Fwd: Rebirth - Hinduism

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Dear All,

I found the follwoing message in group. I am none

to say anything about it, but feels that I disagree to it to a

certain extend. But it is good reading material, and there would be

many who agree with surya ji's statements. So I am presenting it here.

P.S:

1) Spirituality is something to know, not to argue.

2) Atma is something to trust (when you feel / know / experience it,

not to believe.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " surya " <dattapr2000

wrote:

 

Only one Lord created this entire universe. He should have told the

same knowledge everywhere in the world. The contradiction is only

due to misunderstanding. In Hinduism also Sankara says that again

human birth is almost impossible (Jantunaam Nara Janma

Durlabhamidam). Sankara was the incarnation of Siva and so what He

told is also authoritative. Even Gita says that the soul comes back

to this world but does not say that the soul gets again the human

birth (Ksheene Punye Martyalokam Visanti). In the second chapter,

Gita speaks about rebirth but not about the human rebirth. Islam and

Christianity say that the human birth is given only as a single

chance. After this the final judgement is given. The soul either

goes to the Lord or goes to the hell permanently. In Gita also there

are two ways for the soul. Either the soul goes to the Lord and does

not return back or the soul returns back to the world (Abrahma

Bhuvanath, Yat Gatva). According to Gita, if the soul does not go to

the Lord (Brahmaloka), it returns back after enjoying the fruits of

incomplete spiritual effort. Therefore in this human birth, if the

spiritual effort is completed, the soul goes to the Brahmaloka

permanently.

 

If the spiritual effort is incomplete the soul may go up to any

world below Brahmaloka, it will return back to this earth after

enjoying the fruits of its incomplete spiritual effort. The soul may

go up to the sixth world, it cannot go to the Brahmaloka, which is

the seventh world by doing the remaining spiritual effort in the

sixth world. The reason is once the soul leaves this earth all the

upper worlds are only Bhogalokas i.e., the worlds in which the soul

can enjoy the fruits, but cannot do any work (Karma). Therefore the

soul has to return back to the earth. The soul will not get again

another chance of human birth because once it is failed it can never

succeed. Therefore the soul comes to the earth and falls into the

cycle of animals and birds only. When the soul is trapped in this

cycle of animal births, it is treated as a permanent hell.

 

If the soul goes to Brahmaloka it always accompanies the Lord either

in Brahmaloka or may come back to the earth along with the Lord who

takes the human incarnation. In such case the soul is born as a

divine servant of the Lord. Such soul will not take rebirth in the

cycle of animals. Thus for the divine soul also there is no such

rebirth. In this way Hinduism, Islam and Christianity are correlated

as one concept preached by the one Lord. Christians and Muslims are

putting up sincere spiritual effort because there is a threat that

this human life is the only chance. There is no reexamination

according to these religions. This human birth is the only one

examination and the soul either passes or fails and will not be

allowed for any reexamination. But in Hinduism such threat is not

there.

 

People have taken a lenient view on the spiritual life because they

think that the human rebirths are possible and so they can put up

the spiritual effort slowly in the future human births. The Lord

cannot say different theories to different people. The rule must be

same for all the human beings of the world. Therefore whatever the

Lord told in Christianity and Islam also told the same in Hinduism.

Hindus misunderstood the concept. Therefore what ever may be the

religion, every human being should think " Now or Never " .

 

The human rebirth is only for Yoga Bhrashta i.e., the soul, which

has reached Brahmaloka and fell due to some slip. Such a soul is

suspended from Brahmaloka and comes down to the earth and takes

rebirth as a human being only. You have passed the P.G. Degree and

obtained the post of the lecturer. But you were suspended for a

month due to some mistake. You will be re-appointed.

 

Similarly the Yoga Bhrashta will be born as a human being for some

time and will come back to Brahmaloka. The case of incomplete

spiritual effort is different from Yoga Bhrashta. The incomplete

spiritual person is like a B.A. Degree holder who never achieved the

lecturer post. You cannot argue that you can be appointed as a

seventy five percent lecturer since you reached seventy five percent

of the total educational period (from school to P.G.Degree is

hundred percent) by getting a B.A. Degree.

 

Thus there is no partial achievement by partial spiritual effort.

The grace of the Lord is either hundred percent or zero. If it is

hundred percent you are reaching Brahmaloka. If it is Zero percent

you are falling back to the earth in the cycle of animals and birds.

There is no third way in between these two. When this truth is

revealed, only one in thousands will try to put the real spiritual

effort as said in Gita (Manushyaanaam Sahasreshu). By this Hindus

will become alert in spiritual effort like Christians and Muslims.

 

posted by: His servant

at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

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