astro A Real Life Experience ! To Madhuji

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Respected Madhu Ji

 

It is great to see your messages and I must thank the forum for giving me

the opportunity.

 

I need your kind help.

 

With regards to 8L and 8 occupants,

does it happen for planets irrespective of its Degree in 8H?

will 12.5 to 15 Deg or 17.5 - 20 Deg better than 27.5 to 30 Deg?

if 6L in 8H, 12L in 8H?

does it happen for all the occupants in 8H? will all be MMP?

 

Ex. Gemini Asc

8H have flg 5 planets:

Su 12L

Me 10L 1L

Ma 3L

Mo 11L

Ve 2L, 9L

 

regards

JYO

 

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" vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta

 

Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:09 AM

Re: Real Life Experience ! To Madhuji

 

 

Dear Madhuji,

 

I want to express my heartfelt thanks for your responses which are

very much rooted to the ground.

 

U will not believe that i wrote several messges asking more

questions and none would be accepted by the computer. There must be

a jinx. So i'll stop here.

 

Best regards,

Vinita

 

 

 

>

> Vinita,

> For the sake of convenience, I may write FM, MMP etc. Actually I

don't consider any planet to be fully benefic or fully malefic.

Yes .I consider and rate Jupiter as MMP for Taurus Ascendant ,then

my rationale is totally different from that of Mr VK Chaudary's (SA

Fame).Prior to that, let me tell you onething, my approach is quite

different from others. On my end, I rely on my experience as well

as the experience of others, that I get as feed back rather than

parroting sanskrit slokas after slokas to substantiate a point. (By

this statement, I am not attempting for reductio ad absurdum of the

teachings of the Seers). I consider the text books (or Rule books)

bequeathed to us by ancient masters as mere " Guides " and not

anything more than that.I am also convinced more than in Sanskrit ,

a privilage of few scholars coming from the upper strata of the

society , it is in Tamil, the language of common man, treasure

house of Jyotish knowledge is kept (Time has

> devoured almost all works in Tamil , with the owners of

parachment/palmyra writings, blissfully ignorant of treasure house

of knowledge in their possession , which they refuses to part even

if it is moth-eaten , with a sizeable population getting converted

at a fast pace ; and for whom it has become mandatory to show

allegiance/, loyalty to new faith , by denouncing , their own

erstwhile culture and tradition .

> Now I rank the malignancy of a planet in the following manner.

Priority wise

> -----The 11 L & 11H occupants

> -----The 8L & 8H occupants

> ------The 12L & 12H occupants

> -----The 6L & 6H occupants --Please do remember the 6H is

simultaneously a upachayastana (Improving house) as well as a Dustana

(Unfavourable House). 6th is also one of " Arthatrikona " (Trigon, 2-6-

10) . That might be one of the reasons , the sub period of a

planet, well placed in 6H ,often leads to improvement in monetary

affairs.

>

> Years back, I too was a great admirer of 11 H & 11Lord. I

know ,it is the house of gains without pains, sincere companions,

fulfilment of all desires, elder co-born etc.Bychance, I had an

opportunity to read a write-up of a great Western astrologer by

name RC Smith , in which he was saying from his experience that 11L

or 11H occupants are evil.Since RC Smith study was based on Western

Astrology that depends on Tropical Zodiac, where there is no Dasha

system,I never got an opportunity to test his findings.In 1997,

prior to his death, the outstanding Scholar in Jyotish, Sri R

Santhanam, based on a thread of BPHS, wrote an article in TOA,

captioned " Best and the Worst of 11House . Santhanam, in one of his

letter asked me to test this aphorism in as many cases as possible

that passes through my hand.From then onwards , I am observing the

interesting role played by 11L and 11H occupants.In my studies I

note though the intensity of this aphorism vary according to

different

> Ascendant , in the case if Scorpio Ascendant , this finding,

works like a Gospel Truth. Even if Mercury is well placed in an

angle / trine, for Scorpio born , invariably it will bring untold

sufferings to the native in its Dasha or sub period. I am yet to

come across a chart ,with Scorpio rising, the Dasha or Sub period of

Mercury has gone without registering some unpleasant event in the

life of the native.

> Both R C Smith and R Santhanam found 11L & 11H occupants giving

disease, debts, litigations, quarells etc, the reason is 11th is 6th

counted from 6H of disease, debts, sorrows, quarell . Don't forget

11H is also the house of recovery from disease. .The point is,

along with some tangible gains ,the 11L & 11H occupants, invariably

bring sorrow, debts, litigation , quarell etc, the exact event

depends on the individual nativity.

> The rest in next instalment

> Madhu N Nair

>

> VYASAJI <vyasatvm wrote:

> Vinitha,

> For the 1 & 2 nd query I will answer in this mail whereas the 3rd

one requires a little bit description and for that I will post a

seperate message.

> (1)Ofcourse, the nature of the sign counts, but still more

importance is the lordship of Mars for Taurus Ascending. Let us

remember that MT sign of Mars falls in 12H of loss. The

element " Loss " (In relations) is more precipitated , when Mars

occupies Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant.I am yet to form a final

opinion in this matter, but I have repeatedly seen in my studies ,

Mars in Scorpio for Taurus Ascendant, leading to estrangement .

> (2) Need not necessarily.What we see in actual experience is ,

when one runs the sub period of Saturn (For Taurus Ascendant) one

may get promotion (10th Lordship)in job with transfer(9th

lordship) .Parents death coinciding with job securing period. ( !0

is 2nd from 9 & hence a maraka for father and 7 from 4th , hence a

maraka for Mother) Sale & purchase of vehicles/ properties etc ,

simultaneously (9 for purchase , 10 for sale) , overseas journey

for employment/training etc the list illustrative. Ofcourse it goes

without saying Saturn need to be well placed from the Ascendant to

reap beneficial results.

>

> Madhu N Nair

>

> vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote:

> Dear Vyasaji and friends,

>

> Namaskar!

>

> Actually i have a whole lot of questions on Taurus Lagna but at

the

> moment i will confine myself to just the following:

>

> 1. Do u think that just because of the basic nature of the Scorpio

> sign in 7th relationships would suffer (even if Mars is not there)?

>

> 2. Do u think that because badhak Saturn rules the 9th and 10

houses

> there is a struggle involved there as well?

>

> 3. Do u think Jupiter is the most malefic planet for Taurus Lagna

> being lord of 2nd and 11th?

>

> 4. Do u think that Venus even though it is Lagnesh is not that

great

> for the Lagna being ruler of 6th?

>

> 5. Do u think this Lagna has a special affinity to Mercury ruled

> Lagnas....going by Vyasa relationships?

>

> I'll stop here.

>

> Will be extremely grateful for your responses.

>

> Regards,

>

> Vinita

>

> , VYASAJI

> <vyasatvm@> wrote:

> >

> > Sreenadh & Friends,

> > While match making (Compatibility) is done by Keralite

> Astrologers, they use to outrightly reject the concept of Kuja or

> Chowa Dosha, if Mars occupies 7th Rasi Scorpio, saying it is

Mar's

> own sign , hence there is no blemish. However, in several charts

it

> is repeatedly seen, Mars in 7th sign Scorpio leading to seperation

> (Legal or otherwise) at some stage of life.

> > Madhu N Nair

> >

> > Sreenadh <sreesog@> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > Shall we think about Tarus Lagna? What are the things you know

> about

> > this Lagna? How would be that person?

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

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