 8th must be the most malefic

planet for Taurus Lagna and i want to know what are the mitigating

factors for this.

 

Should D-9 be considered for this since Jupiter is the natural lord

of the 9th? Or will i be going off at a tangent in doing this?

 

I shall be very grateful if u could help me with the analysis of the

following chart (actually mine)....so that i can reach a " fair "

understanding of the planets. Since i have covered a fairly large

ground in terms of life already spent spanning something like 5 MDs,

matching of real life experiences with planets would become an

important learning experience for me. In fact, the main reason why i

started to study astrology in the first place was to reach a better

understanding the self. But now i know there are other

more " effective " ways of doing that. Somewhere along the line

knowledge may become redundant, if not a hurdle to this pursuit.

Notwithstanding the above there is a certain romance about the

unfolding of the various layers of meanings in charts.

 

U had mentioned the importance of placement of planets. I am

particularly interested to know the significance of alignment of 6

planets along the 2-8 axis, the interpretation of a retro isolated

Saturn in 6th and the presence of 2 other retro planets. Are there

huge karmic debts demanding dissolution? According to one definition

all the planets appear to be cursed ( by the conventional

definitions)....but at times i feel so blessed!!!

 

I shall be so grateful for your assistance in this regard. U could

even write to me privately, if need be.

 

Warm regards,

 

Vinita

 

P.S. Birth particulars - 3rd July 1954; 2.45.15 a.m.; Lucknow.

 

, " vinita kumar "

<shankar_mamta wrote:

>

> Dear Madhuji,

>

> I want to express my heartfelt thanks for your responses which are

> very much rooted to the ground.

>

> U will not believe that i wrote several messges asking more

> questions and none would be accepted by the computer. There must

be

> a jinx. So i'll stop here.

>

> Best regards,

> Vinita

>

>

>

> >

> > Vinita,

> > For the sake of convenience, I may write FM, MMP etc. Actually

I

> don't consider any planet to be fully benefic or fully malefic.

> Yes .I consider and rate Jupiter as MMP for Taurus

Ascendant ,then

> my rationale is totally different from that of Mr VK Chaudary's

(SA

> Fame).Prior to that, let me tell you onething, my approach is

quite

> different from others. On my end, I rely on my experience as well

> as the experience of others, that I get as feed back rather than

> parroting sanskrit slokas after slokas to substantiate a point.

(By

> this statement, I am not attempting for reductio ad absurdum of

the

> teachings of the Seers). I consider the text books (or Rule books)

> bequeathed to us by ancient masters as mere " Guides " and not

> anything more than that.I am also convinced more than in

Sanskrit ,

> a privilage of few scholars coming from the upper strata of the

> society , it is in Tamil, the language of common man, treasure

> house of Jyotish knowledge is kept (Time has

> > devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners of

> parachment/palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure house

> of knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part even

> if it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting

converted

> at a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to show

> allegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their own

> erstwhile culture and tradition .

> > Now I rank the malignancy of a planet in the following

manner.

> Priority wise

> > -----The 11 L & 11H occupants

> > -----The 8L & 8H occupants

> > ------The 12L & 12H occupants

> > -----The 6L & 6H occupants --Please do remember the 6H is

> simultaneously a upachayastana (Improving house) as well as a

Dustana

> (Unfavourable House). 6th is also one of " Arthatrikona " (Trigon, 2-

6-

> 10) . That might be one of the reasons , the sub period of a

> planet, well placed in 6H ,often leads to improvement in

monetary

> affairs.

> >

> > Years back, I too was a great admirer of 11 H & 11Lord. I

> know ,it is the house of gains without pains, sincere companions,

> fulfilment of all desires, elder co-born etc.Bychance, I had an

> opportunity to read a write-up of a great Western astrologer by

> name RC Smith , in which he was saying from his experience that

11L

> or 11H occupants are evil.Since RC Smith study was based on

Western

> Astrology that depends on Tropical Zodiac, where there is no Dasha

> system,I never got an opportunity to test his findings.In 1997,

> prior to his death, the outstanding Scholar in Jyotish, Sri R

> Santhanam, based on a thread of BPHS, wrote an article in TOA,

> captioned " Best and the Worst of 11House . Santhanam, in one of

his

> letter asked me to test this aphorism in as many cases as possible

> that passes through my hand.From then onwards , I am observing the

> interesting role played by 11L and 11H occupants.In my studies I

> note though the intensity of this aphorism vary according to

> different

> > Ascendant , in the case if Scorpio Ascendant , this finding,

> works like a Gospel Truth. Even if Mercury is well placed in an

> angle / trine, for Scorpio born , invariably it will bring untold

> sufferings to the native in its Dasha or sub period. I am yet to

> come across a chart ,with Scorpio rising, the Dasha or Sub period

of

> Mercury has gone without registering some unpleasant event in the

> life of the native.

> > Both R C Smith and R Santhanam found 11L & 11H occupants

giving

> disease, debts, litigations, quarells etc, the reason is 11th is

6th

> counted from 6H of disease, debts, sorrows, quarell . Don't forget

> 11H is also the house of recovery from disease. .The point is,

> along with some tangible gains ,the 11L & 11H occupants,

invariably

> bring sorrow, debts, litigation , quarell etc, the exact event

> depends on the individual nativity.

> > The rest in next instalment

> > Madhu N Nair

> >

> > VYASAJI <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > Vinitha,

> > For the 1 & 2 nd query I will answer in this mail whereas the

3rd

> one requires a little bit description and for that I will post a

> seperate message.

> > (1)Ofcourse, the nature of the sign counts, but still more

> importance is the lordship of Mars for Taurus Ascending. Let us

> remember that MT sign of Mars falls in 12H of loss. The

> element " Loss " (In relations) is more precipitated , when Mars

> occupies Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant.I am yet to form a final

> opinion in this matter, but I have repeatedly seen in my studies ,

> Mars in Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant, leading to estrangement .

> > (2) Need not necessarily.What we see in actual experience is ,

> when one runs the sub period of Saturn (For Taurus Ascendant) one

> may get promotion (10th Lordship)in job with transfer(9th

> lordship) .Parents death coinciding with job securing period. ( !

0

> is 2nd from 9 & hence a maraka for father and 7 from 4th , hence a

> maraka for Mother) Sale & purchase of vehicles/ properties etc ,

> simultaneously (9 for purchase , 10 for sale) , overseas journey

> for employment/training etc the list illustrative. Ofcourse it

goes

> without saying Saturn need to be well placed from the Ascendant to

> reap beneficial results.

> >

> > Madhu N Nair

> >

> > vinita kumar <shankar_mamta@> wrote:

> > Dear Vyasaji and friends,

> >

> > Namaskar!

> >

> > Actually i have a whole lot of questions on Taurus Lagna but at

> the

> > moment i will confine myself to just the following:

> >

> > 1. Do u think that just because of the basic nature of the

Scorpio

> > sign in 7th relationships would suffer (even if Mars is not

there)?

> >

> > 2. Do u think that because badhak Saturn rules the 9th and 10

> houses

> > there is a struggle involved there as well?

> >

> > 3. Do u think Jupiter is the most malefic planet for Taurus

Lagna

> > being lord of 2nd and 11th?

> >

> > 4. Do u think that Venus even though it is Lagnesh is not that

> great

> > for the Lagna being ruler of 6th?

> >

> > 5. Do u think this Lagna has a special affinity to Mercury ruled

> > Lagnas....going by Vyasa relationships?

> >

> > I'll stop here.

> >

> > Will be extremely grateful for your responses.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Vinita

> >

> > , VYASAJI

> > <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sreenadh & Friends,

> > > While match making (Compatibility) is done by Keralite

> > Astrologers, they use to outrightly reject the concept of Kuja

or

> > Chowa Dosha, if Mars occupies 7th Rasi Scorpio, saying it is

> Mar's

> > own sign , hence there is no blemish. However, in several charts

> it

> > is repeatedly seen, Mars in 7th sign Scorpio leading to

seperation

> > (Legal or otherwise) at some stage of life.

> > > Madhu N Nair

> > >

> > > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the things you know

> > about

> > > this Lagna? How would be that person?

> > > Love,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >